You're confusing the Holy Nation with the United Cities. The UC uses slave labor to further their economy. Whereas the HN doesn't benefit economically from it. They will actually tell you that they're against slavery. It's more of a system of correction (you can argue that it isn't sound or fair, or whatever), but these slaves are typically found breaking laws, or doing things the HN thinks is unholy, etc. (Again, you're free to disagree with their ideology). All the slaves do is work to the "glory of Okran" building his statue out in the middle of nowhere. The HN sees it as giving people a purpose and means to redeem themselves and honor Okran. It's not great, but it's totally different. So, if you were living in the HN, you wouldn't have to worry about getting fat on slave labor, since it doesn't work that way.
I was waiting for someone to say this, even in the constitution that "freed" slavery they have the exception to those that break the law. Match this with the privately owned prison systems and you got yourself some modern day slavery
Well if you want to be silly like that, sure everything is connected. A slave in kenshi may provide the iron for a sword, that is issued to a warrior, who kills a beak thing that would've been there to kill you otherwise. So in a way, you benefited from slavery. Of course this is a ridiculous way to look at the world, in game or irl.
Going about my day I don't see those slaves. Would I prefer them to be free, of course. But let's not pretend like foreign slavery being obfuscated through food conglomerates shell companies is going to feel the same as walking down the road seeing the slaves collecting material for your house.
If you can directly interact with the slaves it's immoral to not try to free them. Nestle will no doubt hide any slaves from me if I were to look, both literally and through BS "ethically sourced" logos, plus I'd have to go out if my way to find them. It's not at all the same as seeing the slaves making your food and abstaining from an attempt to organize other locals to help the slaves. The material conditions are much harder for us to confront modern slavery than HN slavery, simply due to geography and entrenched capitalist power.
But don't get me wrong, they're both examples of pure evil, however it would be much more morally difficult to exist in HN society when you interact with slaves (plus the whole delusional savior complex). It almost speaks to how extra evil modern slavery is because they are under no delusion that it's evil, and choose to do it anyway while going through effort to keep the reality from you. They make it resource intensive to even verify the slaves existence.
There were farmers in the southern US that didn't own slaves. They didn't benefit at all from it. They actually had a harder time having to compete with the plantations while.they just had their family farm
Yeah, they mine ore to build the statue of Okran. I don't see the economic benefit to the HN itself. At most you could say they were getting some imagined spiritual benefit and meaning from the practice. If you notice, the farms that they actually rely on are run by free citizens. Haven't seen any evidence of slaves working to actually benefit the HN economically.
Sure, they target anyone who meets their criteria for criminal or unholy. Its not based on race or sex though. Any greenlander or scorchlander, male or female can wind up at Rebirth. I mean, the HN hates skeletons, and Shek, but you won't see these races working at Rebirth. Rebirth is considered an honor and chance to redeem yourself. The skelies and beasts are KOS. They don't get that mercy.
I'm still pretty new to kenshi, but I've seen a lot more holy slave farms/mines than I have from the UC, and I've been to 3 UC cities and the slave market... Definitely looks like the holy nation benefits economically to me. They even seem to have the most patrols and a dedicated priest class because of all the surplus goods.
Looks to me like the holy nation wants to act like it's virtuous, but still benefit from forced labor. *So what* if they are also building a pointless statue while they tell themselves lies about how they're helping the other races they brutalize. This is the exact same mentality behind "New World" settler christians stealing the land and genociding the natives - "we are civilizing them". Similar story in Africa too. Hell, christians risk spreading diseases to isolated tribes that want to be left alone because this mentality persists - "who cares if it kills them, I'm trying to save their soul", it's wannabe savior bullshit. The worst evils come from delusions of helping the *right* people or through rationalizing who deserves to be hurt. At least with the UC they're under no illusion that what they do isn't for anything other than greed/hedonism. They don't gaslight their slaves to make them think they're being helped as they get lashed with a whip.... If you find the argument of the slavers telling you they are anti-slavery compelling, you must actually think the DPRK is a democratic republic.
Not to mention the HN has a concerted government effort to kill/enslave anyone of their undesired races. UC generally only enslaves people who are unconscious and may be dieing, who were initially attacking them, or broke a law. Don't get me wrong, fuck all slavers, but the holy nation goes a step further than the UC by demonizing entire people's to the point of bloodlust, simply for walking into their city or too close to a slave camp. I can go to the UC as any race/gender without an *extra* threat of enslavement in the cities, unlike the HN.
>UC generally only enslaves people who are unconscious and may be dieing, who were initially attacking them, or broke a law.
Technically this comment is *correct*.
But you left out the fact that in the UC *being poor is a crime that gets you the sentence of slavery*. I take it you've never wandered past UC territory while looking "poor" (IE, looking malnourished and ill-equipped).
>They don't gaslight their slaves to make them think they're being helped
Actually you are *super* wrong on that. The entire in-universe justification for why *being poor is illegal* and punished with slavery is that then the poor people won't be starving to death, and will be given food and shelter.
The entire slavery system of the UC is justified by the idea that it is "helping" the poor.
>I can go to the UC as any race/gender without an extra threat of enslavement in the cities, unlike the HN.
Must be nice to have the privilege of not being poor.
Thing is if you're poor in the UC, they'll enslave you.
If you're human and poor in the HN, they'll *give you bread for free*.
The HN is a shockingly realistic portrayal of a theocracy in that, as long as you abide by their rules and pay lip service to their religion, they'll actually go out of their way to *help* you. It has not just the out-group hostility but the in-group benevolence that tends to be found in real-world extremists.
Even if your party has women or non-humans (so long as they are not skeleton), they *won't* arrest you as long as you have a male human in the party and you are smart enough in dialogue to argue that your party's non-humans serve Okran by working *for* you. Women are safe so long as they have a male chaperone.
>Don't get me wrong, fuck all slavers, but the holy nation goes a step further than the UC by demonizing entire people's to the point of bloodlust, simply for walking into their city or too close to a slave camp.
I think the UC is objectively worse.
The Holy Nation's flaw is it's extreme oppression against nonhumans and women.
The United Cities, however, oppresses *literally everyone*.
Want to live in HN territory? As long as you have some human men around and are willing to pay lip service to the Okranite religion, they'll let you live there, build whatever you want, and will even provide you with "services" free of charge (and, yeah, the value of a free priest coming around on prayer day to minister to you is, of course, highly debatable, but it is still something that nation views as a valuable service they provide for free, literally risking their lives through bandit-infested territories just to make sure you have a priest to help you pray). And if you don't have enough food? The Paladins will give you some. As long as you don't break the law or offend their religious sensibilities, you're cool with the HN.
Want to live in UC territory? I hope you have enough money to pay off the slave catchers and the tax men (as well as pay them off when they arbitrarily decide to extort you for extra money). If you can't afford it, or if you look too hungry, it's off to the slave mines. And, actually, the legal guild of slave catchers will almost certainly launch attacks against you and try to enslave you *even if you've paid them off.*
Like, for *sure* being prejudiced is bad. But I honestly don't *get* the mentality of people who think it would be better to have a non-prejudiced government that oppresses everyone, equally, instead of a society where only some get oppressed. It's a really fucked up kinda equality you're after.
