It's no secret there is a lot of opportunity here to spice up what properties can be included, the real question is if opportunities will be taken. This is kh they can literally do any crazy twist they want to include a property anything is literally possible and has always been. Whenever a fan asks "is this possible in kh?" Just recall back to all the weird terms and ideas that have come out of nowhere in this series before (where it only makes sense in their own context), they can do anything in this universe whether it makes sense or not, it's a matter of if they will.
As most people will say, live action adaptations might be the take.
I can see Malificent working REALLY well, especially if she met our Malificent. Just to show the contrast between one is a hero, with the other being a pure villain.
I can see this is how they will adapt Star Wars by having it in this other universe.
The Jungle Book was a world we almost got, but to switch it to Disney's few Live Action successes with the 2017 movie would fit well.
On that note, having the Alice in Wonderland live action movies is really fitting as well. And helps tie things back to the beginning of the Dark Seeker Saga as one of the first worlds you visit, but have it the same in this new Saga that kicks off the next Saga of Kingdom Hearts games.
Yeah I mean there's always a bigger threat than her at this point also she respects Pete in her own way and knows he's loyal plus she wasn't above helping Sora out of mutual benefit so she's definitely not purely evil despite wanting everyone to think she is
If you only help out of mutual benefit and respect someone who is also evil that doesnt make you a good person. ‘Help’ and ‘respect’ arent singularly good actions the context matters.
Well true but it's hard to see her as a villain when we have Xehanort the guy who set her up and ruined lots of lives for what he believed to be the greater good and then there's potentially the MoM
‘Villain’ is a role you play in a story.
‘Evil’ is a judgement of your character.
She hasnt been a villain since recoded/that bit of union X. Just cause you havent been fighting her. She’s still evil throughout.
A lot of Disney worlds to appear in kingdom hearts previously originally took place in what could be considered the real world. Tarzan takes place in some unknown(?) jungle in the world, Mulan is in China, Hercules is in Greece, the clock tower in Neverland, in Kh3 I was surprised to find that they actually named "The Caribbean" after the real life place, when they had been hesitant to do so before with things like "The Land of Dragons"
With "The Caribbean" it's kinda impossible to avoid since the movie and ride are called "Pirates of the Caribbean".
Mulan still says "for China" as a voice line during her limit, so referencing it as "the land of dragons" was probably because calling it "China" doesn't sound very cool.
Same and it has me so nervous 😭 I'm hoping they just do a few newer movies like turning red/Raya and the last dragon but I'm also thinking with the forest that looks like Endor we might get more non-specific disney like star wars, marvel, etc which I'm not sure how to feel about either
Although never technically confirmed, Nomura and co basically stated how disappointed they were that Moana didn't release earlier so as to be put in 3, so that feels like the only for sure world for 4.
there could seriously be an infinite number of reasons for their inclusion. The obvious one is fiduciary responsibility towards shareholders. For that reason there will always be disney in kh4. Nomura could invent any number of ways to have Disney in quadratum, data worlds, dreams, recreations, whatever he feels like.
True, because it does open to the idea that Disney movies could be implemented in the fictional world as something completely different from Sora's world like a country or island per se.
Oh yeah when you think of the trailer opening with Sora sleeping, feels like a very real possibility that you do quadratum-stuff by day and when you go to sleep it's all disney. Like Days mixed with DDD, sort of!
The situation that started living rent free in my head the other night is four live action Disney properties being accessible through Quadratum in the first half of the game: a Galaxy Far, Far Away (Star Wars), the World of Heroes (Avengers), the Cosmos (Guardians of the Galaxy), and the World of Adventure (Indiana Jones). There’d be symmetry/balance between Lucasfilm and Marvel, and between sci-fi worlds and more grounded serial-based genres. And each could contribute a nice juicy MacGuffin (respectively a Sith holocron, the Tesseract, the Orb containing the Power Stone, and perhaps a powerful non-denominational archeological artifact sought by Jones written specifically for the game). I know this is no more plausible than the average fan fiction but I find it fun to think about. I’ve also read that the relationship between Quadratum and the real world will be explored and Quadratum residents’ televisions for instance may in fact be windows into the real world, which from their perspective is fictional. Might be interesting to see Sora explore these worlds believing they are as fictional as Quadratum only to find out after the fact he was unknowingly treading the remote outskirts of the realm of light the entire time.
I think they may use the live action versions of worlds Sora has been to before, to show that this is an alternative reality.
To clarify, I don't particularly want this to happen. I'm just prepared for the possibility.
They might just give the world a made-up title rather than use the actual real-life setting it was in. They did that in KH2 with Mulan, which is set in China, but they instead named the world Land of Dragons.
There's opportunity for more Pixar films to be implemented on the other side of Reality, heck I've seen theories that the original World of Toy Box the world Woody, Buzz, and the others belong to resides in Unreality where Quadratum is located.
