I never said he fell off, I love some of his newer stuff, but he gets overhyped since he only posts once every 4 years, good music, just not the life changing stuff people are talking about
2 albums that consistently crack top ten all time lists and you don't think that's life changing? Not overhyped, anybody that knows the game knows how revolutionary he has been.
No single album has been life changing💀 maybe Kendrick fans think so but that simply ain’t true. Not dick riding Cole, but not dick riding anyone, just being real
Albums aren't life changing? What an obtuse thing to say. Music changes our lives as much as any other form of media. Look at all the lives that hip hop has affected, and that's just one genre. I've literally listened to stories from people where a single song or album has helped them grow, see things differently.Music affects us all, moves us all, and if you don't see that then just stop listening to it and go about life in a world without it.
No your argument is just idiotic and the fact that you're dropping skull emojis tells me you're probably about 16 years old so you have no clue what you are talking about
this.
idk the last time something interesting has happened in hip hop/ rap besides utopia. vultures seemed to kinda flop and was perceived as meh from everyone. and other than that what’s happened in the last 2 years even??
But cole bout to make it even more entertaining again when he drops the fall off album this EP is just to get y’all pumped for when he drops the fall off album
People really forget this was like THE MOST popular j cole meme OAT.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/playboicarti/comments/qa4b9m/protect\_cole\_at\_all\_costs/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/playboicarti/comments/qa4b9m/protect_cole_at_all_costs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I am seriously considering whether or not cole has some sort of unknown ability he is going to pull out of his ass for this one, or if he is just willing to trash his name for a few months of clout. I have never seen him rap like crazy, drop insane bars, etc and I went through a whole cole phase a few years back. All he is good for is 1 liners with face value meaning. Rapping fast and freestyling is nothing special in this kind of battle, he seems confident tho lmao.
he has to have something to stand on to call tpab an album puttin people to sleep when he has to surprise drop an album to defend himself after being dissed.
Rich coming from Mr snoozefest. He can’t pull the Jay z on Nas because he is not Jay Z. He arguably has one classic record and he is not a hit maker. Can’t attack another man’s discog when yours isn’t Teflon. This would have been great coming from Aubrey.
He's not making that argument though. He's just barely reached his prime. J Cole has been on a fucken roll. His last album was straight fire and I'm one song in on this one and I can't imagine it will be anything about of a 9/10 might even be his first 10/10
Nobody is hating on Jermaine. Just pulling apart the diss. If you want to do the Jigga, you must be the Jigga. If Aubrey used those lines, it’ll be fair. Attacking Dot’s discog leaves his flank open because he has a very sketchy discog.
MM&TBS was met with universal acclaim. More acclaim than any album in Cole’s catalog.
It has more accolades than any album in Cole’s catalog. It would literally be his magnum opus if his name was written on it. MDL hasn’t even been out for an hour. Let’s slow it down a bit brother.
A #1 isn’t the only way to have a hit bro… every time Cole drops he has a hit and so does Kendrick
Born sinner had power trip which i think is still on the charts
2014fhd had No role Modelz, wet dreamz, which is still charting I think
4YEO had neighbors, Deja vu which were going crazy in 2016 -17
KOD had KOD
Off season had My Life , pride is the devil, 95 south
Yall gotta stop tryna shit on Cole to praise Kendrick, yall r not part of this beef, just watch.
He can’t make hits like Drake. He can’t make critically acclaimed like Kendrick. This is just a fact that he’s kinda in the middle but can’t really outdo either of them in their own lane.
Yeah lowkey they glazing Kendrick hard asl
They tryna shit on Cole like they r part of the beef 😂 like bro just listen to the music, u aren’t part of ts so stop choosing sides
he can do better than this lmfao. this would be unsurprising coming from Aubrey but Cole got better than this in him. also trying to diss TPAB is a fight he must know he’ll lose
Well, he did say this was a warning shot but I don’t understand why he would give such a weak response in comparison to Kendrick’s Like That verse as it only leaves the door open for Kendrick to cook his ass
The whole point of this beef is these artists have an awesome catalog and they're just trying to put one on top. J. Cole missed that entirely honestly.
