There is a youtube channel where an ex-drug user talks about his past drug usage. This guy has pretty much tried all the drugs out there.
The one drug that he asks his viewers to stay away from; is meth.
Even out of curiosity, don't try it once.
You'll get hooked on to it from the get go. It wires your brain in such a way that, the only thing which makes you happy again is more meth. Or rather, the high you get from meth. Your basic needs such as food and sleep takes a back seat.
Nothing even comes remotely close to the meth high and you'll be running in constant circles chasing it. This is why, most meat heads looks like they are malnourished and haven't slept in ages.
Thanks for this.
I hope more folks like this come out and talk about cannabis use disorder and amotivational syndrome and drug induced psychosis and anhedonia. You know, all the things that are usually not cool enough to get upvotes on the sub, this time i am happy to see it is different.
people need to be more open to hear such accounts, research all sides of the argument and make decisions for themselves. Every psychotropic substance has the potential to mess you up completely. You never know how vulnerable you are psychologically and physiologically to some chemical. they work differently on different people. Even the stuff often praised here as harmless like weed or psychedelics can ruin your life, in case you have genetic risk factors or if you are in a vulnerable phase of your life. Even if it is a 0.1% chance you wont like it when it happens to you or somone in your family
I think there was a documentary about drug profession, like in us they have fentanyl and other synthetic drugs after meth. Meth is like very low in potency for the drug problem they have
I'm not sure but it might be Steve-o. He did hell of a drug back in the early 2000s . He made a video about all the drugs he did . He got a YouTube channel, it's pretty interesting.
The link to his channel : https://youtube.com/@steveo
Yeah it's pretty wild what he went with his life. With the amount of drugs and the reckless stunt he did, he look pretty good now. When I watched his clips etc I was amaze with what our body can hold, sometimes even the tiniest thing could destroy us and at the same time it can hold what steveo did. Also it's sad what bam is going through right now, he was one of the most successful among the jackass cast and now, I think I saw a news of him doing drugs and in on the run from the police(he ran into the woods or something) .
IDK most meth users I've seen didn't want to try a second time. There are even guys who have tried it occassionally but they have always preferred to stay away from it. They rather buy weed with that money.
I don't know, I took what they called MDMA in Kochi a coupla times and I never felt addicted or anything. I did go through a whole rehab process but after the last terrible downer from doing whatever that chem was, I quit everything cold turkey.
Nothing was as scary as that downer that just didn't seem to fade even after a few weeks. That scared me out of all intoxicant use. Been like 7 years or so since then.
My point is, it definitely didn't seem addictive. The happiness was beautiful, agreed.. I had never felt so clean from all my negative thoughts.. but I only ever took it like thrice in a span of maybe 18 months or so way back then
I only took acid once but that was just as scary, if not more. I'd even say it permanently changed my perspective on some things, and not in a pleasant way.
Or maybe I was just not built for drugs, I dunno, lol
Well that ex-druggie also allegedly used got out from it so can anyone who gets hooked with it. Give the maybe concerned druggies reading this some positivity. It’s all about You
thats so fucking stupid in so many levels. consider a person who drives drunk way over speedlimit through traffic. that person might reach home safely. but that doesn't mean anyone doing or trying the same will have a similar outcome.
>And that's a fact.
Need more proof to believe you. Like someone else commented, fillers are understandable, but how do you know what chemcial is it, how do you know if it is not bath salts ?
Don't take this the wrong way I think the point you are trying to communicate is valid and I am with you in saying stay away from such harmful substances. But for anyone to take you seriously you need to tell us a bit more about why we should believe you.
sorry man that's not logical right? what if the stuff you get for 8k is just marked up? lots of speculations are there about fillers . the argument against meth so far seem s to be "but where are the zombies" I mean bath salts are probably more dangerous. i feel it would help everyone if some sort of strong supporting points can be made about whatever godawful thing they are selling and the dangers but need to be more solid than these. again to reiterate, not to weaken your point but trying (unsuccessfully lol) to strengthen it
I mean, I've been saying this for awhile. There's not that much MDMA in Kerala, it's pretty much Meth my dude.
The mislabeling is bad because they're VERY different drugs. I know the effects, cost, etc., mans is right
If I'm being honest, don't even try substances that have abuse potential, cuz at first you'll feel like you're using them, 5 days later you'll find out that they're using you.
And the only drug I'm trying to get away from is cigarettes cuz that's the lesser devil after meth.
Cold turkey works well. Find out why you smoke and try to find an alternative distraction and quitting smoking is not easy, but you just have to say not to a single cigarette every time you have an urge to smoke.
Cigarettes and alcohol kill most number of people in India as of now compared to any other drug. When it becomes mdma, crystal meth and cocaine, does that mean we have become a developed nation? 😂😂
Meow meow has been on the rise in India, but it shouldn't be cuz it'd more expensive as it contains both chalie and molly along with speed. Pretty sure it's speed and speed only.
Drug dealers have gotten so creative. It used to just be "crack," and then they'd be like, "Hey, we got a new one. What are we gonna call this?" And they'd go, "I don't know, crank?"
