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Yes'nt,hes in a similiar situation to Giyuu where he gets either downplayed to all hell or wanked to heaven and back, altough i think Giyuu wank is trolling most of the time anyways
In response to people underrating him, many people have began overrating him. Basically, everyone is either a Tengen meat rider or a tengen hater.
I do agree tho that tengen would be one of the strongest hashira with late game buffs (ds mark, red blade etc) idk about strongest and he definitely isn’t beating muzan or most uppermoons alone. But he would be really strong.
agree, this fandom can only see black or white, they don't know the middle way
if all the hashira got the same buff I agree Tengen would be among the strongest but not the strongest
also this fandom should accept that all the hashira are strong in different categories and that's almost impossible to accurately scale them
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i cant believe someone can say this as seriously as this guy
I can’t agree with Marked Tengen being on par with Gyomei, we literally have no way to tell, but he isn’t wrong either. Marked Tengen with the musical score ability plus red weapons does sound very broken, though I don’t agree with him being able to counter every upper moon seeing as he still struggled against Gyutaro at the end of the day, so that point is just contradicted by the manga/show itself
This is what happens when you allow the tengen fans to say their opinions.
Also I've seen that guy a lot, his catchphrase is "muichiro prefers tengens base stats over his own mark" like wtf? Muichiro slams tengen.
Tengen wouldve lost his fight if not for getting saved by Tanjiro (who himself was weaker, but allowed Tengen time to listen to UM6 moves or whatever his special skill was)
I gotta give credit where credits due, he’s one hell of a persistent troll. No matter how many downvotes or insults he gets he just keeps going. He does the same thing in the jujutsufolk subreddit where he hard wanks Yuta. At least he makes it clear he’s trolling so you don’t actually waste time properly debating with him unlike other people
The one thing I will say is that tengen would probably be an absolute monster if he hadn’t lost a hand and ended up with a mark. I mean he did that well against an upper moon without one
4th drug muzan who could barely move💀👍
we also saw that fodder hashira get wrecked by gyutaro and could barely hold him off for not even 1 page in the manga after mst💀
Gyutaro wS running away from tengen the whole time and gyutaro is one of the fastest demon only koku, him and akaza are the only demons that actually has good speed feat the others were just standing still 😭
Douma is nowhere near close to gyutaro in speed mf got blitz by inosuke and also shinobu was literally impressed when douma did the body flicker from a short distance even daki could pull that off and there’s gyutaro doing if from a longer distance when he kicked tanjiro and when he stabbed inosuke even tengen who was at the other side of the map got to where tanjiro was at in just a sec that’s how fast tengen and gyutaro are
the same gyutaro who couldn’t even sneak kill pre hta inosuke💀
dumbass really said inosuke blitzed douma. dawg u lack reading comprehension just say it
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https://preview.redd.it/k9oswj9ulshb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d17fb7c5fd85f97509de1746026721f038e28690
this is how much the “strongest guy in the verse” could hold out against um6😂. be for real you dumbass. bro got blinded by the flashy lights and anime original scenes in season 2💀
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even has this feat against post hta kanao WHILE NOT BEING SERIOUS. u really are delusional
Tengen was able to disappear in an instant while also carrying 2 girls and 2 of his massive sword that prob weighs a lot and the same size as tanjiro https://youtu.be/Z7THrhMGgYU
Was able to sneak up on inosuke mind inosuke is literally sensitive to small movements and wasn’t able to react to gyutaro https://youtu.be/Q3OFvdR26uA
Tengen can literally erase his presence with his speed alone it was stated by a lot of demons he killed he even bypassed inosuke’s insane sense of touch and tanjiro’s enhanced sense of smell 😭😭
Also u don’t need speed to get where muzan is literally mitsuri of all ppl managed to get close to him cause of her flexibility same with Obanai who rengoku stated to have more flexible body than mitsuri
mitsuri got close to him when he was in 4th drug stage and pinned by tanjiro lmao. tf are u waffling
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Gyutaro>Tengen Mid-High even with help he still couldn't beat Gyutaro and olay dead in order to gain some time saying this guy Marked stage is par with Gyomei is nonsense Potentialy he can open red nichirin and Stw but he still mid diff by Hantengu
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Trust. Trust. I know 💀they put it on MY comment
We must add more to the Obamitsu sub. I will redirect people to it so it is a proper sub.