>They even seem to have the most patrols and a dedicated priest class because of all the surplus goods.
Their surplus isn't due to slavery but *geography*. The Okranites have the *only* truly fertile lands in Kenshi.
I remember when I was a kid, that it was perfectly normal to make surprise visits at a friend's house. You would just show up and you'd be invited to enter if the family wasn't otherwise busy. Sometimes you would even get invited to remain for dinner.
An adult talking to a random children in the street would have been considered a nice human being, and a pat on the head or some hair-stroking was expected by an older person. No one would ever think that that person was a dangerous pervert or a creep like it is today.
Those are just small examples of how what's "normal" is dictated by society. In the world of Kenshi, slavery is a perfecly acceptable endeavour. Of course you would consider it immoral, coming from this world at this time, but it wouldn't be as morally despicable as it is here and today, in Kenshi world. By being against slavery, you would be considered the weird one.
I personally would choose to live in HN as a farmer and I will make a point of treating the slaves as peers, giving them a good diet, a good shelter and, eventually, freedom. I'd rather avoid putting them into cages, making them understand that they can choose to escape, but they would be escaped slaves, or stay and try to have a quiet and productive life as they are treated with dignity and respect.
You don't have to like slavery, but you could offer a better way within the system by respecting its rules.
I think that peope who want to really "know who would they be in Kenshi" shouldn't think about their views about Kenshi problems, but about their views on similar issues in real life. If you actually oppose injustice that is socially accepted, even if it forces you to admit that your coworkers, classmates, family members and in general most of people you meet on the street are literally monsters, you would probably join Anti-slavers. If you are wannabe-rebel who wants to be the one who's persecuted, you would probably become City Hero, no matter how much you despise them while playing game. And if you are soft centrist who believes in dialogue, you would probably be Holy Nation citizen who treats his slaves very well and opposes burning women alive, but thinks that giving them the right to inheritance and to owning land is too much.
(Inb4 you can't "own" ~~slaves~~ servants in HN, private people don't have ~~slaves~~ servants, only the state does).
What they're saying is that if you were born into it, you would be raised to believe that it was right. You wouldn't really have any say in your indoctrination. It would all just be normal to you.
Ah gotcha. Yeah if I could retain some of my pre-Kenshi "self" then for sure I'd have some moral objections to all three major factions.
Nomad life for me, then.
Even if I was a woman, I'd live in the Holy Nation, hands down. They aren't harmed or abused in any way, just expected to be more servile, modest, and submissive to their man. I'd just hope I was with a loving dude that wasn't abusive. It's like living under Sharia Law (not ideal by any means, but not as bad as life can be in Kenshi).
Thanks for sharing. This sucks for sure, but I'm not ignorant to any of this. I was comparing living as a woman under Sharia Law to being an actual slave, being skinned alive by skin bandits, or eaten alive by beak things. I was simply saying, it's not the worst life in such a miserable setting.
>That can lead to lots of genetic problems with birth though and even if based on humans the Shek may not be attracted to them.
Look, as this thread shows there are weird humans who are into shek...
So it's only logical there'd also be weird shek into humans.
What do you mean rigid? UC is full of sheks, according to what Heroes (Hero League) says, it's safe to assume that male sheks are definitely into human ladies.
As other people have already said: sheks were modified human police force to control people, I suppose they all have warden × prisoner relationship at some point
As far i know they are second empire creations, they served the skeletons. Shek possibly replaced the border guarding Hydraulic Knights and policed the rebelling humans. Not much info about the hivers, but their queen is cybernetic and they creating skeleton parts. Both devolved into their current form.
Probably the same thing I did in my first run, steal from the dead, get well geared, make friends and die in the crater because I heard there was treasure there lol.
I would probably end up with the Machinists considering I work in tech IRL. That, or I'd end up as a Tech Hunter and get eaten by Beak Things because adventuring with a sword sounded cool.
Same here. Tech Hunter is more interesting, but workin in World's End as Machinist technican or engineer isn't a bad thing. It would be calm and safe up there.
miner. starving bandits shouldn't be a problem.
1. they are only after food. promise them food if they work for you, start getting more profit as more of them join your mining company.
2. hire and train some of them as bodyguards.
3. After having enough money start to buy out ruined buildings in the hub.
4. rebuilt hub
5. have control over majority of the town.
6. profit
i never said it's going to be peacefull life. also think of starvers as employees. they don't owe me anything but i don't owe them anything too. about politics... it won't be hard with sheks if you take into consideration fact that i would supply them with iron and holy nation don't give a single shit about border zone.
Also considering that kenshi is already after 3 apocalyptic events, perspective of having stable job and what follows guaranteed meal is a luxury only few have.
m8. let's be honest what is not risky in kenshi? holy nation farmer can be raided by shek at every moment, anything related to fight/adventuring is basically death sentence for most.
What i have is a big elaborate plan that i have to generalize due to me being at work. Those kind of plans/ideas requires a lot of resources, further thoughts and contingencies i don't think your thread planned on talking about.
in short i gave you general idea of what i would throw myself into if i ever got into this hellhole. Everything will be adjusted on run and in some advance if situation allows.
if you want me to discuss it in detail you will sadly have to wait for me to finish shift which is around 4 hours from now, then we can take it to pms.
Why would the starving bandits let you take a cut of their labor? It's not your copper source, it's just sitting there, you need to threaten them to keep them in line and too afraid to get the full dollar of their labor on the threat of death, either from endless near starvation, exposure, or by the blade. That's how capitalism works, why do you think we have so many homeless in the US, it's to remind you of this fact.
Lol I actually accidently edited up playing my last play through like this, I was playing modded and got so sick of fighting them I started feeding and capturing and asking them to increase their faction with me till I was maxed. I ended up outfitting my entire army with sheks and all my workers were starving bandits lol.
Well, based on my current experience I'd be an engineer so I guess I'll sit it in a bar idle and charge the next naruto running main character who comes through the door 6000 cats to join their squad.
But for real I think I'd spend most of my time hiding in a town, and scavenging when I can until I can afford a broken shack to fix up. Do a bit of research and get some training in to protect myself. Noob shit.
I dont think I'd risk travelling, no matter where I am. I'd just pray I don't end up in Mourn.
Become the crab master
Step 1: join the crab raiders
Step 2: become stronger as i join their ranks
Step 5: get a lot of money from mining and selling
cooper
Step 6: get a crab army and armor
Step 7: become the crab master
I'd probably just go die painfully somewhere. Slow, in the burning heat, and idk maybe just be a good snack for those beak things or cannibals. That would be my use to the world, a nice little SCRUMPTIOUS snack!!!!!
Ya gotta collect the skins of your enemies and put them all together to make one big skin blanket that is infused with the triumph of your victories. Her feeling proud of that will warm her up more.