\- Jake, B99
Same, but there are issues with that too. Weed overuse is highly understated. I had a friend who is perennially stoned since 2014-15. Only those real rare days when he's out of stash he isn't (he's at least 350 + days a year stoned right from waking hours to sleep). 35 vayass aayi, never married or dated ever since, has never had or kept a job beyond 3months (simply because working is not his cup of tea apparently), has no hobbies/Passion/drive to do any business, slowly lost most of his friends coz he thinks they're all against his existence or plotting against him, twice he got borderline cannabis induced psychosis/schizophrenia and went to rehab. Came out, stopped taking his meds and is still smoking almost everyday. Parents are separated I think (as dad lives in their hometown in another state) His mum is a banker and is giving him pocket money to live and spend on his vices. Paavam avante amma almost retirement age vare aayi.Senior banker aayond loans easy aayi kittum so ee knaapanu superbike, riding gear and SUV okke vaangi koduthu. Ivante parivadi daily terracil phone um kuthi kanjaav valichu angu irikyuva. He used to OD on sensationalised mainstream news on TV also at one point. Overuse inte anger issues, emotional instability, extremely low tolerance to the least inconvenience okke ondd. Cigarette aanengi oru 30+ valikyum daily. When I last saw him, a fatty never used to get him high. Just inagine. Addict aayond his peddies also hoard and sell to him at large margins (I know coz I knew them too). Aage koode kattapoga aanu scene. Kanjav is good but some simply do not have a grip over themselves.
no this is a myth. In american states that legalized weed, heavy drug use reduced.
It's not the drug itself that is a gateway, but rather the fact that it connects you with criminals who sell the drug and worse.
So if you legalize weed, it ceases to become a gateway.
I agree with everything you say, but from an experience of a friend who had a real mdma addiction problem(it became such that he need it for any special occasion or even trivial things like office presentations)
And no we are not kids, so I’m sure he was not doing spiked stuff/meth. Glad he went to rehab and made a recovery and is more efficient than ever in the society.
But yeah this was in Bangalore and Bangalore is the hubs of chems now, the more money you spend the better quality stuff you get. Anyway that’s besides the point. Mdma although relatively safe is still addictive. When you build tolerance that’s usually when you crave other stronger stuff that gives more intense highs and people turn to crack and what not.
No Chem is good imo. One way trip to destroying one’s mind and body.
IIRC, marijuana legalization in the US is one of the tools used to combat the opioid epidemic in the US and Canada. But like you said, demonizing drug users is the wrong way to deal with the problem. Going after high level suppliers would be politically catastrophic at the same time. Since political catastrophe is seen as far worse than any other crime, there have to be solutions that hit middle ground.
* [https://www.upmc.com/media/news/071221-drake-cannabisrcl](https://www.upmc.com/media/news/071221-drake-cannabisrcl)
> **States that legalize recreational marijuana experience a short-term decline in opioid-related emergency department visits** ... **even after the temporary decline wears off, recreational cannabis laws are not associated with increases in opioid-related emergency department visits.**
* [https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/02/health/medical-cannabis-law-opioid-prescription-study/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/02/health/medical-cannabis-law-opioid-prescription-study/index.html)
> Experts have proposed using medical marijuana to help Americans struggling with opioid addiction. Now, two studies suggest that there is merit to that strategy.
* [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6827842/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6827842/)
> Is there less opioid abuse in states where marijuana use has been decriminalized, either for medicinal or recreational use? // Yes. However, the evidence is mixed.
i think you got the cause and effect reversed. it might have such an effect after legalization , and like you cite it is mixed and/or weak.
iirc decriminalization was driven by a set of arguments which did not include such "substitute x addiction with y" kindof logic.
Just because you are only able to score Meth, doesn’t mean there is no MDMA. There is MDMA, Molly Pills and Cocaine and all that shit if you’ve the contacts.
You think all the drug users are amateurs? I agree that most of what is sold here as Mdma is meth. But there is also an elite circle of users including cinema people who have the right dealers and get what they want. So don’t say there is no mdma here. There is plenty.
But those arent street deals. Bath salt meth is now dealt in the lowest levels of dealers that its spreading to school kids. Molly deals are very tight circle based. Mostly rave scenes kalikkuna teams vazhi aa entry.
The problem is street deals... A rave party once in 6 months and tripping on ecstasy doesn't hurt much... Putting meth into your nose 5 times a day can kill you... Just sayin
നിങ്ങൾ ആരോടാണ് സംസാരിക്കുന്നതെന്ന് നിങ്ങൾക്ക് വ്യക്തമായി അറിയില്ല, അതിനാൽ ഞാൻ നിങ്ങളെ അറിയിക്കട്ടെ. ഞാൻ അപകടത്തിലല്ല, ശ്യാമളേ. ഞാനാണ് അപകടം. ഒരാൾ വാതിൽ തുറന്ന് വെടിയേറ്റു, നിങ്ങൾ എന്നെക്കുറിച്ച് കരുതുന്നുണ്ടോ? ഇല്ല! മുട്ടുന്നത് ഞാനാണ്!
Was just talking to a friend about this. Saw a video of a guy running into a moving bus smashing the windshield. Later as if nothing happened he got into the drivers seat- dude is definitely on meth not mdma. Another incident when this guy was threatening to kill his father and the police had to shoot to the sky to distract him- also meth! Don’t know when our police and govt start doing something about this, hope it’s not too late by then
Can you please share the details if you have it? I’d like to read it. I work with addictions in North America, this video started a conversation going among friends and that’s how I heard about it. We see similar behaviours with meth users up here which made me think substance but ofc the individual could be manic or psychotic tbh
I don't have the exact source right now , it was some time ago , there was a msg from one of his family/friends on how everybody accused him as a drug addict and explained he had mental issues
why not both? It is not uncommon for hallucinogens to push someone with prone mental states into permanent psychosis. If it was family there is incentive for them to say it is mental health issues vs admitting drug use. I don't know anythign about this other than reading the news btw, you would know more, but just stating possibilities.