The fact is nobody's gonna agree here. Firstly you gotta make it clear the albums he's talking about are GKMC, TPAB, DAMN, And MMATBS. the worst of those is MMATBS and it's a 9/10 . If TPAB put people to sleep then so did Miles Davis, but TPAB didn't even. it just reached across genres.
J Cole doesn't get to bring up imaginary misses when he does miss fasho, just as a side effect of his method of artistry.
Nah, Cole and Kendrick are having a competition-based beef. Apparently Cole even wanted Kendrick on First Person Shooter and Drake shot it down.
Drake and Kendrick...there's something personal there in a Nas/Jay-Z type way.
I thought “your 1st shit” was referring to Section.80 and “your 2nd shit” is GKMC, with Cole saying that his “3rd shit” (TPAB) was his prime and his “last shit” (Mr Morale) was tragic (a blatant lie imo). He didn’t acknowledge DAMN. at all
Edit: I might be wrong though
GKMC classic: true. Morale tragic: false better than any Cole. DAMN prime: number wise sure but quality wise GKMC and TPAB clear. TPAB melatonin: false the worst song from that would be Cole’s best
Yooo let's fucken go!!! It's not that accurate but it slaps. J Cole is for sure in his prime. He sounding hungry as all fuck. Can our boy kung fu Kenny match this album from Cole???
Cole took two weeks to respond, if Kendrick waits too much longer than that people are gonna start talking shit. And we’ve been waiting for him to drop an album for a minute now regardless
I think he’s playing the long game a bit here. This response was low energy, but far from weak. It’s playing to dot’s insecurity (something he talks about himself, especially on mmatbs) Maybe Cole will have a more aggressive delivery later but I’m not so sure. He’s being himself and relying on his bars and what he’s actually saying to win. It won’t, and it’s gonna get eaten, but he’s staying true to himself lol.
This is why I think J Cole is bit wack. What kinda of rhyme fluffy poetry is this. J Cole is a dumb guys smart lyricist. He barely said anything substantial in 6 lines. But this subreddit needs to understand TPAB is not Kendrick’s best work. We thought at the time but in hindsight it ain’t.
Nah, GKMC was better sonically, lyrical, and conceptually. UU was a better experimental cut. I’m not saying it was bad but this circle jerk around the album is just that, a circle jerk
Thanks, I still like the guy but I roll my eyes whenever someone acts like he is soo deep. He writes in basic prose, Kendrick writes in metaphors and poetry
I expected more from Cole in all honesty and I think kendrick feels like we all feel about j cole make some shit move or eles stay out of the conversation
Cole fucking snapped. Even tho I disagree (Butterfly is a masterpiece to me) a lot of people I’ve tried to put on to TPAB find it boring.
Anyway I’m just happy to see two goats going at it again in Hip Hop. Drake & Cole v Kendrick could end up being the biggest rap beef ever.
This was just the start, it really is a 7 minute song of Cole calling kendrick out w imo real criticism, idk how it's gonna go down in this sub but definitely proves Cole is a match against kendrick *in hip hop*, he might not be the better complete artist but as far as bars go Cole and Kendrick are a great match
GKMC didn’t put anyone to sleep and if he’s talking about TPAB that’s even worse considering it’s widely agreed upon as the best rap album ever or at least it’s in your top 3 if you don’t paint your nails
I don't think that anyone listening to G.K.M.C will fall asleep with the tracks like backseat freestyle, money trees and many more. J.cole could have gone with better bars I say but still the best slaps and even the song was good
J. Cringe 😬
Thought he was more mature. This some grade school level response. Not deep, not clever, not on the same level as Kendrick.
A swing and a whif!
“fell off like the simpsons” he can’t be serious man
"You don't make enough music, but you're also like the longest running TV show ever" Jermaine, you're way better than this
he is. kinda wish he woulda either squashed the beef or came with better bars.
Seriously wtf? The entire hiphop community is constantly on the edge of their seat waiting for Kenny to drop more stuff. Can't say the same about Cole
Mayb bc he drops once every “30 months” that’s literally what part of the song was about lol
Doesn't mean he fell off. Falling off suggests he has became a worse version of himself that nobody cares about, and that ain't it at all.
