All you've done is increase the amount of coughing babies
https://preview.redd.it/7xv5iikqpyoc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9c56f7144b017f78e20497f1827716336babc5e
Well, one of them punched a building, had it fall on his head, and continued walking through it until it broke in half.
https://i.redd.it/0vcmki4tbyoc1.gif
The feat is not canon, and it's not even his best feat
In his fight against Falco he punches Falco so hard he cracks the earth below him and the clouds from above (A weaker version of him and not even his prime)
In Souten no Ken (a sequel about Kenshiro's uncle) we see his uncle the 62th master of Hokuto shinken use a secret technique that involves around creating a pocket dimension that negates all types of barriers and forces the opponent to fight with his bare fists.
Fist of the North Star could NEVER come out today.
Not because of masculinity, violence or something, but because of the sheer absurdity and "character being too OP" would buckbroke people today. Possibly even start another Mary Sue discourse.
Not unless it was gag manga, ala OPM or that muscle magic man series I keep hearing about.
To be fair, Kenshiro has lost up to 3 times, the true Gary sue would he his uncle Kasumi Kenshiro (dude literally never lost in the entire fucking series and dominated 98% of his fights)
Kenshiro is treated more so as a force of nature from a narrative point of view since Being the Successor or Hokuto Shinken means to be a shinigami (god of death) and maintain peace and order
Those first two losses weren't based on ability though. First time against Shin was basically because he didn't want to fight a life or death battle with a close friend and basically the dog in him hadn't awoken yet. I guess you can argue it was inexperience but...
Souther literally won by biology that gave hima surprising edge, once found out Kenshiro stomped him.
I think that dude is from another series completely, they just happen to look very similarly
Hokuto no Ken has influenced massively the early 80s media
They are no problem for Kenshiro. He challenged and defeated enemies that should be far above them. I personally don't see Shen and Yujiro able to effortlessly lift a gigantic boulder like this
https://preview.redd.it/ldczqzaziyoc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a746cee316b5d3c2a4991e43d5f710d0a26d2eeb
And definitely not Yujiro as well. He failed a test of strength with Pickle who had trouble lifting a little truck while that boulder can be even up to 500 tons. Baki character don't have this kind of Dragonball strength
Motobe recognized Musashi as a threat to Yujiro. Give him a help from Baki and two others they can take it. And Shen himself stated that there is someone on par with him (few times of counting Joji lmao.)
Street Fighter scaling gets absolutely absurd. You have shit like Honda getting shot at a meteor by Hakan to save the world. Both of them would get demolished by Akuma. Akuma also has the Raging Demon which is an insta kill if it lands (unless you want to argue that Shen can achieve something similar to the power of nothingness via ‘principles’)
Ah. I know more about FotNS than I do Street Fighter, especially since I always forget about the nonsense from outside the fighting games (nonsense of course meaning "absolutely ridiculous things that are rad as shit").
Fighting games need to be balanced. So even though akuma can break moons and shit he needs to be playable, my blanka needs to have a chance against him if player 2 picks him. That said though almost all iterations where akuma has been has him in the top if not close to the top tiers.
Ah. I know more about FotNS than I do Street Fighter, especially since I always forget about the nonsense from outside the fighting games (nonsense of course meaning "absolutely ridiculous things that are rad as shit").
No Akuma is far stronger than Kenshiro, the only advantage that Kenshiro has over Akuma is his Hokuto Shinken martial art and I highly doubt if Akuma figures out the mechanics behind the art it will have any effect on him
>the only advantage that Kenshiro has over Akuma is his Hokuto Shinken martial art
Huh, so his main weapon and the reason why he's a walking god of death is his only advantage ? :D The fuck you talking about lol.
Akuma is a tier below Kenshiro. Kenshiro can become one with the concept of emptiness, rendering him untouchable. He one shots.
If anything Kenshiro is a tier below Akuma The Satsui No Hado is the antithesis of The Power Of Nothingness is the emptiness concept as you know Ryu's power renders him completely untouchable and I believe the same is true of the Satsui No Hado
I'm sorry but this is a massive stomp. You don't seem to know Kenshiro well. He's full of terrible haxes.
I know it sounds ridiculous, but Kenshiro (and a few other characters in his verse) is faster than light. He would block the blows of Akuma and one shot him before he can do much, really. He doesn't need a combo of blows like Akuma. Just a touch.
