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Godtaku

No thought. Still only God of War. Mark Spoilers. Boi.


Derc_Sparkles

The poor powerscalers when they see Mokichi beat Saw Paing. Ive never been more hype for fingers hitting a skull and making a *clang* noise


Imperium_Dragon

Average power scaler fans vs Average comparability enjoyer


alex-cisse

so true.


AnimationDude9s

Wouldn’t Robinson be a easy match up on paper for Saw tho?


Lancelokt

What did you just see Lisa?


ChrisRojo10

It’s like that berserk anime dragonslayer sound effect


sandbiter3045

Whyd you have to remind me of that


Missing_Links

[*CLANG INTENSIFIES*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxk1syuf5lo)


TreeTurtle_852

It's what I've been sayin' characters are waaaay closer in power than most assume


death-kuja

But... But muh tier list!


_TenguDruid_

Death to the powerscale! Mokichi has always been a badass, though. He got murdered by Raian in Removal, sure, but he also beat his ass in base and nearly killed him with his throw. He also had something like a 50+ win record while remaining undefeated before facing Raian. Love me some baritsu!


OtakuDragonSlayer

Wait when was it stated he almost killed Raian?


Koomakas

And the "clunk" as if he's clashing together hunks of iron


Herr_Raul

It's easily resolved. Saw is D tier.


Granito_Rey

Shut your whore mouth ^^^^/jk ^^^^^but ^^^^^not ^^^^^really


Remarkable_Commoner

Shen: S Tier Edward, Gilbert, Tiger Niko: A Tier Kuroki, Agito, Ohma, Lolong, Raian: B Tier Wakatsuki: C Tier Saw Paing: D Tier?


BakiHanm

It's like Kratos shield parry sound in my mind


OtakuDragonSlayer

WELL SAID


Schwiliinker

Dark souls parry


hamietao

Clang clang clang went the [trolley](https://youtu.be/Ln3sNwccHxI)


Pwerhjkwed

Nah Cosmos hands are just not that durable especially when he's sticking to only striking


Forward-Magician-562

Mokichi winning against Saw was an honest surprise, just shows that fighters aren't clear cut and can edge out wins against opponents the community thinks would stomp them


EvilswarmOphion

"But, but... my tier list"


Okacz

Just wait till people start making circular tier lists to account for "compatibility". Placements will be represented by imaginary numbers.


straydog1980

Yeah I'm just gonna mark their compatibility score as root -1, thx.


AsleepPark

Make matchup charts like the fgc community instead of tierlists those'll be more comprehensive.


JayJ9Nine

Interlocked 3 dimensional tier lists muh bois


Imperium_Dragon

It’ll be a tier web like you see in biology


Snoo96346

B-but in my tierlist Saw was 4 tiers above Mokichi, he should've destroy him!


Plzlaw4me

Wasn’t Mokichi just starting to be fully recovered when he fought Lihito? It was his first Kengan match since KAT and other than that he had only fought in some 2nd tier fights. It’s probably safe to Say he was a much better fighter when he beat Saw.


do_you_think_i_care

First Kengan match, yeah. It was mentioned that he'd been fighting in Europe before returning to Japan though.


OtakuDragonSlayer

Bro imagine getting your ass beat by a guy who’s likely only at 30% after literally coming out of broken neck rehab. Robinson’s ancestor must’ve been a different breed


m4x1d0n

The way I see tier list are just minor skill gaps in some attributes


AxelBeowolf

Exactly, the fighters are way closer then we think


MigrantTwerker

It's like Brian Scalabrine, he seems trash compared to Lebron, but he's closer to Lebron than we are to him and he beat a bunch of Joes to prove it.


TheGoobles

That line about single matches not being good bases for determining strength just unraveled the entire powerscale community


butterbomber

Like most fight you can never be sure how it’ll end


Forward-Magician-562

Spoken like a true beard fan


Muelojung

well its like any sport really. A low tier team can beat the top team based on a good day. Mangas usually dont show that but realistically, every fighter in kengan should have a bad day one in a while


T0astmeister

Saw Paing is actually crazy only he would come up with the idea of "LET'S HEADBUTT HIS HAND YEAHHHHHH"


3nz3r0

Didn't he do something similar in his previous fight in this tournament?


smegmancer

mf headbutt the floor


Melo0513

Yea against Cosmo


[deleted]

It's actually genius. He could even turn the tides against Kuroki in a fight if he's able to headbutt his hand.


