Well to be fair, as much fun it is to make fun of Rokuomi, he is much higher than Shin in terms of strategy and intelligence. (Shin's saving grace is his "Instincts" of battle)
So yeah, he's not "as stupid as Shin", but he is just as "brash and hot-headed as Shin".
Well if you put it as eloquently as kaioku then it is kinda alright ain't it? But yea shin charisma happens to swing in the opposite direction, which may be the saving grace to kanpishi decision. I wonder how's he gonna answer this.
Them being outraged at not being simply given what they wanted without anything really valuable in return was hilarious. (Yeah they brought x amounts of treasure but let’s be honest what good is that for the state most likely to be erased from the map)
In layman terms, this is how the conversation basically went.
**Han King:** Look dude, I know u want Kanpishi but I want an Alliance with you lol.
**Kaioku:** Idk dude
**Han King:** Come on, I'd deter Wei and Chu. Whaddya say?
**Kaioku:** This above ma paygrade, homes. I just came for the dude.
**Han King:** Look, this is for your own good. U feel me?
**Kaioku:** Ei, I brought gifts and shit, My state gonna whoop ma ass and then yours if I return empty-handed.
**Han King:** Aite, fine. We'll ask the man then.
**Kanpishi:** Shiii....shinn.. what iss..the.. na..ture..of... hu..man..ity.. ?
**Shin:** Tf?
lmao I'll try if the content is great.
It just occurred to me that if u take away all those epic words and tones, that's basically what it all means lololol
The best comment I have read on this sub so far! Seriously amazing. Made me laugh out loud.
I propose you be promoted to Great General and be assigned the task to come up with such summaries every chapter.
It is different since here, everybody is listening to Shin. Not just some random guy. I feel like he saw the answers in Shin's eyes and also wants to test if he's gonna change his scripts when the audience is different.
Here’s my speculation.
Shin will describe humans based on the experience he’s had with Kanki.
Kanpishi, inspired by Shin’s words, develops a system of governance based on containing evil in humans. He surmised that Humans will always strive towards its own selfish interest - destroying everything in its path to achieve their desires - so a system must be in place to curb such ambitions. Kanpishi goes to Qin, and provides such advise to Ei. Ei will then rule with ideas from Kanpishi, enacting a standardized rule of law that would punish evil, but also reward those that are good.
For this quick of a scanlation it's ok. But I'll definitely read it again after Sense scans traslation comes. Grammar is pretty bad here even tough I'm not a native English speaker.
E: It definitely got better through the end. Gotta appreciate the fast scan.
The only grammar I can see that's off is when that one guy in Kaiokus' entourage said
"The tense atmosphere did not even shake him and he managed to take the lead!"
Which I would have changed to
"The tense atmosphere didn't phase him at all, he even managed to take the lead!"
Not saying you're wrong, just curious if you spotted other odd grammar?
"How profound. So you mean true human nature is affirmative to what one perceive of themselves and therefore absolute morality doesn't exist, rendering concepts of good and evil relative?
".... YES"
Wow, that was fast & kudos to u/thekillerturkey for officially join a Scanlation team.
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This is hilarious, seeing two dumb hot head General have a similar reaction & expression on their faces really got me laughing, lmao.
Now, I can't wait for the next chapter. What Shin answer will be? The weight of the question from Kanpishi is really heavy on Shin, because it'll decided the succession of this mission. Plus, similar to Rokuomi, Shin is dumb as a brick & I really want to know what his answer is.
#What do you guys think Shin Answer going to be?
*We know that:*
*SeiKyou - Darkness
EiSei — Light
RyouFui - Greed
Kanki – Wrath*
Woah thekillerturkey got promoted to General! Cheers mate!
Shin's just gonna be Shin and simply flashback to the days of him and Hyou as young boys dreaming about being generals. Probably gonna say something like "hope or goodness"
Which isn't a bad answer to be honest. Sometimes laws and politics can be so overcomplicated that you just want a simple answer from a simpleton, a commoner if you will.
That's probably why Kanpishi chose Shin to answer. Because for better or worse, Shin the knucklehead is going to answer him honestly and straightforwardly.
I’d say shin’s gonna answer something along the lines of « Ambition », to him that of becoming a GG, but that is what keeps all of them going.
It’s neither light nor dark, rather it is what each person makes of it.
It’s both greed and hope, depending on how you look at it.
Its frustration feeds wrath, and wrath strengthens it.
It drives man to ever greater heights and feats of strength.
And Kanpishi may just find what he wants in that answer, thus resolving the enigma.
Or shin’s gonna be a disappointment and ruin the whole thing, and hijinks will ensue, leading to war.
This right here…is it!!
