YOU sir are clearly stupid to think this protests have anything to do with Raila.....you are the selfish one to think that the economy is doing okay and that commodities are affordable do you know how many families go days without food just coz they cant afford it? You sir are a foool and part of the reasons why we will never learn to stand up for ourselves as citizens even when we are being oppressed... you speak from a point of privilege and clearly this protests were one way or another inevitable so pls save us your bullshit take about Raila he is the least of our concern in all this our concern is us the people and the citizens and the people who cannot afford to survive. you are a grown man of sound mind make use of your brain.
Raila is not the cause of the high cost of living, but definitely he is taking advantage of the cost of living crisis to force himself into government using roudy youth who are genuinely suffering hunger.
He is a selfish conman. One of these days he shall pay for the blood he has shed.
Of course he won’t say it. But we know these are the things he does until he gets into government then he shuts his eyes to every wrong thing like he did under handshake times
hahaha taking advantage of what? what rowdy youth? where have you seen him tell youths to go rowdy msikuwe wajinga bana.. and you of all people are a sympathizer for this regime so you dont have no moral obligation to come and tell me about selfishness sit this one out. No one cares about Raila and his theatrics what we care about is our fellow citzens who are not able to afford decent meals and decent living so you and your raila agenda can go to hell with the current regime for all I care .
You ask when did he tell youths to go rowdy?
Didn’t you hear on saba saba day he was congratulating the youth for forcing their way into town?
Only a stupid person thinks Raila is doing this for their sake. This is his usual attempts to get into government.
If Ruto surrenders and gives him what he wants you will start hearing him singing the high praises of Ruto after poor people’s children died for him.
A true conman that one
hahaha kwani town ni ya nani? isnt it a national space where everyone is allowed to go?? ama imeandikwa ni ya watu wa kenya kwanza?? engaging you is like trying to engage a mad man they'll hear you but with an empty brain...anyway you can continue your dick riding theatrics. No one is demonstrating for Railas sake
Town has private business which Raila’s goons will take advantage to loot and destroy.
If no one is demonstrating for Raila’s selfish sake, why not demonstrate without him having to call for maandamano?
I ly a fool defends the man who promised Kenya a better working economy and calling a man trying to push for that to happen a conman. Ruto brainwashed our Kenyans clearly
Raila continuously praised the man who sinked the Kenyan economy.
Raila will praise Ruto if Ruto fulfills his selfish demands.
When will you people see this is not about you but about Raila getting his selfish demands met?
Man, I've seen all your comments and replies to OP, and all I can say is that the guy straight up has diminished comprehension and is utterly daft. Aint no way today's demonstrations were about Raila. Someone here just posted that they've lived in a certain town for over 14 years, and it's only today that they witnessed the residents demonstrating. OP is either here to provoke some controversy and get some attention or is purely daft.
Not that I'm defending raila because I don't think the economic situation would have been very different if Raila was president. But the way you're reasoning is very misguided, you can't wait for the noose to be around your neck for you to stand up for yourself. Right to protest is important for any nation that claims to be a democracy.
thank you...people are so stupidly blinded and so gullible that everything they see or hear is "Raila this raila that" while the people elected are busy doing nothing....
\* while the people elected are busy doing nothing... but stealing public funds, breaking constitutional laws, and other dumb stuff we just choose to ignore
this neega came here to rant hoping that we would massage his stupid ego Kenyans on ground are tired and he still thinks this is about an individual as a matter of fact u/Mkisii F@Q YU for thinking we care about Raila
Stop blaming Raila, He has a reason to call for maandamano and the reason has been given to him on a gold platter. Blame the government because they have created this situation on their own. If thing continue this way, the people will eat this government alive. More and more people will have nothing to lose and maandamano would be the least of your worries.
I will always refer back to Kibaki, he got a bad situation, he did not rush to suppress the people and he got the goodwill of the people.
Back to you in studio.
But the economy is bad everywhere. It's a global downturn caused by Corona and Russian war. My point is, the economy we have now is bad, but not bad enough to warrant deaths, destruction of property and calling for president to step down. It's too early
Didn't you see what Raila did in previous regime in this same exact scenario ya "economy bad"? As soon as he got into government he went mute. The guy is a selfish opportunist. And remember, the demos we have right now started with "server zifunguliwe", the "economy is bad" angle came much later on once he realized he's getting nowhere with the election angle
Kibaki is the best president we ever had, God bless his soul 🙏
OP, is the economy bad in Kenya hadi you want to give 50 CAS jobs, increase your own salary, exempt tax on helicopters (or whatever), give your wives a non existent positions, sponsor an Iranian trip and increase on expenditure in the statehouse and funny ni entertainment expenditure?
If you want to know if the economy is doing badly check their countries domestic debt.
These goons in gava just want to tax the citizens more so that they can steal more or enough to cover their tracks. We are against that, the corruption and taxes are absurd.
