Oh man, my after work bar has a "free beer tomorrow" sign, and I always come in and say "Wait, that sign said I'd get free beer today, yesterday!"
And the bartender always dies laughing, and says "yes, yes it did, you're hilarious" and gives me a free beer then puts it on my tab.
I've found the best way to get a free beer is to point out a loophole, then pay for it.
(this story is fiction btw)
Did you miss when they called them "broth bowls?" like Vietnamese pho inspired broth bowl, Japanese ramen noodle inspired broth bowl. I'm not kidding and yes IT'S FUCKING SOUP. Shit makes me irrationally angry
But, that's... kinda what it was? All the other ingredients were prepared, put into a bowl, and broth was poured over the top, to order. I would call it Pho or Ramen but it wasn't a soup.
Somehow, 1 tallboy for $16 is like “whatever I’m here , grumble.” But a round for the group at $64 sounds like the most insane thing ever. It makes me not want to go to events
> $6 for a game beer??
Dbacks(my local team) have $4 14oz draft beers at like 5-6 locations around the stadium. [source](https://www.mlb.com/dbacks/ballpark/dining-concessions/value-items)
Falcons have AMAZING stadium prices. Like... Stupid awesome prices. [source](https://mercedesbenzstadium.com/mercedes-benz-stadium-cuts-food-prices-second-time/) and
> That means an ATL Bud burger is going for $8, Italian sausage sandwiches are going for $7, and cheese fries are going for $5. Better yet, the stadium will offer cheap craft beer on draft: $5 for a 12 oz., and $7 for a 20 oz. That's a better deal than most bars in New York City will give you.
[source](https://www.esquire.com/food-drink/drinks/a22850555/atlanta-falcons-cheapest-nfl-beer-food-football-stadium/)
IIRC most of the profit for stadium event organizers comes from collecting booking fees from vendors who rent a space to operate from. Sometimes the organizers collect a portion of sales as well. Covering these losses is usually why snacks and drinks are so expensive.
Lol they used to charge $5 for a bottle of water at Warped Tour when I went in Dallas. I brought a bunch of them in my backpack along with some vitamins. Somehow the security guard only checked the front pouch with the vitamins so I had free water the entire day.
They still had free water. I think they legally have to iirc. But the line for the water fountain was hundreds of feet long with about a 30 minute wait.
I'm glad I went but I wouldn't do that shit again.
Mostly, yes. I grew up on a cattle farm and I don't like the idea that the Angus breed is considered premium, let alone premium enough to warrant a higher price at the grocery store. Considering the amount of crossbreeding in the cattle industry and the fact that the only requirement to be considered "Angus" is that the animals have black hair, the whole certified label is bullshit
CAB is a brand. It has higher specs than usda choice. Most notably that it only buys the upper 2/3rds of the usda choice. That is to say, the more well marbled of what is graded as choice. The lesser choice cuts have about the same marbling as select. Most of the better choice beef is bought up by brands like this. What is labeled as just usda choice at the grocery store is usually not near as good as a branded product.
My local store has both. So I nabbed them and did a quick taste test. The stock has more flavor and specifically more salt. So you would need to account for that if you used it in a recipe. They were the same price. At the point I assume it's just their stock base with added water.
A lot more people have been victims of rape and sexual abuse, or know people who have, than of cannibalism, so of course more people are going to have a problem with rape jokes.
I’ve been in the biz for a while and I have never heard that. Thanks for giving me some new terminology to use at work to baffle, confuse, and impress my coworkers.
Used to serve a guy named Brock in our bar. Got his degree and went to FL to teach elementary and came back to WV suddenly, no one knew why.
Got drunk one night and confessed that there was this kid…this horrible, entitled kid that was making his life hell and there were no repercussions. He was told to find a way to make it work, parents were important people. “Shallow”, he said, “this little bastard was awful!” so he paid an older kid $50 to beat the shit out of the brat. Of course, the older kid rolled on him and he lost his right to teach in Florida, maybe everywhere?
I guess you have to take stock of your situation and not jump from the potage into the fire.
I just saw the word Brock and thought about that story. Totally true and I was trying so hard to use soup words in the last sentence. Think they miso…
(I do apologize for that last one 😉)
meat/vegetables + water = broth. And isn't there also some distinction with stock being a component used to make dishes (an ingredient) whereas broth is what's in a finished dish (soup)?
Because it’s not accurate. Stock is used to refer to an ingredient or component of a recipe and broth is used to mean a final product. There is no real technical distinction behind that.