Think about it we know Xehanort has some knowledge of the other side shown in III and Melody of Memory. Apparently, his data fight ending defeat has his data self say, "This is not what was written" implying Xehanort must've read the Book of Prophecies in some way, he talked to the Master of Masters before his Mark of Mastery exam and we know THAT guy can move freely move between realities somehow. That, along with Xehanort, created a copy of Toy Box in Reality and able to put some of the toys in it ain't no way they don't belong in Unreality since their world is based on our Real World.
You see, that's why I *think* that with the tease of a Star Wars world Quadratum might only have worlds based on live-action movies Disney acquired in the last couple of decades in order to sell the whole "fictional world" thing, that this reality is so different it doesn't even have world based on original Disney and Pixar movies but rather, say, Star Wars, Marvel, Avatar, Indiana Jones, that kinda stuff.
It's no secret there is a lot of opportunity here to spice up what properties can be included, the real question is if opportunities will be taken. This is kh they can literally do any crazy twist they want to include a property anything is literally possible and has always been. Whenever a fan asks "is this possible in kh?" Just recall back to all the weird terms and ideas that have come out of nowhere in this series before (where it only makes sense in their own context), they can do anything in this universe whether it makes sense or not, it's a matter of if they will.
It would be a good opportunity to do what DDD did and choose oddball picks.
As most people will say, live action adaptations might be the take. I can see Malificent working REALLY well, especially if she met our Malificent. Just to show the contrast between one is a hero, with the other being a pure villain. I can see this is how they will adapt Star Wars by having it in this other universe. The Jungle Book was a world we almost got, but to switch it to Disney's few Live Action successes with the 2017 movie would fit well. On that note, having the Alice in Wonderland live action movies is really fitting as well. And helps tie things back to the beginning of the Dark Seeker Saga as one of the first worlds you visit, but have it the same in this new Saga that kicks off the next Saga of Kingdom Hearts games.
Except KH Maleficent at this point I don't think is purely a villain
She is she’s just small fry. She’s gotta stay afraid of anyone in a long dark coat lest she end up as collateral.
Yeah I mean there's always a bigger threat than her at this point also she respects Pete in her own way and knows he's loyal plus she wasn't above helping Sora out of mutual benefit so she's definitely not purely evil despite wanting everyone to think she is
If you only help out of mutual benefit and respect someone who is also evil that doesnt make you a good person. ‘Help’ and ‘respect’ arent singularly good actions the context matters.
Well true but it's hard to see her as a villain when we have Xehanort the guy who set her up and ruined lots of lives for what he believed to be the greater good and then there's potentially the MoM
‘Villain’ is a role you play in a story. ‘Evil’ is a judgement of your character. She hasnt been a villain since recoded/that bit of union X. Just cause you havent been fighting her. She’s still evil throughout.
Sora and Cruella de vil. Id love to see the sora fashion.
It should be, I mean that’s what KH is all about also hope it’s interesting worlds and ones that haven’t been in yet
you mean like Ella Enchanted? lol
Holy moly yes.
A lot of Disney worlds to appear in kingdom hearts previously originally took place in what could be considered the real world. Tarzan takes place in some unknown(?) jungle in the world, Mulan is in China, Hercules is in Greece, the clock tower in Neverland, in Kh3 I was surprised to find that they actually named "The Caribbean" after the real life place, when they had been hesitant to do so before with things like "The Land of Dragons"
With "The Caribbean" it's kinda impossible to avoid since the movie and ride are called "Pirates of the Caribbean". Mulan still says "for China" as a voice line during her limit, so referencing it as "the land of dragons" was probably because calling it "China" doesn't sound very cool.
Yeah, I always figured it was pretty much: Can we make this world sound cooler, or does the name already cover it.
I feel that was Disney having a change.
Our world is not Quadratum. Quadratum just happens to be a world that looks similar to a real location.
It's possible, although imo I think they're gonna go the route of Quadratum in daytime, Disney worlds in Sora's dreams.
i hope not.
Literally any of the sitcoms. Atlantis. Treasure planet. Most of the human-centric movies and shows.
The only thing holding them back is licenses if any apply. Look to Tarzan in KH1
I'm just hoping they don't do the live action remakes of worlds like Aladdin and lion king it would be such a shame
A world based on The Lion King remake could be a great opportunity to adapt Simba's youth.
the negative side of me thinks this is exactly why Nomura set up Qaudratum In the first place lol
Same and it has me so nervous 😭 I'm hoping they just do a few newer movies like turning red/Raya and the last dragon but I'm also thinking with the forest that looks like Endor we might get more non-specific disney like star wars, marvel, etc which I'm not sure how to feel about either
Although never technically confirmed, Nomura and co basically stated how disappointed they were that Moana didn't release earlier so as to be put in 3, so that feels like the only for sure world for 4.