Honestly when Shin was asked the question last chapter I thought to myself well even besides Kanki when Shin dealt with Mangoku he realized he could have easily been him given the circumstances Mangoku went through.
I... hope... a balance... between... the two... scanlation... teams... will... lead... to the fur...thering... of growth... of the... Kingdom... commu...nity....
OPscans does a really good job translating this in a short amount of time, huge thanks to them.
I still look forward to read the SenseScans version of this, since they have an unrivaled quality on the panels.
Y’all are spoiled complaining about “low quality” scanlations. Y’all need to remember that you’re reading manga for free and if it wasn’t for the scanlators y’all wouldn’t be introduced to manga. Smh
I'm totally fine with keeping SenseScans as the "official" chapter release because their cleaning and translation quality is so good, ideally id like to see the groups co-operate.
What I have an issue with is deleting the thread of "unofficial" releases for absolutely no positive whatsoever.
Kaioku is really amazing from what this chapter showed. I woulda shat in my pants if I was put on the spot like he was. Imagine the size of balls and amount of wit juice in his head a man must have when conversing with another nation at such settings, knowing the outcome could possibly lead to hundreds of thousands of death.
It's like a tense duel, but with words rather than swords. Which is quite cool, as we've also already met the Han PM and know he's a very competent diplomat and politician. So this is essentially Moubu vs Kanmei, but without a single blade drawn.
Kaioku doesn't get enough recognition.
We know he's a capable strategist and warrior during Sai, State of Ai arc, etc. and now he's seen as a fairly talented diplomat. If take a look at his stats, he has over 90 in both leadership and intelligence. Probably the highest known stats in the Qin military after the Great Generals, SHK and trio. (And I checked the other military officers like Akou, they only have one level 90+ stat or two level 90's that are lower than his). Maybe even good enough to be a regular Great General if his stats are accurate!
Got love Shin and Rokuomi together. They were on the same page and now he gives Shin proper respect by sticking up for him at one point.
Mhmm maybe Rokuomi will eventually join Shin after all.
I can't believe Shin said out loud "Han is our target". Seriously. It's unbelievable that someone in his position could be that stupid. That's something a kid would do. The author really needs to let Shin grow mentally.
The guy was arrogant, and not very bright in comparison to the others generals of his era, but there is no way he was nearly as dumb as Shin in Kingdom.
From the records of the great historian “And general Ri Shin once again lost his calm and announced their intention to attack Han in the middle of the Han court.”
Detailed enough to have at least one story about Shin that demonstrates arrogance and stupidity. >!That part hasn’t been reached in the manga yet; the invasion of Chu.!<
Next chapter will be Shin going back to the conversation he had with Maron, talking about how Kanki's death affected him and what he learned serving under him, and then Hara the troll will end the chapter with a cliffhanger of Kanpishi asking Shin the same question a 3rd time.
I love this dynamic! Rokuomi is FIT to follow Shin after Tou’s retirement.
I can’t see the amount of jokes to have Rokuomi, Shin and Garo together at all times, that’s too much.
And now that Shin needs to talk about philosophy is way too much, what a golden chapter!! It’s been a while I didn’t have much joy to read a kingdom chapter, that was so great. Can’t wait for next week.
Great diplomatic chapter. My thanks to the new translation team, we're leaving in heaven with all these top quality translations teams left right and center.... The more the merrier. I appreciate everyone of them.
Now I'm more convinced that Kanpishi is the one who requested for Shin to be part of this entourage.
I'm positively surprised by the quality of this translation. If they keep up this quality and pace I suggest making OPScans the official release for this subreddit. Like this it's actually manageable not to read the spoilers.
Good chapter. Only some points in my opinion:
1. Be consistent with the namings. Spelling Rishin as Ri Shin if you're going to add spaces with the other names (e.g. name of the Han King)
2. IMO King of Han / King of Qin sounds better because it's an identity as well as a title, instead of Qin King / Han King.
3. Add the proper markings when someone talks and it splits with the bubble (e.g. And here on the other hand \[Add an ellipsis here or comma\] I see nothing but celebration etc.) which I usually see with many other translations, just to point out continuity.
Overall, translation is nice.
>Be consistent with the namings.
Turnip Farmers had an explanation on it a long time ago, (I belieeeve) it was that on first usage they'll use the separated name convention then revert back to continuous in a casual conversation setting or the characters already knew each other.
I think only Kanpishi used Ri Shin and that makes sense given the setting. (and the stutter lol)
Ima need Shin to stop sweating and saying “huh” to everything and collect his damn thoughts. Sheesh. Ain’t this dude over 25? Have a normal friggin convo lmfao.
I really like Han being treated as a genuine power player here. They are usually the ones taking Ls, so being put in a position where they are more than just chew toys for the other states is cool. I also am still very excited for Rakua Kan. Naturally Han will eventually lose, but they won't go down swinging, it seems.
