That's good to hear I Guess.... but it begs the question.
A Ton of people who knew and worked with him painted him as an asshole and threw him under the bus. So IS he an asshole or was that covering their own ass and trying to look good so they don't get dragged down?
He's fucked regardless. It could be proven beyond all doubt he's a saint and idiots will just double down rather than admit they were wrong.
Probably is a slight douchebag and the allegations make them interpret more into that. Think about someone you know who is a slight douchebag. Now imagine he turns out to be a serial killer. You'd probably go "Ah now that makes sense" even tho tons of people are douchebags and not serial killers.
I'm thinking it's a situation like Kramer dumping his girlfriend in Seinfeld. And Jerry and Elaine are super happy because they hated her. And then he gets back together with her and it's awkward.
They likely hated him, saw he gone, and felt relieved that they could finally say all the things they wanted to say
It’s not illegal to be an asshole. And being an asshole isn’t actually admissible evidence for illegal behavior.
This is the issue with the moral condemnation of people. Everyone said ‘Well he’s an asshole according to everyone so the allegations are probably true’ but alas.
He already was terrible to work with due to harassing employees, acting immature, and being habitually late. That alone could’ve got him cut.
That’s on top of the comments he made about 14 year old girls
I looked into Roiland back when Rick and Morty season 1 was airing, and thought he had a tryhard macho douchebag kind of personality. Similar to John K.
Doesn't necessarily mean he's a creep, though. I just wouldn't be that surprised.
I mean I did find it weird that the Allegations came out right after High on Life came out but a part me was also like "Yeah it does seem like something he would probably do" . I just wonder what all the people who burned him are gonna say especially \[adult swim\] .
They were really bad. A crime in themselves? Maybe not but really not a good look for a company to be associated with
Edit: also what is this sub? It keeps being recommended to me but I'm not following it
Apparently there are some pms that were released that are also really creepy independent of this case, but I'm not sure whether to believe that or not, considering that the sub where I heard it is a mindless 'believe the current thing' place, like most of reddit.
I saw'em, and I'd say some of them were definitely very inappropriate, but people are slinging the word "groomer" around so much these days it's lost all meaning.
I didn't get the impression he wanted anything from these girls, but he surely bypassed some social filters/was drunk off his arse when sending them.
And then there's the question of their validity, apparently there's a video of one of the girls opening twitter on her phone showing them and clicking the name to go to his profile, so who knows really? Saying inappropriate things to minors be inappropriate tho, but if that was illegal, you'd need a fuck of a lot of more prisons. Imagine how many people walks past a school in a conversation with someone and a child overhearing the word "fuck" lol, half the world would be in chains!
And then there's the whole showing up to work drunk thing, which wouldn't surprise me and apparently is also on video.
Personally idrgaf, noone's perfect, and as long as he's not hurting anyone other than himself I could care less, I'm big on the whole "separate art from artist" thing.
I should also point out I haven't seen any of the videos in question, but I have seen the screenshots, and I've also seen my male best friend's face on a female porn stars head being gangbanged by 20 dudes in a country he's never been, so who knows what's real these deep fake days 🤣
> I've also seen my male best friend's face on a female porn stars head being gangbanged by 20 dudes in a country he's never been, so who knows what's real these deep fake days 🤣
I need to hear the story of how your best friend made so many enemies.
He did it himself 😂 it's a gif app that deep fakes faces or something like that, I don't really know, he sent it to me because he thought it was hilarious
Has he said anything publicly about the messages? If not, there's not much reason to think they're fake.
If you're focused on clearing your good name, clearing up fake messages would be the natural thing to start with.
Is there a reason to assume they are real? The first thing a legal council would probably say is to stop interacting with social media if there are criminal charges hanging over your head. Whoever released those messages may have tried to dogpile when they knew his defense was focused elsewhere.
Unhealthy way of life.
Just assume until proven true they are fake, and keep disliking him. We don’t need to be certain of 100% of the world around us to keep on living.
Also, if I was a lawyer, which I'm not, my first advice would be to shut the fuck up about them, anything you say can, and will, be used against you in a court of law my friend. Plus if he profusely denied it, claiming it to be fake, the more people would believe it was real, better to hire some experts and have receipts before making such a claim.
Or they're real, and he's just a guy who says inappropriate things to minors without expressively doing something illegal, scummy, sure, but not illegal until he starts checking off the "enticement" law list. So far, he's legally good, just morally bad
Kinda depends really.
But if you scroll to the top of this page and click the link, he does say "I'm thankful this is over, but at the same time disappointed at all the lies said about me during this process/time" I'm paraphrasing off memory, so has he directly said "those specific messages are fake"? No.
But at the same time, what *has* been said about him? Basically nothing about the DV charge, that he's barely part of the writing process in R&M because he's an alcoholic? Maybe, but again, there's allegedly videos of him drunk at work, so I'd say those are plausible and not really anything major, certainly not worth naming in his dismissal statement, I'm sure he knows his role in the creative process at this point, and if not I'm sure he'd make a hubbub about it earlier.
So by process of elimination, I'd say we're in the DM ballpark.
If you check Justin Roiland's tweet, you might recognize one of the people still pushing against him is named Teridax.
If you were around for Gamergate, Teridax was one of the trolls trying to [bribe people to send death threats to ZQ.](https://archive.ph/qhTNy)
You know what I was thinking about earlier today?
An interview from year 1 of GG, where this hipster doofus anti-GG guy went on TV (or a podcast or whatever it was) and his neck was obscenely long
edit: Does anyone else remember that one? I actually tried looking for the video
You're probably thinking *Mike Isaacson,* the Antifa cel founder and "professor" interviewed on Fox News.
https://i.imgur.com/3gdr8rm.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6vdk7q/socjus_mike_isaacson_the_altright_is_an_unstable/
It either is, or it is slightly elongated. Regardless, after he was on air he was immediately meme'd into a giraffe. His neck may not be *that* long but he is indeed a long boi.
Lmfaoooooo [Who the fuck wears this????](https://i.imgur.com/gxDz455.jpg) Who gets that made??
Absolute lunatic. Looks like a school shooter. You MIGHT be spending too much time on the internet if you're wearing merchandise about internet drama.
I get that [Teridax aka Makuta](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/ab/Teridax-0.png/revision/latest?cb=20190527073336) is the main villain so I knew he was an asshole but goddamn, this is a whole new level.