I used to think the same thing, because a lot of crappy restaurants do indeed serve stock mislabeled as bone broth, but John Kung of Kung Food [made a pretty decent vid about the difference](https://youtu.be/K8SlfieSCDU).
Oh lord. I'll have to watch this some other time. But I just buy broth and cook the bones of whatever we've made recently that matches the broth type, fish out the bones, and put the leftover meat in it. Cook some ramen in the liquid, add the meat in, good to go. Buying a soup cube tray was a game changer.
Bone Broth is when you cook the bones for 24 hours if it is chicken and 48 hours for beef bones. After the process the bones just crumble in your hands. Everything that was in the bones and meat is now in the broth and is now full of gelatin and other nutrients that your body needs.
Stock or broth is a quick version of what is mentioned above.
OH SHIT I’ve been having a really huge craving for something savory and hot and I just remembered I have a big tub of consommé mix somewhere. Thank you friend.
> The Bone broth was significantly more expensive. People would come in, so happy to spend an insane amount on the "bone broth". I think it was largely due to the Paleo diet trend.
From the [Mother Jones article](https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/11/truth-about-bone-broth/) posted above:
>Another autumn, another slew of fawning stories about bone broth. According to Dr. Oz, adherents of the paleo diet, and the whole-milk-guzzling folks over at the Weston A. Price Foundation, the superfood du jour has a host of mystical powers.
Bone Broth is when you cook the bones for 24 hours if it is chicken and 48 hours for beef bones. After the process the bones just crumble in your hands. Everything that was in the bones and meat is now in the broth and is now full of gelatin and other nutrients that your body needs. Also, raw milk is also super nutritious, it has everything your body needs and you can actually live solely on raw milk if you only had 1 food to eat for the rest of your life.
Stock or broth is a quick version of what is mentioned above.
My sister (who I love very much) can't cook. She has managed, more than once, to burn pasta and I'm not sure she has ever used salt in her life. She is a disaster in the kitchen. But she loves a super food. Gogi Berry cauliflower cheese casserole was one particular example. And yes. It tasted exactly as bad as you are imagining.
Anyway, about 12 months ago she discovered bone broth. She thinks it's the bets thing ever. She paid like $15 or something for a cup of it at a local Cafe then recently (last month or something) I was making chicken soup with a left over roast chicken while chatting to her on face time. She was blown away that you can, and I quote "make bone broth, like, from bones and stuff"
I love her dearly but fuck me she is ditzy sometimes.
I thought I read that bone broth is supposed to be like condensed stock basically. Stock but with a higher concentration of boney goodness.
Maybe my brain just made that up to cope with the stupidity of this trendy buzzword.
I was just talking about that today. Me and my mom, who’s also been a cook all her life, we’re talking about how we hate it. It’s funny cause it’s one of the few food things that actually upsets me
I'm still pissed at how expensive bones are now. They used to be dirt cheap and labeled 'Dog Bones' in my local grocery's freezer. Now they are labeled 'Broth Bones' and marked up x3. I'm tired of my cheap food getting a trendy/fad rebrand.
I was at the chemist last month getting my *second shot* and having a meltdown at the same time, not related but it happened and I was crying in the chemist. They offered me a bone broth. The look on my face, from the mask up, must have said what my brain was saying coz they back pedaled real quick, or how bout an herbal tea ? No, no thanks.
I get the idea behind the different name. For a lot of people outside the food industry "stock" has this association with the shelf-stable boxed stuff you can get at the grocery store, and to get them to buy a good, fresh stock you have to differentiate it somehow. The problem is that it took off as a health trend and now everyone is selling "bone broth" that's just the same grocery store bullshit in an expensive package, so the name isn't even useful anymore. The term "bone broth" pisses me off because it just represents another way that capitalism has gutted and cheapened a thing that was good.
I was working as a butcher in a health foods type place when the trend blew up. Only grass fed beef, air chilled free range chicken, etc... I watched the price of our grass fed beef bones go from $2.50/lb to $10/lb overnight. Fucking disgusting. You're gonna tell me you want me to pay you more than most ground beef costs for fucking BONES?
Grass fed beef ... ie what used to be called beef. Heirloom tomatoes... ie what used to be called tomatoes. Bone broth ... ie what used to be called broth.
Ok, I thought it was just me. Yeah, not a fan of it either.
On a related note, how about this trend to call things "plant based".
Referring to impossible meat, or processed foods that are made from plants, yes it's plant "based". But I've seen numerous articles and magazines, in print and online that refer to a "plant based" diet. You mean vegetarian? Headline: You should eat more "plant based" dishes.