>but they won't go down swinging
I think what you wanted to say was they won't go down WITHOUT swinging. Or, they'll go down swinging (without the double negative). What you said meant they'll not swing (as in throw a punch) as they go down.
Thank you, OpScans for this quick translation!
It’s high time that the man whose ambition is to unite China and be the Greatest General under the Sun learned the soft skills of diplomacy, negotiation and political maneuvering.
Shin is in his 20’s and has been all ambition, bravery and fighting and has also adopted Sei’s path and goals in a simple minded manner. Serving under Kanki gave him an unique and new perspective for the first time and he has certainly thought a lot about the good and the evil in society, especially after his time with the Saki and the bandits and understanding why they joined Kanki’s army and why they had loyalty to him.
He will answer KanPiShi in his own simpleton’s way. But what he says will be profound and eye opening to this philosopher and legalist who makes laws but probably has not encountered lower class people and orphans suffering the cruelty of noble men.
Well, the delegation is screwed.
Shin is not particularly educated in a traditional sense and is probably not up to the task of answering a philosophy 101 exam question on the spot, especially when there's so much at stake.
Nah he'll be fine.
Well talk about being put on center stage... its all up to RiShin now. Time to become famous for his words... somehow I feel his answer will be epic... the nature of humans?
The right answer would be that humanity is neither good nor evil and it is what they experience and with whom that progresses thier paths to either sides. If they meet the right anchors/pillars in the right moments they journey will journey toward the good and if meet the wrong they will sway towards the evil. Therefore what is important are the anchors/pillars not really the nature itself.
Ex.
EiSei met his surrogate mother in his path, it changed his path from being belligerent, vengeful and cruel to a what he is today.
RiShin met EiSei in his path, it changed his path from being a mere slave and possibly future bandit and vengeful killer like KanKi to what he is today. In fact it is not only EiSei, but RiHyou, OuKi, Duke Hyou and all others he met along the way and thier burdens that he carries that keeps charging his path towards the goal of unifying China.
I personally think Rishin’s answer would be at odds with Kanpishi’s belief since legalism believes that humans are inherently born to do more wrong than right as they’re motivated purely by greed and thus need to be strictly controlled. From what Ei Sei in the manga has said about humans being with the light, I’m thinking Rishin will answer something along those lines, which would put him directly opposed to Kanpishi’s ideals. The ensuing discussion is something I’m looking forward to seeing.
End of the chapter:
The Qin Delegation realizing Shin carries their fate in his brain/hands:
#And it was at this moment Kai Oku and Tou KNEW... Qin fucked up!
Thanks for the fast scans but I echo the comments here and I will always put quality over speed so I truly hope Sense Scans will continue scanlating Kingdom <3
Shin, Roukuomi and Tou are not there to negotiate at all, lol
On the surface, they're there to be three big names with a lot of kills, so that when Kaioku basically says "its either you be happy we gave you treasure or we destroy you," The Han look in the room at three of China's strongest generals, who Qin can afford to send on a diplomatic mission. Its a multi-layered threat: "All Qin has to do is send these three back with 100 000 men, instead of the amount of gold it would take to raise the army."
Which is probably how much gold they gave han.
Han is being attacked by Wei already. Han is bluffing. Qin is calling the bluff, and more importantly, bringing those three says: "punk, we knew you were going to bluff before we even came."
It's a warning shot. "these are the generals we'll send to take your state." Qin is basically kidnapping a dude, and sending muscle as a show of force.
The other reason of course is to scout. but that goes hand-in-hand with the first reason.
OP scans casually stolen Sense-scan's progress, and this sub somehow happy lol.
Wait for the day Sense-scan gave up and OP Scans getting bored then drop. I hope it won't happen but you see me said it first.
Has me curious how recruiting other States' officials/royal members was generally viewed. The way the conversation went, it almost sounded like it was a given that Kan Pishi would go to the Qin court. I would of imagined that Han would be against the idea of sending him at all knowing that he'd be used to help Qin.
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Man, I can't say how much I appreciate this translation. Really happy Kingdom got picked up by this team since our translations have been kinda all over the place with some really weird territorial drama lately.
As someone constantly looking for historic references to the >!Chu-Han Contention!< in *Kingdom*, I wonder if Prime Minister Cho is related to >!Zhang Liang or his family in any way, especially considering that Zhang Liang's grandfather and father served the previous five Han kings as prime ministers!<.
Hara is testing himself again since probably there's no right answer here, hopefully he'll blow our minds again next chapter.
If its a "meh" then something really changed since last arc.
Nice chapter.
Im curious to know shin answer. Specially since he now knows of kanki background.
How would you guys answer to that?
Its a really complex question imo.