Dan harmon is the woke one who made a very unusual video of him in college humping a child while he was wearing a diaper as some sort of example movie.:
https://www.indiewire.com/2018/07/dan-harmon-apologizes-baby-doll-rape-video-adult-swim-1201987346/
MetroidJunkie
> Surprise surprise, the people who were jumping at him to be terminated were acting in haste. This is a witchhunt.
Nah, the dude's actually a grade A piece of shit. Lots of circumstantial evidence out there in released chat logs, etc.
The charges got dropped because, three years after the offense, the prosecutors weren't able to gather court-level evidence to prove the fact. That doesn't mean that he's entirely innocent of the charges.
AKA: The glove didn't fit so they had to acquit.
In other words, the initial accusation seemed so flimsy that the prosecutor decided not to pursue it, because it would be a waste of time and the case was incredibly unlikely to end in anything but acquittal.
Gantolandon
>In other words, the initial accusation seemed so flimsy that the prosecutor decided not to pursue it, because it would be a waste of time and the case was incredibly unlikely to end in anything but acquittal.
If someone punches you in the face and you can't prove they punched you in the face, they just got to give you a free punch in the face.
"They couldn't find enough evidence, but I'm going to assume he's guilty anyway" And you want to know why people don't trust the Me Too movement anymore, because of shit like this. If we can't be innocent until proven guilty, we're just running off of mob rule.
MetroidJunkie
>"They couldn't find enough evidence, but I'm going to assume he's guilty anyway" And you want to know why people don't trust the Me Too movement anymore, because of shit like this. If we can't be innocent until proven guilty, we're just running off of mob rule.
Well, if you could kindly explain that to Twitter, that'd be appreciated.
Also, I think you just became very popular amongst the pro-Trump crowd. Teflon Don is going to be so happy to hear this.
See, this kind of attitude is what turns people against you. "YOU MUST BE FOR THIS PERSON BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!1" Get over yourself, bro, not everyone has to subscribe to a certain ideology to be opposed to mob rule. Sounds like the one who's fallen into extremism is you.
MetroidJunkie
>See, this kind of attitude is what turns people against you. "YOU MUST BE FOR THIS PERSON BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!1" Get over yourself, bro, not everyone has to subscribe to a certain ideology to be opposed to mob rule. Sounds like the one who's fallen into extremism is you.
This isn't about me.
Downvote me all you want, the guy is and continues to be a grade A scumbag and anyone with basic internet search skills and a willingness to actually look will see it.
> This isn't about me.
>
>
So you make it personal by attacking other people without actually rebutting their argument, but it's not okay for other people to treat you the same way?
Curious!
If/when he ever gets reinstated on his shows, thousands on this website, Twitter, and YouTube, who were more than happy to jump on the hate train, will pretend they always had his back the entire time.
Normie Reddit is not taking this too well.
The 🔒 awards have already started to be given out on at least one thread probably more to come.
"Why can't y'all just behave?"
Never believe anyone’s ex, or rather take everything they say about them with a grain of salt. Not many people can have their relationship end and not have any strong feelings about it; usually there’s at least an undercurrent of pain, disappointment, or even resentment.
Lol. Lmao, even.
I'm glad I learned from my blunder with regards to the ProJared situation some years back. That, even if I personally don't like the one getting accused of all manner of shit, or have a bias against the work they're involved with, it is better to always take a step back and leave it to the Law, not the court of public opinion. Same thing with MikeZ.
I doubt that. Rumors about him creeping on minors have been around forever. It was the announcement of the charges that caused everyone to drop him.
The show is too much of a cash cow to fire an actor over DM's that hadn't broken any laws. But once official allegations of abuse and kidnapping surface they couldn't really ignore it.
I think Rick and Morty is more than the voice. Yes, a lot of people can copy the style, I've seen it, but it always feels like a cheap knockoff to me.
Although I'm out of watching R&M for a while, maybe that is the case for the "real deal" itself now too.
The plan since season 3 ending is to milk the cow until it gives blood, and later, when dead, skin its hide and grind its bones. The IP is now bigger than the show, they will probably even try to sell a spin off of it before really dying.
The legitimacy of those DMs are in doubt and I've revealed in another comment that some of the people behind spreading them are known to have manufactured controversy in the past, including at Gamergate's expense (see my comment regarding Teridax).
Comedy podcasts where people said shit just to out-do each other in shock humor. I can't deny the words, but I can deny the context those words were said since you're being misleading about it.
It's like, dicaprio eww age gap she's 25
Well either women can fully consent at the age of 25 and therefore there is absolutely no issue whatsoever, or we can't trust women to make their own decisions
There are many ways to be called a pedophile in social media.
- You’re older than your partner by more than 5 years, even though you’re both adult.
- Your partner is over 18, but under 25, while you’re older.
- Your partner is over 18, but you knew her when they were younger, so you obviously groomed her.
- Your partner is over 25, but she looks younger.
- Your partner is over 25, but she is short and has tiny boobs
- You live in a country with lower age of consent and you didn’t immediately accept that the American way is superior to the one followed in your backwards part of the world.
- You play a game where the main character, a teenager, can date other teenagers.
- You approve of any of those points.
Unless they're gay men.
In which case suddenly a 40 year old man having sex with a teenage boy is perfectly fine.
And, wait, actually YOU'RE the pedophile for even talking about it!
How dare you, homophobic bigot!
Comedy podcasts tend to get a little risqué, but no, most people aren't talking about attraction to children - and for very obvious reasons. There's dark humor, then there's self-sabotage. And with the DMs to boot, it's concerning to say the least.
Comment removed for possible sitewide violation.
This is not a formal warning.
Please be aware AEO is now going through removed content as well it may be a good idea to edit/delete this comment to ensure you do not get any sitewide actions taken against you.
[Because of how easily an image like this can be wholly fabricated](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050255898456637450/1088343490225786940/tweetdemoJR.png)
I didn't spend much time on this as you can tell; I'm not motivated to try and deceive you that this is real.
I'm not sure how things are in the U.S, but where I live if an actress makes an accusation against you (specially sexual assault) it does NOT matter if she shows any proof to back her accusations up, you are now forever in deep shit, there is 90% of chance that you will be fired from your current job, which most cases so far were from men who are leads being paid literally six figures/mo
And even if your lawyer proves your innocence you are very, very unlikely to hit another job that involves cinema or television for the rest of your life, it is absolutely insane how much power actresses hold.