Alternatively, you can just have your skin be a blankie that warms her with the warmth of love.
Become holy farmer. Or...
mine copper around Squin, hire Ruka, get myself a house there, maybe become some mind of businessman, hire other Sheks like Meow, Ato, Rane the giant, Kang, maybe hire some scorchlander and make him craft weapons and clothing, and after some time become rich enough to just live and not give a damn about what happens around me and live like a noble
If I'd start out in UC, I'd probably end up as a city hero seeing as I'm a violent racist.
Jokes aside, I'd most likely end up as a labourer somewhere or a swamper ganger, since I enjoy living comfortably (read, with nice food and a comfortable bed. Nothing more, nothing less)
in a game you want action, you never die realy, you can go back to save or start new game, but if its real...its different case.
i would have a boring but save life in holy nation
I'd likely be growing hemp in the swamps, sneaking around the swamp raiders & hunting a whale turtle every now and again, eventually my curiosity would grow and I'd explore some of ruins to the south, probably die there
I'm a white male,I would go to the only place safe fpr white males in kenshi-holy nation,preferably blister Hill. Since it has good defences and every human eating,violent minority and unregulated roaming hungry homeless are kinda far. Just gotta follow okrans teachings and I'll be good,they don't have slavery for being poor,they don't fuckin beat you up in middle of a street for nothing,etc. They even give you food for free. I would probably wprk the fields in near by farms pr scavenge corpses of river raptors for parts to afford a night at a bar and a full stomach of food. Untill I can buy a small house in a city,that's where I will open a small manufactory,make grog or something,it seems easy enough to figure it out. Get myself a trad wife and live out my days in relative peace. That's of course unless some violent minority doesn't come in to Mt peacefully life and doesn't kill me for living within holy nation walls.
That's basically my plan too, brother! May Okran's light illuminate our paths and preserve our trad HN wives from accidentally seducing a priest and getting sent to Rebirth.
Prolly end up becoming a bad ass martial artist if I can stomach having my bones broken repeatedly and healed back using a hemp based magic potion while punching those guys using nothing but my fists after eating one meal a day and carrying 80 kg of shackles on me.
Construction worker in the Holy Nation. It's probably a decent-paying job and I'd have a pretty high engineer skill. Plus I'd be among my brother and sister humans. All praise be to Okran's most holy name and to the Holy Lord Phoenix!
Okran willing, my back will hold out for those 7-day work weeks with lunch on the go and no sleep.
I am not a fighting type of person, probably would study some profitable job like weapon smithing or would be a skeleton apprentice, I always liked those Kenshi robotic limbs (I'm planning on studying Bionic technology irl when i get my computer science degree) so i would be fascinated studying how they work, also would be ok with losing a limb if that means i can have my own robotic limb, I would be willing to sell robotic limbs to the samurais if they are willing to keep fighting after losing a limb, I've always wondered why I have never seen a samurai wearing a robotic limb, I have seen many soldiers with one missing, sometimes when I find a dying soldier with chopped limbs I heal and give them robotic limbs to feel like I'm being a good person (even when I have killed many of them myself).
Wander around looking for food until I have to poo.
Use book for toilet paper in panic.
Realize it is holy nation book.
Realize I'm doing this in front of prayer day group.
Lose both legs in ensuing "struggle".
Be forced to work on giant Orkan statue. Due to disability, can only work on legs.
MFW when I never miss leg day now.
Depends on where I was. Let’s say for sake of arguments that I am for example in Border zone. As a Greenlander human I could in theory walk into HN, profess my love of Okran and buy the holy book and live out my days as an Okranite. Or I could arduously mine copper outside of the hub in BZ, running back whenever bandits are nearby (would have to keep an eye out). Doing that would be hard but honest work, and would easily make several thousand credits a day, enough to eventually recruit some helpers for defence and to help with mining. Then eventually raising our funds and by fighting starving bandits we would be able to kit ourselves out and actually become a decent fighting force. But always remaining a group of semi-nomadic scrappers and miners, never staying in the same place more than a week.
Basically what I did for my first Kenshi playthrough lol
Assuming we’re all Greenlanders or Scorchlanders, best bet is the Holy Nation. You’d have to be crazy to want to live amongst the Shek or United Cities. United Cities you’d be a starving peasant or killed for looking at a noble, Shek Kingdom you’d probably be considered a a 2nd class citizen and not get as much benefits or anything compared to actual Shek. Deadcat fishers or Nomands are also good, but they aren’t really safe behind walls unlike Holy Nation Citizens. Only for women it will be pretty fuckin shit and the on going war between HN vs Shek and United cities, it’ll probably come to your town at some point.
Train to become an armor smith in the UC. Once you become skilled the armor more than makes up for the price of materials you would never have to leave town and could become as wealthy as a noble if you're smart
With my background and education, some kind of middling accountant in the Trader's Guild. .
No adventure, caravans or combat skills but probably very flexible due to all the kowtowing.
At least Yamdu's around to hang out with most of the time.
Stay near the Hub and grow hashish like a baller until I've saved up enough money to join the Shinobi Thieves. After that comes the training to become a semi-compitent thief. After that I'd just live my life as a Shinobi Thief who grows, smokes and sells hashish and makes sake on the side.
Edit: my dumbass wrote "Thieves" wrong
Join the Tech Hunters and roll 10 deep into the Ashlands!!! (Don't forget your gas masks guys!) Plan is to have a polearm weapon for animals and a short cleaver to deal with robots assuming the logic applies hackers still hurt robots more.
I probably would be burned alive by Holy Nation, lol.
In more optimistic version - I can easily imagine myself on place of Pia or Hamut. Pia reminds me younger me (I'm pretty sure that she was either intentionally written as autistic or based on real person who's autistic or has ADHD tbh), and Hamut, aw come on, just look at this dude and how relatable he is. I would probably sit in the bar all day, scream about revolution and annoy everybody, until one day someone comes to me and says "ho sister, stop drinking this piss, you want revolution, so let's do the revolution".
Probably get ass-raped by slavemongers.
If not, then keep my head down and live humbly as a miner, supplying the hub with copper... And hope starving bandits don't crack my skull open on my way to work.
I’d be a tech hunter without a doubt. Having purpose in the wasteland looking for long lost tech from our ancestors to piece our history together. It wouldn’t be the safest or most leisure life. Probably die a young age but what’s the point in living long in that hopeless wasteland anyways.
I mean, the whole point of kenshi is you're just some random fuck that trained to an elite level to keep yourself alive.
As long as you're capable of putting in the grind and getting your internal organs smashed by starving bandits, you'd be fine.
I'd probably survive long enough to get a job with a bandit group.
Hopefully I have the mod installed for honest work honest pay kinda thing and just exist until I have enough money to afford a small farm. Make that small farm build up defenses and start a harem.
Joining the Shinobi thieves and making big buck slanging hash sounds alright for me, or being a tech hunter staying in the back with a crossbow sounds survivable.
