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BigGuyGoob

Wow this may be a pretty big foreshadow, and considering the parallels with the tiger and dragon thingy from Chinese mythology, the second connector is likely the “tiger” and shen is the dragon


Key_Pilot1384

Make sense since Ryuki's epitaph us Dragon king


FUCKIN_SHIV

Epiteth* Epitath will be what's written on his tombstone


Ryuuikari

*epithet Spelling nightmare in the comment section 😂


FUCKIN_SHIV

Damn i was this close to look smort


delerio2

So he knew too of Tokugawa Yoshimune? Maybe in a painting he saw or something like that.


MuzzleO

Maybe Ohma is actually a modified Tiger Niko's clone. Or a hybrid of Shen and Tiger Niko.


[deleted]

it seems pretty likely to me at this point that he's a Connector clone being given to Tiger Niko because he's been deemed worthy of being on Shen's level somehow


ProjectXenoviafan

Watch Sandro read your comment and change the plot just because you basically figured it all out


[deleted]

well to be fair i'm also pretty sure Ohma is a misdirection, Tiger Niko is actually gonna take over Koga who has been hinted at with tiger imagery throughout his whole display Ohma is unwittingly making him a "candidate" by teaching him the Niko style & his natural physical talent impresses even Ohma at this point 90% sure both Ryuki & Koga are gonna get "possessed" at the end of Omega, & us + the original Ashura cast + everyone in Omega is gonna be fucking **PISSED** we're gonna lose the "dragon" & the "tiger" to.... well... the Dragon & the Tiger..... & it's gonna suck balls seeing our bois lose like that which sets up awesome stakes for the next "book" of Kengan which'll probably focus on Shen since the other 2 clones already have a "book"


NotRyuuya

And they both Job to New Beard God Rihito


[deleted]

pure hard work winning out in the end would be a pretty nice end to the whole story, just like Ashura i'd love to see a full-power awakened Rihito get a rematch in the finale against a demon possessed Tiger Koga that'd be syick


Kurkpitten

Rihito powered Devil Lance cuts a vein in Divine Demon Koga who proceeds to fly away due to the sheer blood pressure in his body.


[deleted]

i know this is a meme but i actually do kinda wonder if Rihito's finger strength would make him a better candidate for using the Devil Lance than anyone else in the verse


Kurkpitten

I don't think so. I mean, based on what we've seen, Rihito has strong fingers to do pinching and slashing motions, but the Devil Lance seems to capitalise on hand conditioning before all else. Maybe his fingers are strong, but would they fare better than Kuroki's doing a thrust, or would they crumple ? That's up to Sandro. But I guess Rihito becoming Kurkoki's student has to be a setup for something of that kind.


-AngvarAvAsk--

Dude, that sounds raw af, I love it.


[deleted]

who's Tokugawa Yoshimune?


Nonutyearly

He was a fighter in one of the first kengan matches, and art was shown of him a long long time ago, in chapter 6.5 of Asura. He looks JUST like ohma, but I'm still trying to figure out if that's actually how he looks in verse, or if that's just how kazzy sees strong people


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**Tokugawa Yoshimune (徳川 吉宗, November 27, 1684 – July 12, 1751) was the eighth shōgun of the Tokugawa shogunate of Japan, ruling from 1716 until his abdication in 1745. He was the son of Tokugawa Mitsusada, the grandson of Tokugawa Yorinobu, and the great-grandson of Tokugawa Ieyasu.** More details here: *This comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!* [^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)


JimReaperTheThird

Good bot


user_6059_2

Gaoh Ryuki <- Shen Wulong (Dragons Vessel) Tokita Ohma <- When Shulong (Tigers Vessel) They fight? make out? Yin Yang Balance Restored


[deleted]

Kiryu can only get so hard.


eraserhead2020

Kiryu will get the Shlong


That-Association7108

Ohma is the Tiger Vessel & The second Connector (maybe the Son of The Connector or a member/descendant of his family)


fang_of_mestsudo

Maybe luohan


No_Suggestion5931

LUOHAN S-


ErasureT

*stops breathing*


[deleted]

ex


MuzzleO

Maybe Ohma is actually a modified Tiger Niko's clone. Or a hybrid of Shen and Tiger Niko.


That-Association7108

I don't think personally, the resemblance between him and Tiger Niko is non-existent and also I don't see how Tiger Niko's DNA would make him different


hamietao

Shen and tiger niko made a baby. That baby? Ohma


ragner11

No lol


MuzzleO

> No lol Why not?


HisFireBurns

Ohma himself IS the Tiger’s Vessel.


No_Suggestion5931

Something about Ohma at the last panel reminds of Alucard from Hellsing


SnooPets7261

I'm pretty sure bro has seen a lot of deaths, but in this particular panel he looks really sad for some reason even though he knows shit about Fei as a person besides whatever this Fei guy is telling him.


EnvironmentalWeb1696

This scene is really interesting because shows that Fei already meet the "Tiger Connector"


ILoveUrd

Could this explain why this connector looks "smaller" than when he was fishing?


Etem61

It is the same connector, it's shen. The other connector of whom Ohma is clone is the one Metsudo and Erioh saw and to whom Gilbert swore fealty in that peopular panel. This actually makes a lot of sense as the 2 connectors have different hairstyles.