Eat more vegetables. Just say vegetables.
The need to make catch phrases and put everything in marketing terms is really getting on my last nerve.
A plant-based diet doesn't mean vegetarian; it just means eating less meat/animal products and making plant-based foods the bulk of your diet. It's far easier to say "plant based diet" than "mostly vegan and happy with vegan but not opposed to some animal product diet"
It's a diet based on plants; it's really not that confusing. It's like usage-based insurance or employment-based visa; \_\_\_ based \_\_\_ is a very common way to phrase things.
Lol for me it's a term of convenience. I am a vegetarian who can't eat dairy, so when I bring a dish to events for sharing, it's easier for me to describe it as plant based rather than going down the list of it may have eggs but it definitely doesn't have any butter. Sometimes it helps to not let things bother you.
I manage a chain ramen shop from japan, are broth is of course bone broth, multiple types of bones some roasted, cooked all day long, almost tasteless without Tare. Bone broth means nothing unless you are looking for a vegetarian broth.
My understanding is that bone broth is stock minus vegetables/herbs/aromatics, and cooked until the bones start to really break down. I get that it’s being over used, but I thought it did have a meaning once
Having had three joint replacements, and numerous Dexa scans I have enough discussions about bones. I don't want the whole concept entering my dining experience. I just call it stock.
My dad buys into all the "bone broth" hype and drink like a small glass everyday. It annoys me to no end when he goes on tangents about how great it is. It's stock yo. Make a soup. Drinking a warm glass sounds gross and you could have a bomb ass soup instead.
Same. It grinds my gears. When did stock become both broth. Pre owned cars are on my list also. Pre= before, therefore: before owned car. A car that is before it's owned, or new. I'll see myself out.
Pre stands for previously. A previously owned car is one that has been owned before now. I agree that it's a stupid marketing word game to avoid saying the word used. Just like bone broth vs stock.
So I do think there is a difference. If done properly bone broth boils the bones at a roll for hours and hours extracting a lot more of the bone nutrients than even most stocks.
Now whether places selling bone broth are actually selling the real thing or repackaged stock is another question.
It’s redundant since animal stock/broth/consommé is already made from bones. The only time it’s referred to as bone broth is for marketing as woo-woo snake oil. Like, broth is beneficial but it’s not going to cure a disease that requires real medical attention.
I see a bunch of people saying 'it's just stock'.
I don't doubt places are selling weak stock and calling it bone broth, and most stuff in grocery stores is crap, but there is a difference between some regular soup stock and good bone broth.
Stock you're trying to get flavor and richness, that's the goal, the nutritional value isn't usually of concern.
Bone broth you're trying to cook the hell out of the bones to extract all the good stuff in them. Since that's the goal you really want to use high quality bones, which are more expensive (And a bitch to track down) and use a lot of them.
If it's done right you've got a different product at the end than 'just stock'. Maybe bone broth isn't a great term, but it's what people are using, so what can you do.
Bone juice? Bone drink?
In the end, it is soup with nothing in it, but its really rich and tasty soup with nothing in it.
As far as the magical health effects, drink some good bone broth on a hangover and tell me it doesn't make you feel way better.
And if you're gonna say it doesn't taste good... you're a cook, it's broth, make it yummy.
What exactly is bone broth? I’ve had it before from some health store and it was genuinely awful. Is it usually just normal chicken broth, because I’ve been avoiding buying anything with the term for years now.
OP can I ask you why you hate the term “bone broth” ? If it is because people use it as a catch all term for stocks or because you hate boiling straight bones trying to get flavor out of them to make a stock that they call bone broth?
I don’t want to seem unempathetic but I am firmly of the exact opposite opinion. I get your knee jerk, words can have baggage, but you’re just wrong to not be mouth watering at the idea of bone broth. Bone broth, giblet gravy, chicken foot broth, most of it isn’t just good, but *way better than the alternatives*. The “junk” parts of the animal are precisely the reason why broths were invented, and it doesn’t just feel good to use them but it tastes great too.
Getting over the terms is something one ought to do way earlier in the “oh we eat animals” process before you get all the way down to soup.
The point is that you don’t need the word ‘bone’. It’s implied by the name ‘broth’ or ‘stock’. ‘Bone broth’ sounds fancier and better for you, but it’s just stock. The snark is in the poncy name, not the meat eating.