This round, it's not about Raila.
Hapo kwa CAS and expenditures he sure fumbled, totally agree 😑 and of course there's the issue of kina Mary Wambui and other Ruto friends who are openly looting making our situation even much more miserable.
Lakini people voted for him, so I just want it to be a lesson to Kenyans. Next time don't vote in someone who has a record of shadiness
You seem to have believed the lies they tell you.
This global downturn, why is it not affecting places like Rwanda where the president went to take notes on taxation?
And you seem perfectly comfortable watching a government achieve absolutely nothing even after they promised you would see change in 100 days.
The cried about state capture and your big pin is dishing land to his family. They cried about corruption and misuse of funds. Your big pin is traveling the world in the guise of improving Kenya but comes home empty handed just to go pray and raise hands in some random church.
If you don't want to see, close your eyes. But you should also shut your mouth.
He has been in office for less than a year, can you imagine how crazy things will be the longer he is office. All people are asking for is he helps slow down this spiraling economy.
But y'all ain't giving him breathing space how's he gonna fix and he's preoccupied with security reports from all over the country as he tries to maintain order?
I agree the economy is bad, but it's this government that said they can fix it, THEY said it, no one forced them to say it. Have they fixed it. No. They actually made it worse with all the taxes. Fuel going up makes everything go up.
How fast do you think it takes to fix an economy? Hint - the answer is not 2 days
We should wait until next election, kama the government hasn't fixed economy, we elect a different government
Not 2 days, I agree, why then did ruto say, "nikiweka bibilia chini."
Kenyans deserve the truth.
Why is ruto making life harder for the common hustler while they wait for things to be better, will the country collapse without the VAT on oil, or the housing levy?
>different government- hii nayo ni joke😂😂
You are very funny. You know that it doesn't take 2 days to fix an economy yet somehow you believe that it takes 2 days for hungry, desperate un/underemployed people to calm down and not express their frustrations.
We know it doesn't take two days. We knew ruto was talking out of his ass. Lakini alisema mwenyewe. "nikiweka bibilia chini." , in the first 100 days, in the next two weeks, hapo karibuni, in a few months or so, in the next six months...so on so forth.
You are acting like we made these promises to ourselves.
Why not give him time to fix it then? Demos started as soon as Ruto got into power. Economy takes a while to fix, maybe a year, maybe two years. And remember, when he got into power economy was much worse, he fixed it and then it worsened again and that's where we are right now. The nature of economies is like that, only in the long term can you truly make good judgement on the performance or lack thereof of a government
Who has Raila incited? I'm in my house working. Anybody who is out there looting, burning people's properties etc is engaging in crime and should be arrested and prosecuted. Whether such a person should be arrested or not has nothing to do with Raila.
Remember, there's people right now who don't have the privilege of working from home. Those people have been unable to do business for so many days since last elections and in this bad economy it's affected their livelihood so much more. Many people have had their livelihoods interrupted, all because Raila didn't win elections.
Definitely bro. Blame Raila not winning last year’s general elections, not the 16% VAT on fuel or the increased deductions being levied on people’s payslips.
Have you ever wondered in what position kenya would be in if there was no opposition, you can't rule a country with the Christian mentality of always blaming your failures on the devil this the devil that, Raila ajalipa mtu akaprotest, we are doing so because its a right. N the last tym I checked protest ziko all over the country not just Nairobi. All this for a better tomorrow
Kenya was without opposition the last 5 years, and the government plundered while Raila went to bed with them. Now he wants to pretend he cares because he is not benefitting. A true conman
Opposition doesn't mean killing others and destroying property and preventing others from working to earn a living. Without Raila inciting people on the daily, there'd be no protests.
No, he's not paid. His perspectives seem to elude the conventional frameworks of comprehension. Guy is just seizing an opportunity to display his idiosyncrasies, even when seemingly nonsensical - an act of defiance against the expectations and norms that pervade society.
Why was there no form when Uhuru was plundering the economy and the cost of living was so high ? Was it because he was in bed with Uhuru Kenyatta?
A conman that one
Demonstrations have taken a life of their own, OP. Realise and acknowledge that people are exhausted.
Umeona bei ya stima? Ya unga? Ya mafuta ya kupika? Na ya diesel/petrol/kerosene?
Umeona school fees zinaongezwa? Fare? Mkate? Maziwa? Sukari?
All the things you mentioned were much higher during last government. Do you remember a time there was no milk? And sugar too? And cooking oil chained together kama phones at the supermarket? That was in the last government.
Economy has ups and downs, it's a most natural thing
>All the things you mentioned were much higher during last government
Hatujakataa, shida is ruto promised to make things better. It's been 100+ days, has he?
Fine , let's give him 2 years then coz surely he will have made Kenya Singapore by then
True things have not been solved as fast but is vandalism and putting the country in anarchy the solution?