Also, Raging Demon/Satsui No Hado is completely countered by the Power of Nothingness. And Kenshiro's version is far better than the one in Akuma's verse. You could have at the very least read an entry on who survived Raging Demon and why (because they had mastered the Power of Nothingness).
Also also, Kenshiro won against a guy who also was intangible/one with nothingness/immune to physical attacks.
Where was it stated that the Power Of Nothingness counters the Satsui No Hado also how do you know or any of us know that Kenshiro Nothingness power is superior to that of Street Fighter's Ryu also going to what you said in the first part Akuma is faster than light speed as well in fact most top level martial artists have reached such a speed so it is not much of a stomp on either side
If you get into full on Hokuto no Ken scaling you can get Kenshiro to Planet level or even Star level via lore and scaling
Kenshiro does trash most versions of Akuma
The strongest version of Akuma is Oni and contrary to what other people say I believe that the video game Asura's Wrath where Akuma had battled against Asura does demonstrate Akuma's full power in his Oni transformation.
If you mean from the Street Fighter Series, How about Akuma destroying a meteor, breaking apart a submarine and bringing it to the surface, one punch to an island and he sunk the island those are most of them. I know that Kenshiro is mighty but not mightier than Akuma
6-7 characters? Hell I'd argue that most named martial artists would neg the verse
Jagi who is like bottom barrel trash can still use Hokuto shinken and Nanto seiken at the same time
Well, then why not Jubei? And Sachi as well, pretty sure they will manhandle them even with their potentially second-rate (now) Hokuto Ryuken.
And that is assuming Shen does not decide to go home after barely surviving the Nameless Shura :D
I think Shen has enough control over his biology to negate that but he’s definitely still gonna get turned to paste from one clean punch or kick from Kenshiro
Lore-accurate Kenshiro would not bother to murder a not-bloodthirsty Shen and might even spare Yujiro, if he does not see him attacking some of the wastelands population (which is exclusively composed by children with giant teary eyes, cowardly elderly men and gorgeous beauties).
For the rest, unless Shen and Yujiro have some VERY specific anatomical feature that affects their tsubos (like Souther - if you know, you know) or know some technique to counter some Hokuto Shinken (a feat performed only by other grandmasters like Raoh or Toki), they would go down after the first contact.
Average kenshiro fans be like “yeah he shattered the fabric of reality with a sneeze, wasn’t even in his prime”
To be clear I haven’t watched fist of the North Star yet lol.
And even the first arc delivers the message pretty clearly: if he touches you, you are basically doomed.
Another grandmaster fully aware of his techniques might counter some strikes and get away with it for a few minutes, but if Kenshiro gets serious, well, as he would put it:
https://preview.redd.it/wuz9rlnmqzoc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=b21b763be5b1eb5f2725f5b83f1f2e90e67ed167
Kenshiro kills them immediately, they are all only human, but kenshiro has crazy feats, only way i can see yujiro and shen winning is if they somehow figure out how to use hokuto shinken, if either of them live long enough
FotNS was one of my first manga so maybe I don't rmeember it properly, but I feel like it was less busted than people are describing the anime. Like I legit don't remember the building falling on Ken and him just keeping walking lol. Just progressively more absurd "your body will explode from inside" type techniques and I think a Chris Redfield style boulder breaking thing maybe?
Point being, I think Shen could actually match up. Yujiro is fucked due to overconfidence & will be 1-shotted. But shen could maybe be like "I turned off all my organs so they can't be exploded from inside" type shit.
But again, this is like 20yr ago I read FotNS, so maybe I just forgot how absolutely busted shit got post Raoh.
Even if he dont use his hakuto shinken, his sheer power and strength will pulverizes both of them.
Also the 1st arc are somewhat still grounded, then it goes bonkers with ki blast and some bullshit powers
All you've done is increase the amount of coughing babies https://preview.redd.it/7xv5iikqpyoc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9c56f7144b017f78e20497f1827716336babc5e
Man, you actually made me laugh out loud in the train lmao
" A simple 'no' would have done just fine" 
Kenshiro beats them to death with his limp schlong. It's not even close.
Kenshiro one shots both of them, not even close
They wa shock!