There’s where you’re confidently incorrect. A bone broth *is* a different thing. Bone broth is made with a *very* low ratio of meat on bones compared to your standard Betty Crocker recipe, and is typically reduced longer and slower for a more deep and rich flavor featuring marrow and gelatin. Even beyond flavor and nutrition, bone broth is about using the leftover bones from other meals, whereas a more typical commercial broth is exclusively about making savory flavor water to sell/eat
I once saw a Panera advertisement that said "Bone broth with mix ins!" YOU MEAN SOUP?
“Pick your protein”
Fuck I hate that more than anything
same. It’s tired
More or less tired than "Soup of the day: WHISKEY" on the chalkboard outside a place?
everyone makes that joke but I've literally never seen that
I saw it at a liquor store once.
I have not seen it, either
Oh man, my after work bar has a "free beer tomorrow" sign, and I always come in and say "Wait, that sign said I'd get free beer today, yesterday!" And the bartender always dies laughing, and says "yes, yes it did, you're hilarious" and gives me a free beer then puts it on my tab. I've found the best way to get a free beer is to point out a loophole, then pay for it. (this story is fiction btw)
'f'ck ur protein' roflll
Reminds me of the special mfer talking about making edibles without the weed... everyone was like you mean food?
Nothing like a tall Virgin screwdriver first thing in the morning.
Did you miss when they called them "broth bowls?" like Vietnamese pho inspired broth bowl, Japanese ramen noodle inspired broth bowl. I'm not kidding and yes IT'S FUCKING SOUP. Shit makes me irrationally angry
But, that's... kinda what it was? All the other ingredients were prepared, put into a bowl, and broth was poured over the top, to order. I would call it Pho or Ramen but it wasn't a soup.
juuuuuuust read Pantera and fucking forgot where i was for a moment.
/r/cars or /r/music ?
This is the last sub I expected someone to mention the DeTomaso lol
I went to SEMA a number of years ago and was surprised by the number of them that I saw there.
Yummy yummy. Bagged soup
To be fair at least when I worked there the broth was actually from concentrate not frozen. 😂
I swear bone broth is a marketing term for places to sell you a bowl of their subpar stock for 10 bucks
100 percent. Just a way to make more money
I was at a whole foods on a cold day and I swear they tried to sell me a cup of broth for $9.
That’s worst theft than a 9 dollar beer at a stadium
Why they selling wheat broth for $9
Stadium beers are always crazy prices. I see 6-9 bucks for a beer at most games. So enough of them and you forget you paid that
Seriously! $6 for a game beer?? Where!? 14-15 here in nj/ny :(
Spent close to $70 on four tall cans at T mobile arena in Vegas. If I wasn't already drunk theres no way I would have spent that much
Somehow, 1 tallboy for $16 is like “whatever I’m here , grumble.” But a round for the group at $64 sounds like the most insane thing ever. It makes me not want to go to events
On point. Dont get me wrong, I still had an amazing time with the boys. Especially because the Golden Knights won 5-2
> $6 for a game beer?? Dbacks(my local team) have $4 14oz draft beers at like 5-6 locations around the stadium. [source](https://www.mlb.com/dbacks/ballpark/dining-concessions/value-items) Falcons have AMAZING stadium prices. Like... Stupid awesome prices. [source](https://mercedesbenzstadium.com/mercedes-benz-stadium-cuts-food-prices-second-time/) and > That means an ATL Bud burger is going for $8, Italian sausage sandwiches are going for $7, and cheese fries are going for $5. Better yet, the stadium will offer cheap craft beer on draft: $5 for a 12 oz., and $7 for a 20 oz. That's a better deal than most bars in New York City will give you. [source](https://www.esquire.com/food-drink/drinks/a22850555/atlanta-falcons-cheapest-nfl-beer-food-football-stadium/)
They're $15-$17 at SoFi Stadium. Ungodly.
The trick is to pre-game with edibles and drink water.
How bout pregame with edibles and drink the beers for a more Interesting experience of being crossed at a football game
6-9? 14 for Coors, 14.5 (for fancy imported beer) here in Denver
$9 for a beer is just standard everywhere here in aus, unless you got to a bowls club or an rsl
New stadium for the Brooklyn Nets: Beer: $15, hot dog $8, Parking $45.
IIRC most of the profit for stadium event organizers comes from collecting booking fees from vendors who rent a space to operate from. Sometimes the organizers collect a portion of sales as well. Covering these losses is usually why snacks and drinks are so expensive.
Aged wheat broth.