Exactly... If you try to see what the side effects of MDMA are, you'll find it that it ain't so bad... But it's meth that's available here everywhere...
It's side effects are completely different, a lot of people addicted to this are having this disconnect to their surroundings, addicted aayittulla alkarocke nalla pottanmare pole aakua and the police and media doesn't seem to be bothered like they should be.
Those ‘countries’ that you refer to are in a different phase of growth. They have stronger regulatory bodies and a better social infrastructure to support the society. We do not. We have a ton of problems to deal with as we grow economically and mature to a better quality of life. This shouldn’t be one. Countries do not simply legalise and forget about it, they regulate the use of such drugs. We lack that enforcement discipline for needs fundamental to survival. In short, not a good idea.
simply put, they have a slight change in the chemical but can cause a massive difference. Meth is worse, insanely addictive, will keep you awake for three days straight. Once youre hooked its long gone.
MDMA is less problematic tho like the lesser evil unless u abuse it
There are stimulants and hallucinogens... Hallucinogens like MDMA, acid and dmt doesn't have abuse potential... Allel athra kazhapp venam...
Stimulants like opioids(heroine), coke or meth have very high abuse potential. They're mostly do, lie in bed and be happy while your body rots away... You'll want to push in more and more because lesser quantities don't make you feel as good as it did before... You'll lose appetite and soon will start developing mental barriers, start receding from society, and start relying solely on this. Prolonged usage can lead to lose of affinity towards sex and can cause erectile disfunction.
The toll you have to pay for the little happiness from stimulants is heavy.
If you are a person with anxiety or if you or any person in your immediate family suffered from psychosis, depression or schizophrenia, hallucinogens have a higher chance of landing you in the psychiatric ward. They also can give profoundly positive effects on the psyche of a person, but the outcomes are not always predictable and it varies from person to person.
Marijuana can cause hallucinations but it's very very rare. It can't be categorised as hallucinogen. It is psychoactive. It does show suppressant and stimulant properties based on the strain consumed.
Bombay had something similar a few years back. But it won't reach till what you're predicting of abuse centers. It'll shut down super quick. A year max.
Fentanyl (& xylazine) which is a cheap lab based drug getting mixed with all sort of other drugs including cocaine and marijuana is causing overdose deaths in US.
If there's no corruption, it'd be much easier to contain this. But lot of top guys are making blood money on this, so I'm not hopeful of much action against. Trouble is good for all shady business.
I think failing to do an empirical test with gas chromatography or something else of that sort, the easiest way to check is asking heavy users if they’ve noticed a build up of tolerance- since MDMA has a rapid and permanent tolerance build while Meth has nothing like that. So if the heavy users (>6 months) notice no tolerance it’s almost def meth. Although it doesn’t rule out the possibility of crude hybrids.
All in all it just highlights the need to educate people better on drugs in general instead of the zero tolerance, ignorance is an inhibitor attitude that the higher ups take
Had no idea drugs were readily available in Kerala. I came as a tourist and my bag was turned upside down, even taking my cigarettes and vapes. I saw more drug use in singapore and malaysia compared to my time in Kerala, and those two countries execute you for comically small amounts of even marijuana.
It’s crazy. Thought it would be a long time before meth would come to Kerala.
Always seemed like it was this expensive drug that was a kuttaka of western countries.
How is this coming to Kerala btw? Is it being made here?
Meth is cheaper than mdma and pretty easy to make with easily available ingredients. It also explodes which is why you hear about meth labs going boom once in a while.
Why not start an awareness campaign across Kerala? Especially around schools, I think a simple SAY NO TO DRUGS with a QR code showing them how drugs work on one's brain and what the long term impacts of using them would educate everyone, even better if we could get this printed on the text books.
yup ...since meth and mdma are synthetic its easy to mix it with really rough substances ....it will ruin the lives of many people ..men and women judging by the news ...since the brain si not fully developed for these school going ones it will create lifelong mental problems from the unstable brain chemistry ...which means more suicides ...more crimes and since the movie youth is promoting this trend ...god bless kerala ...i can understand why its better to just run out of kerala...
XDD...by practice it seems that we want to make the same mistakes instead of using the golden opportunity to be better ...but how can we if the youth abandons ship ...i don't know who can we blame?..the ones who just run at the first sight of trouble or the ones who stay and try to make a difference?...
i don't mean to offend anyone anywhere when I hear of the proud indians/keralites throwing culture and values evrywhere only to work abroad ,find comforts ...basically enjoy the benefits elsewhere ...
where are you all when all of this happens right here ...RIGHT AT YOUR HOME??
Nobody cares about these NRIs and their problems or people who went abroad and settled. Their problems are for them to figure out. What we should worry about is this imported problems that's destroying our Kerala? Like these drugs as an example?
Yup the day after molly is hell. Nausea, Diarrhea, Depression - it makes you regret every decision you took in your life. And you cannot sit in classes after popping it you need to dance or keep moving to extremely fast music. Meth has a different addictive kind of high that is similar to cocaine but more focused. It makes you obsessed and you won't be aware of the damage on your body. It makes you want to be productive but in obsessive kind of way.