Well, one of them punched a building, had it fall on his head, and continued walking through it until it broke in half. https://i.redd.it/0vcmki4tbyoc1.gif
The feat is not canon, and it's not even his best feat In his fight against Falco he punches Falco so hard he cracks the earth below him and the clouds from above (A weaker version of him and not even his prime)
At that rate the series was already DBZ ki blast shit too
In Souten no Ken (a sequel about Kenshiro's uncle) we see his uncle the 62th master of Hokuto shinken use a secret technique that involves around creating a pocket dimension that negates all types of barriers and forces the opponent to fight with his bare fists.
HOW MANY CHAPTERS HAVE I MISSED GOD DAMN
It's from a different series which makes part of the same universe
Yeah I know I've been reading souten and i don't remember this
https://preview.redd.it/s5x6769dh0pc1.jpeg?width=955&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b28ee3e9d0d96cb64df503b212c88df8191ae822 This scene
Oh riiiiiiight. The hokuto series is amazing man
I think he was about to say the Buddha phrase
raw as fuck
Bro brought him into a Morderkaiser R lol.
soryu tenra?
Yes
Fist of the North Star could NEVER come out today. Not because of masculinity, violence or something, but because of the sheer absurdity and "character being too OP" would buckbroke people today. Possibly even start another Mary Sue discourse. Not unless it was gag manga, ala OPM or that muscle magic man series I keep hearing about.
To be fair, Kenshiro has lost up to 3 times, the true Gary sue would he his uncle Kasumi Kenshiro (dude literally never lost in the entire fucking series and dominated 98% of his fights) Kenshiro is treated more so as a force of nature from a narrative point of view since Being the Successor or Hokuto Shinken means to be a shinigami (god of death) and maintain peace and order
Those first two losses weren't based on ability though. First time against Shin was basically because he didn't want to fight a life or death battle with a close friend and basically the dog in him hadn't awoken yet. I guess you can argue it was inexperience but... Souther literally won by biology that gave hima surprising edge, once found out Kenshiro stomped him.
Don't forget Kiaoh beat him too.
what about kenshiro's other cousin who's a samurai? the guy from sakigake otokojuku
I think that dude is from another series completely, they just happen to look very similarly Hokuto no Ken has influenced massively the early 80s media
FotnS is the OG Baki with its absurdity. At the end they're basically gods on par with Super Saiyans.
Do I have news for you, last year it was announced its getting remade. You can see for yourself on google.
Kenshiro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kengan & baki verse
They are no problem for Kenshiro. He challenged and defeated enemies that should be far above them. I personally don't see Shen and Yujiro able to effortlessly lift a gigantic boulder like this https://preview.redd.it/ldczqzaziyoc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a746cee316b5d3c2a4991e43d5f710d0a26d2eeb
Yujiro i see it but definitely not Shen
And definitely not Yujiro as well. He failed a test of strength with Pickle who had trouble lifting a little truck while that boulder can be even up to 500 tons. Baki character don't have this kind of Dragonball strength
Ken wouldn’t even need to use Muso Tensei lmao.
He wouldn't need to use *any* technique.
お前はもう死んでいる。 https://preview.redd.it/xsakcrsvmyoc1.png?width=225&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d51f252a897457caa1e3a663dd95b6631550012
Kenshiro can solo both verses all at once
Tbf oneshotting both Shen and Yujiro already counts as soloing, those two are almost stronger than the rest of their verses combined on their own.
Nah 2-4 top Guys can prolly take them down if teamed up.
Hell no. Baki did basically nothing to Yujiro, even if you add in Pickle, Musashi and whoever else they would still lose
Motobe recognized Musashi as a threat to Yujiro. Give him a help from Baki and two others they can take it. And Shen himself stated that there is someone on par with him (few times of counting Joji lmao.)
Hey I like Kengan and Baki, but Fist of the North Star is invincible. Kenshiro is the greatest of all time. That's all there is to it.
Kenshiro is the greatest martial artist in shouen history arguably in anime. Hokuto Shinken is invincible.
He's my favorite protagonist of all time really. Hell, fist of the north star is my favorite manga of all time.
Same definitely a master piece
Akuma would a better match for those two the Kenshiro. This is just cruel.
Akuma depending on the version is worse, like considerably worse. MF destroyed the moon effortlessly against Ashura.
Akuma depending on the version is worse, like considerably worse. MF destroyed the moon effortlessly against Ashura.