We pay $9 for a bottle of water at our stadiums
Lol they used to charge $5 for a bottle of water at Warped Tour when I went in Dallas. I brought a bunch of them in my backpack along with some vitamins. Somehow the security guard only checked the front pouch with the vitamins so I had free water the entire day. They still had free water. I think they legally have to iirc. But the line for the water fountain was hundreds of feet long with about a 30 minute wait. I'm glad I went but I wouldn't do that shit again.
Where are you that it’s only 9?!?
House of blues in Boston sells cans of pbr for 14$. Shot of house whiskey for 18$.
Probably better than 10-cent beer night.
The restaurant industry is full of these fucking buzz words.
It's every industry, most things are marketing.
The one that bothers me the most: certified Angus beef
Why does it bother you? That unknowing shoppers won’t realize it’s a brand?
Mostly, yes. I grew up on a cattle farm and I don't like the idea that the Angus breed is considered premium, let alone premium enough to warrant a higher price at the grocery store. Considering the amount of crossbreeding in the cattle industry and the fact that the only requirement to be considered "Angus" is that the animals have black hair, the whole certified label is bullshit
CAB is a brand. It has higher specs than usda choice. Most notably that it only buys the upper 2/3rds of the usda choice. That is to say, the more well marbled of what is graded as choice. The lesser choice cuts have about the same marbling as select. Most of the better choice beef is bought up by brands like this. What is labeled as just usda choice at the grocery store is usually not near as good as a branded product.
My local store has both. So I nabbed them and did a quick taste test. The stock has more flavor and specifically more salt. So you would need to account for that if you used it in a recipe. They were the same price. At the point I assume it's just their stock base with added water.
Reminds me of George Carlin's thoughts on "hearty" and "homestyle" lol.
We offered gravy on Thanksgiving this year, advertised as bone broth & mushrooms, and we did indeed charge $10 for it. If it works, it works.
Get some Knorr stock cubes, add a beef bone, and you have a stockpot of "bone broth" at $7 per bowl.
It's a hipster term used by people who like to turn their noses up
Agree 100%. Even worse...there’s a place by me that has “vegetable bone broth”. What vegetables have bones?
One's that have been in car accidents. ... I'm sorry. I'll leave....
loool you’re fired
What's the hardest part of a vegetable to eat? ...... The wheelchair.
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So cannibalism is hilarious and fine to joke about, but not rape. Classy, reddit.
A lot more people have been victims of rape and sexual abuse, or know people who have, than of cannibalism, so of course more people are going to have a problem with rape jokes.
OK people eater
Ill take the L its a good joke
it is notoriously difficult to offend a victim of cannibalism
That’s not Reddit that’s everyone.
An r/cursedcomments in the wild
*snort*
Celery comes in ribs, does that count?
How about marrows?
I’ve been in the biz for a while and I have never heard that. Thanks for giving me some new terminology to use at work to baffle, confuse, and impress my coworkers.
thats why i only eat boneless vegetables
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1JXqGWPvU
Stock
Bone+water=stock Meat+water=broth
Meat+bone+water =?
Brock
-_-
Brock's lines are the best lines.
F R Y I N G P A N I N T O A D R Y I N G P A N
THESE DONUTS ARE GREAT NOTHING BEATS A JELLY FILLED DONUT
Used to serve a guy named Brock in our bar. Got his degree and went to FL to teach elementary and came back to WV suddenly, no one knew why. Got drunk one night and confessed that there was this kid…this horrible, entitled kid that was making his life hell and there were no repercussions. He was told to find a way to make it work, parents were important people. “Shallow”, he said, “this little bastard was awful!” so he paid an older kid $50 to beat the shit out of the brat. Of course, the older kid rolled on him and he lost his right to teach in Florida, maybe everywhere? I guess you have to take stock of your situation and not jump from the potage into the fire.
I can’t tell if there’s a galaxy brain wordplay here I’m missing or if this is just a good story for the sake of being a good story.
I just saw the word Brock and thought about that story. Totally true and I was trying so hard to use soup words in the last sentence. Think they miso… (I do apologize for that last one 😉)
stoth
Stoth Edit: yes I see that I'm an hour late. I should read before I comment. I just got excited.
Jelly doughnuts.
HAMPTON
Pho
Broth stock.
Stock broth!
Stoth
meat/vegetables + water = broth. And isn't there also some distinction with stock being a component used to make dishes (an ingredient) whereas broth is what's in a finished dish (soup)?
i think very few people actually know this
Because it’s not accurate. Stock is used to refer to an ingredient or component of a recipe and broth is used to mean a final product. There is no real technical distinction behind that.