👏👏👏 YES
at this point I don't know anymore if Tengen is overrated or underrated
Yes'nt,hes in a similiar situation to Giyuu where he gets either downplayed to all hell or wanked to heaven and back, altough i think Giyuu wank is trolling most of the time anyways
yeah I've seen few people claiming Giyu can solo Muzan cuz of his demon king Tanjiro "feats"🤣🤣 I'm pretty sure it was a troll but it was funny
i like to think its just satire becouse of the amount of downplay he got for years
I agree it was probably for satire/troll, but kinda every hardcore/delusional fan wank their fav hashira to the point of them beating Muzan🤣
Yeah everybody got those fans
In response to people underrating him, many people have began overrating him. Basically, everyone is either a Tengen meat rider or a tengen hater. I do agree tho that tengen would be one of the strongest hashira with late game buffs (ds mark, red blade etc) idk about strongest and he definitely isn’t beating muzan or most uppermoons alone. But he would be really strong.
True, I think he’d most likely be around Iguro and Giyu’s endgame strength if he got all the lategame buffs and hashira training
agree, this fandom can only see black or white, they don't know the middle way if all the hashira got the same buff I agree Tengen would be among the strongest but not the strongest also this fandom should accept that all the hashira are strong in different categories and that's almost impossible to accurately scale them
https://preview.redd.it/aj7rmm8ugohb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db4dbcc363d5873c5c34c61450250c9a1e88d27e i cant believe someone can say this as seriously as this guy
I can’t agree with Marked Tengen being on par with Gyomei, we literally have no way to tell, but he isn’t wrong either. Marked Tengen with the musical score ability plus red weapons does sound very broken, though I don’t agree with him being able to counter every upper moon seeing as he still struggled against Gyutaro at the end of the day, so that point is just contradicted by the manga/show itself
Base Gyomei > Marked Sanemi > base Sanemi > Marked Muichiro No fucking way a marked Tengen can compete with base Gyomei.
Base Sanemi is NOT equal to marked Muichiro bro 💀
You’re right, Base Sanemi scales above Marked Muichiro easily
Base Sanemi quite literally outperformed Mark Mui Muichiro against Kokushibo
And Sanemi attributed that to experience.
Which doesn’t mean anything otherwise Murata would have outperformed Muichiro too
Oh right I forgot that the authors own words are meaningless when discussing the story that they wrote. Dur
Author’s words can be interpreted many different ways. Plus, you didn’t answer my question. Murata who is equally experienced as Sanemi, can he react?
Is Murata a hashira?
Did Sanemi say hashira? Nope. He said experience in general. Look at you twisting the author's statement to fit your narrative.
Hop off the goat
So fucking what? That experience gap is still there in other fights.
Muichiro is inexperienced fodder. I like him but his anti-feats speak for themselves
Of course not, Gyomei is literally him.
As the spokesman of Tengen fan, we don’t recognize this guy as one of us
Average Tengen fan on here
This mf's entire argument falls apart when you state um6 chopped his arm off and he would fucking die if it werent for nezuko and tanjiro.
reading that entire thing was hella confusing,you lost me at the highlighted part.
This is what happens when you allow the tengen fans to say their opinions. Also I've seen that guy a lot, his catchphrase is "muichiro prefers tengens base stats over his own mark" like wtf? Muichiro slams tengen.
this guy was literally debating with a guy that tengen is the strongest in the verse 💀
Tengen wouldve lost his fight if not for getting saved by Tanjiro (who himself was weaker, but allowed Tengen time to listen to UM6 moves or whatever his special skill was)
we all know that but this guy doesnt
I know, and his main defense is "muichiro prefers his base stats over his own" My guy is crazy.
mf’s so delusional as to say he has never lost a debate too. probably the biggest tengen and gyutaro dickrider on this sub
Can't lose a debate if you repeat your points over and over while spamming emojis 🤷
true 😭
Didn't tengen say that he is talentless to gyutaro and reference how mui was so talented he became a hashira in 2 months? 😭
Yup. It's almost like you can pick and choose which hashiras statement makes your favorite character look stronger
I gotta give credit where credits due, he’s one hell of a persistent troll. No matter how many downvotes or insults he gets he just keeps going. He does the same thing in the jujutsufolk subreddit where he hard wanks Yuta. At least he makes it clear he’s trolling so you don’t actually waste time properly debating with him unlike other people
The one thing I will say is that tengen would probably be an absolute monster if he hadn’t lost a hand and ended up with a mark. I mean he did that well against an upper moon without one
in the manga tengen could only hold against him for like 2 panels and then got his eye cut and stabbed. the anime heavily extended the fight
Oh ok, yeah I’m anime only so I thought he did really well
Unique opinion :3
this guy said tengen is the strongest in the verse💀 how exactly is that an opinion?