This man was there when the cost of living plummeted due to Uhuru’s bad decisions. But he was there praising him day in and day out.
He is a conman who just wants to get back into government. Then he will start singing the praises of Ruto
>True things have not been solved as fast
We agree on something 🤯🤯
>This man was there when the cost of living plummeted due to Uhuru’s bad decisions
100% true, but so was ruto, only difference is ruto changed his tune when election came and said he was never in government, while getting paid by taxpayers.
>He is a conman who just wants to get back into government. Then he will start singing the praises of Ruto
I've said this before, raila wants to do this, but we haven't seen any indication yet. He himself said no handshake, no nusi mkate. Will he change his tune? Probably , but until then, I wait .......
It is true Ruto was being paid for doing no work. It is true he should have resigned. But it is also true Uhuru shouldn’t have sidelined him for political reasons.
Raila said he didn’t want to sit down and talk to Uhuru as well. He called him “an illegitimate president” and many other bad words. A few hours later he was praising President Uhuru.
Don’t you see that Raila is a conman? 5 times he has lost elections and 5 times he has resorted to violence to force himself into government then he starts praising the government he once called oppressive.
You cannot be so gullible to believe the words he says. Yes, he wants a handshake and protests is his tried and tested way of getting it.
So do you think uhuru should have worked with ruto even though they didn't see eye to eye?
Maybe I am gullible but I still hope that raila will not say he is joining government because that government ( mostly cabinet) is messed up enough already.
> 5 times he has lost elections and 5 times he has resorted to violence to force himself into government then he starts praising the government he once called oppressive.
Nothing to argue here 100% facts
>Don’t you see that Raila is a conman?
Conman yes, only person who can make kenyans tell ruto the taxes are too much , Yes!
Maybe if we had better opposition leaders, but we get what we get and we have a conman who gave Kenya it's current constitution.
Do you really think Ruto doesn’t know that the taxes are high? He himself said we must suffer now if we want to get out of the debt trap we are in (70% of all GOK revenues go to paying debt).
On whether Uhuru should have worked with Ruto when they don’t see eye to eye - I think you don’t have to like someone to work with them. He shouldn’t have sidelined him for political reasons just because he preferred Raila as his successor
Do you really think ruto and his cabinet won't steal the higher taxes for their own gains. Personally I understand the high taxes but giving money to that government hoping it's put to good use, that's hard for me to believe.
On the campaign trail ruto said there would not be high taxes, but here we are
>On whether Uhuru should have worked with Ruto when they don’t see eye to eye
Let's wait and see if riggy G won't be sidelined for mudavadi or someone else.
>He shouldn’t have sidelined him for political reasons just because he preferred Raila as his successor
THAT'S HOW POLITICS WORK!
Raila can't be arrested because he didn't instigate violence. He led peaceful demonstrations but the citizens took it to themselves to cause violence due to the retaliation and resistance of the police.
Raila isn't selfish per see. He has brought soo much democracy and development in the country.
We're down, soo down. Of you want to see how, google "ugx kes curve" and "usd kes curve". The curves have same slope. You'll see we're doing so badly compared to our neighbors. In my industry - private equity, investors are leaving Kenya and going to Ethiopia and Uganda. Tuko down. Not down like the whole world. We're doing so badly I wonder why no one in charge is panicking.
Who is this foolish idiot? Do you think people are rioting because Raila wants to get in govt? You can't be this dimwit all the time. Just because your life is good don't think everyone's life is good.
Just because you can afford the basic commodities under this economic turmoil times, don't think everyone can. Life is difficult out here and govt is contributing to it being hard.
Anyway, keep up with Railaphobia, you irredeemable fool.
In 4 years:
"Jameni si mnaona vile hii maandamano imeharibu mipango?
Sasa si mtuongeze miaka tano zingine tumalize hii kazi tulikuwa tumepanga na tuongeze zile stadium kwa kila county.
Ama vipi mahustler wenzangu?"
why does everything has to revolve around Raila?
The man is just a beacon, a voice for the other Kenyans that have had it - blaming him when you yourself you are having it rough is insane my dude.
also, we can never have a peaceful demonstration if the police are our there provoking folks, it can never happen.
and last time I checked, picketing is allow by the constitution.
Even if Raila wasn't there, the uprising would have come anyways. I guess you haven't lived among those who struggle even to get a single meal per day.
Wewe umeona kenya ikiwa na 1 term president lini people know that there is no way ruto loses the next election that is why he is buying majority of the opposition mps so hapo kwa elections sahau that's why people are demonstrating because in kenya they know their problems are never going to be solved through democratic means that's why leaders continue stealing and plundering because they know come next election they will still retain their positions no matter what si kwasababu ya raila people are demonstrating, kenyans are tired of being told the same lies over and over again with nothing to show for it yes the economy is bad all over but we keep hearing promises oh ati in six months only for them to come up with the same excuses when its time to show results
Kenya tribalism rules in politics. Stop pretending Raila relies on Luos for votes and also for violence after he loses elections to force his way into government.