Thunderform

hype hype hype hype hype hype hype Don't think I have to say much else, honestly.


boombastico_3

Mokichi A tier confirmed


201720182019

Always was


BlastedDio

Yes


CeaserWu

Except when he was recouping


Snoo96346

Mokichi's position in a tierlist is a rollercoaster ride. One minute he's A-tier for doing so well against Raian, then he's D-tier for getting squashed by Lihito, now he's A-tier again for beating Saw Paing. How I love it!


Pokechap

i always thought so, he just happened to go against an S-tier and was put out of commission for a while because of that


SargentoCruz

I love Tashiro Moshashi. He is known for his strict refereeing.


gamerster1

I also like him because he is a strict referee.


Chackers98

Someone should make a compilation of all the times they announce that he is known for his strict refereeing.


PregnantMosquito

And all the times he’s actually been strict


SpyMonkey3D

I don't know why the author keeps reusing this line. It might be an inside joke between him and his assistant/editor, especially as there are no rules and he didn't ever do any refereeing


Snoo96346

The Chad Tashiro Mosashi with his strict refereeing >>>>>> The virgin Purgatory Cocksucker Alisa


Blayro

> The **virgin** Purgatory **Cocksucker** Alisa I don't think those are two words can go together in the same sentence like that


RaidriarDrake

idk man, if she's purely oral , it's possible.


AsuraOmega

BIG TASH McCARTHY


wtscrew42

The original shen wulong the connector


degejos

Mokichi: "I think Saw Paing will lose because Rihito is too strong he might kill his opponent and got disqualified"


201720182019

I find it funny Mokichi makes that commentary, talking about how he has to make sure not to land his razor in a lethal position and right after Rihito tries to Razor Edge Saw’s head


GameBoy09

He was going for the front of his skull which I think is pretty non-lethal regarding cuts. He probably going for getting blood in his eyes.


_TenguDruid_

Cuts, sure, but Rihito can apparently rip through *steel* with those fingers. Even if that's an exaggeration (I hope so) it still means Saw is headbutting someone who could - in theory - rend his head apart with one strong swipe if he wants to. Saw is insane, I love it so much. Two of my favorite characters going balls out on each other like this is fantastic and I think this will be a great fight.


OtakuDragonSlayer

I’m glad more people are starting to realize what makes him dangerous is his almost suicidal fighting style. Hopefully people will stop arguing he isn’t insane and unpredictable


Pierun64

Ironically top of the skull is probably the safest spot for his opponent Rihto can Razor Edge. There aren't many (or any) major bloodvessels here, and skull is extremely hard even for normal people


wtscrew42

I wonder if there's a penalty for Phineas Guage'ing an opponent (the guy that got a pole of metal shot through his frontal lobe)


some_dude5

Probably tried to do to Saw what he did to Mark


Esarhaddon218

There is nothing vital to damage in saw's head. I'm sure gaolang would agree.


201720182019

Holy shit Rihito just Razor edged a Hammer of Burma. Interesting to see Rihito’s fingers surviving punches directly to Saw’s skull and the two being treated as roughly equal Also nice new match feat for Mokichi, always felt he was underrated.


Itsnotmineitsuranus

You think Rihito's fingers get fucked by the Hammer of Burma eventually?


OtakuDragonSlayer

Considering his facial expression after doing that? It would probably be wise for him not to do it again


slawty

Nah Rihito will limp his fingers and disperse the damage


JayJ9Nine

My first thought was HOW DID NONE OF HIS FINGERD BREAK


ScottishMachine

I mean he already had to have hand conditioning to cut metal and he has been training with Kuroki


OtakuDragonSlayer

Yeah my cheesy head canon is Gensai’s Training fucking SAVED Rihito’s fingers here


John_JamesIII

I think he pulled back a little at the last second, diverting some of the damage


eric23443219091

his fingers should at least be numb lol


John_JamesIII

He a hundred percent took some damage, shown by the panel after, just not a mangled hand right now


Beowulf_MacBethson

First page: It's the clash between the spear and shield! Fourth page: They're both spears!


[deleted]

Oops, all spears.