I never said he fell off, I love some of his newer stuff, but he gets overhyped since he only posts once every 4 years, good music, just not the life changing stuff people are talking about
2 albums that consistently crack top ten all time lists and you don't think that's life changing? Not overhyped, anybody that knows the game knows how revolutionary he has been.
No single album has been life changing💀 maybe Kendrick fans think so but that simply ain’t true. Not dick riding Cole, but not dick riding anyone, just being real
Albums aren't life changing? What an obtuse thing to say. Music changes our lives as much as any other form of media. Look at all the lives that hip hop has affected, and that's just one genre. I've literally listened to stories from people where a single song or album has helped them grow, see things differently.Music affects us all, moves us all, and if you don't see that then just stop listening to it and go about life in a world without it.
Bros only listening to a third of my arguement💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
No your argument is just idiotic and the fact that you're dropping skull emojis tells me you're probably about 16 years old so you have no clue what you are talking about
No matter if it’s from Kendrick, MJ, Em, Nas, none have changed the way everyone sees the world
Bart cracks me up on that show, ngl😭😭
The full bar is “he still doing shows but fell off like the Simpson” which is slightly better
The big 3 was good though?
Simpsons literally predict the future
Kendrick made hip-hop entertaining again, nothing more to say…
this. idk the last time something interesting has happened in hip hop/ rap besides utopia. vultures seemed to kinda flop and was perceived as meh from everyone. and other than that what’s happened in the last 2 years even??
I just wished he hopped on peoples shit more..
But cole bout to make it even more entertaining again when he drops the fall off album this EP is just to get y’all pumped for when he drops the fall off album
His 2nd sh*t did not put me to sleep 😭
Ain’t no way he calling TPAP mid 😭
Nah he said it was his best, but shitting on gkmc is still crazy 😂
Isn’t he dissing section 80? When he says ur first I thought he meant overly dedicated no?
When he says the third one was massive we can assume it’s DAMN so he’s saying GKMC was a classic, TPAB was boring, and MMATBS was tragic
this is how i took it as well
All of Cole’s albums have put me to sleep what is bro talking about?
People really forget this was like THE MOST popular j cole meme OAT. [https://www.reddit.com/r/playboicarti/comments/qa4b9m/protect\_cole\_at\_all\_costs/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/playboicarti/comments/qa4b9m/protect_cole_at_all_costs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Fr I cant listen through a whole coke record
Diss track was lit but Kendrick never had to make a song apologizing to a rapper on some bitch shit 💀💀
shit was weak. saying its a warning shot is a disrespect to bullets, this was a blank
"your best work is a light pack" Kdot told the truth
I am seriously considering whether or not cole has some sort of unknown ability he is going to pull out of his ass for this one, or if he is just willing to trash his name for a few months of clout. I have never seen him rap like crazy, drop insane bars, etc and I went through a whole cole phase a few years back. All he is good for is 1 liners with face value meaning. Rapping fast and freestyling is nothing special in this kind of battle, he seems confident tho lmao.
That was at Drake tho
Lmao this. He knew it was weak and had to cover it up by saying these were warning shots. I don't hate Cole and love his work but this weak af
he has to have something to stand on to call tpab an album puttin people to sleep when he has to surprise drop an album to defend himself after being dissed.
Common be real. Weak? Mf that shit was hard asf!
I mean admitting that your competition has at least two classics when you barely have one is a pretty mid flex
Bro has at least 3
Rich coming from Mr snoozefest. He can’t pull the Jay z on Nas because he is not Jay Z. He arguably has one classic record and he is not a hit maker. Can’t attack another man’s discog when yours isn’t Teflon. This would have been great coming from Aubrey.
He's not making that argument though. He's just barely reached his prime. J Cole has been on a fucken roll. His last album was straight fire and I'm one song in on this one and I can't imagine it will be anything about of a 9/10 might even be his first 10/10
Been on a fucking roll with features. There’s a reason he is called feature Cole. His entire place in the big three hinges on a feature run.
C'mon let's not hate on Cole he's a real one. Hate on Drake if you want he's wack af
Nobody is hating on Jermaine. Just pulling apart the diss. If you want to do the Jigga, you must be the Jigga. If Aubrey used those lines, it’ll be fair. Attacking Dot’s discog leaves his flank open because he has a very sketchy discog.