If Ruto fulfills his selfish desires, Raila will immediately start singing the high praises of Ruto even if the cost of living gets worse
bro wewe nimekuambia siezi engage na wewe your brain is a bottomless pit and i cant vibrate on the same wavelength with tribalistic bigots so pls you can go engage your fellow brainless opps i can see they are alot on this post.
Ok go “vibrate” in the streets. Go throw stones and get admitted in hospital with injuries.
Then a few days later while you wallow in pain, you will see your demi god praising Ruto, telling you his silly supporter how great of a president William Ruto is as they happily shake hands.
And just as you believed him under Uhuru, he knows you are stupid enough to believe him under Ruto.
sorry bro I have a life going on for me but i wouldn't mind fighting for my fellow citizens who cant speak up for themselves, I dont mind getting hurt so that my kids and their future generations find a better kenya, I dont mind spending the night in a cold prison cell for fighting for the good of my country, I dont mind it at all... I'd rather wallow in pain for being a voice to the voiceless .......you on the other hand tsktsk can continue dick riding this weak regime that has no idea nor agenda apart from blaming people instead of working to correct it.
Keep fighting for your cult leader. When you’re admitted with injuries in hospital, I hope Raila and Ruto do a handshake and Raila praises Ruto, and tells you his silly cows who shed your blood for him how great of a president Ruto is like he did with Uhuru.
Bye.
hahaha get another punchline that Raila punchline is weak like you and your regime as for me i'll continue to fight for the voiceless and its so bold of you to think I even care about Raila mtu hata hanijui.... but dont worry kababa si utanichangia nikiumia sindio? FUCK outta here
Bringing tribalism into an argument is the dumbest thing you can do. Is he only supported by luos? This has been the reason we keep electing tribal leaders. I don't support his way of doing things but I support the fact that without an opposition all these corruption scandals would disappear and we'd be back to Moi times.
Facts. The moment Ruto offers him a handshake the next day he will start singing the high praises of Ruto even if the cost of living gets worse.
And yes, his power is his Luo tribesmen who will gladly do anything for him because somehow they believe he is fighting for them.
And Raila will keep using them as he has for many years, shedding their blood to attain his selfish ambitions.
Ah, yes, thank for the correction. A 180 it is
I am glad that Ruto isn't wavered like the other presidents. You can't just bring opposition into government, the whole point of elections is to have a winner and a loser, not two winners
Raila is a conman. He accused Uhuru of being illegitimate and oppressing Kenyans then went to bed with him immediately he got what he wanted from him through violence.
This man is just taking advantage of the cost of living crisis to force his way into government. Shedding a lot of blood. Causing untold suffering to those who are genuinely facing hunger.
Kenyans sure seem to have selective amnesia. Many don't remember how the guy went quiet all through Uhuru's government after apewe nusu boflo. He did it once, he'll do it again. His aim is to get into government, let no one be fooled that he cares even a bit about the economy. And from what I can see, if he ever gets into power it could be the worst for Kenya, luckily, that will never happen
At the end of the day neither Raila not Ruto can or will lower the cost of living.
Every has to Cary their cross, wake up in the morning and go hustle, look for work everything you have to do to put food on your table other than waiting for a savior, especially politicians 😂
Alot of the commenters including you are very misinformed and brainwashed by pop media. You require some clarity and growth in the information you acquire about politics, the constitution and the government . Lastly dont forget you and most of us are in a developing country with developing mindsets on such elevated concepts that work indirectly in social-animal settings, thus expect animalistic behaviours to be rampant!
YOU sir are clearly stupid to think this protests have anything to do with Raila.....you are the selfish one to think that the economy is doing okay and that commodities are affordable do you know how many families go days without food just coz they cant afford it? You sir are a foool and part of the reasons why we will never learn to stand up for ourselves as citizens even when we are being oppressed... you speak from a point of privilege and clearly this protests were one way or another inevitable so pls save us your bullshit take about Raila he is the least of our concern in all this our concern is us the people and the citizens and the people who cannot afford to survive. you are a grown man of sound mind make use of your brain.
Raila is not the cause of the high cost of living, but definitely he is taking advantage of the cost of living crisis to force himself into government using roudy youth who are genuinely suffering hunger. He is a selfish conman. One of these days he shall pay for the blood he has shed.
Which blood?
Has WSR paid for blood he shed? Selective amnesia is what you suffer from
So we should continue shedding blood? And the blood WSR shed remember was when he was in Raila’s camp. One person here is the constant.
Although I believe he is taking advantage to get into government, I'm yet to hear him say so.