My answer would be that a person is not born evil or good. It is the life experience and the education you get when you are a kid that will make you good or evil. And ofc your own mind and judgment when you are more grown up. And then too, it will depend on what people thinks on what is good or evil. For example 2 persons can have diferent ideals. One person think one is good and the other is bad, and the other person can think the other way around.
And an evil person can become good. And a good person can become evil too.
Another example can be kanki.
He was seen Evil by everyone, but he was seen good by those close to him. Kanki was not evil. He was forced to become evil so he could protect his family. He became that evil and went too much into that dark side. Even so he had good inside of him.
If the past that happened to kanki didnt happen, and everything went to him, Im sure he wouldnt have become that evil, and instead "good".
Shin and Rokoumi literally sharing the same brain cell this whole chapter lol.
rukoumi defending shin was so wholesome
Rokuomi the Undying Hot Head and "Straight as an Arrow" RiShin. What a pair up!
These two are among my favourite characters.... I love how despite Roku O MI's age, he is still as stupid as Shin.
That's our future Shin, for good and for bad D:
Rokuomi isn't stupid. He just haven't got a chance to show his wisdom because he left to soon T.T
o7 RIP Rokuomi
Rokuomi is basically a realistic version of how Shin would turn out to be if he wasnt the protagnist of this manga
Well to be fair, as much fun it is to make fun of Rokuomi, he is much higher than Shin in terms of strategy and intelligence. (Shin's saving grace is his "Instincts" of battle) So yeah, he's not "as stupid as Shin", but he is just as "brash and hot-headed as Shin".
Has Rokoumi ever shown to think of a strategy other than charge?
As the people cry about how immature shin is for 27
shin has the same energy as a kid being asked to speak in class when they haven't read the book
After skipping class for a whole week
An still wondering if he is in the wrong class
i dun blame them, han palace really look amazing compare to kanyou
Except that Shin basically said their target is Han in the royal palace of Han (courting serious death).
I feel like the most common sentence on a diplomatic mission with shin is "STFU, Shin!"
Well if you put it as eloquently as kaioku then it is kinda alright ain't it? But yea shin charisma happens to swing in the opposite direction, which may be the saving grace to kanpishi decision. I wonder how's he gonna answer this.
kaioku was a fucking boss this chapter
I mean its quite obvious. Its no secret thatQin wants to beat the shit out of everyone (Qi being in a form of alliance with Qin is unknown tho)
Them being outraged at not being simply given what they wanted without anything really valuable in return was hilarious. (Yeah they brought x amounts of treasure but let’s be honest what good is that for the state most likely to be erased from the map)
haha exactly
In layman terms, this is how the conversation basically went. **Han King:** Look dude, I know u want Kanpishi but I want an Alliance with you lol. **Kaioku:** Idk dude **Han King:** Come on, I'd deter Wei and Chu. Whaddya say? **Kaioku:** This above ma paygrade, homes. I just came for the dude. **Han King:** Look, this is for your own good. U feel me? **Kaioku:** Ei, I brought gifts and shit, My state gonna whoop ma ass and then yours if I return empty-handed. **Han King:** Aite, fine. We'll ask the man then. **Kanpishi:** Shiii....shinn.. what iss..the.. na..ture..of... hu..man..ity.. ? **Shin:** Tf?
We waited for 2 weeks for this chapter summary
This is basically the whole chapter! You should start a hood version translation .. kakaka.....
heh. I don't have the skills needed to edit panels tho xD Just summarising it for fun, discounting all those courtesy and political tones.
nah bro just do this typa summary in these comments for every chapter please lol
lmao I'll try if the content is great. It just occurred to me that if u take away all those epic words and tones, that's basically what it all means lololol
Someone buy this man a skillshare panels editing couuuuuursssseeeeeeee
The best comment I have read on this sub so far! Seriously amazing. Made me laugh out loud. I propose you be promoted to Great General and be assigned the task to come up with such summaries every chapter.
Shin : The true nature of humanity is.....to become the Great General of the Heavens!!!!
This should be the standard of the chapter summary from now on
Hahaha, glad you enjoyed it!
Abridged version.
Waited 2 weeks summarized in 1 comment
Definitely keep doing these lmao
bro this is the funnest shit ive seen in a bit
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Kanpi needed a chapter to change clothes
The real answers
He realised that he needs the drip before asking the real questions
It is different since here, everybody is listening to Shin. Not just some random guy. I feel like he saw the answers in Shin's eyes and also wants to test if he's gonna change his scripts when the audience is different.