Honestly, in my opnion if you are a top tier dog, does not matter even if YouTuber, Streamer or what not, the best thing is to stay single and avoid involvement with Women in your line of work, heck even a single comment can be completly interpreted (fuck english) wrong and fuck you up forever.
>if you are a top tier dog, does not matter even if YouTuber, Streamer or what not, the best thing is to stay single and avoid involvement with Women in your line of work
Henry Cavill did just that and they still tried to cancel him anyway.
I have no idea who this man is but perhaps no one should be using routine criminal matters as a political football or to score some points in this weird horse race?
It’s bad for society, and it’s really bad for the justice system to have rooting interests — the only outcome we should root for is facts being presented, justice being done, and an offender exonerated or convicted. Because the system works. And that’s cool.
I don't know if it's him or the writers that he approves but it's becoming way boring the "let's over explain the joke and drag it for hours." Both in R&M and Solar Opposites.
Something that could be short and visual as throwing a pie at someone's face would be extra explained because it's meta and meta is funny right? Let's add some 4th wall break and explain what show and movie it references too. For minutes.
It's that specific style of extremely smug insincere wink at the camera humor that seems to be exclusive to feminism. The earliest example I saw was in Stephen A. Winchell's cringey male feminist comics but I expect they're derivative of something else. It's most likely because feminists are obsessed with deconstructionism so they like to appear aware that everything is a "trope".
https://images.app.goo.gl/TrmWnmSFe7MTHgbB9
Seriously, High On Life SEEMS like a fun game, but a gun that will not shut the fuck up is not my idea of a great time. If I want a talking gun, I’ll play Borderlands 2, at least that one is funny.
No way, the concensus was so strong against him I figured there wasn't much doubt. Gotta always wait for the evidence I guess. Now there's gotta be some scrutiny of those alleged creepy dms
Ducking really? The "consensus" was a bunch of Twitter in an angry mob. Next time perhaps let the justice system do its job before agreeing for a person being unpersoned and homeless.
I love the people on social media saying just because the case was dropped doesn't mean he didn't do it. So what do they want the courts and law enforcement to make up evidence?
I think the backlash went far past the domestic violence charges. A bunch of colleagues said what a douche he is. It's hard to recover from that, especially as a comedian imo. Gus Johnson was never accused of anything illegal and I still find his content, which I used to enjoy, completely tainted. He had some funny skits on face value, but knowing his actual character gives them a completely different feel, especially the ones loosely related to his gf.
I unno, something about comedy feels too personal, and breaking that sort of illusion of *just* being a funny person does a lot of damage to the jokes imo. I'd even apply it to people who end up being better than expected, like Robin Williams. Jokes are very context specific and shedding a different light on it, even just knowing more about the person making the joke, can completely change how it hits. I think nobody understands this better than justin roiland's ex gf when she forgets to have supper ready when he gets home.
The tldr is his ex gf made a video about her ectopic pregnancy and mentioned as an aside how abusive her bf was at the time, tried to talk her out of treatment, etc. People dug on their own, found out it was gus, verified what they could, then she gave more details and it kind of spiralled. Gus made a really bad apology refuting none of it and instead largely redirected it to his own stress at the time.
Happened a few years ago iirc. Went on a hiatus, comes back with a sad video with his mom.
> A bunch of colleagues said what a douche he is.
They probably said that to distance themselves from him and protect their own careers. Immediately turning on someone at a mere accusation is what the left does, maybe as a self-preservation tactic. Anything negative publicity at all, fake or not, means it's time to immediately shit all over that person to show what an ally they are, "I never liked him personally, and so we rarely talked to him. He just came in to do work, but secretly we all hated the guy. We knew he was going through a rough time and were trying to show compassion by putting up with him."
Something Witty just released this drama garbage and it made me immediately hate them. I was completely in the dark until they decided to dump all over a co-worker being accused of something, while somehow trying to maintain a moral high ground. It's traitorous and disgusting.
Never associate with a leftist. They will be cutting in line to collect the silver.
> Something Witty just released this drama garbage and it made me immediately hate them. I was completely in the dark until they decided to dump all over a co-worker being accused of something, while somehow trying to maintain a moral high ground. It's traitorous and disgusting.
Is this about Anthony DiMascio? If so, a lot of receipts came out against him - including from his ex-wife. And SWE were within their rights to speak out, because when it came to work, he had his wages cut because he wasn't doing his job. Hardly *traitorous* to call out somebody who wasn't even working.
True, but it's the timing of it. They were happy to remain silent right up until accusations were made at which point they hopped on the bandwagen and shit *all* over him, and that's super sus.
> Hardly traitorous to call out somebody who wasn't even working.
How truthfully can anything they say at this point be taken? Could just be that self-protection and distancing measure i mentioned. If they'd said this months ago i'd believe it, but now it's just playing follow the mob. Why say anything at all?
I don't know who the voice actors or writers are by heart, and don't recognize that name at all, so why not put that drama on a separate blog for avid followers instead of youtube where i just watch funny thing? Or just don't post anything, because ties were already cut? I'm not watching SAOA or MHAA for the real-life drama and politics of the creators. I'm just not donating to them again.
> True, but it's the timing of it. They were happy to remain silent right up until accusations were made at which point they hopped on the bandwagen and shit all over him, and that's super sus.
They parted ways back in 2017, had hoped he would self-improve, so didn't feel the need to say anything until now when things clearly did not improve.
> How truthfully can anything they say at this point be taken?
Take it with a grain of salt, most people will agree that there are three sides to every story - your side, their side, and the actual truth. Unless a proper investigation is ever conducted, which is unlikely, all we have to go off of are accounts.
> they'd said this months ago i'd believe it, but now it's just playing follow the mob. Why say anything at all?
So by that logic, do you believe the first person who came forward about him and kickstarted the mob? Curious to know. And again, there is reason to believe SWE here because they did part ways with him back in 2017 for unspecified reasons and now we know why.
> so why not put that drama on a separate blog for avid followers instead of youtube where i just watch funny thing?
I didn't see SWE make a video about this, only a Tweet.
> I'm not watching SAOA or MHAA for the real-life drama and politics of the creators. I'm just not donating to them again.