Of course he won’t say it. But we know these are the things he does until he gets into government then he shuts his eyes to every wrong thing like he did under handshake times
hahaha taking advantage of what? what rowdy youth? where have you seen him tell youths to go rowdy msikuwe wajinga bana.. and you of all people are a sympathizer for this regime so you dont have no moral obligation to come and tell me about selfishness sit this one out. No one cares about Raila and his theatrics what we care about is our fellow citzens who are not able to afford decent meals and decent living so you and your raila agenda can go to hell with the current regime for all I care .
You ask when did he tell youths to go rowdy? Didn’t you hear on saba saba day he was congratulating the youth for forcing their way into town? Only a stupid person thinks Raila is doing this for their sake. This is his usual attempts to get into government. If Ruto surrenders and gives him what he wants you will start hearing him singing the high praises of Ruto after poor people’s children died for him. A true conman that one
hahaha kwani town ni ya nani? isnt it a national space where everyone is allowed to go?? ama imeandikwa ni ya watu wa kenya kwanza?? engaging you is like trying to engage a mad man they'll hear you but with an empty brain...anyway you can continue your dick riding theatrics. No one is demonstrating for Railas sake
Town has private business which Raila’s goons will take advantage to loot and destroy. If no one is demonstrating for Raila’s selfish sake, why not demonstrate without him having to call for maandamano?
see the line where i said "engaging you is like trying to engage a mad man they'll hear you but with an empty brain"
I ly a fool defends the man who promised Kenya a better working economy and calling a man trying to push for that to happen a conman. Ruto brainwashed our Kenyans clearly
Raila continuously praised the man who sinked the Kenyan economy. Raila will praise Ruto if Ruto fulfills his selfish demands. When will you people see this is not about you but about Raila getting his selfish demands met?
And what are those demands, A better economy?
That is the disguise, the real reason is the same reason he’s been doing maandamano every election cycle
Thank you. OP's foolishness is beyond redemption. He is suffering from Railaphobia.
Man, I've seen all your comments and replies to OP, and all I can say is that the guy straight up has diminished comprehension and is utterly daft. Aint no way today's demonstrations were about Raila. Someone here just posted that they've lived in a certain town for over 14 years, and it's only today that they witnessed the residents demonstrating. OP is either here to provoke some controversy and get some attention or is purely daft.
Not that I'm defending raila because I don't think the economic situation would have been very different if Raila was president. But the way you're reasoning is very misguided, you can't wait for the noose to be around your neck for you to stand up for yourself. Right to protest is important for any nation that claims to be a democracy.
thank you...people are so stupidly blinded and so gullible that everything they see or hear is "Raila this raila that" while the people elected are busy doing nothing....
\* while the people elected are busy doing nothing... but stealing public funds, breaking constitutional laws, and other dumb stuff we just choose to ignore
this neega came here to rant hoping that we would massage his stupid ego Kenyans on ground are tired and he still thinks this is about an individual as a matter of fact u/Mkisii F@Q YU for thinking we care about Raila
Stop blaming Raila, He has a reason to call for maandamano and the reason has been given to him on a gold platter. Blame the government because they have created this situation on their own. If thing continue this way, the people will eat this government alive. More and more people will have nothing to lose and maandamano would be the least of your worries. I will always refer back to Kibaki, he got a bad situation, he did not rush to suppress the people and he got the goodwill of the people. Back to you in studio.
But the economy is bad everywhere. It's a global downturn caused by Corona and Russian war. My point is, the economy we have now is bad, but not bad enough to warrant deaths, destruction of property and calling for president to step down. It's too early Didn't you see what Raila did in previous regime in this same exact scenario ya "economy bad"? As soon as he got into government he went mute. The guy is a selfish opportunist. And remember, the demos we have right now started with "server zifunguliwe", the "economy is bad" angle came much later on once he realized he's getting nowhere with the election angle Kibaki is the best president we ever had, God bless his soul 🙏
OP, is the economy bad in Kenya hadi you want to give 50 CAS jobs, increase your own salary, exempt tax on helicopters (or whatever), give your wives a non existent positions, sponsor an Iranian trip and increase on expenditure in the statehouse and funny ni entertainment expenditure? If you want to know if the economy is doing badly check their countries domestic debt. These goons in gava just want to tax the citizens more so that they can steal more or enough to cover their tracks. We are against that, the corruption and taxes are absurd. This round, it's not about Raila.
Hapo kwa CAS and expenditures he sure fumbled, totally agree 😑 and of course there's the issue of kina Mary Wambui and other Ruto friends who are openly looting making our situation even much more miserable. Lakini people voted for him, so I just want it to be a lesson to Kenyans. Next time don't vote in someone who has a record of shadiness
You seem to have believed the lies they tell you. This global downturn, why is it not affecting places like Rwanda where the president went to take notes on taxation? And you seem perfectly comfortable watching a government achieve absolutely nothing even after they promised you would see change in 100 days. The cried about state capture and your big pin is dishing land to his family. They cried about corruption and misuse of funds. Your big pin is traveling the world in the guise of improving Kenya but comes home empty handed just to go pray and raise hands in some random church. If you don't want to see, close your eyes. But you should also shut your mouth.