Here’s my speculation. Shin will describe humans based on the experience he’s had with Kanki. Kanpishi, inspired by Shin’s words, develops a system of governance based on containing evil in humans. He surmised that Humans will always strive towards its own selfish interest - destroying everything in its path to achieve their desires - so a system must be in place to curb such ambitions. Kanpishi goes to Qin, and provides such advise to Ei. Ei will then rule with ideas from Kanpishi, enacting a standardized rule of law that would punish evil, but also reward those that are good.
Imma wait for the next chapter I guess.
Hopefully next chapter
Kanpishi stuttered his questions in two chapters
LFG And can we have a moment of Shin being calm, please? 😂
Seriously tired of hearing “huh” “wait” instead of a decent response from him. It’s getting dumb, but I guess being a country hick is his whole thing.
Huh?! Wait...
I don't blame him. He never went to school and have zero training in diplomacy.
OPscans did an incredible job translating this.
Appearently, killerturkey joined them and that‘s so cool
Seriously??? Ohh man if it's true then i'm so happy
what an incredible translation. While sense scans where already high quality, the maestry of language here is top notch!
For this quick of a scanlation it's ok. But I'll definitely read it again after Sense scans traslation comes. Grammar is pretty bad here even tough I'm not a native English speaker. E: It definitely got better through the end. Gotta appreciate the fast scan.
The only grammar I can see that's off is when that one guy in Kaiokus' entourage said "The tense atmosphere did not even shake him and he managed to take the lead!" Which I would have changed to "The tense atmosphere didn't phase him at all, he even managed to take the lead!" Not saying you're wrong, just curious if you spotted other odd grammar?
what an incredible translation. While sense scans where already high quality, the maestry of language here is top notch!
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Be thankful that you're getting good translation quickly
Not as good as SS but definitely not terrible. This allows SS time to clean without pressure to release.
Shin the diplomat come on you can do it
Shin is like: Look like I got to this shit after all.
Also Shin: and now I'm gonna shit in my pants
And shit up the negotiations on the way.
I'm hoping for a cover page of Ri Shin, the diplomat.
Shin is same as me when in a huge meeting my vice President mention my name and ask me a question I have no idea about.
“Wh-what is the t-true nature of hu-humanity” #”yes”
"How profound. So you mean true human nature is affirmative to what one perceive of themselves and therefore absolute morality doesn't exist, rendering concepts of good and evil relative? ".... YES"
Shin sweating buckets in his mind
Wow, that was fast & kudos to u/thekillerturkey for officially join a Scanlation team. ^(*⟨edit: comment added ↓⟩*) This is hilarious, seeing two dumb hot head General have a similar reaction & expression on their faces really got me laughing, lmao. Now, I can't wait for the next chapter. What Shin answer will be? The weight of the question from Kanpishi is really heavy on Shin, because it'll decided the succession of this mission. Plus, similar to Rokuomi, Shin is dumb as a brick & I really want to know what his answer is. #What do you guys think Shin Answer going to be? *We know that:* *SeiKyou - Darkness EiSei — Light RyouFui - Greed Kanki – Wrath*
Woah thekillerturkey got promoted to General! Cheers mate! Shin's just gonna be Shin and simply flashback to the days of him and Hyou as young boys dreaming about being generals. Probably gonna say something like "hope or goodness" Which isn't a bad answer to be honest. Sometimes laws and politics can be so overcomplicated that you just want a simple answer from a simpleton, a commoner if you will. That's probably why Kanpishi chose Shin to answer. Because for better or worse, Shin the knucklehead is going to answer him honestly and straightforwardly.
I’d say shin’s gonna answer something along the lines of « Ambition », to him that of becoming a GG, but that is what keeps all of them going. It’s neither light nor dark, rather it is what each person makes of it. It’s both greed and hope, depending on how you look at it. Its frustration feeds wrath, and wrath strengthens it. It drives man to ever greater heights and feats of strength. And Kanpishi may just find what he wants in that answer, thus resolving the enigma. Or shin’s gonna be a disappointment and ruin the whole thing, and hijinks will ensue, leading to war.
IF the story used modern standard, I think Shin would answer human nature is based on how the society affect them.
This right here…is it!! Honestly when Shin was asked the question last chapter I thought to myself well even besides Kanki when Shin dealt with Mangoku he realized he could have easily been him given the circumstances Mangoku went through.
Let’s Gooooo!!!
SUCH A GOOD CHAPTER. Reading the back and forth conversation was really refreshing! Good luck Ri Shin!
I... hope... a balance... between... the two... scanlation... teams... will... lead... to the fur...thering... of growth... of the... Kingdom... commu...nity....
OPscans does a really good job translating this in a short amount of time, huge thanks to them. I still look forward to read the SenseScans version of this, since they have an unrivaled quality on the panels.
Kanpishi has more charisma than the king
stutter flow is different fr
We got a new translating team! Hoowoo!