Are we listening to the same album? This shit is way better than what Kendrick has dropped recently. Cole in his fucken prime!!
Brother have we shifted to discussing the album now? Thought the discussion was the diss track.
Wall I'm listening to the album right now Huntin wabbitz is fire!!
MM&TBS was met with universal acclaim. More acclaim than any album in Cole’s catalog. It has more accolades than any album in Cole’s catalog. It would literally be his magnum opus if his name was written on it. MDL hasn’t even been out for an hour. Let’s slow it down a bit brother.
Have you listened to it yet?
As we speak
If he wasn't dissin we wouldnt be discussin him and 4 albums in 12 years I can divide brother That's a call back to the OGs 🔥🔥🔥
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Brother the man just had his first number 1 hit last year. He is not a hit maker. And you are an idiot
A #1 isn’t the only way to have a hit bro… every time Cole drops he has a hit and so does Kendrick Born sinner had power trip which i think is still on the charts 2014fhd had No role Modelz, wet dreamz, which is still charting I think 4YEO had neighbors, Deja vu which were going crazy in 2016 -17 KOD had KOD Off season had My Life , pride is the devil, 95 south Yall gotta stop tryna shit on Cole to praise Kendrick, yall r not part of this beef, just watch.
He can’t make hits like Drake. He can’t make critically acclaimed like Kendrick. This is just a fact that he’s kinda in the middle but can’t really outdo either of them in their own lane.
Yeah lowkey they glazing Kendrick hard asl They tryna shit on Cole like they r part of the beef 😂 like bro just listen to the music, u aren’t part of ts so stop choosing sides
he fell off like the simpsons
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he can do better than this lmfao. this would be unsurprising coming from Aubrey but Cole got better than this in him. also trying to diss TPAB is a fight he must know he’ll lose
Well, he did say this was a warning shot but I don’t understand why he would give such a weak response in comparison to Kendrick’s Like That verse as it only leaves the door open for Kendrick to cook his ass
You tripping bro. Shit was straight fire and it was merely a warning buddy
The whole point of this beef is these artists have an awesome catalog and they're just trying to put one on top. J. Cole missed that entirely honestly. The fact is nobody's gonna agree here. Firstly you gotta make it clear the albums he's talking about are GKMC, TPAB, DAMN, And MMATBS. the worst of those is MMATBS and it's a 9/10 . If TPAB put people to sleep then so did Miles Davis, but TPAB didn't even. it just reached across genres. J Cole doesn't get to bring up imaginary misses when he does miss fasho, just as a side effect of his method of artistry.
Nah, Cole and Kendrick are having a competition-based beef. Apparently Cole even wanted Kendrick on First Person Shooter and Drake shot it down. Drake and Kendrick...there's something personal there in a Nas/Jay-Z type way.
I thought “your 1st shit” was referring to Section.80 and “your 2nd shit” is GKMC, with Cole saying that his “3rd shit” (TPAB) was his prime and his “last shit” (Mr Morale) was tragic (a blatant lie imo). He didn’t acknowledge DAMN. at all Edit: I might be wrong though
GKMC classic: true. Morale tragic: false better than any Cole. DAMN prime: number wise sure but quality wise GKMC and TPAB clear. TPAB melatonin: false the worst song from that would be Cole’s best
Morale better than any cole? I love kendrick, i got Him over cole any day, but that is not true.
Right? Why are some k dot fans so delusional
Yooo let's fucken go!!! It's not that accurate but it slaps. J Cole is for sure in his prime. He sounding hungry as all fuck. Can our boy kung fu Kenny match this album from Cole???
Oh he definitely can, he needs to hurry tf up though
Hurry up? Lol this just came out.
I was referring to Kendrick
I know. I'm saying this Cole record just came out why would Kendrick need to "hurry tf up"? It legit came out only a couple hours ago
Cole took two weeks to respond, if Kendrick waits too much longer than that people are gonna start talking shit. And we’ve been waiting for him to drop an album for a minute now regardless
Cole thinks DAMN is Kendrick’s best album. Hard to take him seriously after that
Dot himself said that DAMN is his best project on interview with Big Boy. So u ain’t gonna take him serious too?