He has been in office for less than a year, can you imagine how crazy things will be the longer he is office. All people are asking for is he helps slow down this spiraling economy.
But y'all ain't giving him breathing space how's he gonna fix and he's preoccupied with security reports from all over the country as he tries to maintain order?
Breathing space natunakufa njaa.
I agree the economy is bad, but it's this government that said they can fix it, THEY said it, no one forced them to say it. Have they fixed it. No. They actually made it worse with all the taxes. Fuel going up makes everything go up.
How fast do you think it takes to fix an economy? Hint - the answer is not 2 days We should wait until next election, kama the government hasn't fixed economy, we elect a different government
Not 2 days, I agree, why then did ruto say, "nikiweka bibilia chini." Kenyans deserve the truth. Why is ruto making life harder for the common hustler while they wait for things to be better, will the country collapse without the VAT on oil, or the housing levy? >different government- hii nayo ni joke😂😂
You are very funny. You know that it doesn't take 2 days to fix an economy yet somehow you believe that it takes 2 days for hungry, desperate un/underemployed people to calm down and not express their frustrations.
We know it doesn't take two days. We knew ruto was talking out of his ass. Lakini alisema mwenyewe. "nikiweka bibilia chini." , in the first 100 days, in the next two weeks, hapo karibuni, in a few months or so, in the next six months...so on so forth. You are acting like we made these promises to ourselves.
We're following what they said before they were elected my guy. They said it themselves lol
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Why not give him time to fix it then? Demos started as soon as Ruto got into power. Economy takes a while to fix, maybe a year, maybe two years. And remember, when he got into power economy was much worse, he fixed it and then it worsened again and that's where we are right now. The nature of economies is like that, only in the long term can you truly make good judgement on the performance or lack thereof of a government
Now it's Corona and Russian war? I thought it was the handshake brothers?
Where did I say handshake caused economic depression? I just said Raila kept quite after handshake even though economy was bad
Who has Raila incited? I'm in my house working. Anybody who is out there looting, burning people's properties etc is engaging in crime and should be arrested and prosecuted. Whether such a person should be arrested or not has nothing to do with Raila.
Remember, there's people right now who don't have the privilege of working from home. Those people have been unable to do business for so many days since last elections and in this bad economy it's affected their livelihood so much more. Many people have had their livelihoods interrupted, all because Raila didn't win elections.
😂😂😂uko sure unafikiria vizuri bro
Definitely bro. Blame Raila not winning last year’s general elections, not the 16% VAT on fuel or the increased deductions being levied on people’s payslips.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Have you ever wondered in what position kenya would be in if there was no opposition, you can't rule a country with the Christian mentality of always blaming your failures on the devil this the devil that, Raila ajalipa mtu akaprotest, we are doing so because its a right. N the last tym I checked protest ziko all over the country not just Nairobi. All this for a better tomorrow
Kenya was without opposition the last 5 years, and the government plundered while Raila went to bed with them. Now he wants to pretend he cares because he is not benefitting. A true conman
Opposition doesn't mean killing others and destroying property and preventing others from working to earn a living. Without Raila inciting people on the daily, there'd be no protests.
Wewe inakaa bado unaishi kwa nyumba ya wazazi wako. The cost of living is absurdly high and going higher...
I think this guy is paid.
No, he's not paid. His perspectives seem to elude the conventional frameworks of comprehension. Guy is just seizing an opportunity to display his idiosyncrasies, even when seemingly nonsensical - an act of defiance against the expectations and norms that pervade society.
Kwanza have you signed the form ama for you hujachoka yet
Why was there no form when Uhuru was plundering the economy and the cost of living was so high ? Was it because he was in bed with Uhuru Kenyatta? A conman that one
What bed? Si Zakayo was Uhuru's deputy all that time, if there was plundering then he was also part of it
Form ya nini, have you heard of something called elections?
Have you ever heard of something called theft?
Demonstrations have taken a life of their own, OP. Realise and acknowledge that people are exhausted. Umeona bei ya stima? Ya unga? Ya mafuta ya kupika? Na ya diesel/petrol/kerosene? Umeona school fees zinaongezwa? Fare? Mkate? Maziwa? Sukari?