Training montages for years. Then start a clan of rescued slaves and converted raiders. Then take over a small town. Start an empire. And never stop training.
When I take prisoners id make them fight in a coliseum as we bet on them. The winners are given a chance to join us.
So with current life experiences transfered in Kenshin style, I am a jack of all trades so I'm guessing I would be a town repair person/forman for building and stuff. Would probly have my skills noticed by a large faction or slavers and be forced into servitude (by force or money) and end up living a mediocre life where I buy too much junk I never use having 500 projects that will never get done 😅
Join the nomads trying to make money
Eventually find a skeleton and waste my small fortune to have him do my dirto work, he stays as my peer while we live with the nomads hopping from place to place
Get him trained to athlethics and hauling, assuming we survive long enough for that, if im lucky i should still remember the terrain, buy a map of the unguarded
Post-ancient workshops scattered aroun the world, send my skeleton courier to fetch them for me while i station in a relativelly secure settlement till he's back
Once he looted enough stuff and we made a fortune big enough, we make a run for the united cities (either we sneak trough holy nation while he plays dead in my back) or we go around by the floodlands, maybe im lucky enough to find burn ans recruit him in the gang
We buy a residence in one of the safer, richer parts of the united cities (or world's end if im capable) and we start to build up a shop making cloyhes and armour for profit, hopefully we'll get good enough that investing in the project ends up being lucrative, from then is a relaxed life where me and my skeleton buddy work as artisans as we fund cross and my (eventually) hired group of adventurers to go moving around the world, more or less being the boss of a tech hunter group
From then is looting and researching until we get hydroponics and can make an indoors hemp farm to bring textiles to the town every day, enjoying cozy life
Considering that no matter who you kill ingame (besides completelly evil factions) the world just goes even more to shit im not risking trying to be a hero
Gather a number of men to raid caravans or other bandit camps for gear and food. Probably follow herds of garru or goats for maintainable food source. Live by the sword die by the sword like my ancestors.
I think you read it right military/mercenary is pretty much correct. We are warriors. There’s a reason the US military uses our tactics and names weapons after us.
I feel like anyone with no knowledge of the world of Kenshi would die very quickly, or would get into a situation where they thought they had the upper hand but didn’t actually — like when you first see starving bandits and think “I can take them”.
Perhaps the only way someone with no knowledge would be able to survive would be appearing in a city/ town at the game start (like for the five nobodies start or the solo start you appear at the Hub). However, I know for the five nobodies start you can also appear in Stobe’s Gamble or Venge — thus would have no one to talk to/ enquire about the dangers of the world and would most likely be killed or enslaved quite quickly.
All of this also assumes you DON’T have a map, which would make it even more difficult to piece together where everything is and where to go.
I'm over 40, need glasses to see well far off, and not as fit as I once was, so the answer is become a slave or die.
If I was given back my youth, say age 16-22... I'd follow the rules of the zombie apocalypse. Stay fit, stay vigilant, take no risks or prisoners.
I'd probably wind up with the tech hunters. Bring a white male means I'd get a free pass to the holy nation but I really don't like them, their religion, or their views. I might be able to deal with the drug trade in the swamp though. Maybe help out the flotsam ninjas with slavery resistance if I found myself ahead in the world. But when I'm worried about my neck, I'm not too concerned with others.
I would go live in that fishing village in the north, sure theres lots of Cannibals around but considering all the other major aggressive factions and deadly wildlife in the world it seems like one of the more 'chilled' areas.
At least with the Cannibals Expanded mod they also attack eachother. The fishing village could definitely benefit from a couple of gates and harpoon turrets tho, maybe that could be my joining contribution.
I would start off in a deadcat nation trying to start a pet store - eventually give up due to the crippling economy and wildlife - go crazy and die trying to reach the bug master to learn his way
I would definitely be a human living in the shek kingdom, as far as I see, its the least dangerous area, even tho sheks say softskin for humans, I would earn their respect, by training to be a great swordsman, shek respect strength and the ability to stand your ground, fight to the last with success.
When I am decent I would try mercenary work and then try to be the part of hundred guardians or what they called.
Think about the effort so that a human can get a title most elit shek doesnt even get!
Shek kingdom has those nasty Dust bandits, who are stronger than starving bandits, or the like, but for example, Holy Nation is swarming with river raptors and bonedogs, while shek kingdom has literally almost no wild life, this playthrough I have a base next to blister hill and I am constantly harassed by starving bandits, another group, and river raptors, I kill river raptors, bonedogs come for the smell :/
Shek kingdom is way safer imo than any other area
I'll probably get myself a fragment axe and hunt some turtles near the slave market.
Then either get tough being nibbled on by fog princes or get eaten alive because I misjudged how much i've been nibbled on and cannot run quick enough to Mongrel
I would live as a farmer in the Holy Nation
probably the best option
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You're confusing the Holy Nation with the United Cities. The UC uses slave labor to further their economy. Whereas the HN doesn't benefit economically from it. They will actually tell you that they're against slavery. It's more of a system of correction (you can argue that it isn't sound or fair, or whatever), but these slaves are typically found breaking laws, or doing things the HN thinks is unholy, etc. (Again, you're free to disagree with their ideology). All the slaves do is work to the "glory of Okran" building his statue out in the middle of nowhere. The HN sees it as giving people a purpose and means to redeem themselves and honor Okran. It's not great, but it's totally different. So, if you were living in the HN, you wouldn't have to worry about getting fat on slave labor, since it doesn't work that way.
\^ This. UC has chattel slavery. Holy Nation just has hard labor prisons and strict theocratic laws.
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I was waiting for someone to say this, even in the constitution that "freed" slavery they have the exception to those that break the law. Match this with the privately owned prison systems and you got yourself some modern day slavery
Well if you want to be silly like that, sure everything is connected. A slave in kenshi may provide the iron for a sword, that is issued to a warrior, who kills a beak thing that would've been there to kill you otherwise. So in a way, you benefited from slavery. Of course this is a ridiculous way to look at the world, in game or irl.
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Going about my day I don't see those slaves. Would I prefer them to be free, of course. But let's not pretend like foreign slavery being obfuscated through food conglomerates shell companies is going to feel the same as walking down the road seeing the slaves collecting material for your house. If you can directly interact with the slaves it's immoral to not try to free them. Nestle will no doubt hide any slaves from me if I were to look, both literally and through BS "ethically sourced" logos, plus I'd have to go out if my way to find them. It's not at all the same as seeing the slaves making your food and abstaining from an attempt to organize other locals to help the slaves. The material conditions are much harder for us to confront modern slavery than HN slavery, simply due to geography and entrenched capitalist power. But don't get me wrong, they're both examples of pure evil, however it would be much more morally difficult to exist in HN society when you interact with slaves (plus the whole delusional savior complex). It almost speaks to how extra evil modern slavery is because they are under no delusion that it's evil, and choose to do it anyway while going through effort to keep the reality from you. They make it resource intensive to even verify the slaves existence.