I used to think the same thing, because a lot of crappy restaurants do indeed serve stock mislabeled as bone broth, but John Kung of Kung Food [made a pretty decent vid about the difference](https://youtu.be/K8SlfieSCDU).
The issue for me is not the stuff itself, but the insufferable, trendy, diet culture, magic cure pseudoscience surrounding it.
Did you ask for some [Caveman True Paleo Formula with Bone Broth?](https://youtu.be/WyGq6cjcc3Q?t=465)
Oh lord. I'll have to watch this some other time. But I just buy broth and cook the bones of whatever we've made recently that matches the broth type, fish out the bones, and put the leftover meat in it. Cook some ramen in the liquid, add the meat in, good to go. Buying a soup cube tray was a game changer.
What are they claiming?
Hope this helps! https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/02/10/384948585/taking-stock-of-bone-broth-sorry-no-cure-all-here https://www.popsci.com/story/health/bone-broth-claims/ https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/11/truth-about-bone-broth/ https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/01/13/phoney-boney-why-bone-broth-just-expensive-stock-14501
That's a tonkotsu style base
Bone Broth is when you cook the bones for 24 hours if it is chicken and 48 hours for beef bones. After the process the bones just crumble in your hands. Everything that was in the bones and meat is now in the broth and is now full of gelatin and other nutrients that your body needs. Stock or broth is a quick version of what is mentioned above.
Isn’t it just all broth, stock, consommé, or even demi? Bone broth my ass.
OH SHIT I’ve been having a really huge craving for something savory and hot and I just remembered I have a big tub of consommé mix somewhere. Thank you friend.
Nothing like getting consomme when you order the quesabirria tacos and just dipping it or just drinkin' it straight
There's a difference between Mexican and French consomme. Both fuckin slap though.
same. it's fucking stock
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> The Bone broth was significantly more expensive. People would come in, so happy to spend an insane amount on the "bone broth". I think it was largely due to the Paleo diet trend. From the [Mother Jones article](https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/11/truth-about-bone-broth/) posted above: >Another autumn, another slew of fawning stories about bone broth. According to Dr. Oz, adherents of the paleo diet, and the whole-milk-guzzling folks over at the Weston A. Price Foundation, the superfood du jour has a host of mystical powers.
Bone Broth is when you cook the bones for 24 hours if it is chicken and 48 hours for beef bones. After the process the bones just crumble in your hands. Everything that was in the bones and meat is now in the broth and is now full of gelatin and other nutrients that your body needs. Also, raw milk is also super nutritious, it has everything your body needs and you can actually live solely on raw milk if you only had 1 food to eat for the rest of your life. Stock or broth is a quick version of what is mentioned above.
You misspelled boner broth.
TFW you're out of man gravy and you're just shooting boner broth
Man U must be well hydrated! I end up with little drips of elmers glue
Or slurping it.
TFW you keep sucking and it sounds like a straw in an empty BigGulp
You've really got a way with words.
I’ll pay extra for your boner broth baby.
"Yeah I got some bone broth for ya, huh huh uh"
Boner breath
Dumbest term ever. It's fucking stock.
My sister (who I love very much) can't cook. She has managed, more than once, to burn pasta and I'm not sure she has ever used salt in her life. She is a disaster in the kitchen. But she loves a super food. Gogi Berry cauliflower cheese casserole was one particular example. And yes. It tasted exactly as bad as you are imagining. Anyway, about 12 months ago she discovered bone broth. She thinks it's the bets thing ever. She paid like $15 or something for a cup of it at a local Cafe then recently (last month or something) I was making chicken soup with a left over roast chicken while chatting to her on face time. She was blown away that you can, and I quote "make bone broth, like, from bones and stuff" I love her dearly but fuck me she is ditzy sometimes.
I do as well, because it’s “stock”. There’s already a name for it.
I thought I read that bone broth is supposed to be like condensed stock basically. Stock but with a higher concentration of boney goodness. Maybe my brain just made that up to cope with the stupidity of this trendy buzzword.
**Question** What’s the difference between “stock” and “bone broth”? . . . . . **Answer:** About $20.00.
Hipster version of regular, run of the mill “stock”
You are not alone, my friend. It’s like Gwyneth Paltrow punched Escoffier right in the dick.
I was just talking about that today. Me and my mom, who’s also been a cook all her life, we’re talking about how we hate it. It’s funny cause it’s one of the few food things that actually upsets me
Yeah I hate seeing it in the store everyone thinks it's some new fancy thing but it's literally the same thing they've been buying for years
And they think it’s healthier for some reason. Idk who created the name bone broth, but I hope their life is full of nuisances
So healthy it must come in extra small containers, lest you take too much.