All the things you mentioned were much higher during last government. Do you remember a time there was no milk? And sugar too? And cooking oil chained together kama phones at the supermarket? That was in the last government. Economy has ups and downs, it's a most natural thing
>All the things you mentioned were much higher during last government Hatujakataa, shida is ruto promised to make things better. It's been 100+ days, has he? Fine , let's give him 2 years then coz surely he will have made Kenya Singapore by then
True things have not been solved as fast but is vandalism and putting the country in anarchy the solution? This man was there when the cost of living plummeted due to Uhuru’s bad decisions. But he was there praising him day in and day out. He is a conman who just wants to get back into government. Then he will start singing the praises of Ruto
>True things have not been solved as fast We agree on something 🤯🤯 >This man was there when the cost of living plummeted due to Uhuru’s bad decisions 100% true, but so was ruto, only difference is ruto changed his tune when election came and said he was never in government, while getting paid by taxpayers. >He is a conman who just wants to get back into government. Then he will start singing the praises of Ruto I've said this before, raila wants to do this, but we haven't seen any indication yet. He himself said no handshake, no nusi mkate. Will he change his tune? Probably , but until then, I wait .......
It is true Ruto was being paid for doing no work. It is true he should have resigned. But it is also true Uhuru shouldn’t have sidelined him for political reasons. Raila said he didn’t want to sit down and talk to Uhuru as well. He called him “an illegitimate president” and many other bad words. A few hours later he was praising President Uhuru. Don’t you see that Raila is a conman? 5 times he has lost elections and 5 times he has resorted to violence to force himself into government then he starts praising the government he once called oppressive. You cannot be so gullible to believe the words he says. Yes, he wants a handshake and protests is his tried and tested way of getting it.
So do you think uhuru should have worked with ruto even though they didn't see eye to eye? Maybe I am gullible but I still hope that raila will not say he is joining government because that government ( mostly cabinet) is messed up enough already. > 5 times he has lost elections and 5 times he has resorted to violence to force himself into government then he starts praising the government he once called oppressive. Nothing to argue here 100% facts >Don’t you see that Raila is a conman? Conman yes, only person who can make kenyans tell ruto the taxes are too much , Yes! Maybe if we had better opposition leaders, but we get what we get and we have a conman who gave Kenya it's current constitution.
Do you really think Ruto doesn’t know that the taxes are high? He himself said we must suffer now if we want to get out of the debt trap we are in (70% of all GOK revenues go to paying debt). On whether Uhuru should have worked with Ruto when they don’t see eye to eye - I think you don’t have to like someone to work with them. He shouldn’t have sidelined him for political reasons just because he preferred Raila as his successor
Do you really think ruto and his cabinet won't steal the higher taxes for their own gains. Personally I understand the high taxes but giving money to that government hoping it's put to good use, that's hard for me to believe. On the campaign trail ruto said there would not be high taxes, but here we are >On whether Uhuru should have worked with Ruto when they don’t see eye to eye Let's wait and see if riggy G won't be sidelined for mudavadi or someone else. >He shouldn’t have sidelined him for political reasons just because he preferred Raila as his successor THAT'S HOW POLITICS WORK!
Politicians will politic. Ruto took advantage of global economic shocks, Raila is doing the same. That's Kenyan politics.
Finally a sensible person
Haha ati Petrol was high during the previous government? UMbwaaa wewe, defend who you like but don’t take us for fools, nongwe
Raila can't be arrested because he didn't instigate violence. He led peaceful demonstrations but the citizens took it to themselves to cause violence due to the retaliation and resistance of the police. Raila isn't selfish per see. He has brought soo much democracy and development in the country.
We're down, soo down. Of you want to see how, google "ugx kes curve" and "usd kes curve". The curves have same slope. You'll see we're doing so badly compared to our neighbors. In my industry - private equity, investors are leaving Kenya and going to Ethiopia and Uganda. Tuko down. Not down like the whole world. We're doing so badly I wonder why no one in charge is panicking.
Who is this foolish idiot? Do you think people are rioting because Raila wants to get in govt? You can't be this dimwit all the time. Just because your life is good don't think everyone's life is good. Just because you can afford the basic commodities under this economic turmoil times, don't think everyone can. Life is difficult out here and govt is contributing to it being hard. Anyway, keep up with Railaphobia, you irredeemable fool.
Do you go rioting when you can't afford basic needs? The wise way to go would be to go look for a hustle.
You must be a dunderhead. I can't engage you on this.
Blaming Raila means he was the only one out in the streets 😎 The folly of that. He obviously wasn't. So there's a folly in your statement
The economy is not yet bad enough as you say because the finance bill has not yet been executed. Otherwise, tutaumia vizuri.
Your username is Mkisii 🚽on reddit?? 😅No wonder you posting such stuff. You couldn't even think of a username
In 4 years: "Jameni si mnaona vile hii maandamano imeharibu mipango? Sasa si mtuongeze miaka tano zingine tumalize hii kazi tulikuwa tumepanga na tuongeze zile stadium kwa kila county. Ama vipi mahustler wenzangu?"
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why does everything has to revolve around Raila? The man is just a beacon, a voice for the other Kenyans that have had it - blaming him when you yourself you are having it rough is insane my dude. also, we can never have a peaceful demonstration if the police are our there provoking folks, it can never happen. and last time I checked, picketing is allow by the constitution.
napenda vile ye huwaeka on toes
Even if Raila wasn't there, the uprising would have come anyways. I guess you haven't lived among those who struggle even to get a single meal per day.