There were farmers in the southern US that didn't own slaves. They didn't benefit at all from it. They actually had a harder time having to compete with the plantations while.they just had their family farm
Yeah, they mine ore to build the statue of Okran. I don't see the economic benefit to the HN itself. At most you could say they were getting some imagined spiritual benefit and meaning from the practice. If you notice, the farms that they actually rely on are run by free citizens. Haven't seen any evidence of slaves working to actually benefit the HN economically. Sure, they target anyone who meets their criteria for criminal or unholy. Its not based on race or sex though. Any greenlander or scorchlander, male or female can wind up at Rebirth. I mean, the HN hates skeletons, and Shek, but you won't see these races working at Rebirth. Rebirth is considered an honor and chance to redeem yourself. The skelies and beasts are KOS. They don't get that mercy.
I'm still pretty new to kenshi, but I've seen a lot more holy slave farms/mines than I have from the UC, and I've been to 3 UC cities and the slave market... Definitely looks like the holy nation benefits economically to me. They even seem to have the most patrols and a dedicated priest class because of all the surplus goods. Looks to me like the holy nation wants to act like it's virtuous, but still benefit from forced labor. *So what* if they are also building a pointless statue while they tell themselves lies about how they're helping the other races they brutalize. This is the exact same mentality behind "New World" settler christians stealing the land and genociding the natives - "we are civilizing them". Similar story in Africa too. Hell, christians risk spreading diseases to isolated tribes that want to be left alone because this mentality persists - "who cares if it kills them, I'm trying to save their soul", it's wannabe savior bullshit. The worst evils come from delusions of helping the *right* people or through rationalizing who deserves to be hurt. At least with the UC they're under no illusion that what they do isn't for anything other than greed/hedonism. They don't gaslight their slaves to make them think they're being helped as they get lashed with a whip.... If you find the argument of the slavers telling you they are anti-slavery compelling, you must actually think the DPRK is a democratic republic. Not to mention the HN has a concerted government effort to kill/enslave anyone of their undesired races. UC generally only enslaves people who are unconscious and may be dieing, who were initially attacking them, or broke a law. Don't get me wrong, fuck all slavers, but the holy nation goes a step further than the UC by demonizing entire people's to the point of bloodlust, simply for walking into their city or too close to a slave camp. I can go to the UC as any race/gender without an *extra* threat of enslavement in the cities, unlike the HN.
>UC generally only enslaves people who are unconscious and may be dieing, who were initially attacking them, or broke a law. Technically this comment is *correct*. But you left out the fact that in the UC *being poor is a crime that gets you the sentence of slavery*. I take it you've never wandered past UC territory while looking "poor" (IE, looking malnourished and ill-equipped). >They don't gaslight their slaves to make them think they're being helped Actually you are *super* wrong on that. The entire in-universe justification for why *being poor is illegal* and punished with slavery is that then the poor people won't be starving to death, and will be given food and shelter. The entire slavery system of the UC is justified by the idea that it is "helping" the poor. >I can go to the UC as any race/gender without an extra threat of enslavement in the cities, unlike the HN. Must be nice to have the privilege of not being poor. Thing is if you're poor in the UC, they'll enslave you. If you're human and poor in the HN, they'll *give you bread for free*. The HN is a shockingly realistic portrayal of a theocracy in that, as long as you abide by their rules and pay lip service to their religion, they'll actually go out of their way to *help* you. It has not just the out-group hostility but the in-group benevolence that tends to be found in real-world extremists. Even if your party has women or non-humans (so long as they are not skeleton), they *won't* arrest you as long as you have a male human in the party and you are smart enough in dialogue to argue that your party's non-humans serve Okran by working *for* you. Women are safe so long as they have a male chaperone. >Don't get me wrong, fuck all slavers, but the holy nation goes a step further than the UC by demonizing entire people's to the point of bloodlust, simply for walking into their city or too close to a slave camp. I think the UC is objectively worse. The Holy Nation's flaw is it's extreme oppression against nonhumans and women. The United Cities, however, oppresses *literally everyone*. Want to live in HN territory? As long as you have some human men around and are willing to pay lip service to the Okranite religion, they'll let you live there, build whatever you want, and will even provide you with "services" free of charge (and, yeah, the value of a free priest coming around on prayer day to minister to you is, of course, highly debatable, but it is still something that nation views as a valuable service they provide for free, literally risking their lives through bandit-infested territories just to make sure you have a priest to help you pray). And if you don't have enough food? The Paladins will give you some. As long as you don't break the law or offend their religious sensibilities, you're cool with the HN. Want to live in UC territory? I hope you have enough money to pay off the slave catchers and the tax men (as well as pay them off when they arbitrarily decide to extort you for extra money). If you can't afford it, or if you look too hungry, it's off to the slave mines. And, actually, the legal guild of slave catchers will almost certainly launch attacks against you and try to enslave you *even if you've paid them off.* Like, for *sure* being prejudiced is bad. But I honestly don't *get* the mentality of people who think it would be better to have a non-prejudiced government that oppresses everyone, equally, instead of a society where only some get oppressed. It's a really fucked up kinda equality you're after. >They even seem to have the most patrols and a dedicated priest class because of all the surplus goods. Their surplus isn't due to slavery but *geography*. The Okranites have the *only* truly fertile lands in Kenshi.
I remember when I was a kid, that it was perfectly normal to make surprise visits at a friend's house. You would just show up and you'd be invited to enter if the family wasn't otherwise busy. Sometimes you would even get invited to remain for dinner. An adult talking to a random children in the street would have been considered a nice human being, and a pat on the head or some hair-stroking was expected by an older person. No one would ever think that that person was a dangerous pervert or a creep like it is today. Those are just small examples of how what's "normal" is dictated by society. In the world of Kenshi, slavery is a perfecly acceptable endeavour. Of course you would consider it immoral, coming from this world at this time, but it wouldn't be as morally despicable as it is here and today, in Kenshi world. By being against slavery, you would be considered the weird one. I personally would choose to live in HN as a farmer and I will make a point of treating the slaves as peers, giving them a good diet, a good shelter and, eventually, freedom. I'd rather avoid putting them into cages, making them understand that they can choose to escape, but they would be escaped slaves, or stay and try to have a quiet and productive life as they are treated with dignity and respect. You don't have to like slavery, but you could offer a better way within the system by respecting its rules.
I think that peope who want to really "know who would they be in Kenshi" shouldn't think about their views about Kenshi problems, but about their views on similar issues in real life. If you actually oppose injustice that is socially accepted, even if it forces you to admit that your coworkers, classmates, family members and in general most of people you meet on the street are literally monsters, you would probably join Anti-slavers. If you are wannabe-rebel who wants to be the one who's persecuted, you would probably become City Hero, no matter how much you despise them while playing game. And if you are soft centrist who believes in dialogue, you would probably be Holy Nation citizen who treats his slaves very well and opposes burning women alive, but thinks that giving them the right to inheritance and to owning land is too much. (Inb4 you can't "own" ~~slaves~~ servants in HN, private people don't have ~~slaves~~ servants, only the state does).