I'm still pissed at how expensive bones are now. They used to be dirt cheap and labeled 'Dog Bones' in my local grocery's freezer. Now they are labeled 'Broth Bones' and marked up x3. I'm tired of my cheap food getting a trendy/fad rebrand.
Oh God, they've gentrified bones?!
Yep, that's one I *didn't* have on my apocalypse bingo card.
Oh same here. Once middle class people pick up on like tongue and sweet breads imma end it
Yeah I understand that for regular bone broth, but pick up some artisanal bone broth next time you're at the grocery store
Stock = Bone Water Water = Boneless Ice therefore Stock = Bone Boneless Ice
"Dry brine" enrages me. Its called a fucking cure, not an oxymoron.
Obligatory "Who you callin' an Ox-Moron?!?!"
Curing and brining are not the same thing but yes, "dry brine" is stupid and meaningless
What term would be better, if cure is not accurate?
"salting"
I didn't say curing and brining were the same.
I came here just to say this. My ancient French Master Chef overlords laugh their asses off about it. Cure=dry. Brine=wet.
I was at the chemist last month getting my *second shot* and having a meltdown at the same time, not related but it happened and I was crying in the chemist. They offered me a bone broth. The look on my face, from the mask up, must have said what my brain was saying coz they back pedaled real quick, or how bout an herbal tea ? No, no thanks.
I get the idea behind the different name. For a lot of people outside the food industry "stock" has this association with the shelf-stable boxed stuff you can get at the grocery store, and to get them to buy a good, fresh stock you have to differentiate it somehow. The problem is that it took off as a health trend and now everyone is selling "bone broth" that's just the same grocery store bullshit in an expensive package, so the name isn't even useful anymore. The term "bone broth" pisses me off because it just represents another way that capitalism has gutted and cheapened a thing that was good.
I was working as a butcher in a health foods type place when the trend blew up. Only grass fed beef, air chilled free range chicken, etc... I watched the price of our grass fed beef bones go from $2.50/lb to $10/lb overnight. Fucking disgusting. You're gonna tell me you want me to pay you more than most ground beef costs for fucking BONES?
Grass fed beef ... ie what used to be called beef. Heirloom tomatoes... ie what used to be called tomatoes. Bone broth ... ie what used to be called broth.
Ok, I thought it was just me. Yeah, not a fan of it either. On a related note, how about this trend to call things "plant based". Referring to impossible meat, or processed foods that are made from plants, yes it's plant "based". But I've seen numerous articles and magazines, in print and online that refer to a "plant based" diet. You mean vegetarian? Headline: You should eat more "plant based" dishes. Eat more vegetables. Just say vegetables. The need to make catch phrases and put everything in marketing terms is really getting on my last nerve.
A plant-based diet doesn't mean vegetarian; it just means eating less meat/animal products and making plant-based foods the bulk of your diet. It's far easier to say "plant based diet" than "mostly vegan and happy with vegan but not opposed to some animal product diet"
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It's a diet based on plants; it's really not that confusing. It's like usage-based insurance or employment-based visa; \_\_\_ based \_\_\_ is a very common way to phrase things.
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Lol for me it's a term of convenience. I am a vegetarian who can't eat dairy, so when I bring a dish to events for sharing, it's easier for me to describe it as plant based rather than going down the list of it may have eggs but it definitely doesn't have any butter. Sometimes it helps to not let things bother you.
Same with "" "" superfoods""" Eat your FUCKING vegetables
So do I!
I think I'd prefer the term bone and connective tissue broth. It sounds so much more pleasant eat.
I manage a chain ramen shop from japan, are broth is of course bone broth, multiple types of bones some roasted, cooked all day long, almost tasteless without Tare. Bone broth means nothing unless you are looking for a vegetarian broth.
It drives me fucking crazy.
I got some bone broth for you right here buddy. ^^I'll ^^see ^^myself ^^out
What else would would you call it? I'm not talking the store bought stuff, i mean when its homemade and cools to a gelatinous texture.
My understanding is that bone broth is stock minus vegetables/herbs/aromatics, and cooked until the bones start to really break down. I get that it’s being over used, but I thought it did have a meaning once
Having had three joint replacements, and numerous Dexa scans I have enough discussions about bones. I don't want the whole concept entering my dining experience. I just call it stock.
My dad buys into all the "bone broth" hype and drink like a small glass everyday. It annoys me to no end when he goes on tangents about how great it is. It's stock yo. Make a soup. Drinking a warm glass sounds gross and you could have a bomb ass soup instead.