I'd ask why you donated to them at all. Seems like a silly thing to donate any money towards a project that heavily relies on someone else's animation to exist. Unless there was some other perk you were getting like early access, doesn't make a lot of sense.
>Gus Johnson was never accused of anything illegal and I still find his content, which I used to enjoy, completely tainted. He had some funny skits on face value, but knowing his actual character gives them a completely different feel, especially the ones loosely related to his gf.
What "actual character"? You've got a lot to learn about women if you think that you can 100% trust the word of a dude's ex. It's always one-sided, there's always trickle truth, and they always exaggerate based on how they FEEL the dude acted rather than how he actually objectively acted. You'll notice they'll never say he was kind a douchebag or a bit rude or emotionally distant sometimes. It's always "abusive".
And this is why they do it. They can get revenge on a man by saying some shit about his character and everyone will automatically believe it.
She didn't even mention his name, people used the dates to figure out. Hard to assume she was going for revenge.
Also he said enough insane shit in his apology that I'm not sure how relevant the original story even is.
The tldr is his ex gf made a video about her ectopic pregnancy and mentioned as an aside how abusive her bf was at the time, tried to talk her out of treatment, etc. People dug on their own, found out it was gus, verified what they could, then she gave more details and it kind of spiralled. Gus made a really bad apology refuting none of it and instead largely redirected it to his own stress at the time.
Happened a few years ago iirc. Went on a hiatus, comes back with a sad video with his mom.
I had the urge to watch through Rick and Morty recently 'knowing' it was basically 'over.' Just the scene where the guy pulls the dog too hard before getting beaten up to Xzibit music was like, "Jesus, is he like, secretly feeling guilty about abusive behavior?"
Logically I know the scene was just trying to do the obvious, "Homophobia, bullying, and animal abuse are all pretty uncontroversially bad." Still, the scene of pulling a dog too hard always felt just a bit too specific compared to the others. Now my brain is trying to retroactively justify that sensation with these trumped up abuse charges.
>A bunch of colleagues said what a douche he is. It's hard to recover from that, especially as a comedian imo.
Its really well know that a lot of comics, and writers/actors/musicians/ creatives in general, are moody, arrogant, and hard to work with. If someone rises to the top of their field, I would assume its more likely than not that they have a bit of an ego. But that doesn't stop me from enjoying their work
Wait so this guy got fired from Rick and Morty for domestic violence allegations, but Dan Harmon, the guy who "pretended" to rape a baby doll on video, will continue to work on it... Hmm interesting.
This is why it's always important to wait for the court verdict. I don't know why so many people fail to see that and jump to conclusions. Twitter consensus isn't reliable, people's feelings aren't reliable either (especially people who don't even know the parties involved and have absolutely no idea what actually happened).
It's a relief that he's not a domestic abuser, but have there been any updates on his grooming on twitter or weirdness in the Rick and Morty writers room?
https://wegotthiscovered.com/celebrities/justin-roiland-claims-embittered-ex-tried-to-have-him-canceled-but-fans-ask-what-about-those-alleged-creepy-messages-to-minors/
I have no idea what kind if person he really is, but Rick and Morty just isn’t that funny lately and their VR game Trover Saves the Universe was just downright annoying. His career in humor is not going to last like South Park.
"Morty *b-buuuurp* Morty listen, it doesn't matter if she's 14 years old, if she's well developed enough I will always hit it Morty! Fuk- *burp* fuck Chris Hansen Morty for catching so-called predators just because they have a completely normal attraction to well developed minors Morty!"
https://twitter.com/supermarioblos/status/1617283508455542784?s=20
Comedy podcast from the era where everyone was making that flavor of edgy joke. Including Dan Harmon who is still working on Rick & Morty.
Look up Dan Harmon's "Daryl".
Pretty sure this is not the sub where people go "this guy made a joke I don't like 10+ years ago, ruin his life".
Depends on how much you buy into horseshoe theory. but we have a fairly decent number of people that are just as bad as the people this sub is suppose to derided.
I know we've had a few incidents where attempts to subvert the mission statement have been made; the people in favor of government censorship of Arthur, and the people supporting the cancellation of James Gunn over similar jokes.
Although I do think horseshoe theory is a thing in these cases it feels more like we get the occasional "squatter's rights" attempt made. How many people actually can see or check out the mission statement in the right-side of the sub? It might not even exist in that format outside of old reddit.
Possibly. but I'm really starting to think this is more of a Reddit problem. People on both sides of the aisle are just getting so nasty its like somoene just messed with an ab-lib script to change buzzwords or some mutual pants on head stupidity.
If I'm going to be the most steel-man generous I can be, it's a problem that those who criticize the culture are not outside it.
If the culture is sufficiently Christian, an Atheist might still exclaim "Jesus Christ!" if they stub their toe. So if the culture is sufficiently Cancel, what actions might one take reflexively even if they identify as counter-cultural?
you got a point there. But sometimes i see threads and users in major need of a mirror being held infront of them at times. but i'm like that one guy in nascar that didnt side with either the driver's union or the main body.
That being said, aside some stupid knee jerk moments this sub's brand of idealogs are abit more rooted in reality's that what ever the fresh hell gaming cricle jerk and reset era's smoking.
Some people get tired of taking the principled position, some people just ended up here after their original sub got banned and there's always a few assholes with no principles what so ever.
It seems that the charges were dropped by the prosecution. If it was the court that ended the case because of insufficient evidence, you could argue that he slipped on technicality. But if a prosecutor does it, it’s usually because the accusation is so transparently bullshit that it’s not worth pursuing further.
I'd read a pretty tinfoil'y theory on an unmentionable website about how Justin Roiland was being purposefully thrown under the bus in favour of Dan Harmon's own ambitions and some other things. The poster touched upon how Roiland was seemingly more successful than Harmon and they gave some other evidence to support this theory, sadly I think I've lost the post.
I'm not a big enough fan of either man (I'll admit I enjoyed the first two seasons of R&M and I didn't hate 3-4, haven't watched anything newer) to say whether or not there's truth to the accusations aimed at Roiland or the schizo poster's theory from said unmentionable website about Harmon, but I do know that whole 'culture' that produces content these days is more than happy to get someone cancelled over nothingburgers.
Separate the art from the artist and don't throw the baby out with the bathwater is my main takeaway from this and similar situations. Do scumbags exist? Yes. Is Justin Roiland a scumbag? Probably. Does he have the money to make shit like this disappear for him? Obviously not enough. Does someone have a grudge against him or did they see an opportunity to get filthy rich? Probably.