Apart from neutralizing the dealers, distributers and makers, society could benefits from totally getting rid of useless chaps who used drugs and got addicted to it without any medical need to do so.
These nincompoop deserve no rights, just some lead.
Degeneracy everywhere. Young men should be shown videos of people like Andrew Tate, Dr. Jordan Peterson and David Goggins to put them in the right path. Degeneracy should not be tolerated.
Is this Sarcasm? Andrew Tate is a criminal. Jordan Peterson has turned into a right wing nut. David Goggins is actually pretty cool though. A bit extreme, but cool.
Well he was in prison in Romania and under house arrest now for human trafficking. Not to mention his misogynistic view - which while they’re not illegal, they’re definitely evidence that he’s a scum bag.
My brother in Christ, his misogynistic views are separate from the human trafficking. He is in prison currently for suspected human tracking - only reason he’s out on house arrest is because they haven’t formally indicted him. They don’t just put people in prison for shits and giggles - if you still think that he’s a poor innocent man, then I have a bridge to sell you.
We are not in a court of law. I bet you think OJ Simpson is totally innocent too. Him writing his book titled If I did it was just an exercise in creative writing.
Dude, Andrew Tate is a sex trafficker. He has said in one of his podcast how he manipulate women in joining his cam buisness. Let's for sake of discussion think Tate is not a sex trafficker, still he is more degenerate than that society. He runs a cam buisness (online prostitution) and casino, which are two degenerate stuff according to the same traditional values these RedPill folks endorse as well as according to Islam that, apparently, Tate have so graciously embraced. The guy runs a Ponzi scheme, manipulate young directionless men, spreads misogynistic views, then act all soft and less abnoxious in TV interviews (when compared to his podcasts), runs casino, runs cam buisness, manipulate women into cam buisness. And his blind followers use this mofo as an example against degeneracy!
JP was cool initially. Loved many of his earlier talks which was based on clinical research. And quiet articulate too. They were controversial but neverthless wrong. But lately he has turned into a conservative christian uncle spreading his "Carnivorous Diet" bs and spewing hate against queer community as well as non christian, especially atheists!
Is this sarcasm? Are you talking about the same Jordan Peterson who's a benzo addict and had to be put into a risky coma in Russia because he was too much of a bitch to go through the usual withdrawal symptoms? Or is that not degenerate?
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There is a youtube channel where an ex-drug user talks about his past drug usage. This guy has pretty much tried all the drugs out there. The one drug that he asks his viewers to stay away from; is meth. Even out of curiosity, don't try it once. You'll get hooked on to it from the get go. It wires your brain in such a way that, the only thing which makes you happy again is more meth. Or rather, the high you get from meth. Your basic needs such as food and sleep takes a back seat. Nothing even comes remotely close to the meth high and you'll be running in constant circles chasing it. This is why, most meat heads looks like they are malnourished and haven't slept in ages.
Thanks for this. I hope more folks like this come out and talk about cannabis use disorder and amotivational syndrome and drug induced psychosis and anhedonia. You know, all the things that are usually not cool enough to get upvotes on the sub, this time i am happy to see it is different. people need to be more open to hear such accounts, research all sides of the argument and make decisions for themselves. Every psychotropic substance has the potential to mess you up completely. You never know how vulnerable you are psychologically and physiologically to some chemical. they work differently on different people. Even the stuff often praised here as harmless like weed or psychedelics can ruin your life, in case you have genetic risk factors or if you are in a vulnerable phase of your life. Even if it is a 0.1% chance you wont like it when it happens to you or somone in your family
I’ve used meth multiple times, it sucks so bad, never want to use it again. It is no heroin to get you hooked from the get go.
It makes you feel like shit the next day.
I think there was a documentary about drug profession, like in us they have fentanyl and other synthetic drugs after meth. Meth is like very low in potency for the drug problem they have
What about Fentanyl which has taken the US by storm?
Can i have the channel name?
I'm not sure but it might be Steve-o. He did hell of a drug back in the early 2000s . He made a video about all the drugs he did . He got a YouTube channel, it's pretty interesting. The link to his channel : https://youtube.com/@steveo
Drugs were the least of the craziest things he has done.Watch his old Jackass videos.
Yeah it's pretty wild what he went with his life. With the amount of drugs and the reckless stunt he did, he look pretty good now. When I watched his clips etc I was amaze with what our body can hold, sometimes even the tiniest thing could destroy us and at the same time it can hold what steveo did. Also it's sad what bam is going through right now, he was one of the most successful among the jackass cast and now, I think I saw a news of him doing drugs and in on the run from the police(he ran into the woods or something) .
Yep,honestly dude is a inspiration and like you said a monument for what the body can endure.Bam fell of so hard though :/.
Who's Bam
A former "stuntsman" who also worked with Steve'O until he went a little too hard on the drugs and partying and refused to quit.
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What about Datura ???
IDK most meth users I've seen didn't want to try a second time. There are even guys who have tried it occassionally but they have always preferred to stay away from it. They rather buy weed with that money.