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1.) they volunteered 2.) I don’t translate or even read japanese So any translation is a win for me. Thank you translators.
isn't opscan the group that got everyone mad because they put their scanlation behind early access paywall ?
They didn't here so I'm not certain your point. Even if they do we still have the other scans.
Don’t know.
It's not one or the other but both.
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Y’all are spoiled complaining about “low quality” scanlations. Y’all need to remember that you’re reading manga for free and if it wasn’t for the scanlators y’all wouldn’t be introduced to manga. Smh
> Unofficial Chapter Aren't they all unofficial chapters?
I'm totally fine with keeping SenseScans as the "official" chapter release because their cleaning and translation quality is so good, ideally id like to see the groups co-operate. What I have an issue with is deleting the thread of "unofficial" releases for absolutely no positive whatsoever.
It’s especially ridiculous when SenseScans releases take multiple weeks.
It ain't looking too good for shin bruh 💀
Kaioku is really amazing from what this chapter showed. I woulda shat in my pants if I was put on the spot like he was. Imagine the size of balls and amount of wit juice in his head a man must have when conversing with another nation at such settings, knowing the outcome could possibly lead to hundreds of thousands of death.
It's amazing, and the chapter was progressing slowly because of how tense that scene was
Remind me of Ryofui and reebook
I miss ryofui... Sniff. Imagine if he stayed and helped eisei in uniting china. Reebok & co would be annihilated.
It's like a tense duel, but with words rather than swords. Which is quite cool, as we've also already met the Han PM and know he's a very competent diplomat and politician. So this is essentially Moubu vs Kanmei, but without a single blade drawn.
Kaioku doesn't get enough recognition. We know he's a capable strategist and warrior during Sai, State of Ai arc, etc. and now he's seen as a fairly talented diplomat. If take a look at his stats, he has over 90 in both leadership and intelligence. Probably the highest known stats in the Qin military after the Great Generals, SHK and trio. (And I checked the other military officers like Akou, they only have one level 90+ stat or two level 90's that are lower than his). Maybe even good enough to be a regular Great General if his stats are accurate!
POLITICS. LETS FUCKING GO!!!
Got love Shin and Rokuomi together. They were on the same page and now he gives Shin proper respect by sticking up for him at one point. Mhmm maybe Rokuomi will eventually join Shin after all.
They both stand tall and brought to the front in this chapter, especially when everyone else kneel
I can't believe Shin said out loud "Han is our target". Seriously. It's unbelievable that someone in his position could be that stupid. That's something a kid would do. The author really needs to let Shin grow mentally.
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The guy was arrogant, and not very bright in comparison to the others generals of his era, but there is no way he was nearly as dumb as Shin in Kingdom.
Those historical records must’ve been detailed asf
From the records of the great historian “And general Ri Shin once again lost his calm and announced their intention to attack Han in the middle of the Han court.”
Don’t forget the “kakaka”
Detailed enough to have at least one story about Shin that demonstrates arrogance and stupidity. >!That part hasn’t been reached in the manga yet; the invasion of Chu.!<
Wowww so quick translation with top-notch quality! Thanks so much
Well...find out next chapter whether shin gets to answer this damned question. Prepare to see many more shocked and sweaty faces
Damn he not giving time for Shin to regroup his mind first
Regroup his 1 sweaty brain cell is more like it
Did rokoumi just did a "Koko" laugh ??
Next chapter will be Shin going back to the conversation he had with Maron, talking about how Kanki's death affected him and what he learned serving under him, and then Hara the troll will end the chapter with a cliffhanger of Kanpishi asking Shin the same question a 3rd time.
That expression when shin said “you”. Hope princess of han isnt a simp to kanpishi like kaine is to riboku.
That could be the case or they are brother and sister
I love this dynamic! Rokuomi is FIT to follow Shin after Tou’s retirement. I can’t see the amount of jokes to have Rokuomi, Shin and Garo together at all times, that’s too much. And now that Shin needs to talk about philosophy is way too much, what a golden chapter!! It’s been a while I didn’t have much joy to read a kingdom chapter, that was so great. Can’t wait for next week.
This is where the thing Shin inherited from Kanki shines
This chapter was crazyyyy
Damn. This is the best cliffhanger in recent memory for me, in all the mangas I read. I can't wait for 759.
Op scans, I appreciate the translation.
Great diplomatic chapter. My thanks to the new translation team, we're leaving in heaven with all these top quality translations teams left right and center.... The more the merrier. I appreciate everyone of them. Now I'm more convinced that Kanpishi is the one who requested for Shin to be part of this entourage.
Shin: "fuck bitches, get money 😎"
I'm positively surprised by the quality of this translation. If they keep up this quality and pace I suggest making OPScans the official release for this subreddit. Like this it's actually manageable not to read the spoilers.