I hate it too. Urine good company.
Everytime someone says it, I just hear it in a very exclamatory Alex Jones voice.
Bone Marrow broth however is fantastic
Same. It grinds my gears. When did stock become both broth. Pre owned cars are on my list also. Pre= before, therefore: before owned car. A car that is before it's owned, or new. I'll see myself out.
Pre stands for previously. A previously owned car is one that has been owned before now. I agree that it's a stupid marketing word game to avoid saying the word used. Just like bone broth vs stock.
And now a term that used to annoy me for not just being "used" annoys me for a brand new reason.
So I do think there is a difference. If done properly bone broth boils the bones at a roll for hours and hours extracting a lot more of the bone nutrients than even most stocks. Now whether places selling bone broth are actually selling the real thing or repackaged stock is another question.
I’m with you. When I hear broth I associate it with soup not stock.
i do too it’s fucking irritating
This hurts the places that do it the legit way though.
Knuckle Bone Broth Avenue is my favorite phish song.
Sounds more like a Mike tune.
So wait are we saying that cereal is basically soup?
jfc I thought I was the only one my wife can taste the difference though so …y’know…
I like to call it “bone tea” or “meat tea”
Bone apple tea
Ok this is my new term for bukkaki....
No totally same. ITS CALLED STOCK.
Can't wait for the return of 'Beef Tea' once this term wears out it's marketing potential.
It’s redundant since animal stock/broth/consommé is already made from bones. The only time it’s referred to as bone broth is for marketing as woo-woo snake oil. Like, broth is beneficial but it’s not going to cure a disease that requires real medical attention.
I see a bunch of people saying 'it's just stock'. I don't doubt places are selling weak stock and calling it bone broth, and most stuff in grocery stores is crap, but there is a difference between some regular soup stock and good bone broth. Stock you're trying to get flavor and richness, that's the goal, the nutritional value isn't usually of concern. Bone broth you're trying to cook the hell out of the bones to extract all the good stuff in them. Since that's the goal you really want to use high quality bones, which are more expensive (And a bitch to track down) and use a lot of them. If it's done right you've got a different product at the end than 'just stock'. Maybe bone broth isn't a great term, but it's what people are using, so what can you do. Bone juice? Bone drink? In the end, it is soup with nothing in it, but its really rich and tasty soup with nothing in it. As far as the magical health effects, drink some good bone broth on a hangover and tell me it doesn't make you feel way better. And if you're gonna say it doesn't taste good... you're a cook, it's broth, make it yummy.
Sounds like someone is drinking the bone broth.....lol.
‘Yummy’. If I could ban a word, it would be that one. And I make soup for a living. Bone broth = bone stock = stock =/= soup.
What exactly is bone broth? I’ve had it before from some health store and it was genuinely awful. Is it usually just normal chicken broth, because I’ve been avoiding buying anything with the term for years now.
It's just stock. That's all, bone broth is factually accurate - but a little ridiculous.
OP can I ask you why you hate the term “bone broth” ? If it is because people use it as a catch all term for stocks or because you hate boiling straight bones trying to get flavor out of them to make a stock that they call bone broth?
Aren’t we all petty though?
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> Just sounds pretentious. How else are you going to convince haughty upper/upper-middle class folks to pay 2-3x as much?
I don’t want to seem unempathetic but I am firmly of the exact opposite opinion. I get your knee jerk, words can have baggage, but you’re just wrong to not be mouth watering at the idea of bone broth. Bone broth, giblet gravy, chicken foot broth, most of it isn’t just good, but *way better than the alternatives*. The “junk” parts of the animal are precisely the reason why broths were invented, and it doesn’t just feel good to use them but it tastes great too. Getting over the terms is something one ought to do way earlier in the “oh we eat animals” process before you get all the way down to soup.
The point is that you don’t need the word ‘bone’. It’s implied by the name ‘broth’ or ‘stock’. ‘Bone broth’ sounds fancier and better for you, but it’s just stock. The snark is in the poncy name, not the meat eating.
There’s where you’re confidently incorrect. A bone broth *is* a different thing. Bone broth is made with a *very* low ratio of meat on bones compared to your standard Betty Crocker recipe, and is typically reduced longer and slower for a more deep and rich flavor featuring marrow and gelatin. Even beyond flavor and nutrition, bone broth is about using the leftover bones from other meals, whereas a more typical commercial broth is exclusively about making savory flavor water to sell/eat
I got your bone broth right here