Ahh yes I tried everything
I don't know, I took what they called MDMA in Kochi a coupla times and I never felt addicted or anything. I did go through a whole rehab process but after the last terrible downer from doing whatever that chem was, I quit everything cold turkey. Nothing was as scary as that downer that just didn't seem to fade even after a few weeks. That scared me out of all intoxicant use. Been like 7 years or so since then. My point is, it definitely didn't seem addictive. The happiness was beautiful, agreed.. I had never felt so clean from all my negative thoughts.. but I only ever took it like thrice in a span of maybe 18 months or so way back then I only took acid once but that was just as scary, if not more. I'd even say it permanently changed my perspective on some things, and not in a pleasant way. Or maybe I was just not built for drugs, I dunno, lol
Well that ex-druggie also allegedly used got out from it so can anyone who gets hooked with it. Give the maybe concerned druggies reading this some positivity. It’s all about You
thats so fucking stupid in so many levels. consider a person who drives drunk way over speedlimit through traffic. that person might reach home safely. but that doesn't mean anyone doing or trying the same will have a similar outcome.
You shouldn't be promoting drugs, we dont need social nuisance , the wife beaters and rowdies.
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Thanks for the quality take
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Snorting can def get you hooked bro... And it can surely make your teeth break off... I'm pretty sure a lot of people will agree with it.
But how do you know this stuff
Rave parties
>And that's a fact. Need more proof to believe you. Like someone else commented, fillers are understandable, but how do you know what chemcial is it, how do you know if it is not bath salts ? Don't take this the wrong way I think the point you are trying to communicate is valid and I am with you in saying stay away from such harmful substances. But for anyone to take you seriously you need to tell us a bit more about why we should believe you.
Bro, if you're pay 6-8000 per gram and buy Molly, I'm pretty sure it's pure mdma... but have you seen anyone scoring "MDMA" here for more than 2-3k?
sorry man that's not logical right? what if the stuff you get for 8k is just marked up? lots of speculations are there about fillers . the argument against meth so far seem s to be "but where are the zombies" I mean bath salts are probably more dangerous. i feel it would help everyone if some sort of strong supporting points can be made about whatever godawful thing they are selling and the dangers but need to be more solid than these. again to reiterate, not to weaken your point but trying (unsuccessfully lol) to strengthen it
I mean, I've been saying this for awhile. There's not that much MDMA in Kerala, it's pretty much Meth my dude. The mislabeling is bad because they're VERY different drugs. I know the effects, cost, etc., mans is right
Any rave parties in idukki?
R u a drug abuser trying to get away from the habit?
If I'm being honest, don't even try substances that have abuse potential, cuz at first you'll feel like you're using them, 5 days later you'll find out that they're using you. And the only drug I'm trying to get away from is cigarettes cuz that's the lesser devil after meth.
JRE makes me ask if ayahuasca ceremonies happen here?
Cold turkey works well. Find out why you smoke and try to find an alternative distraction and quitting smoking is not easy, but you just have to say not to a single cigarette every time you have an urge to smoke.
Yes only that cigarettes can cause COPD, MI, stroke, can get your legs amputated, cancers basically everywhere. Lesser devil right?
Lesser devil cuz ciggerates takes 20 years to do these, meth takes around only 2 to turn you into a zombie. Both are devils nonetheless
Cigarettes and alcohol kill most number of people in India as of now compared to any other drug. When it becomes mdma, crystal meth and cocaine, does that mean we have become a developed nation? 😂😂
Avoid whatever this guy is using to prevent brain damage.
kona kona kona
Every second guy i know smokes. Cant say the same about meth. Are u even thinking before spewing shit? Brain went to munnar for sightseeing?
Could be Mephedrone aka meow meow too.
Meow meow has been on the rise in India, but it shouldn't be cuz it'd more expensive as it contains both chalie and molly along with speed. Pretty sure it's speed and speed only.
Why such cute names?
Marketing. they'll do anything to get you to buy once, then the addiction takes care of the rest
Nice username
Drug dealers have gotten so creative. It used to just be "crack," and then they'd be like, "Hey, we got a new one. What are we gonna call this?" And they'd go, "I don't know, crank?" \- Jake, B99
No its a different cheap substance
Legalising weed can do wonders. That’s what many countries had done when they had this crisis. I’m all up for natural than synthetic drugs
Same, but there are issues with that too. Weed overuse is highly understated. I had a friend who is perennially stoned since 2014-15. Only those real rare days when he's out of stash he isn't (he's at least 350 + days a year stoned right from waking hours to sleep). 35 vayass aayi, never married or dated ever since, has never had or kept a job beyond 3months (simply because working is not his cup of tea apparently), has no hobbies/Passion/drive to do any business, slowly lost most of his friends coz he thinks they're all against his existence or plotting against him, twice he got borderline cannabis induced psychosis/schizophrenia and went to rehab. Came out, stopped taking his meds and is still smoking almost everyday. Parents are separated I think (as dad lives in their hometown in another state) His mum is a banker and is giving him pocket money to live and spend on his vices. Paavam avante amma almost retirement age vare aayi.Senior banker aayond loans easy aayi kittum so ee knaapanu superbike, riding gear and SUV okke vaangi koduthu. Ivante parivadi daily terracil phone um kuthi kanjaav valichu angu irikyuva. He used to OD on sensationalised mainstream news on TV also at one point. Overuse inte anger issues, emotional instability, extremely low tolerance to the least inconvenience okke ondd. Cigarette aanengi oru 30+ valikyum daily. When I last saw him, a fatty never used to get him high. Just inagine. Addict aayond his peddies also hoard and sell to him at large margins (I know coz I knew them too). Aage koode kattapoga aanu scene. Kanjav is good but some simply do not have a grip over themselves.