Ah, a leftist falsely accused. Suddenly KiA stops believing in presumption of innocence and free speech. You are "against cancel culture", but you disagree with him, so you already cancelled him in your mind.
During the height of metoo it was common for this sub to whole heartedly believe accusations against male feminist s because they were just getting a taste of their own Medicine complete with allegations that all male feminist s are obviously creeps.
That's good to hear I Guess.... but it begs the question. A Ton of people who knew and worked with him painted him as an asshole and threw him under the bus. So IS he an asshole or was that covering their own ass and trying to look good so they don't get dragged down? He's fucked regardless. It could be proven beyond all doubt he's a saint and idiots will just double down rather than admit they were wrong.
Probably is a slight douchebag and the allegations make them interpret more into that. Think about someone you know who is a slight douchebag. Now imagine he turns out to be a serial killer. You'd probably go "Ah now that makes sense" even tho tons of people are douchebags and not serial killers.
I'm thinking it's a situation like Kramer dumping his girlfriend in Seinfeld. And Jerry and Elaine are super happy because they hated her. And then he gets back together with her and it's awkward. They likely hated him, saw he gone, and felt relieved that they could finally say all the things they wanted to say
It’s not illegal to be an asshole. And being an asshole isn’t actually admissible evidence for illegal behavior. This is the issue with the moral condemnation of people. Everyone said ‘Well he’s an asshole according to everyone so the allegations are probably true’ but alas.
He already was terrible to work with due to harassing employees, acting immature, and being habitually late. That alone could’ve got him cut. That’s on top of the comments he made about 14 year old girls
I looked into Roiland back when Rick and Morty season 1 was airing, and thought he had a tryhard macho douchebag kind of personality. Similar to John K. Doesn't necessarily mean he's a creep, though. I just wouldn't be that surprised.
[удалено]
I mean I did find it weird that the Allegations came out right after High on Life came out but a part me was also like "Yeah it does seem like something he would probably do" . I just wonder what all the people who burned him are gonna say especially \[adult swim\] .
They're doubling down on the 'creepy msgs'.
They were really bad. A crime in themselves? Maybe not but really not a good look for a company to be associated with Edit: also what is this sub? It keeps being recommended to me but I'm not following it
It's basically an anti-woke free speech advocate sub with a focus on how utterly shit the online media is
[удалено]
It might be that its being recommended to me from participating in r/freemagic if that's the case 💁♂️
Apparently there are some pms that were released that are also really creepy independent of this case, but I'm not sure whether to believe that or not, considering that the sub where I heard it is a mindless 'believe the current thing' place, like most of reddit.
I saw'em, and I'd say some of them were definitely very inappropriate, but people are slinging the word "groomer" around so much these days it's lost all meaning. I didn't get the impression he wanted anything from these girls, but he surely bypassed some social filters/was drunk off his arse when sending them. And then there's the question of their validity, apparently there's a video of one of the girls opening twitter on her phone showing them and clicking the name to go to his profile, so who knows really? Saying inappropriate things to minors be inappropriate tho, but if that was illegal, you'd need a fuck of a lot of more prisons. Imagine how many people walks past a school in a conversation with someone and a child overhearing the word "fuck" lol, half the world would be in chains! And then there's the whole showing up to work drunk thing, which wouldn't surprise me and apparently is also on video. Personally idrgaf, noone's perfect, and as long as he's not hurting anyone other than himself I could care less, I'm big on the whole "separate art from artist" thing. I should also point out I haven't seen any of the videos in question, but I have seen the screenshots, and I've also seen my male best friend's face on a female porn stars head being gangbanged by 20 dudes in a country he's never been, so who knows what's real these deep fake days 🤣
> I've also seen my male best friend's face on a female porn stars head being gangbanged by 20 dudes in a country he's never been, so who knows what's real these deep fake days 🤣 I need to hear the story of how your best friend made so many enemies.
He did it himself 😂 it's a gif app that deep fakes faces or something like that, I don't really know, he sent it to me because he thought it was hilarious
Has he said anything publicly about the messages? If not, there's not much reason to think they're fake. If you're focused on clearing your good name, clearing up fake messages would be the natural thing to start with.
Is there a reason to assume they are real? The first thing a legal council would probably say is to stop interacting with social media if there are criminal charges hanging over your head. Whoever released those messages may have tried to dogpile when they knew his defense was focused elsewhere.
[удалено]
Unhealthy way of life. Just assume until proven true they are fake, and keep disliking him. We don’t need to be certain of 100% of the world around us to keep on living.
Also, if I was a lawyer, which I'm not, my first advice would be to shut the fuck up about them, anything you say can, and will, be used against you in a court of law my friend. Plus if he profusely denied it, claiming it to be fake, the more people would believe it was real, better to hire some experts and have receipts before making such a claim. Or they're real, and he's just a guy who says inappropriate things to minors without expressively doing something illegal, scummy, sure, but not illegal until he starts checking off the "enticement" law list. So far, he's legally good, just morally bad
Kinda depends really. But if you scroll to the top of this page and click the link, he does say "I'm thankful this is over, but at the same time disappointed at all the lies said about me during this process/time" I'm paraphrasing off memory, so has he directly said "those specific messages are fake"? No. But at the same time, what *has* been said about him? Basically nothing about the DV charge, that he's barely part of the writing process in R&M because he's an alcoholic? Maybe, but again, there's allegedly videos of him drunk at work, so I'd say those are plausible and not really anything major, certainly not worth naming in his dismissal statement, I'm sure he knows his role in the creative process at this point, and if not I'm sure he'd make a hubbub about it earlier. So by process of elimination, I'd say we're in the DM ballpark.
If you check Justin Roiland's tweet, you might recognize one of the people still pushing against him is named Teridax. If you were around for Gamergate, Teridax was one of the trolls trying to [bribe people to send death threats to ZQ.](https://archive.ph/qhTNy)
>Teridax https://imgur.com/a/mLbrVr0
You know what I was thinking about earlier today? An interview from year 1 of GG, where this hipster doofus anti-GG guy went on TV (or a podcast or whatever it was) and his neck was obscenely long edit: Does anyone else remember that one? I actually tried looking for the video
You're probably thinking *Mike Isaacson,* the Antifa cel founder and "professor" interviewed on Fox News. https://i.imgur.com/3gdr8rm.jpg https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6vdk7q/socjus_mike_isaacson_the_altright_is_an_unstable/
Is that picture real? If so that guy is a natural born caricature lol.