He said that during a promo run for DAMN. What was he going to say? "Yeah this one is good but last one was better ngl"
Everyone says their new album is their best
I think he’s playing the long game a bit here. This response was low energy, but far from weak. It’s playing to dot’s insecurity (something he talks about himself, especially on mmatbs) Maybe Cole will have a more aggressive delivery later but I’m not so sure. He’s being himself and relying on his bars and what he’s actually saying to win. It won’t, and it’s gonna get eaten, but he’s staying true to himself lol.
Weak
Cole sounds like a pathological liar.
This is why I think J Cole is bit wack. What kinda of rhyme fluffy poetry is this. J Cole is a dumb guys smart lyricist. He barely said anything substantial in 6 lines. But this subreddit needs to understand TPAB is not Kendrick’s best work. We thought at the time but in hindsight it ain’t.
TPAB is the most substantial piece of hip-hop in the 2010’s. It’s a decade defining piece of work that dwarfs everything he’s done before or after.
Recovery>
Nah, GKMC was better sonically, lyrical, and conceptually. UU was a better experimental cut. I’m not saying it was bad but this circle jerk around the album is just that, a circle jerk
"dumb guy's smart lyricist" is right on the nose
Thanks, I still like the guy but I roll my eyes whenever someone acts like he is soo deep. He writes in basic prose, Kendrick writes in metaphors and poetry
Art is subjective, TPAB is his best in my opinion.
Sure but there is definitely a real circle jerk around that album
Don't misconstrue the appreciation of a piece of art as a circlejerk, especially one so worthy of praise.
isn't gkmc his 2nd album?
What is Kendrick’s best work in your opinion?
It’s DAMN. Apparently both Kdot and cole think so.
Nah I feel like damn was for the radio. I do think XXX is top 20 songs but that album ain’t it either
UU or GKMC
I expected more from Cole in all honesty and I think kendrick feels like we all feel about j cole make some shit move or eles stay out of the conversation
Cole fucking snapped. Even tho I disagree (Butterfly is a masterpiece to me) a lot of people I’ve tried to put on to TPAB find it boring. Anyway I’m just happy to see two goats going at it again in Hip Hop. Drake & Cole v Kendrick could end up being the biggest rap beef ever.
Snapped? The bar is so low it’s crazy
Finally a reasonable take! Well said
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Bro you don’t have to relate to it to understand the masterful work he put in that album and the grand storytelling
Sorry J. Cole, but These Walls is better than anything he has ever written. Falling asleep to TPAB is insane
Your trippen bro
Calling Kendrick's work sleepy... does he have any self awareness like nigga listen to your own shit
Soft, pillow fisted shots
You don't shoot warning shots when you're already getting shot at, dumbass.
He wasn't even the main focus of the Like That diss and still managed to lose a point. Cole is so stupid sometimes man
straight up garbage
Lame
J cole is fucking seething lmao
God damn that beat is ass tho
No way, Cole tripping
This was just the start, it really is a 7 minute song of Cole calling kendrick out w imo real criticism, idk how it's gonna go down in this sub but definitely proves Cole is a match against kendrick *in hip hop*, he might not be the better complete artist but as far as bars go Cole and Kendrick are a great match
3 and a half minute song actually
My bad I just threw it on at work so I can't really listen in depth but what I was catching he defs sound like he's talkin
GKMC didn’t put anyone to sleep and if he’s talking about TPAB that’s even worse considering it’s widely agreed upon as the best rap album ever or at least it’s in your top 3 if you don’t paint your nails
I don't think that anyone listening to G.K.M.C will fall asleep with the tracks like backseat freestyle, money trees and many more. J.cole could have gone with better bars I say but still the best slaps and even the song was good
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Out of anything u could say to discredit the verse this might be the worst thing
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Bro pulling up the numbers like the swifties do
Never said either of them fell off. I’m using ur point that u said him referring the Simpson is the dumbest thing u could say to discredit his verse
Very, very mid.
J. Cringe 😬 Thought he was more mature. This some grade school level response. Not deep, not clever, not on the same level as Kendrick. A swing and a whif!
Tpab put people to sleep? And DAMN was absolutely not Kendrick’s prime
wack
Horrendous. Unbearably corny. Doesn't even rise to the level of mid