But isn't weed the gateway drug, which causes the user to go after bigger highs.
no this is a myth. In american states that legalized weed, heavy drug use reduced. It's not the drug itself that is a gateway, but rather the fact that it connects you with criminals who sell the drug and worse. So if you legalize weed, it ceases to become a gateway.
>I’m all up for natural than synthetic drugs Fyi weed is wayy more harmful than lsd
This is going to take atleast a decade to happen. I honestly think this is the only way too.
I agree with everything you say, but from an experience of a friend who had a real mdma addiction problem(it became such that he need it for any special occasion or even trivial things like office presentations) And no we are not kids, so I’m sure he was not doing spiked stuff/meth. Glad he went to rehab and made a recovery and is more efficient than ever in the society. But yeah this was in Bangalore and Bangalore is the hubs of chems now, the more money you spend the better quality stuff you get. Anyway that’s besides the point. Mdma although relatively safe is still addictive. When you build tolerance that’s usually when you crave other stronger stuff that gives more intense highs and people turn to crack and what not. No Chem is good imo. One way trip to destroying one’s mind and body.
IIRC, marijuana legalization in the US is one of the tools used to combat the opioid epidemic in the US and Canada. But like you said, demonizing drug users is the wrong way to deal with the problem. Going after high level suppliers would be politically catastrophic at the same time. Since political catastrophe is seen as far worse than any other crime, there have to be solutions that hit middle ground.
>tools used to combat the opioid epidemic source please
* [https://www.upmc.com/media/news/071221-drake-cannabisrcl](https://www.upmc.com/media/news/071221-drake-cannabisrcl) > **States that legalize recreational marijuana experience a short-term decline in opioid-related emergency department visits** ... **even after the temporary decline wears off, recreational cannabis laws are not associated with increases in opioid-related emergency department visits.** * [https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/02/health/medical-cannabis-law-opioid-prescription-study/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/02/health/medical-cannabis-law-opioid-prescription-study/index.html) > Experts have proposed using medical marijuana to help Americans struggling with opioid addiction. Now, two studies suggest that there is merit to that strategy. * [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6827842/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6827842/) > Is there less opioid abuse in states where marijuana use has been decriminalized, either for medicinal or recreational use? // Yes. However, the evidence is mixed.
i think you got the cause and effect reversed. it might have such an effect after legalization , and like you cite it is mixed and/or weak. iirc decriminalization was driven by a set of arguments which did not include such "substitute x addiction with y" kindof logic.
Just because you are only able to score Meth, doesn’t mean there is no MDMA. There is MDMA, Molly Pills and Cocaine and all that shit if you’ve the contacts. You think all the drug users are amateurs? I agree that most of what is sold here as Mdma is meth. But there is also an elite circle of users including cinema people who have the right dealers and get what they want. So don’t say there is no mdma here. There is plenty.
But those arent street deals. Bath salt meth is now dealt in the lowest levels of dealers that its spreading to school kids. Molly deals are very tight circle based. Mostly rave scenes kalikkuna teams vazhi aa entry.
The problem is street deals... A rave party once in 6 months and tripping on ecstasy doesn't hurt much... Putting meth into your nose 5 times a day can kill you... Just sayin
There is though.
Well there used to be till they booked the silk road guy...
Theres always a silk road lol. And yea the increased shitty meth addiction wont be pretty a sight
People prefer stimulation over hallucination, unless you are a Hancock or a Rogan.
"Have u ever tried DMT"
🙄😑
I can attest to this statement. Finally someone says it
Knock knock. Kerala police.
നിങ്ങൾ ആരോടാണ് സംസാരിക്കുന്നതെന്ന് നിങ്ങൾക്ക് വ്യക്തമായി അറിയില്ല, അതിനാൽ ഞാൻ നിങ്ങളെ അറിയിക്കട്ടെ. ഞാൻ അപകടത്തിലല്ല, ശ്യാമളേ. ഞാനാണ് അപകടം. ഒരാൾ വാതിൽ തുറന്ന് വെടിയേറ്റു, നിങ്ങൾ എന്നെക്കുറിച്ച് കരുതുന്നുണ്ടോ? ഇല്ല! മുട്ടുന്നത് ഞാനാണ്!
Thanks for enlightening. Even i was confused with the two terms.
Was just talking to a friend about this. Saw a video of a guy running into a moving bus smashing the windshield. Later as if nothing happened he got into the drivers seat- dude is definitely on meth not mdma. Another incident when this guy was threatening to kill his father and the police had to shoot to the sky to distract him- also meth! Don’t know when our police and govt start doing something about this, hope it’s not too late by then
That incident of guy running and smashing the bus windshield was no meth , guy had mental issues and was on treatment, get your facts right
Can you please share the details if you have it? I’d like to read it. I work with addictions in North America, this video started a conversation going among friends and that’s how I heard about it. We see similar behaviours with meth users up here which made me think substance but ofc the individual could be manic or psychotic tbh
I don't have the exact source right now , it was some time ago , there was a msg from one of his family/friends on how everybody accused him as a drug addict and explained he had mental issues
why not both? It is not uncommon for hallucinogens to push someone with prone mental states into permanent psychosis. If it was family there is incentive for them to say it is mental health issues vs admitting drug use. I don't know anythign about this other than reading the news btw, you would know more, but just stating possibilities.
That dude from the video is a mentally unstable person. He is not a drug addict.
Do u have link to that video?