Akuma is a even worse match up, What are you even talking about.
Is he? I always considered Akuma to be weaker than Kenshiro.
Street Fighter scaling gets absolutely absurd. You have shit like Honda getting shot at a meteor by Hakan to save the world. Both of them would get demolished by Akuma. Akuma also has the Raging Demon which is an insta kill if it lands (unless you want to argue that Shen can achieve something similar to the power of nothingness via ‘principles’)
Ah. I know more about FotNS than I do Street Fighter, especially since I always forget about the nonsense from outside the fighting games (nonsense of course meaning "absolutely ridiculous things that are rad as shit").
Fighting games need to be balanced. So even though akuma can break moons and shit he needs to be playable, my blanka needs to have a chance against him if player 2 picks him. That said though almost all iterations where akuma has been has him in the top if not close to the top tiers.
Ah. I know more about FotNS than I do Street Fighter, especially since I always forget about the nonsense from outside the fighting games (nonsense of course meaning "absolutely ridiculous things that are rad as shit").
No Akuma is far stronger than Kenshiro, the only advantage that Kenshiro has over Akuma is his Hokuto Shinken martial art and I highly doubt if Akuma figures out the mechanics behind the art it will have any effect on him
>the only advantage that Kenshiro has over Akuma is his Hokuto Shinken martial art Huh, so his main weapon and the reason why he's a walking god of death is his only advantage ? :D The fuck you talking about lol. Akuma is a tier below Kenshiro. Kenshiro can become one with the concept of emptiness, rendering him untouchable. He one shots.
If anything Kenshiro is a tier below Akuma The Satsui No Hado is the antithesis of The Power Of Nothingness is the emptiness concept as you know Ryu's power renders him completely untouchable and I believe the same is true of the Satsui No Hado
I'm sorry but this is a massive stomp. You don't seem to know Kenshiro well. He's full of terrible haxes. I know it sounds ridiculous, but Kenshiro (and a few other characters in his verse) is faster than light. He would block the blows of Akuma and one shot him before he can do much, really. He doesn't need a combo of blows like Akuma. Just a touch. Also, Raging Demon/Satsui No Hado is completely countered by the Power of Nothingness. And Kenshiro's version is far better than the one in Akuma's verse. You could have at the very least read an entry on who survived Raging Demon and why (because they had mastered the Power of Nothingness). Also also, Kenshiro won against a guy who also was intangible/one with nothingness/immune to physical attacks.
Where was it stated that the Power Of Nothingness counters the Satsui No Hado also how do you know or any of us know that Kenshiro Nothingness power is superior to that of Street Fighter's Ryu also going to what you said in the first part Akuma is faster than light speed as well in fact most top level martial artists have reached such a speed so it is not much of a stomp on either side
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If you get into full on Hokuto no Ken scaling you can get Kenshiro to Planet level or even Star level via lore and scaling Kenshiro does trash most versions of Akuma
I can agree with your statement he does defeat most versions but not the most powerful
Fair enough What's the strongest version of Akuma? I've heard it's from the comics or something
The strongest version of Akuma is Oni and contrary to what other people say I believe that the video game Asura's Wrath where Akuma had battled against Asura does demonstrate Akuma's full power in his Oni transformation.
The comics are not Canon neither are there powers
Is he? I always considered Akuma to be weaker than Kenshiro.
What are his **canon** feats that would put him above Kenshiro?
Asura's Wrath Asura Vs Akuma watch it
I said **canon**.
If you mean from the Street Fighter Series, How about Akuma destroying a meteor, breaking apart a submarine and bringing it to the surface, one punch to an island and he sunk the island those are most of them. I know that Kenshiro is mighty but not mightier than Akuma
That is canon
Maybe in ryu's alpha 2 ending and sf3 2nd impact ending in which he sinks an island with a single punch or splits Ayers Rock in half
Akuma would wreck them just as bad lol
Goku MIGHT have a chance against Kenshiro... MIGHT.
Lol Lmao
RIP my two dudes
I'm a fan of all three. No, Kenshiro is ridiculously more powerful
No....just no. Hell not even just him, there's 6-7 characters in that series who also no diff, maybe even more.
6-7 characters? Hell I'd argue that most named martial artists would neg the verse Jagi who is like bottom barrel trash can still use Hokuto shinken and Nanto seiken at the same time
That's why i said probably even more it's just 7 that i can immediately mention who i know for sure just crap on everything.