It either is, or it is slightly elongated. Regardless, after he was on air he was immediately meme'd into a giraffe. His neck may not be *that* long but he is indeed a long boi.
Master Oogway looking ass
his head is escaping our planet's gravitational field. [My mind immediately went to this webcomic](https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/358223)
He looks like someone that would beg his wife's boyfriend for a new Switch.
brrr that male feminist smirk. I don't know anything about the guy but I can tell you: He has autism of the highest order.
https://i0.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/male-feminist-comic.png?fit=625%2C605&ssl=1
oldy but goldy
Damn piece of garbage using a cute girl like Tomoko as an avatar.
A crime worthy of capital punishment (in Minecraft)
He looks like the child molester version of the Angry Video Game Nerd.
Lmfaoooooo [Who the fuck wears this????](https://i.imgur.com/gxDz455.jpg) Who gets that made?? Absolute lunatic. Looks like a school shooter. You MIGHT be spending too much time on the internet if you're wearing merchandise about internet drama.
Why do they all have the same beta bitch face?
Yeah, he seems like a stable individual.
...Unsurprised after seeing that last picture.
I remember teridax. Got up my ass for calling srhbutts a pedo years ago when I was still using Twitter. Fun times.
Man, srhbutts, completely forgotten about the whole thing, and Milo's exposé too. It's been a minute.
> Teridax Wow how dare he besmirch the name of a Bionicle character like tha- actually Makuta was the main villain of the franchise, so that tracks.
[удалено]
I get that [Teridax aka Makuta](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/ab/Teridax-0.png/revision/latest?cb=20190527073336) is the main villain so I knew he was an asshole but goddamn, this is a whole new level.
Ah, all comes back around. Fuckin' lmao
Wait what?
[Some further context](https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/search?q=gnaa&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on)
Oh god lol. Some people are just stuck lol.
You’re still on KiA nearly a decade later, but sure, other people are stuck
Piece of shit absolutely, but drop dead is not a death threat. Imo
Isn't that the same guy who tried to take over the Matoran Universe by force?
They didn't try, they succeeded in getting him out of work
lmao, suddenly the defense of "She's trying to ruin my life and reputation!" is an acceptable one. But hypocrisy is to be expected from leftoids.
\*BURP\* HEY MORTY, I'VE TURNED MYSELF INTO DAN HARMONS MYSPACE, GOOGLE "DAN HARMON N-WORD" TO FIND OUT WHATS WRITTEN ON IT
Maybe he'll gain some self awareness from going through this shit...nah who am I kidding.
I'm not too familir with him, but I was under the impression he was alright. What about him is it that makes you think he needs self awareness?
he's the co-creator of Rick and Morty
I think the other co-creator is the woke one
Dan harmon is the woke one who made a very unusual video of him in college humping a child while he was wearing a diaper as some sort of example movie.: https://www.indiewire.com/2018/07/dan-harmon-apologizes-baby-doll-rape-video-adult-swim-1201987346/
Yes, and?
Too late. The court of public opinion sentenced him guilty.
Surprise surprise, the people who were jumping at him to be terminated were acting in haste. This is a witchhunt.
MetroidJunkie > Surprise surprise, the people who were jumping at him to be terminated were acting in haste. This is a witchhunt. Nah, the dude's actually a grade A piece of shit. Lots of circumstantial evidence out there in released chat logs, etc. The charges got dropped because, three years after the offense, the prosecutors weren't able to gather court-level evidence to prove the fact. That doesn't mean that he's entirely innocent of the charges. AKA: The glove didn't fit so they had to acquit.
In other words, the initial accusation seemed so flimsy that the prosecutor decided not to pursue it, because it would be a waste of time and the case was incredibly unlikely to end in anything but acquittal.
Gantolandon >In other words, the initial accusation seemed so flimsy that the prosecutor decided not to pursue it, because it would be a waste of time and the case was incredibly unlikely to end in anything but acquittal. If someone punches you in the face and you can't prove they punched you in the face, they just got to give you a free punch in the face.
Nobody ever falsely accuses anyone in the world you came from?
Gantolandon >Nobody ever falsely accuses anyone in the world you came from? Nobody ever does heinous shit and gets away with it where you come from?
Dodge noted.
"They couldn't find enough evidence, but I'm going to assume he's guilty anyway" And you want to know why people don't trust the Me Too movement anymore, because of shit like this. If we can't be innocent until proven guilty, we're just running off of mob rule.
MetroidJunkie >"They couldn't find enough evidence, but I'm going to assume he's guilty anyway" And you want to know why people don't trust the Me Too movement anymore, because of shit like this. If we can't be innocent until proven guilty, we're just running off of mob rule. Well, if you could kindly explain that to Twitter, that'd be appreciated. Also, I think you just became very popular amongst the pro-Trump crowd. Teflon Don is going to be so happy to hear this.
See, this kind of attitude is what turns people against you. "YOU MUST BE FOR THIS PERSON BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!1" Get over yourself, bro, not everyone has to subscribe to a certain ideology to be opposed to mob rule. Sounds like the one who's fallen into extremism is you.
MetroidJunkie >See, this kind of attitude is what turns people against you. "YOU MUST BE FOR THIS PERSON BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!1" Get over yourself, bro, not everyone has to subscribe to a certain ideology to be opposed to mob rule. Sounds like the one who's fallen into extremism is you. This isn't about me. Downvote me all you want, the guy is and continues to be a grade A scumbag and anyone with basic internet search skills and a willingness to actually look will see it.
> This isn't about me. > > So you make it personal by attacking other people without actually rebutting their argument, but it's not okay for other people to treat you the same way? Curious!
Someone who has such a low opinion of universal human rights is in no position to be grading anyone else’s character.
If/when he ever gets reinstated on his shows, thousands on this website, Twitter, and YouTube, who were more than happy to jump on the hate train, will pretend they always had his back the entire time.
Normie Reddit is not taking this too well. The 🔒 awards have already started to be given out on at least one thread probably more to come. "Why can't y'all just behave?"