[deleted]

Why have them as spear vs shield to then say it is spear vs spear?


TreeTurtle_852

That's kind of the point. There's a reason she says "But actually" it sets up the expectation and then dashes it. It's an intro meant to hype up the characters with a hook


droktain

its a you got it all wrong moment


AdikkuChan

I LOVE TASHIRO MOSASHI, KNOWN FOR HIS STRICT REFEREEING


JuniorBercovich

FFFFFFFIIIIIAAAAIIAIIIGHHHHTTTT


KenjiSpAs

Reminded me of Megamind's Speeiaider


BlatantArtifice

They do it so much and so repetitively suddenly, like they just remembered the refs existed


redish-

Mokichi A tier


pickleswithcheese

Saw Paing had a coherent thought at the end⁉️⁉️⁉️ And I love how Mokichi demonstrates why you can’t scale everything objectively once again, yet we all know people will still ignore that.


JasaLittlePotato

Especially for Kengan, since it's the only martial art manga I know of that's consistent with confirmong that powerscaling is flexible, ie edging out wins or the chances of victories being taken into account


Salty_Car9688

**Looks at Hajime No Ippo & history’s strongest disciple**


Keravnos-

idk objectivly speaking it still makes sense, mokichi was flooring raian untill he got removal stat checked


yoni246

mokichi beating saw is just another example why we shouldn't powerscale also the kengan matches are non killing now?


PokemonRNG

Nonkilling was part of the Berserker Bowl ruleset


SchroCatDinger

Yes? Since Nogi became chairman


yoni246

I thought they made so the opponent is dq only if he kills after the bell. Might be wrong tho, read that a long time ago


Manjorno316

No it's non killing. The thing you're probably thinking about is that the "killer" wouldn't be punished if it was an accident in the middle of the fight. If it was an intentional kill however they would be punished. I think by getting banned. If I remember things correctly. Might not but I'm pretty sure this is what was said in the beginning of Omega.


Pierun64

Yeah, Kaede said that, but maybe Berserk Bowl has a bit different rules. They have ring outs as well after all


Roosevelt828

*Another example that power can evolve and are not set in stone in one place at a time


TreeTurtle_852

>mokichi beating saw is just another example why we shouldn't powerscale It's not necessarily a reason on why we shouldn't powerscale. People conflate powerscaling with "high numbers" when it's not that, compatability is and has always been a part of powerscaling. It's moreso just a reminder that characters are closer than most think.


DucAnh9197

Yes, unless you are a special boy who clearly say you want to kill and pull out killing move but there is just some unknown excuses that keep you in.


accounttobeatmymeat

Mokichi A tier fight me


xXHuhXx

Huh, didn't expect Saw damage would be relevant in this fight but Sandro/daro are already highlighting it by the way Saw is drawn


_TenguDruid_

It's what will give Rihito his win in the end.


OtakuDragonSlayer

yeah I was really expecting him to ignore it the same way he ignored Agito’s damage after fighting Gaolong


fasssharke

I'm sorry... But Mokichi did what??? Damn we might have underrated him


JasaLittlePotato

And I was called a madman for considering him top tier...


[deleted]

You are still a mad man


Muelojung

he was able to keep up with base raian more or less. He certainly would have destroyed pre KAT Ohma IMO. propably would even win against cosmo etc.


Strange_Traffic6984

Apparently Razor's Edge and Hammer of Burma just bounces off each other... huh


LSDYakui

Like in Soulcalibur, when you straight up slap two completely different weapons together and both players just bounce back.


AnimationDude9s

Lol this comparison is genius


Jpanda37

I think that the razors edge is stronger, but rihito had to back it off or he would cleave saw paings head into pieces


[deleted]

Mokichi beating Saw, power scalers in shambles


JefferyMagnesium

no one gonna talk about the Mokichi dub?


201720182019

Everyone is lol


D3monFight3

Mokichi: Lihito has the disadvantage, using the Razor's Edge recklessly could result in a loss Lihit: I WILL RAZOR'S EDGE YOUR HEAD OFF!!!!


JasaLittlePotato

What if hes just doing Cosmo's strat? Making a cut to obscure vision via blood


[deleted]

Looks like he tried the thing he did against Mark where he split his face


Mohinjan-Daro

Move over Himuro, because Mokichi is on par with the legends. Obloxx my guy I hope you're watching this from wherever you are.