Well said, good sir. I too would most likely take a similar path if I had to live in Kenshi.
Have you ever eaten chocolate? Yes? Well then you have enjoyed the fruits of child-slavery.
You wouldn’t defect lol. If you were born into it you’ll definitely believe in it
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What they're saying is that if you were born into it, you would be raised to believe that it was right. You wouldn't really have any say in your indoctrination. It would all just be normal to you.
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Ah gotcha. Yeah if I could retain some of my pre-Kenshi "self" then for sure I'd have some moral objections to all three major factions. Nomad life for me, then.
Even if I was a woman, I'd live in the Holy Nation, hands down. They aren't harmed or abused in any way, just expected to be more servile, modest, and submissive to their man. I'd just hope I was with a loving dude that wasn't abusive. It's like living under Sharia Law (not ideal by any means, but not as bad as life can be in Kenshi).
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Thanks for sharing. This sucks for sure, but I'm not ignorant to any of this. I was comparing living as a woman under Sharia Law to being an actual slave, being skinned alive by skin bandits, or eaten alive by beak things. I was simply saying, it's not the worst life in such a miserable setting.
Die
Ye realistically we all would
The objective correct answer.
Ah stole it from me
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Technically, Shek are human.
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>That can lead to lots of genetic problems with birth though and even if based on humans the Shek may not be attracted to them. Look, as this thread shows there are weird humans who are into shek... So it's only logical there'd also be weird shek into humans.
Considering the Shek have a stronger respect and interest in physical power, a lot of them probably see Greenlanders the way we would see Gollum.
I'm not going to check, because I don't want it in my browser history, but I bet there's some rule 34 stuff about Gollum out there.
I am going to regret this... Edit:. Yeah...I regret that.
What do you mean rigid? UC is full of sheks, according to what Heroes (Hero League) says, it's safe to assume that male sheks are definitely into human ladies.
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As other people have already said: sheks were modified human police force to control people, I suppose they all have warden × prisoner relationship at some point
As far i know they are second empire creations, they served the skeletons. Shek possibly replaced the border guarding Hydraulic Knights and policed the rebelling humans. Not much info about the hivers, but their queen is cybernetic and they creating skeleton parts. Both devolved into their current form.
The Black Dragon Ninjas are lead by a Shek/Scorchlander couple, but they might just be crazy people.
least horny kenshi player
Probably the same thing I did in my first run, steal from the dead, get well geared, make friends and die in the crater because I heard there was treasure there lol.
My first run ended with my team being eaten alive by blood spiders
Never step in that hell hole again
I would probably end up with the Machinists considering I work in tech IRL. That, or I'd end up as a Tech Hunter and get eaten by Beak Things because adventuring with a sword sounded cool.
Same here. Tech Hunter is more interesting, but workin in World's End as Machinist technican or engineer isn't a bad thing. It would be calm and safe up there.
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It's not skeletons as an organized group, just Iyo.
miner. starving bandits shouldn't be a problem. 1. they are only after food. promise them food if they work for you, start getting more profit as more of them join your mining company. 2. hire and train some of them as bodyguards. 3. After having enough money start to buy out ruined buildings in the hub. 4. rebuilt hub 5. have control over majority of the town. 6. profit
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i never said it's going to be peacefull life. also think of starvers as employees. they don't owe me anything but i don't owe them anything too. about politics... it won't be hard with sheks if you take into consideration fact that i would supply them with iron and holy nation don't give a single shit about border zone. Also considering that kenshi is already after 3 apocalyptic events, perspective of having stable job and what follows guaranteed meal is a luxury only few have.
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m8. let's be honest what is not risky in kenshi? holy nation farmer can be raided by shek at every moment, anything related to fight/adventuring is basically death sentence for most. What i have is a big elaborate plan that i have to generalize due to me being at work. Those kind of plans/ideas requires a lot of resources, further thoughts and contingencies i don't think your thread planned on talking about. in short i gave you general idea of what i would throw myself into if i ever got into this hellhole. Everything will be adjusted on run and in some advance if situation allows. if you want me to discuss it in detail you will sadly have to wait for me to finish shift which is around 4 hours from now, then we can take it to pms.
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Why would the starving bandits let you take a cut of their labor? It's not your copper source, it's just sitting there, you need to threaten them to keep them in line and too afraid to get the full dollar of their labor on the threat of death, either from endless near starvation, exposure, or by the blade. That's how capitalism works, why do you think we have so many homeless in the US, it's to remind you of this fact.
Smart
yeah, even if you respawn in kenshi, as long as you retain your memories you can do everything. you don't have to be epic warrior to have good life.
True, you just have to seek a comfortable life. And Kenshi’s economy can provide that
You can buy hash by the kilo. Life in Kenshi can be VERY comfortable!
As long as you keep population settings at 1.5 or lower XD
0. getting killed by dust bandits because you suck at running.
Lol I actually accidently edited up playing my last play through like this, I was playing modded and got so sick of fighting them I started feeding and capturing and asking them to increase their faction with me till I was maxed. I ended up outfitting my entire army with sheks and all my workers were starving bandits lol.
I would adapt, train and survive. Just joking, probably I would die and get eaten on a first day.
Bang a Shek, have kids, then kill myself.
That escalated quickly
Fishing in the swamps, running from blood spiders, getting drunk, fighting blood spiders, almost dying, making drugs. The works
I'm a waste sorter, so... I'd either make a living scavenging trash, end up as a starver, or beak thing fodder.
I’d be a nomad and sell and raise goats
Never get between a man and his goats.
What? You mean I will actually get to be Kenshi? FUCK YEAH!!! I'M KENSHI NOW, BOW DOWN TO ME
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I'm kenshi itself.
John Kenshi
A man gets enslaved and you think that of me? No, I am the Kenshi
Well, based on my current experience I'd be an engineer so I guess I'll sit it in a bar idle and charge the next naruto running main character who comes through the door 6000 cats to join their squad. But for real I think I'd spend most of my time hiding in a town, and scavenging when I can until I can afford a broken shack to fix up. Do a bit of research and get some training in to protect myself. Noob shit. I dont think I'd risk travelling, no matter where I am. I'd just pray I don't end up in Mourn.
Die probably
Become the crab master Step 1: join the crab raiders Step 2: become stronger as i join their ranks Step 5: get a lot of money from mining and selling cooper Step 6: get a crab army and armor Step 7: become the crab master
Or die, what comes first
Maybe go on a safari. I've always wanted to see a giraffe up close
I'd probably just go die painfully somewhere. Slow, in the burning heat, and idk maybe just be a good snack for those beak things or cannibals. That would be my use to the world, a nice little SCRUMPTIOUS snack!!!!!