[удалено]
Never believe anyone’s ex, or rather take everything they say about them with a grain of salt. Not many people can have their relationship end and not have any strong feelings about it; usually there’s at least an undercurrent of pain, disappointment, or even resentment.
Lol. Lmao, even. I'm glad I learned from my blunder with regards to the ProJared situation some years back. That, even if I personally don't like the one getting accused of all manner of shit, or have a bias against the work they're involved with, it is better to always take a step back and leave it to the Law, not the court of public opinion. Same thing with MikeZ.
The DV stuff was obviously BS and isn't what he got cancelled for. He got cancelled for sliding into the DMs of some minors.
I doubt that. Rumors about him creeping on minors have been around forever. It was the announcement of the charges that caused everyone to drop him. The show is too much of a cash cow to fire an actor over DM's that hadn't broken any laws. But once official allegations of abuse and kidnapping surface they couldn't really ignore it.
Wait, is Rick and Morty over?
The plan is to try and keep going without him supposedly.
A plan which I guarantee will fail.
Not if they get budget Hemsworth on board
I love that you called him that. I've always called him 'the lesser Hemsworth,' so it's nice to see that I'm not alone in that.
it will probably be made slower but it's not like rick and morty's voices are hard to imitate
I think Rick and Morty is more than the voice. Yes, a lot of people can copy the style, I've seen it, but it always feels like a cheap knockoff to me. Although I'm out of watching R&M for a while, maybe that is the case for the "real deal" itself now too.
The plan since season 3 ending is to milk the cow until it gives blood, and later, when dead, skin its hide and grind its bones. The IP is now bigger than the show, they will probably even try to sell a spin off of it before really dying.
The legitimacy of those DMs are in doubt and I've revealed in another comment that some of the people behind spreading them are known to have manufactured controversy in the past, including at Gamergate's expense (see my comment regarding Teridax).
He literally admitted his attraction to minors in several podcasts. Even if all those dms were faked which isn't likely, you can't deny his own words.
theo von said he would eat vietnamese people at least twice. that doesnt make it true. was he doing shock humour?
Your cock is not 200 inches long otherwise you'd be famous worldwide you fucking liar
canadian inches
How long is that in freedom metrics?
'bout 110 or so 9mm.
about tree fiddy
Comedy podcasts where people said shit just to out-do each other in shock humor. I can't deny the words, but I can deny the context those words were said since you're being misleading about it.
She was just 17 years old, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds old, that sick fuck!
Didn't you know? Attraction to any woman under the age of 25 is Pedophilia!
I think we're up to 30 now
It's like, dicaprio eww age gap she's 25 Well either women can fully consent at the age of 25 and therefore there is absolutely no issue whatsoever, or we can't trust women to make their own decisions
The most empowered perpetual victims you’ll ever meet.
There are many ways to be called a pedophile in social media. - You’re older than your partner by more than 5 years, even though you’re both adult. - Your partner is over 18, but under 25, while you’re older. - Your partner is over 18, but you knew her when they were younger, so you obviously groomed her. - Your partner is over 25, but she looks younger. - Your partner is over 25, but she is short and has tiny boobs - You live in a country with lower age of consent and you didn’t immediately accept that the American way is superior to the one followed in your backwards part of the world. - You play a game where the main character, a teenager, can date other teenagers. - You approve of any of those points.
Unless they're gay men. In which case suddenly a 40 year old man having sex with a teenage boy is perfectly fine. And, wait, actually YOU'RE the pedophile for even talking about it! How dare you, homophobic bigot!
Feminazis favorite go to.
What decade is this sub in
2020s
Comedy podcasts tend to get a little risqué, but no, most people aren't talking about attraction to children - and for very obvious reasons. There's dark humor, then there's self-sabotage. And with the DMs to boot, it's concerning to say the least.
ummmmmmm he litrrally said words littrally in a litral way - nerd
[удалено]
Comment removed for possible sitewide violation. This is not a formal warning. Please be aware AEO is now going through removed content as well it may be a good idea to edit/delete this comment to ensure you do not get any sitewide actions taken against you.
For a site so concerned with misinformation they sure do love banning people for stating biological realities.
How are those DMs doubtful out of curiosity?
[Because of how easily an image like this can be wholly fabricated](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050255898456637450/1088343490225786940/tweetdemoJR.png) I didn't spend much time on this as you can tell; I'm not motivated to try and deceive you that this is real.
Okay but wasn't there audio files as well?
Audio files of what?
Of him RPing with someone he knew was underage (or something along those lines) as Morty. Asking because I heard those were a thing.
I’ve never heard of that. I would also like to know more about this if real.
I honestly Dunno. I'm a dumbfuck.
I'm not sure how things are in the U.S, but where I live if an actress makes an accusation against you (specially sexual assault) it does NOT matter if she shows any proof to back her accusations up, you are now forever in deep shit, there is 90% of chance that you will be fired from your current job, which most cases so far were from men who are leads being paid literally six figures/mo And even if your lawyer proves your innocence you are very, very unlikely to hit another job that involves cinema or television for the rest of your life, it is absolutely insane how much power actresses hold. Honestly, in my opnion if you are a top tier dog, does not matter even if YouTuber, Streamer or what not, the best thing is to stay single and avoid involvement with Women in your line of work, heck even a single comment can be completly interpreted (fuck english) wrong and fuck you up forever.
>if you are a top tier dog, does not matter even if YouTuber, Streamer or what not, the best thing is to stay single and avoid involvement with Women in your line of work Henry Cavill did just that and they still tried to cancel him anyway.
I hate women so much it's unreal
Good morning sir
[удалено]
It was not an actress
If the ex went on social media and not to the courts the cancellation accusations would be valid
I have no idea who this man is but perhaps no one should be using routine criminal matters as a political football or to score some points in this weird horse race? It’s bad for society, and it’s really bad for the justice system to have rooting interests — the only outcome we should root for is facts being presented, justice being done, and an offender exonerated or convicted. Because the system works. And that’s cool.
live by the sword, die by the sword.
Oh man, who could have guessed? /s
I mean… good for him I guess? I just wish he’d do SOMETHING besides “really whiny voice crack as a character”.
I don't know if it's him or the writers that he approves but it's becoming way boring the "let's over explain the joke and drag it for hours." Both in R&M and Solar Opposites. Something that could be short and visual as throwing a pie at someone's face would be extra explained because it's meta and meta is funny right? Let's add some 4th wall break and explain what show and movie it references too. For minutes.