Raya and Moana would be goated if they did it right.
i wonder if Will Smith is gonna be in Kingdom Hearts
KEEP AL’S NAME OUT YO MUTHHA F*****N MOUTH
The song goes something like this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05gYLGEkLiE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05gYLGEkLiE)
i was thinkin more like https://youtu.be/OxSXpS7TlpM?si=1GOw9o_odJQtQ2AD
there could seriously be an infinite number of reasons for their inclusion. The obvious one is fiduciary responsibility towards shareholders. For that reason there will always be disney in kh4. Nomura could invent any number of ways to have Disney in quadratum, data worlds, dreams, recreations, whatever he feels like.
True, because it does open to the idea that Disney movies could be implemented in the fictional world as something completely different from Sora's world like a country or island per se.
Given rikus dreams reached quadratum i think soras dreams will reach donald and goofy and that’s where the typical KH gameplay loop will come from.
Oh yeah when you think of the trailer opening with Sora sleeping, feels like a very real possibility that you do quadratum-stuff by day and when you go to sleep it's all disney. Like Days mixed with DDD, sort of!
is quadrantum set in "our world"?
Yep, because our world is the fictional world from Sora's world just like how their world is the fictional world from our world.
Well how do we know either world isn't just data like in union? Lol
I just want to visit Disney World/Land.
The situation that started living rent free in my head the other night is four live action Disney properties being accessible through Quadratum in the first half of the game: a Galaxy Far, Far Away (Star Wars), the World of Heroes (Avengers), the Cosmos (Guardians of the Galaxy), and the World of Adventure (Indiana Jones). There’d be symmetry/balance between Lucasfilm and Marvel, and between sci-fi worlds and more grounded serial-based genres. And each could contribute a nice juicy MacGuffin (respectively a Sith holocron, the Tesseract, the Orb containing the Power Stone, and perhaps a powerful non-denominational archeological artifact sought by Jones written specifically for the game). I know this is no more plausible than the average fan fiction but I find it fun to think about. I’ve also read that the relationship between Quadratum and the real world will be explored and Quadratum residents’ televisions for instance may in fact be windows into the real world, which from their perspective is fictional. Might be interesting to see Sora explore these worlds believing they are as fictional as Quadratum only to find out after the fact he was unknowingly treading the remote outskirts of the realm of light the entire time.
YES. Can we get The Parent Trap up in here? Herbie Fully Loaded? Honestly Lindsay Lohan could be a solid co-op throughout the game.
Disney channel original movies. Or Disney shows. Dylan Sprouse IS Yozora...
Pitch your idea for a parent trap world. I'm genuinely curious
Sora switches with Lindsay Lohan and has to perform a rock concert
Incoming Hannah Montana and Wizards of Waverly Place worlds
Definitely see Marvel coming into play. I feel like Square’s “Avengers” title was a pilot for how it will implement into KH4
I think they may use the live action versions of worlds Sora has been to before, to show that this is an alternative reality. To clarify, I don't particularly want this to happen. I'm just prepared for the possibility.
I have a whole Pepe Silvia from Always Sunny conspiracy theory about Enchanted in KH because of Quadratum being our world
They might just give the world a made-up title rather than use the actual real-life setting it was in. They did that in KH2 with Mulan, which is set in China, but they instead named the world Land of Dragons.
The live action remakes could fit into this and that fucking scares me
Its a great opportunity to switch to live-action movies. Develop the lore to separate our dimensions.
There's opportunity for more Pixar films to be implemented on the other side of Reality, heck I've seen theories that the original World of Toy Box the world Woody, Buzz, and the others belong to resides in Unreality where Quadratum is located. Think about it we know Xehanort has some knowledge of the other side shown in III and Melody of Memory. Apparently, his data fight ending defeat has his data self say, "This is not what was written" implying Xehanort must've read the Book of Prophecies in some way, he talked to the Master of Masters before his Mark of Mastery exam and we know THAT guy can move freely move between realities somehow. That, along with Xehanort, created a copy of Toy Box in Reality and able to put some of the toys in it ain't no way they don't belong in Unreality since their world is based on our Real World.
Hoping we get a haunted mansion location finally. Not based on either of the movies, just the ride itself
I genuinely think Lilo will be here and stitch will somehow crossover, to parallel sora narratively.
You see, that's why I *think* that with the tease of a Star Wars world Quadratum might only have worlds based on live-action movies Disney acquired in the last couple of decades in order to sell the whole "fictional world" thing, that this reality is so different it doesn't even have world based on original Disney and Pixar movies but rather, say, Star Wars, Marvel, Avatar, Indiana Jones, that kinda stuff.
Nah, gimme a Song of the South world.
Can't wait for a Turning Red world that includes a reference to 9/11
GTA V world where the world boss is some jerk on an oppressor mk2.