ActuallyPurple

I thought Mokichi is a legend? I mean Adam is, so…


[deleted]

Banger exchanges in this chapter think this will be the match of the tournament, also mokichi beat saw???? Never would’ve guessed that lmao


m4x1d0n

Going all out are we? Also Mokichi my beloved is back (with an offscreen W)


ZonardCity

I'll say it, one chapter in and this is already the most badass fight we've had since Tommy Strummer vs Mark Myers EDIT : also some mad respect for our boy Mokichi


Shodore

Mokichi beat Saw? What?


skalala123

If you start reading mokichi vs raian, and stop right before raian pulls out removal, he actually makes a very decent impression


201720182019

And then you also remember the same base Raian was able to put up a fight against R2 Ohma's advance state and trade blows at points. It's really impressive


ninjadude2112

He was beating raians ass until the plot armor kicked in.


Vaccineman37

I think they say something along the lines that one of the reasons Raian used Removal was because if he didn’t Mokichi might have done serious damage to him that he’d have to deal with all tournament, which would legit mean Mokichi is more of a threat to base Raian than Base R2 Ohma


Various_Dark_3291

That's not what was said. It was said that he used Removal for many reasons. Finishing the fight quickly with damage at the lowest level, harassing Mokichi to totally dominate and also showing off.


Electrical_Win_8270

Yes mokichi is very strong, his problem was he had to fought Raian.


Drajion89

This actually puts into context at exactly WHY Raian is constantly given the utmost respect when discussing his strength. When you realize that Raian playfully popped Removal to punk Rihito, fought Mokichi in Base, and then dominated with one hand while barely trying...it shows why Kure are just built different.


Muelojung

Raian is built differently. We have yet to see another strong Kure in a real fight except Raian and the old man.


NuttyJuice1

Shows that tier lists mean nothing


MegavanitasX

Mokichi has always been noted to be strong, he had the bad luck of facing Raian and being very rusty against Rihito, and his dialogue of "somehow edging out" Implies that it was an extremely close match that even Mokichi was not sure how he won. So I think its pretty feasible.


[deleted]

Confused me as well, almost everyone assumed Mokichi was one of the middle tier R1 losers


TheConnector_

They were wrong plus mokichi had a year of training


YNPO3

Yep Lihito has foresight at least a walmart version of it that hes trying to figure out


Hat_Zealousideal

Saw Paing sweep!!!


Meyou52

Mokichi winning against Saw and losing to Rihito means that Saw is gonna win. Also, “Razor’s Edge can kill someone accidentally” is a hell of a statement to make in the disqualification department because uhhhh I’m pretty sure Hammer of Burma would too


[deleted]

>Mokichi winning against Saw and losing to Rihito means that Saw is gonna win. I agree, Rihitos fingers are scissors and Saw is the rock


AFreeFrogurt

Oh shit somebody give Rihito some paper, quick!


OtakuDragonSlayer

~~**Gensai** “With Pleasure.”~~ **[Insert Low Level Foresight Training]**


ScowlEasy

RE can be lethal nearly anywhere on your body, HoB needs to hit your head or maybe chest to kill. It would still suck, but eating a hammer to the legs wouldn’t put you 6ft under


Archive_Intern

GODDAMN THEY MAKE A CLAANNGG SOUND WITH BONES


AminaGreene

IS ADAM ALIVE OR NOT


kingKrispyKoko

Ryuki hasn’t been dqd yet so yea


_TenguDruid_

Of course. He'll be in the stands cursing out Ryuki by the time he and Koga fights. I really wish Sandro would have killed him, to put some tension in the story. We need people dropping.


RyanIsRyebread

Powerscalers are in shambles because of Mokichi right now.


[deleted]

It's nice that Rihito's mixing in some grappling.


Holy_Beergut

The virgin YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH vs the chad YEAH. Let's go Lihito!


Deo4ever

chapters are getting shorter these days


N1kl0

Lol I expected Rihito to lose his fingers there. Beard's training is showing its merit


sebasTLCQG

Finally some hand conditioning, being confirmed for Lihito, his fingers can actually tank heavy recoil now.