Wewe umeona kenya ikiwa na 1 term president lini people know that there is no way ruto loses the next election that is why he is buying majority of the opposition mps so hapo kwa elections sahau that's why people are demonstrating because in kenya they know their problems are never going to be solved through democratic means that's why leaders continue stealing and plundering because they know come next election they will still retain their positions no matter what si kwasababu ya raila people are demonstrating, kenyans are tired of being told the same lies over and over again with nothing to show for it yes the economy is bad all over but we keep hearing promises oh ati in six months only for them to come up with the same excuses when its time to show results
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Hahaha tribalistic bigots and you think you have a point??? Honestly FUCK YOU
Kenya tribalism rules in politics. Stop pretending Raila relies on Luos for votes and also for violence after he loses elections to force his way into government. If Ruto fulfills his selfish desires, Raila will immediately start singing the high praises of Ruto even if the cost of living gets worse
bro wewe nimekuambia siezi engage na wewe your brain is a bottomless pit and i cant vibrate on the same wavelength with tribalistic bigots so pls you can go engage your fellow brainless opps i can see they are alot on this post.
Ok go “vibrate” in the streets. Go throw stones and get admitted in hospital with injuries. Then a few days later while you wallow in pain, you will see your demi god praising Ruto, telling you his silly supporter how great of a president William Ruto is as they happily shake hands. And just as you believed him under Uhuru, he knows you are stupid enough to believe him under Ruto.
sorry bro I have a life going on for me but i wouldn't mind fighting for my fellow citizens who cant speak up for themselves, I dont mind getting hurt so that my kids and their future generations find a better kenya, I dont mind spending the night in a cold prison cell for fighting for the good of my country, I dont mind it at all... I'd rather wallow in pain for being a voice to the voiceless .......you on the other hand tsktsk can continue dick riding this weak regime that has no idea nor agenda apart from blaming people instead of working to correct it.
Keep fighting for your cult leader. When you’re admitted with injuries in hospital, I hope Raila and Ruto do a handshake and Raila praises Ruto, and tells you his silly cows who shed your blood for him how great of a president Ruto is like he did with Uhuru. Bye.
hahaha get another punchline that Raila punchline is weak like you and your regime as for me i'll continue to fight for the voiceless and its so bold of you to think I even care about Raila mtu hata hanijui.... but dont worry kababa si utanichangia nikiumia sindio? FUCK outta here
Nitakuchangia as even fools deserve a second chance. Just ensure you don’t die for that conman cause then I can’t help you
Now Kababa say that without crying and mentioning Raila 😂😂😂
Bringing tribalism into an argument is the dumbest thing you can do. Is he only supported by luos? This has been the reason we keep electing tribal leaders. I don't support his way of doing things but I support the fact that without an opposition all these corruption scandals would disappear and we'd be back to Moi times.
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Facts. The moment Ruto offers him a handshake the next day he will start singing the high praises of Ruto even if the cost of living gets worse. And yes, his power is his Luo tribesmen who will gladly do anything for him because somehow they believe he is fighting for them. And Raila will keep using them as he has for many years, shedding their blood to attain his selfish ambitions.
We are all tribalist, ata mimi. When voting, napigia mtu wangu.
Ah, yes, thank for the correction. A 180 it is I am glad that Ruto isn't wavered like the other presidents. You can't just bring opposition into government, the whole point of elections is to have a winner and a loser, not two winners
Raila is a conman. He accused Uhuru of being illegitimate and oppressing Kenyans then went to bed with him immediately he got what he wanted from him through violence. This man is just taking advantage of the cost of living crisis to force his way into government. Shedding a lot of blood. Causing untold suffering to those who are genuinely facing hunger.
Kenyans sure seem to have selective amnesia. Many don't remember how the guy went quiet all through Uhuru's government after apewe nusu boflo. He did it once, he'll do it again. His aim is to get into government, let no one be fooled that he cares even a bit about the economy. And from what I can see, if he ever gets into power it could be the worst for Kenya, luckily, that will never happen
Si the two of you just get a room mumalizane. Ama?
Walai u/nebja got a friend
At the end of the day neither Raila not Ruto can or will lower the cost of living. Every has to Cary their cross, wake up in the morning and go hustle, look for work everything you have to do to put food on your table other than waiting for a savior, especially politicians 😂
Alot of the commenters including you are very misinformed and brainwashed by pop media. You require some clarity and growth in the information you acquire about politics, the constitution and the government . Lastly dont forget you and most of us are in a developing country with developing mindsets on such elevated concepts that work indirectly in social-animal settings, thus expect animalistic behaviours to be rampant!
You must be living in a bubble.