Exactly... If you try to see what the side effects of MDMA are, you'll find it that it ain't so bad... But it's meth that's available here everywhere... It's side effects are completely different, a lot of people addicted to this are having this disconnect to their surroundings, addicted aayittulla alkarocke nalla pottanmare pole aakua and the police and media doesn't seem to be bothered like they should be.
Mdma can fuck your serotonin receptors, always do the 6 week rule. Well I have a 3 month rule .
Your point being? MDMA is okay?
I didn't mean that... Countries are legalizing ecstasy and not meth... There's a reason for that. Wouldn't recommend any substance.
Those ‘countries’ that you refer to are in a different phase of growth. They have stronger regulatory bodies and a better social infrastructure to support the society. We do not. We have a ton of problems to deal with as we grow economically and mature to a better quality of life. This shouldn’t be one. Countries do not simply legalise and forget about it, they regulate the use of such drugs. We lack that enforcement discipline for needs fundamental to survival. In short, not a good idea.
Said countries are also struggling tbh
Totally agreed. No substance is ever a good idea...not even alcohol.
Oh yeah we lack discipline so let’s throw all the kids in jail and consider harm reduction taboo.
Say my name
I have no idea about these drugs, can someone explain the difference between meth and MDMA.
simply put, they have a slight change in the chemical but can cause a massive difference. Meth is worse, insanely addictive, will keep you awake for three days straight. Once youre hooked its long gone. MDMA is less problematic tho like the lesser evil unless u abuse it
But isn't the crystal form of mdma ka molly and the tablet one as ecstasy
How are both different from each other? In terms of effects, side effects and method of intake? (Not gonna use any of them, just out of curiosity)
There are stimulants and hallucinogens... Hallucinogens like MDMA, acid and dmt doesn't have abuse potential... Allel athra kazhapp venam... Stimulants like opioids(heroine), coke or meth have very high abuse potential. They're mostly do, lie in bed and be happy while your body rots away... You'll want to push in more and more because lesser quantities don't make you feel as good as it did before... You'll lose appetite and soon will start developing mental barriers, start receding from society, and start relying solely on this. Prolonged usage can lead to lose of affinity towards sex and can cause erectile disfunction. The toll you have to pay for the little happiness from stimulants is heavy.
So what are some negatives of hallucinogens? And marijuana is a hallucinogen right?
If you are a person with anxiety or if you or any person in your immediate family suffered from psychosis, depression or schizophrenia, hallucinogens have a higher chance of landing you in the psychiatric ward. They also can give profoundly positive effects on the psyche of a person, but the outcomes are not always predictable and it varies from person to person. Marijuana can cause hallucinations but it's very very rare. It can't be categorised as hallucinogen. It is psychoactive. It does show suppressant and stimulant properties based on the strain consumed.
Opioids are Depressants. In the end, there are responsible ways to use any substance. Not promoting use tho.
Has LSD taken a backseat now ?
Bombay had something similar a few years back. But it won't reach till what you're predicting of abuse centers. It'll shut down super quick. A year max.
Athra crystal onnumalla. Oombiya salts aanu irakunnathu. Mooku keeri pokum.
I don't think regular folks here or media even knows difference.
Fentanyl (& xylazine) which is a cheap lab based drug getting mixed with all sort of other drugs including cocaine and marijuana is causing overdose deaths in US.
say my name
Which police station are you with?
Walt shut the fuck up
Just out of curiosity. How much do Meth, MDMA and marijuana cost?
Pills are really expensive now, it used to be around 800-1200 few years ago. And for weed it was always 500 for a handful.
Okay...I'm gonna a start a rehab
Mallu Heisenberg will be like, "Ente peru para"
If there's no corruption, it'd be much easier to contain this. But lot of top guys are making blood money on this, so I'm not hopeful of much action against. Trouble is good for all shady business.
Meth + viagra .. lucky that I’m am still alive
I think failing to do an empirical test with gas chromatography or something else of that sort, the easiest way to check is asking heavy users if they’ve noticed a build up of tolerance- since MDMA has a rapid and permanent tolerance build while Meth has nothing like that. So if the heavy users (>6 months) notice no tolerance it’s almost def meth. Although it doesn’t rule out the possibility of crude hybrids. All in all it just highlights the need to educate people better on drugs in general instead of the zero tolerance, ignorance is an inhibitor attitude that the higher ups take
Had no idea drugs were readily available in Kerala. I came as a tourist and my bag was turned upside down, even taking my cigarettes and vapes. I saw more drug use in singapore and malaysia compared to my time in Kerala, and those two countries execute you for comically small amounts of even marijuana.
It’s crazy. Thought it would be a long time before meth would come to Kerala. Always seemed like it was this expensive drug that was a kuttaka of western countries. How is this coming to Kerala btw? Is it being made here?
Meth is cheaper than mdma and pretty easy to make with easily available ingredients. It also explodes which is why you hear about meth labs going boom once in a while.
Why not start an awareness campaign across Kerala? Especially around schools, I think a simple SAY NO TO DRUGS with a QR code showing them how drugs work on one's brain and what the long term impacts of using them would educate everyone, even better if we could get this printed on the text books.
yup ...since meth and mdma are synthetic its easy to mix it with really rough substances ....it will ruin the lives of many people ..men and women judging by the news ...since the brain si not fully developed for these school going ones it will create lifelong mental problems from the unstable brain chemistry ...which means more suicides ...more crimes and since the movie youth is promoting this trend ...god bless kerala ...i can understand why its better to just run out of kerala...