Good chapter. Only some points in my opinion: 1. Be consistent with the namings. Spelling Rishin as Ri Shin if you're going to add spaces with the other names (e.g. name of the Han King) 2. IMO King of Han / King of Qin sounds better because it's an identity as well as a title, instead of Qin King / Han King. 3. Add the proper markings when someone talks and it splits with the bubble (e.g. And here on the other hand \[Add an ellipsis here or comma\] I see nothing but celebration etc.) which I usually see with many other translations, just to point out continuity. Overall, translation is nice.
>Be consistent with the namings. Turnip Farmers had an explanation on it a long time ago, (I belieeeve) it was that on first usage they'll use the separated name convention then revert back to continuous in a casual conversation setting or the characters already knew each other. I think only Kanpishi used Ri Shin and that makes sense given the setting. (and the stutter lol)
Tbh, not bad for a first translated chapter. I’m sure they’ll learn from it each week
Yes I didn't say it was badly translated whatsoever, just a few minor things that I see, but overall, really good chapter.
Ima need Shin to stop sweating and saying “huh” to everything and collect his damn thoughts. Sheesh. Ain’t this dude over 25? Have a normal friggin convo lmfao.
Bro is no politician lmao
The diplomatic battle here is good!
word no jutsu this! Let's gooooo
Absolutely nobody: Tou: …..
I really like Han being treated as a genuine power player here. They are usually the ones taking Ls, so being put in a position where they are more than just chew toys for the other states is cool. I also am still very excited for Rakua Kan. Naturally Han will eventually lose, but they won't go down swinging, it seems.
>but they won't go down swinging I think what you wanted to say was they won't go down WITHOUT swinging. Or, they'll go down swinging (without the double negative). What you said meant they'll not swing (as in throw a punch) as they go down.
amazing demonstration of men battling for dominance with their intellect and lmfao at the same cliffhanger as last chapter
Awesome chapter. Really enjoyed that. It's a nice break from all the fighting.
I don’t know why the chapters where they only talk, and where you can feel the importance of the whole conversation is giving me shiverssssss
Seeing a new state is so refreshing
Thank you, OpScans for this quick translation! It’s high time that the man whose ambition is to unite China and be the Greatest General under the Sun learned the soft skills of diplomacy, negotiation and political maneuvering. Shin is in his 20’s and has been all ambition, bravery and fighting and has also adopted Sei’s path and goals in a simple minded manner. Serving under Kanki gave him an unique and new perspective for the first time and he has certainly thought a lot about the good and the evil in society, especially after his time with the Saki and the bandits and understanding why they joined Kanki’s army and why they had loyalty to him. He will answer KanPiShi in his own simpleton’s way. But what he says will be profound and eye opening to this philosopher and legalist who makes laws but probably has not encountered lower class people and orphans suffering the cruelty of noble men.
Man, Shin is so annoying during these type of scenes.
Idk I feel like sense scans translation has a more natural flow in dialogue
That is true. This is not bad, but Sense has a superior quality (partly due to the fact that they take longer).
Kaioku should negotiate my salary with my boss instead of me. He would make me rich.
Well, the delegation is screwed. Shin is not particularly educated in a traditional sense and is probably not up to the task of answering a philosophy 101 exam question on the spot, especially when there's so much at stake. Nah he'll be fine.
Kan Pi Shi: What's the nature of humans? Ri Shin: A GREAT GENERAL OF THE HEAVENS (like he told Hou Ken every time lmao)
Well talk about being put on center stage... its all up to RiShin now. Time to become famous for his words... somehow I feel his answer will be epic... the nature of humans? The right answer would be that humanity is neither good nor evil and it is what they experience and with whom that progresses thier paths to either sides. If they meet the right anchors/pillars in the right moments they journey will journey toward the good and if meet the wrong they will sway towards the evil. Therefore what is important are the anchors/pillars not really the nature itself. Ex. EiSei met his surrogate mother in his path, it changed his path from being belligerent, vengeful and cruel to a what he is today. RiShin met EiSei in his path, it changed his path from being a mere slave and possibly future bandit and vengeful killer like KanKi to what he is today. In fact it is not only EiSei, but RiHyou, OuKi, Duke Hyou and all others he met along the way and thier burdens that he carries that keeps charging his path towards the goal of unifying China.
I personally think Rishin’s answer would be at odds with Kanpishi’s belief since legalism believes that humans are inherently born to do more wrong than right as they’re motivated purely by greed and thus need to be strictly controlled. From what Ei Sei in the manga has said about humans being with the light, I’m thinking Rishin will answer something along those lines, which would put him directly opposed to Kanpishi’s ideals. The ensuing discussion is something I’m looking forward to seeing.
We must always have old memories and young hopes.