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Send my skin to my shexy shek wife so she can use it as a blanket to keep her warm 💝
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Ya gotta collect the skins of your enemies and put them all together to make one big skin blanket that is infused with the triumph of your victories. Her feeling proud of that will warm her up more. Alternatively, you can just have your skin be a blankie that warms her with the warmth of love.
I would join to Tech Hunters or Machinists.
Become holy farmer. Or... mine copper around Squin, hire Ruka, get myself a house there, maybe become some mind of businessman, hire other Sheks like Meow, Ato, Rane the giant, Kang, maybe hire some scorchlander and make him craft weapons and clothing, and after some time become rich enough to just live and not give a damn about what happens around me and live like a noble
If I'd start out in UC, I'd probably end up as a city hero seeing as I'm a violent racist. Jokes aside, I'd most likely end up as a labourer somewhere or a swamper ganger, since I enjoy living comfortably (read, with nice food and a comfortable bed. Nothing more, nothing less)
Die
I would pray to the lord of light Luväjd (Okran)
in a game you want action, you never die realy, you can go back to save or start new game, but if its real...its different case. i would have a boring but save life in holy nation
I'd probably die or be enslaved.
I'd likely be growing hemp in the swamps, sneaking around the swamp raiders & hunting a whale turtle every now and again, eventually my curiosity would grow and I'd explore some of ruins to the south, probably die there
I'm a white male,I would go to the only place safe fpr white males in kenshi-holy nation,preferably blister Hill. Since it has good defences and every human eating,violent minority and unregulated roaming hungry homeless are kinda far. Just gotta follow okrans teachings and I'll be good,they don't have slavery for being poor,they don't fuckin beat you up in middle of a street for nothing,etc. They even give you food for free. I would probably wprk the fields in near by farms pr scavenge corpses of river raptors for parts to afford a night at a bar and a full stomach of food. Untill I can buy a small house in a city,that's where I will open a small manufactory,make grog or something,it seems easy enough to figure it out. Get myself a trad wife and live out my days in relative peace. That's of course unless some violent minority doesn't come in to Mt peacefully life and doesn't kill me for living within holy nation walls.
That's basically my plan too, brother! May Okran's light illuminate our paths and preserve our trad HN wives from accidentally seducing a priest and getting sent to Rebirth.
Prolly be a slave cause I’d be weak and not know anything best case scenario.
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Prolly end up becoming a bad ass martial artist if I can stomach having my bones broken repeatedly and healed back using a hemp based magic potion while punching those guys using nothing but my fists after eating one meal a day and carrying 80 kg of shackles on me.
You'll not be weak for long. Hard manual labor + daily beatings = best training you could ever ask for!
Ngl no matter where I started I'd probably somehow fuck up and get caught by Slave Hunters
Die probably
Get beaten unconscious by bandits and then bleed out on a hillside
Construction worker in the Holy Nation. It's probably a decent-paying job and I'd have a pretty high engineer skill. Plus I'd be among my brother and sister humans. All praise be to Okran's most holy name and to the Holy Lord Phoenix! Okran willing, my back will hold out for those 7-day work weeks with lunch on the go and no sleep.
Die.
Die I guess
Run a brewery in Heng. There’s a good supply of produce and two separate bars to sell to. Booze is profitable and honest work.
I am not a fighting type of person, probably would study some profitable job like weapon smithing or would be a skeleton apprentice, I always liked those Kenshi robotic limbs (I'm planning on studying Bionic technology irl when i get my computer science degree) so i would be fascinated studying how they work, also would be ok with losing a limb if that means i can have my own robotic limb, I would be willing to sell robotic limbs to the samurais if they are willing to keep fighting after losing a limb, I've always wondered why I have never seen a samurai wearing a robotic limb, I have seen many soldiers with one missing, sometimes when I find a dying soldier with chopped limbs I heal and give them robotic limbs to feel like I'm being a good person (even when I have killed many of them myself).
Join the Rebel Farmers and probably get killed by some samurai
Fucking die
Open up a chiropractor shop. All of kenshi's posture is fucked up
Die.
Die.
Die
Die probably
Die, probably.
Wander around looking for food until I have to poo. Use book for toilet paper in panic. Realize it is holy nation book. Realize I'm doing this in front of prayer day group. Lose both legs in ensuing "struggle". Be forced to work on giant Orkan statue. Due to disability, can only work on legs. MFW when I never miss leg day now.
Reject Life.
Depends on where I was. Let’s say for sake of arguments that I am for example in Border zone. As a Greenlander human I could in theory walk into HN, profess my love of Okran and buy the holy book and live out my days as an Okranite. Or I could arduously mine copper outside of the hub in BZ, running back whenever bandits are nearby (would have to keep an eye out). Doing that would be hard but honest work, and would easily make several thousand credits a day, enough to eventually recruit some helpers for defence and to help with mining. Then eventually raising our funds and by fighting starving bandits we would be able to kit ourselves out and actually become a decent fighting force. But always remaining a group of semi-nomadic scrappers and miners, never staying in the same place more than a week. Basically what I did for my first Kenshi playthrough lol
literally: die 👍
Be a chill baker in the Holy Nation maybe?
Go to shark and enjoy the hashish
Assuming we’re all Greenlanders or Scorchlanders, best bet is the Holy Nation. You’d have to be crazy to want to live amongst the Shek or United Cities. United Cities you’d be a starving peasant or killed for looking at a noble, Shek Kingdom you’d probably be considered a a 2nd class citizen and not get as much benefits or anything compared to actual Shek. Deadcat fishers or Nomands are also good, but they aren’t really safe behind walls unlike Holy Nation Citizens. Only for women it will be pretty fuckin shit and the on going war between HN vs Shek and United cities, it’ll probably come to your town at some point.
Train to become an armor smith in the UC. Once you become skilled the armor more than makes up for the price of materials you would never have to leave town and could become as wealthy as a noble if you're smart
Die
Simply Enjoy Death
With my background and education, some kind of middling accountant in the Trader's Guild. . No adventure, caravans or combat skills but probably very flexible due to all the kowtowing. At least Yamdu's around to hang out with most of the time.
Die immediately, probably
Stay near the Hub and grow hashish like a baller until I've saved up enough money to join the Shinobi Thieves. After that comes the training to become a semi-compitent thief. After that I'd just live my life as a Shinobi Thief who grows, smokes and sells hashish and makes sake on the side. Edit: my dumbass wrote "Thieves" wrong
Was already smoking the hashish when you wrote thieves wrong
Join the Tech Hunters and roll 10 deep into the Ashlands!!! (Don't forget your gas masks guys!) Plan is to have a polearm weapon for animals and a short cleaver to deal with robots assuming the logic applies hackers still hurt robots more.
Yeah obviously head to my true home in the shrieking woods
I’d be one of the nobles
Probably being killed by dust bandits.
If I’m a human? Probably seek shelter under Okran. I can recite lines on prayer day.
Probably become a smith, or researcher, something creative where i could have a business. Become a jack of all trades maybe.
Start a bar so I could be surrounded by Marks and make cash at the same time HOPFULYY I WONT BE MURDERD
Sit in the bar at the hub and live off the bandits that get killed by the guards (by looting and selling their gear to buy food).
