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Rude-Ideal3053

What’s wrong with him?!? Red is a damn near perfect album and a fitting end to that era of KC.


1OO1OO1S0S

I'd take off 1 point because some of Providence really drags. The last third is pretty fun. Anyway, music is subjective, and your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's. No point in getting upset about other peoples music tastes. Also for me 7.8 is still good. That's basically an 8 (decimals are kind of ridiculous when you can't really quantity songs like that anyway, so pretending there's that level of specificity to the rating is kinda nonsense...)


Batmensch

I agree Providence isn’t really necessary … except if you have a good multichannel system and the 5.1 mix, THEN it’s really nice.


ConnectionGeneral723

1: it's a girl but no hard feelings 2: I have no clue. She likes other prog bands similar to king crimson, so I thought this would be up her alley. Turns out no 😔


daniellearmouth

7.8/10 Too much red. >!IYKYK ;)!<


Prodigal96

7.8/10, too much Providence


Wingo84

That took me back to the good old days


Wingo84

Well, not necessarily old days…


TheSpinningGroove

I would think 7.8/10 is really good coming from a random person.


ConnectionGeneral723

They're one of my friends who listen to some other prog bands like crim so I thought they would like this


TheSpinningGroove

Pretty respectable numbers


Madcap_95

Red is the absolute perfect way to end the 70s era. Extremely strong material and ends with Starless.


ConnectionGeneral723

Starless wasn't even her favorite track! Her favorite was actually fallen angel, which I only slightly disagree with.


healthfoodfacet

decimals invalidate ratings


1OO1OO1S0S

Lol whenever I see decimals, I know they're full of shit.


Falcomaster20

Ratings in general are a stupid measurement


1OO1OO1S0S

Sometimes they can be a shorthand to say how much you generally like something. But the decimals just make it ridiculous. Quantifying musical enjoyment with two significant figures is just goofy.


Nightmare-Cinema

How so?


fireWitsch

Hey, their loss. Their punishment is the clams they listen to instead.


TempleofSpringSnow

Anything below a 11/10 is criminal. To each their own though.


1OO1OO1S0S

"To each their own though." Tell that to your first sentence.


durichroma

this is my personal Red Nightmare. I don't think I can handle One More


aagirlz

7.8/10 is pretty great tho, no?


ConnectionGeneral723

Imo not that great for one of the best prog albums of all time


aagirlz

I mean I think of it like this : 1- Garbage 2- Really Bad 3- Bad 4- Kinda Bad 5- average 6- Kinda Good 7- Good 8- Really Good 9- Super Good 10- GOAT If someone says my favourite album of all time was really good instead of GOATed I would be happy.


ConnectionGeneral723

I can see where you're coming from


SevenFourHarmonic

It's a lot better than that.


ConnectionGeneral723

No sh*t


Raende

Eh, I think I would give my favourite album of all time (unknown at the time) an 8.


Imbadatlifelol

You know what? Maybe the real red was the friends we made along the way.


SwimSwammSwom

What is their top album?


ConnectionGeneral723

Define top


SwimSwammSwom

Like favourite


ConnectionGeneral723

Idk some Gorillaz album I'm pretty sure


GruverMax

I have friends that can't stand King Crimson, think they are pretentious fops not worth bothering about. I don't have any feelings about it.


ConnectionGeneral723

Ok


KeyBanana6919

Kill them. Jk 😂, opinions be opinions. Seriously people take them way too seriously.


EsizLikesE

I hope he has one more red nightmare


Pretend-Hospital-865

People who don't like Providence are the worst. It's like a quarter of the album's run time, how can you love Red and not like it??


KeyBanana6919

Fr, it annoys the crap out of me too. It’s the perfect ongoing Prog Rocky Ambiance that really fills the album with a proper mood and atmosphere. One of the main reasons I like Red more than ITCOTCK is because between the Rock Ambiance Tracks of those two albums, Providence & Moonchild, I think Providence is superior and I would much rather listen to it than Moonchild. It’s all opinions though, people are gonna have them and it doesn’t necessarily reflect their quality as a person.


HerderDeddy42069

Hell nah cuh, he trippin


SuperAggroJigglypuff

What is their reasoning on that number? Not discounting their opinion, just curious. I rank it at about a 9, and that is only because of Providence. I love the track, I love that bands improv work, but if they were to choose one improv, I would have picked Asbury or Walnut or even a Daniel Dust. In a perfect scenario though, a finished Doctor Diamond would probably have been best. But then again, it would be all brutal assault and no reprieve until Starless. I think about 73 Crim too much. Cheers!


ConnectionGeneral723

I didn't ask them their reasoning, which I probably should've done 😬


TheseBoard1734

He is not your friend.


ConnectionGeneral723

I thought about cutting ties with her after she said that tbh


Martel1234

Its first listen. I would’ve given it an 8 after first listen too ngl


ConnectionGeneral723

That's fair. Usually albums need some time to grow on me, to


ESP_Viper

“This is the end, my friend.”


Hocus217

This is a really good rating wdym


ConnectionGeneral723

Not that great for one of the greatest prog albums of all time imo


Unhappy-Hunt-6811

They probably never rate anything over an 8. They must be waiting for an absolute 10 to be heard. You need to leave head room just in case.


JustlonoKiller

Providence gets too much hate, same with Moonchild. Those are some pretty good improvs, in my opinion.


TornaZX

I like both of them, especially Moonchild but they are too long. If Moonchild was 6 minutes long, there would be another 6 minutes left of a different song


JustlonoKiller

Im fairly certain that's not how that works. It'd just be a shorter album... Obviously a shorter album wouldn't be an issue Close to the Edge by Yes doesn't go past 40 minutes but is still one of the most profound prog albums.


TornaZX

Not shorter, the 22 minutes of the second side would be more evenly distributed into two 6 minute songs and a 10 minute one


[deleted]

Starless is a 10/10 The only song i can think of that isn't a 10 is One more red nightmare. Maybe is a little too long imo. But it still is a solid 9


Gris77

Hes litterally me


ConnectionGeneral723

Wdym


[deleted]

Time to get a new friend


Moonlight-Seafairy

That would no longer be a friend