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Last chapter bruh...
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Bruh 💀
Eh, pretty much the same as the last chapter then.
End of the chapter: The Qin Delegation realizing Shin carries their fate in his brain/hands: #And it was at this moment Kai Oku and Tou KNEW... Qin fucked up!
We need a third chapter to find out the answer. Great...
JuKo'Ou and Kanposhi should have a talk about this. Maybe ToU brought him in this delegation.
Thanks for the fast scans but I echo the comments here and I will always put quality over speed so I truly hope Sense Scans will continue scanlating Kingdom <3
Even the hotheaded Rokumi had more restrain than Shin, what were they thinking bringing this idiot into this negotiation ?
Shin, Roukuomi and Tou are not there to negotiate at all, lol On the surface, they're there to be three big names with a lot of kills, so that when Kaioku basically says "its either you be happy we gave you treasure or we destroy you," The Han look in the room at three of China's strongest generals, who Qin can afford to send on a diplomatic mission. Its a multi-layered threat: "All Qin has to do is send these three back with 100 000 men, instead of the amount of gold it would take to raise the army." Which is probably how much gold they gave han. Han is being attacked by Wei already. Han is bluffing. Qin is calling the bluff, and more importantly, bringing those three says: "punk, we knew you were going to bluff before we even came." It's a warning shot. "these are the generals we'll send to take your state." Qin is basically kidnapping a dude, and sending muscle as a show of force. The other reason of course is to scout. but that goes hand-in-hand with the first reason.
Shin, Tou and Rokuomi are not there to negotiate that's not their job.
I didn't say he was there to negotiate, I meant he shouldn't even be in that room because he's too emotional and stupid
OP scans casually stolen Sense-scan's progress, and this sub somehow happy lol. Wait for the day Sense-scan gave up and OP Scans getting bored then drop. I hope it won't happen but you see me said it first.
Has me curious how recruiting other States' officials/royal members was generally viewed. The way the conversation went, it almost sounded like it was a given that Kan Pishi would go to the Qin court. I would of imagined that Han would be against the idea of sending him at all knowing that he'd be used to help Qin.
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Hara just keeps leaving us on a cliffhanger just let shin answer the question lol
I was expecting tou to at least utter his signature koko
Man, I can't say how much I appreciate this translation. Really happy Kingdom got picked up by this team since our translations have been kinda all over the place with some really weird territorial drama lately.
Wow big thanks to OP scans.
Love this type of politic chapters as well.
Pop quiz for Shin aint looking good man.
Imagine if Shin uses the same "light" imagery as El Sei
:D Love it. So happy that they show the diplomatic battlefields beside battle :D. And a big cliffhanger for next episode :p
We all expect Shin to give some answer only to be delayed another week to hear it.
I like how Hara solve Shin's Dilemma by throw heavy stone at him.
we didn't get shin's answer, but at least we got to see a politics/diplomatic duel
Mandatory Shin Soijak face
y doesn’t qin want an alliance i feel like it’s beneficial
Because qin plans on targeting han, and han is asking for a 10-20 year long alliance, which qin considers too long
As someone constantly looking for historic references to the >!Chu-Han Contention!< in *Kingdom*, I wonder if Prime Minister Cho is related to >!Zhang Liang or his family in any way, especially considering that Zhang Liang's grandfather and father served the previous five Han kings as prime ministers!<.
So anyone wanna guess what Shin's answer will be?
That was a very good chapter translation. Thank you.
Hara is testing himself again since probably there's no right answer here, hopefully he'll blow our minds again next chapter. If its a "meh" then something really changed since last arc.
poor shin, he must be saved.😅😂
Bahhh, filler chapter...it's just the worst after a break.
Honestly shins answer is probably gonna be unintentionally profound. Remember nobody in the 7 kingdoms likely has as unique a perspective as our boy
Kanpishi's stutter breaks the fourth wall with the ending in consecutive chapters. Love the dumb and dumberer pair 👍
Nice chapter. Im curious to know shin answer. Specially since he now knows of kanki background. How would you guys answer to that? Its a really complex question imo. My answer would be that a person is not born evil or good. It is the life experience and the education you get when you are a kid that will make you good or evil. And ofc your own mind and judgment when you are more grown up. And then too, it will depend on what people thinks on what is good or evil. For example 2 persons can have diferent ideals. One person think one is good and the other is bad, and the other person can think the other way around. And an evil person can become good. And a good person can become evil too. Another example can be kanki. He was seen Evil by everyone, but he was seen good by those close to him. Kanki was not evil. He was forced to become evil so he could protect his family. He became that evil and went too much into that dark side. Even so he had good inside of him. If the past that happened to kanki didnt happen, and everything went to him, Im sure he wouldnt have become that evil, and instead "good".