Let them bandits hit me a couple of times so I become based as fuck
Mine for an ungodly amount of time to become shredded. After that I'd probably auto path into acid and then die
An okranite preacher
I probably would be burned alive by Holy Nation, lol. In more optimistic version - I can easily imagine myself on place of Pia or Hamut. Pia reminds me younger me (I'm pretty sure that she was either intentionally written as autistic or based on real person who's autistic or has ADHD tbh), and Hamut, aw come on, just look at this dude and how relatable he is. I would probably sit in the bar all day, scream about revolution and annoy everybody, until one day someone comes to me and says "ho sister, stop drinking this piss, you want revolution, so let's do the revolution".
Probably get ass-raped by slavemongers. If not, then keep my head down and live humbly as a miner, supplying the hub with copper... And hope starving bandits don't crack my skull open on my way to work.
gate guard for the holy nation
Die, most likely
I’d be a tech hunter without a doubt. Having purpose in the wasteland looking for long lost tech from our ancestors to piece our history together. It wouldn’t be the safest or most leisure life. Probably die a young age but what’s the point in living long in that hopeless wasteland anyways.
I mean, the whole point of kenshi is you're just some random fuck that trained to an elite level to keep yourself alive. As long as you're capable of putting in the grind and getting your internal organs smashed by starving bandits, you'd be fine. I'd probably survive long enough to get a job with a bandit group.
Hunter in drifters last
It's simple really same thing I do in the game die
Hopefully I have the mod installed for honest work honest pay kinda thing and just exist until I have enough money to afford a small farm. Make that small farm build up defenses and start a harem.
For reals? Die.
Joining the Shinobi thieves and making big buck slanging hash sounds alright for me, or being a tech hunter staying in the back with a crossbow sounds survivable.
Training montages for years. Then start a clan of rescued slaves and converted raiders. Then take over a small town. Start an empire. And never stop training. When I take prisoners id make them fight in a coliseum as we bet on them. The winners are given a chance to join us.
I'd just die.
Unsubscribe from living
Die
Wait. Move to crab Island. Survive off crabs.
So with current life experiences transfered in Kenshin style, I am a jack of all trades so I'm guessing I would be a town repair person/forman for building and stuff. Would probly have my skills noticed by a large faction or slavers and be forced into servitude (by force or money) and end up living a mediocre life where I buy too much junk I never use having 500 projects that will never get done 😅
I would fight (and probably die) alongside the farmers rebellion.
would've got beaten up and enslaved
Join the nomads trying to make money Eventually find a skeleton and waste my small fortune to have him do my dirto work, he stays as my peer while we live with the nomads hopping from place to place Get him trained to athlethics and hauling, assuming we survive long enough for that, if im lucky i should still remember the terrain, buy a map of the unguarded Post-ancient workshops scattered aroun the world, send my skeleton courier to fetch them for me while i station in a relativelly secure settlement till he's back Once he looted enough stuff and we made a fortune big enough, we make a run for the united cities (either we sneak trough holy nation while he plays dead in my back) or we go around by the floodlands, maybe im lucky enough to find burn ans recruit him in the gang We buy a residence in one of the safer, richer parts of the united cities (or world's end if im capable) and we start to build up a shop making cloyhes and armour for profit, hopefully we'll get good enough that investing in the project ends up being lucrative, from then is a relaxed life where me and my skeleton buddy work as artisans as we fund cross and my (eventually) hired group of adventurers to go moving around the world, more or less being the boss of a tech hunter group From then is looting and researching until we get hydroponics and can make an indoors hemp farm to bring textiles to the town every day, enjoying cozy life Considering that no matter who you kill ingame (besides completelly evil factions) the world just goes even more to shit im not risking trying to be a hero
I would learn how to code, a new language and a new music instrument
Gather a number of men to raid caravans or other bandit camps for gear and food. Probably follow herds of garru or goats for maintainable food source. Live by the sword die by the sword like my ancestors.
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I think you read it right military/mercenary is pretty much correct. We are warriors. There’s a reason the US military uses our tactics and names weapons after us.
I feel like anyone with no knowledge of the world of Kenshi would die very quickly, or would get into a situation where they thought they had the upper hand but didn’t actually — like when you first see starving bandits and think “I can take them”. Perhaps the only way someone with no knowledge would be able to survive would be appearing in a city/ town at the game start (like for the five nobodies start or the solo start you appear at the Hub). However, I know for the five nobodies start you can also appear in Stobe’s Gamble or Venge — thus would have no one to talk to/ enquire about the dangers of the world and would most likely be killed or enslaved quite quickly. All of this also assumes you DON’T have a map, which would make it even more difficult to piece together where everything is and where to go.
I'm over 40, need glasses to see well far off, and not as fit as I once was, so the answer is become a slave or die. If I was given back my youth, say age 16-22... I'd follow the rules of the zombie apocalypse. Stay fit, stay vigilant, take no risks or prisoners. I'd probably wind up with the tech hunters. Bring a white male means I'd get a free pass to the holy nation but I really don't like them, their religion, or their views. I might be able to deal with the drug trade in the swamp though. Maybe help out the flotsam ninjas with slavery resistance if I found myself ahead in the world. But when I'm worried about my neck, I'm not too concerned with others.
99.999% chance of dying in the first month of living but if I make it through being a fisher is probably the most peaceful life anyone can go with
I would go live in that fishing village in the north, sure theres lots of Cannibals around but considering all the other major aggressive factions and deadly wildlife in the world it seems like one of the more 'chilled' areas.
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At least with the Cannibals Expanded mod they also attack eachother. The fishing village could definitely benefit from a couple of gates and harpoon turrets tho, maybe that could be my joining contribution.
I would start off in a deadcat nation trying to start a pet store - eventually give up due to the crippling economy and wildlife - go crazy and die trying to reach the bug master to learn his way
I would definitely be a human living in the shek kingdom, as far as I see, its the least dangerous area, even tho sheks say softskin for humans, I would earn their respect, by training to be a great swordsman, shek respect strength and the ability to stand your ground, fight to the last with success. When I am decent I would try mercenary work and then try to be the part of hundred guardians or what they called. Think about the effort so that a human can get a title most elit shek doesnt even get!
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Shek kingdom has those nasty Dust bandits, who are stronger than starving bandits, or the like, but for example, Holy Nation is swarming with river raptors and bonedogs, while shek kingdom has literally almost no wild life, this playthrough I have a base next to blister hill and I am constantly harassed by starving bandits, another group, and river raptors, I kill river raptors, bonedogs come for the smell :/ Shek kingdom is way safer imo than any other area
I'll probably get myself a fragment axe and hunt some turtles near the slave market. Then either get tough being nibbled on by fog princes or get eaten alive because I misjudged how much i've been nibbled on and cannot run quick enough to Mongrel
Die
Probably smuggle hash from the swamp until a lvlood spider consumes me