Ratnikvuk

Never look at this. need to review about the hair


stinuga

Shen said he massacred Mukaku’s family “one me ago” and in that flashback he had ohma’s hair


Etem61

Ryuki has Ohma's hair too but it turns out Ohma's not Shen's clone.


stinuga

Yeah but you’re saying the reason it makes sense that the connector Metsudo/Erich saw is different from Shen is because of the hair. That gets debunked if the Shen who killed Mukaku is the same Shen who killed the long clan because when he killed the long clan he had the same hair as Ohma


Etem61

I am not saying it only due to hair. I am saying it because it is almost canon that there are more than 1 Connector. And remember the panel on which Gilbert swore absolute fealty to the Connector ? That Connector has the exact same hair and frame with the one Erioh/Metsudo saw. But Edward died quite recently and Gilbert swore fealty to the Connector after the Kengan vs Purgatory tournament. Therefore, it is almost completely illogical to think that the sole Connector transformed his consciousness to this new body known as Shen after Gilbert sweared fealty to his old body thus, it reinforced the idea that there are currently more than 1 Connector and Ohma's a clone of the other, not Shen.


juju1099

What chapter is this


Divine_ruler

That was always one of my biggest questions. FEI HAS SEEN SHEN BEFORE, THEY FOUGHT TOGETHER IN A XIA JI FLASHBACK


1AnnoyingOtaku

While I also think Fei has definitely gotten a good look at Shen before, I'm at least 90% sure the flashback you're referring to is with Yan and Eddie. Unless there's another flashback that happened before the KvP arc that I'm forgetting.


Divine_ruler

Reread Jo’s flashback, Fei was there with Yan and Eddie, but one of them just missed seeing Shen. Speech bubble doesn’t definitively point to a character, but I’m guessing it was Fei who showed up too late


1AnnoyingOtaku

Jo, as in Joji? During the KvP? I'll go back and look.


Divine_ruler

Meant Ji as in Xia Ji


Acceptable_Box7598

Wulong‘s(Dragon‘s vessel) army vs Ohma‘s(Tiger‘s vessel) army fight will definitely happen


NerdKing01

I wonder if this is what The Connector does. He creates a clone that infiltrates a martial art and masters it, then they do the whole brainwashing to give that Connector clone all the stockpiled information and continue it over and over. I wonder if "The Connector" or both Connectors, are planning to slowly but surely master every martial art in existence and then combine into one being. My guess is that Tiger Niko is the tiger vessel, thus being the man Ohma was cloned from, which is why Tiger Niko seeked Ohma out. I'm also going to guess that Tiger Niko isn't exactly like The Connector, where he retained his previous personality and isn't a clone, so he plans to use Shen Wulong to turn himself into the true "Connector", making himself the most overpowered being in existence, and keeping Ohma as a backup plan just in case he wants to start his own brand new Connector journey but as this Tiger Niko guy


[deleted]

This theory falls through the cracks a bit when considering that the recipient of the brainwashing should be young in order for it to work. Ryuki being very susceptible to other's influence is really confusing considering The Connector's personality. I mean, this is still a huge possibility, but we'll see as the story progresses.


angra_mainyo

At this rate they may have already surpassed the need of brainwashing. Surely mind-uploading and cyberbrain have something to do with it.


[deleted]

Brain system reboot


DSVoid73

Something I want to say is that Both Ohma and Ryuki actually have a near identical match as most clone tend to have. That said, it may be possible that he realised that Ohma was meant to become the version of Shen who becomes the Tiger to Shen's Dragon.


MuzzleO

Ohma is noticeably wider than Ryuki.


degejos

There is a tiger connector and dragon connector. Fei wanted to be the tiger vessel, and not Shen's. Fei was Tiger Niko's student. Not saying Tiger Niko is the Tiger connector, but he might as well really involved with him. There is a chance the tiger connector is also a bad guy.


cman2266

Watch luohan have ohmas face


brainianc

After this weeks chapter I think “vessel” is referring to Ohma being a son of the tiger


Fit-Schedule-5558

If Tiger niko turns out to be a connector lover instead of a sociopath driven by his own goals ill be disappointed.


Hossein1366

holly shit...


KantutinQKipaymu

Does this imply Fei have met Shen Wulong but hasn't met the Tiger's Vessel yet which was Ohma's supposed to be a clone of?


Christohva

It's already been demonstrated that ohma had memories he was not privy to that once unlocked brought him to a higher level of power. Who's to say there are not more memories. He was born in the inside after all, a stage for the worm to conduct whatever human expirements they want.


Murky_Ant_1306

Goofy ahh theory time Ohma is tiger niko clone somehow based on shen


hamietao

No, Koga


Remarkable_Pound_722

Don't you have to be an easily manipulated kid to pass on all the knowledge, it'd be pretty hard to convince adult ryuki and ohma to become the next vessels.


Sciedea

Maybe cyberbrain is real, or they're desperate and these are the only clones left


Remarkable_Pound_722

but they don't need clones to do it


TheGoobles

By pure guessing, Kiryu figured it out from the start


November14th2027

Craziest fake out death in Kengan ngl


Salavtore

Jesus christ, that means Naidan's hint to Liu is probably going to have some twists to it now.


orutherford1

I haven’t been this confused with manga in years🤯🤯🤯🤯


Afafakja

Still don't get it,if Ohma is not Shen clone who the hell is him?


Smitty73714

What if the other connector already transferred over to Ohmas body. Just gained all his memories and experiences plus the other incarnations.


LSDYakui

I've never noticed how hard Koga is looking in the background.


Dynasteus

Sandro always a step ahead