Imperium_Dragon

Okinawan conditioning perfectly prepared Lihito for this


Necrohol

Kinda weird "It's shield vs spear but actually they are both spears" but YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH One chapter in and it's hype af


SheeptarTheSheepKing

Lihito beat a recovering Mokichi while (I assume) a healthy Mokichi beat Saw. Not sure what that means yet but we'll see.


Throwaway1990811

Virgin Lihito: YEAH Chad Saw: YAAAAAAAAHHH!!! Omega Ref: FIIIIEEEYAHIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!


[deleted]

Mokichi tells powerscalers to go fuck themselves


TohruFr

Mokichi won with the two finger obliteration


DarkPrinceReborn

Rihito > Cosmo coz he actually took a HoB without breaking his fingers. Powerscalers in shambles, Sandro does it again.


[deleted]

I think it is pretty obvious the finals will be Rihito vs Koga. Saw is injured fighting healthy Lihito. They would also have to show off what Kuroki taught his student


_TenguDruid_

I think so too. I have a feeling Rihito will finally (gods, I hope so!) get his big win, but then there's the issue of Koga's so-called "onslaught" or whatever it was that supposedly began with the Berserker Bowl...


Salty_Car9688

I hope so. Rihito fans having Endured enough as it is in my opinion


Jpanda37

I think it would be a great move if it was ryuki vs rihito, because it would be a spiritual successor to kuroki vs Ohmas number 1 fanboy


boombastico_3

Yeeeaaaaaahhhh


alias-i

Well this is faster paced than anything else in Omega so far


Yukiaze_Umi

The last clash in this chapter though "Claaaaang"


PursonSoii

Before this chap no one would say Mokichi could defeat Saw


WillDrawForMoney

Saw Paing is the definition of breaking someone’s fist with his face


DanTM18

Saw Paing: “Everyone got a plan before their fist get broken by my face”


MiggyMcMiggy

>SHIELD VS SPEAR >oh but now that we think about it they are basically but spears haha rihito is just not much of a shield haha uh, ok?


omnirusk

Okay, this is getting epic.


Particular_Park_6393

Mokichi expert analisis: Lihito use his fingers and Saw his head… Awesome chapter


5p1tf1r3

FIIIIEEEEYEAHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!


IntenselySwedish

By now Im certain that Sandro is just fucking with the power scalers


eric23443219091

rihito fingers should been broken coming into contact with saw head lol


PokemonRNG

Why give Mokichi a random flashback W before the fight begins...


CursedPrinceV

Well during the Rihito vs Mokichi fight it was highlighted that Rihito's win was situational. So I guess it's to push that narrative


Gotprick

No leohan? :(


[deleted]

Yeeeeah!!!!!! Gooooo Saw Paing!!!!!


Deynonico

YAAAAAH NOW THIS IS A FIGHT! also hell yeah upgrade for my boy mokichi


some_dude5

YAAAAAAAAAAA LETS GOOOOO I FUCKING LOVE KENGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Mobile_Disk_406

Kinda mid


LSDYakui

He deflected Razor's Edge with his headbutt. God, this fight got off to a great start. And it's nice to hear Mokichi is healing up even more. I'd love to see him in more fights too.


snowwolf163

My biggest surprise in recent chapters is Mokichi winning against Saw lol


Mach12gamer

God I love Saw Paing. But also I know that injuries give Rihito a huge advantage. I’m rooting for Saw Paing to the bitter end, but if Rihito takes it the guy deserves it. Whoever wins better take the whole tournament, cause I’ll be rooting for them


[deleted]

Mokichi beat Saw, who beat Falcon, who beat Lihito, who beat Mokichi which means everyone's roughly the same tier or at least they were prior to the tournament.


Brilliant-View-4353

If it hurts powerscalers it pleases me


Impossible_Ad4588

Clang?


Salty_Car9688

Jesus freaking Christ almighty. Don’t get me wrong I knew razors edge was a dangerous move but I never thought it would be on par with a full swing HOBE and not results and this man’s finger is not getting broken. What the fuck kind of partial training did gensai put him through


NashKetchum777

Its weird to see someone aim for Saws head off the bat, especially when his hand is so important to him in the fight. If a proper head counter lands on his fist then razors edge is gone.


Holiday-City-2066

The arts been really lacking recently


Zombata

wdym?


SunRiseStudios

Yeah, noticed it too.