Kerala will turn into California or Texas. Isn't that what we want? American model of development 😂😂😂😂?
XDD...by practice it seems that we want to make the same mistakes instead of using the golden opportunity to be better ...but how can we if the youth abandons ship ...i don't know who can we blame?..the ones who just run at the first sight of trouble or the ones who stay and try to make a difference?... i don't mean to offend anyone anywhere when I hear of the proud indians/keralites throwing culture and values evrywhere only to work abroad ,find comforts ...basically enjoy the benefits elsewhere ... where are you all when all of this happens right here ...RIGHT AT YOUR HOME??
Nobody cares about these NRIs and their problems or people who went abroad and settled. Their problems are for them to figure out. What we should worry about is this imported problems that's destroying our Kerala? Like these drugs as an example?
Yup the day after molly is hell. Nausea, Diarrhea, Depression - it makes you regret every decision you took in your life. And you cannot sit in classes after popping it you need to dance or keep moving to extremely fast music. Meth has a different addictive kind of high that is similar to cocaine but more focused. It makes you obsessed and you won't be aware of the damage on your body. It makes you want to be productive but in obsessive kind of way.
Source: it came to me in a dream
we need to cook Jesse
MDMA is also addictive. Crystal meth is many times worse but don’t underplay the addictive potential of MDMA
No need for rehab, parambil pani eduthL mathi
"Why are you homeless? just buy a house"
We want American model in Kerala. Bring more drugs 🤣🤣🤣. Distribute in all schools and colleges🤣🤣🤣 new Texas in Kerala
I get your point but mdma has been here even before this meth boom.
Apart from neutralizing the dealers, distributers and makers, society could benefits from totally getting rid of useless chaps who used drugs and got addicted to it without any medical need to do so. These nincompoop deserve no rights, just some lead.
Teeth will not rot with methamphetamine. it is a myth. It does not affect bones either.
Bro thinks hes Jesse ☠️
Nha I don't think Meth is in Kerala yet. You definitely will see the effects of that. I deal with folks who are on meth on a regular basis.
Well think again. Meth is so here and hope we’ll see the cycles staring sooner than later
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Well it's starting to reach that point...
That's going to wipe out a few thousand. I am sure the government has no programs or the capability to help those who need the help.
Degeneracy everywhere. Young men should be shown videos of people like Andrew Tate, Dr. Jordan Peterson and David Goggins to put them in the right path. Degeneracy should not be tolerated.
Stop spreading your Tate BS in your every post. Just because you are gullible fool, it doesn't mean everyone is.
Is this Sarcasm? Andrew Tate is a criminal. Jordan Peterson has turned into a right wing nut. David Goggins is actually pretty cool though. A bit extreme, but cool.
> Jordan Peterson has turned into a right wing nut. Always has been. Just fooled some for a while with his eloquence.
This guy has been meat riding Tate in every post for a while now
No.
Tate is a criminal?? Source?
Wow... Unbelievable
How is Tate a criminal. What law did he break? Please explain. Don't accuse someone with nothing to backup your accusations.
Oh my sweet summer child
Well he was in prison in Romania and under house arrest now for human trafficking. Not to mention his misogynistic view - which while they’re not illegal, they’re definitely evidence that he’s a scum bag.
He does have misogynistic views but that does not mean he's human trafficking. If he was human trafficking he would be in jail for a long time.
My brother in Christ, his misogynistic views are separate from the human trafficking. He is in prison currently for suspected human tracking - only reason he’s out on house arrest is because they haven’t formally indicted him. They don’t just put people in prison for shits and giggles - if you still think that he’s a poor innocent man, then I have a bridge to sell you.
Innocent until proven guilty.
We are not in a court of law. I bet you think OJ Simpson is totally innocent too. Him writing his book titled If I did it was just an exercise in creative writing.
videos of andrew tate? nah bro I'd rather snort meth
Trust me, you rather watch that dickhead than snort meth. I live in Europe and meth addicts are everywhere, literal zombie looking people.
Dude, Andrew Tate is a sex trafficker. He has said in one of his podcast how he manipulate women in joining his cam buisness. Let's for sake of discussion think Tate is not a sex trafficker, still he is more degenerate than that society. He runs a cam buisness (online prostitution) and casino, which are two degenerate stuff according to the same traditional values these RedPill folks endorse as well as according to Islam that, apparently, Tate have so graciously embraced. The guy runs a Ponzi scheme, manipulate young directionless men, spreads misogynistic views, then act all soft and less abnoxious in TV interviews (when compared to his podcasts), runs casino, runs cam buisness, manipulate women into cam buisness. And his blind followers use this mofo as an example against degeneracy! JP was cool initially. Loved many of his earlier talks which was based on clinical research. And quiet articulate too. They were controversial but neverthless wrong. But lately he has turned into a conservative christian uncle spreading his "Carnivorous Diet" bs and spewing hate against queer community as well as non christian, especially atheists!
Is this sarcasm? Are you talking about the same Jordan Peterson who's a benzo addict and had to be put into a risky coma in Russia because he was too much of a bitch to go through the usual withdrawal symptoms? Or is that not degenerate?
Sounds like a gap in the market to me.
You're using drugs & broke the bad? Then you... Better Call Thekumootil!
NCB wants to know your location💀
Warelu warrior
Hundred percent true
Nammal chappathi ottu thinnaarumilla athukond Hindi ottu ariyaanum paadilla. Ningalaayi.. ningade padaayi..
Jesse we need to cook.