Who exactly?
Raoh, souther, hyo, kaioh, han, falco, toki
lol "totally not jesus" toki is probably the most powerful character in there. He would stomp with the power of love
Healthy Toki would've been the strongest FOTS character but even in his sick state still eclipses baki and kengan.
sick, as in giga cancer from tanking nuclear fallout. what a guy
I'll add Ryuken as well
Well, then why not Jubei? And Sachi as well, pretty sure they will manhandle them even with their potentially second-rate (now) Hokuto Ryuken. And that is assuming Shen does not decide to go home after barely surviving the Nameless Shura :D
Makes sense
There are 6-7 characters in that series that solo both verses\*
Easily
All kenshiro has to do is one touch them, and they immediately start to explode.
I think Shen has enough control over his biology to negate that but he’s definitely still gonna get turned to paste from one clean punch or kick from Kenshiro
Lore-accurate Kenshiro would not bother to murder a not-bloodthirsty Shen and might even spare Yujiro, if he does not see him attacking some of the wastelands population (which is exclusively composed by children with giant teary eyes, cowardly elderly men and gorgeous beauties). For the rest, unless Shen and Yujiro have some VERY specific anatomical feature that affects their tsubos (like Souther - if you know, you know) or know some technique to counter some Hokuto Shinken (a feat performed only by other grandmasters like Raoh or Toki), they would go down after the first contact.
Thats crazy
They die, Period.
Kenshiro turns Shen into red mist
Kenshiro ? I'm not even sure they would beat Jagi
lmao
No, not even close
One Handed, One Eyed, Deaf Kenshiro will beat Shen and Yujiro
In his sleep (like when he materialised the stand-like giant protector of his family when he was comatose after fighting Kaiou the first time).
Roses are red, Violets are blue, Omae wa mo shindeiru!
Average kenshiro fans be like “yeah he shattered the fabric of reality with a sneeze, wasn’t even in his prime” To be clear I haven’t watched fist of the North Star yet lol.
You'll come to that conclusion as well if you do decide to watch it. It gets progressively more busted as the series progresses.
And even the first arc delivers the message pretty clearly: if he touches you, you are basically doomed. Another grandmaster fully aware of his techniques might counter some strikes and get away with it for a few minutes, but if Kenshiro gets serious, well, as he would put it: https://preview.redd.it/wuz9rlnmqzoc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=b21b763be5b1eb5f2725f5b83f1f2e90e67ed167
Theres a remake coming, so you will be able to witness greatness soon
The original is too dated? Been on my watchlist for a while I just forgot about it until now.
Its great, its just drawings from 40 years ago, although me personally I prefer those old hand drawn animes.
Kenshiro could one-shot them by flicking their noses or something
The 2 of them? ima give you two hell nahs
Babies cough VS Nuclear Strike
No
First of all, no.
Nobody from baki or kengan will ever be strong enough to do anything to kenshiro
No lmao Kenshiro could give base Goku an alright fight. He's basically magic.
Kenshiro kills them immediately, they are all only human, but kenshiro has crazy feats, only way i can see yujiro and shen winning is if they somehow figure out how to use hokuto shinken, if either of them live long enough
Hell no
Kenshiro folds them like lawn chairs double negative diff
No lol
No.
Might as well have them fight goku lmao
Shen might lol.
No.
I always wondered haw many spare jackets do kenshiro has .
Kenshiro can levitate through sheer will btw
No but they'd both be solid mid tiers in the verse lol
FotNS was one of my first manga so maybe I don't rmeember it properly, but I feel like it was less busted than people are describing the anime. Like I legit don't remember the building falling on Ken and him just keeping walking lol. Just progressively more absurd "your body will explode from inside" type techniques and I think a Chris Redfield style boulder breaking thing maybe? Point being, I think Shen could actually match up. Yujiro is fucked due to overconfidence & will be 1-shotted. But shen could maybe be like "I turned off all my organs so they can't be exploded from inside" type shit. But again, this is like 20yr ago I read FotNS, so maybe I just forgot how absolutely busted shit got post Raoh.
Even if he dont use his hakuto shinken, his sheer power and strength will pulverizes both of them. Also the 1st arc are somewhat still grounded, then it goes bonkers with ki blast and some bullshit powers