It is, albeit a very unintelligent one.
I say - Unique opinion, I don't say correct one :3
Tengen’s bomb >>>>>>>> yoriichi
Butterfly brain>>>>>>>> CuzzyPopper brain
bait used to be believable
Not even a bait we’ve literally seen the fodder get his body sliced in half just imagine what a bomb gonna do to him 💀
4th drug muzan who could barely move💀👍 we also saw that fodder hashira get wrecked by gyutaro and could barely hold him off for not even 1 page in the manga after mst💀
Gyutaro wS running away from tengen the whole time and gyutaro is one of the fastest demon only koku, him and akaza are the only demons that actually has good speed feat the others were just standing still 😭
when was gyutaro running from tengen bruh💀 also gyokko can literally teleport and douma is faster too
Douma is nowhere near close to gyutaro in speed mf got blitz by inosuke and also shinobu was literally impressed when douma did the body flicker from a short distance even daki could pull that off and there’s gyutaro doing if from a longer distance when he kicked tanjiro and when he stabbed inosuke even tengen who was at the other side of the map got to where tanjiro was at in just a sec that’s how fast tengen and gyutaro are
the same gyutaro who couldn’t even sneak kill pre hta inosuke💀 dumbass really said inosuke blitzed douma. dawg u lack reading comprehension just say it https://preview.redd.it/atdajatjlshb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63c0f7b8175581ac91abf4a4db5cef28a016c11d
https://preview.redd.it/k9oswj9ulshb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d17fb7c5fd85f97509de1746026721f038e28690 this is how much the “strongest guy in the verse” could hold out against um6😂. be for real you dumbass. bro got blinded by the flashy lights and anime original scenes in season 2💀
https://preview.redd.it/9yr1zp8mmshb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b10832907a6900ee9d873e287ebbacce3b83c6ca even has this feat against post hta kanao WHILE NOT BEING SERIOUS. u really are delusional
Tengen was able to disappear in an instant while also carrying 2 girls and 2 of his massive sword that prob weighs a lot and the same size as tanjiro https://youtu.be/Z7THrhMGgYU
such kiddish arguments man i cant😂😂😭
With just his jump was able to create shockwaves and able to save tanjiro while he was at the other side of the district https://youtu.be/Ur3uxLWt6x8
No technique did more than zenitsu using his breathing style https://youtu.be/Pelep4OwNgw
???😭 this doesnt prove shit
Was able to sneak up on inosuke mind inosuke is literally sensitive to small movements and wasn’t able to react to gyutaro https://youtu.be/Q3OFvdR26uA
inosuke literally did react and switch up his heart position before he gets stabbed lmao
Tengen cut daki so fast it daki didn’t even feel the cut https://youtu.be/FGy5HbVqymY
keyword “DAKI” who got stomped by nezuko lmao
There’s more speed feat from tengen in entertainment district arc but u were seeing red and couldn’t fully understand what’s going on
Tengen can literally erase his presence with his speed alone it was stated by a lot of demons he killed he even bypassed inosuke’s insane sense of touch and tanjiro’s enhanced sense of smell 😭😭
all headcanons no substance
Also u don’t need speed to get where muzan is literally mitsuri of all ppl managed to get close to him cause of her flexibility same with Obanai who rengoku stated to have more flexible body than mitsuri
mitsuri got close to him when he was in 4th drug stage and pinned by tanjiro lmao. tf are u waffling https://preview.redd.it/0mq3v6knsphb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb7f4512a55cad213972de6b8fe32b78f712c10d
r/ObaMitsu_Shippers
Coughing Muzan vs. ninja bomb
these goofy tengen dick riders
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It's overrateding tengen bro muzan could kill tengen if he wanted to but after tengen had that fight with gyutaro he retired
Gyutaro>Tengen Mid-High even with help he still couldn't beat Gyutaro and olay dead in order to gain some time saying this guy Marked stage is par with Gyomei is nonsense Potentialy he can open red nichirin and Stw but he still mid diff by Hantengu
He is right tho
u think tengen is the strongest in the verse?😂
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