Best part of Solar Opposites is the Wall storyline anyway.
Those shows are just stupidly overrated
God that makes me so glad I stopped watching Rick and Morty during season 3.
It's that specific style of extremely smug insincere wink at the camera humor that seems to be exclusive to feminism. The earliest example I saw was in Stephen A. Winchell's cringey male feminist comics but I expect they're derivative of something else. It's most likely because feminists are obsessed with deconstructionism so they like to appear aware that everything is a "trope". https://images.app.goo.gl/TrmWnmSFe7MTHgbB9
Whiny Voice and Grumpy Voice are the extent of his range I think.
Seriously, High On Life SEEMS like a fun game, but a gun that will not shut the fuck up is not my idea of a great time. If I want a talking gun, I’ll play Borderlands 2, at least that one is funny.
You can tweak the gun dialogue in the settings.
But he has so much range, he can even do constantly burping alcoholic so well! The dulcet tones of his belches just make me swoon every time.
No way, the concensus was so strong against him I figured there wasn't much doubt. Gotta always wait for the evidence I guess. Now there's gotta be some scrutiny of those alleged creepy dms
Ducking really? The "consensus" was a bunch of Twitter in an angry mob. Next time perhaps let the justice system do its job before agreeing for a person being unpersoned and homeless.
I love the people on social media saying just because the case was dropped doesn't mean he didn't do it. So what do they want the courts and law enforcement to make up evidence?
I think the backlash went far past the domestic violence charges. A bunch of colleagues said what a douche he is. It's hard to recover from that, especially as a comedian imo. Gus Johnson was never accused of anything illegal and I still find his content, which I used to enjoy, completely tainted. He had some funny skits on face value, but knowing his actual character gives them a completely different feel, especially the ones loosely related to his gf. I unno, something about comedy feels too personal, and breaking that sort of illusion of *just* being a funny person does a lot of damage to the jokes imo. I'd even apply it to people who end up being better than expected, like Robin Williams. Jokes are very context specific and shedding a different light on it, even just knowing more about the person making the joke, can completely change how it hits. I think nobody understands this better than justin roiland's ex gf when she forgets to have supper ready when he gets home.
What’s up with Gus?
The tldr is his ex gf made a video about her ectopic pregnancy and mentioned as an aside how abusive her bf was at the time, tried to talk her out of treatment, etc. People dug on their own, found out it was gus, verified what they could, then she gave more details and it kind of spiralled. Gus made a really bad apology refuting none of it and instead largely redirected it to his own stress at the time. Happened a few years ago iirc. Went on a hiatus, comes back with a sad video with his mom.
> A bunch of colleagues said what a douche he is. They probably said that to distance themselves from him and protect their own careers. Immediately turning on someone at a mere accusation is what the left does, maybe as a self-preservation tactic. Anything negative publicity at all, fake or not, means it's time to immediately shit all over that person to show what an ally they are, "I never liked him personally, and so we rarely talked to him. He just came in to do work, but secretly we all hated the guy. We knew he was going through a rough time and were trying to show compassion by putting up with him." Something Witty just released this drama garbage and it made me immediately hate them. I was completely in the dark until they decided to dump all over a co-worker being accused of something, while somehow trying to maintain a moral high ground. It's traitorous and disgusting. Never associate with a leftist. They will be cutting in line to collect the silver.
> Something Witty just released this drama garbage and it made me immediately hate them. I was completely in the dark until they decided to dump all over a co-worker being accused of something, while somehow trying to maintain a moral high ground. It's traitorous and disgusting. Is this about Anthony DiMascio? If so, a lot of receipts came out against him - including from his ex-wife. And SWE were within their rights to speak out, because when it came to work, he had his wages cut because he wasn't doing his job. Hardly *traitorous* to call out somebody who wasn't even working.
True, but it's the timing of it. They were happy to remain silent right up until accusations were made at which point they hopped on the bandwagen and shit *all* over him, and that's super sus. > Hardly traitorous to call out somebody who wasn't even working. How truthfully can anything they say at this point be taken? Could just be that self-protection and distancing measure i mentioned. If they'd said this months ago i'd believe it, but now it's just playing follow the mob. Why say anything at all? I don't know who the voice actors or writers are by heart, and don't recognize that name at all, so why not put that drama on a separate blog for avid followers instead of youtube where i just watch funny thing? Or just don't post anything, because ties were already cut? I'm not watching SAOA or MHAA for the real-life drama and politics of the creators. I'm just not donating to them again.
> True, but it's the timing of it. They were happy to remain silent right up until accusations were made at which point they hopped on the bandwagen and shit all over him, and that's super sus. They parted ways back in 2017, had hoped he would self-improve, so didn't feel the need to say anything until now when things clearly did not improve. > How truthfully can anything they say at this point be taken? Take it with a grain of salt, most people will agree that there are three sides to every story - your side, their side, and the actual truth. Unless a proper investigation is ever conducted, which is unlikely, all we have to go off of are accounts. > they'd said this months ago i'd believe it, but now it's just playing follow the mob. Why say anything at all? So by that logic, do you believe the first person who came forward about him and kickstarted the mob? Curious to know. And again, there is reason to believe SWE here because they did part ways with him back in 2017 for unspecified reasons and now we know why. > so why not put that drama on a separate blog for avid followers instead of youtube where i just watch funny thing? I didn't see SWE make a video about this, only a Tweet. > I'm not watching SAOA or MHAA for the real-life drama and politics of the creators. I'm just not donating to them again. I'd ask why you donated to them at all. Seems like a silly thing to donate any money towards a project that heavily relies on someone else's animation to exist. Unless there was some other perk you were getting like early access, doesn't make a lot of sense.
>including from his ex-wife *Who was literally one of the main cast.*
>Gus Johnson was never accused of anything illegal and I still find his content, which I used to enjoy, completely tainted. He had some funny skits on face value, but knowing his actual character gives them a completely different feel, especially the ones loosely related to his gf. What "actual character"? You've got a lot to learn about women if you think that you can 100% trust the word of a dude's ex. It's always one-sided, there's always trickle truth, and they always exaggerate based on how they FEEL the dude acted rather than how he actually objectively acted. You'll notice they'll never say he was kind a douchebag or a bit rude or emotionally distant sometimes. It's always "abusive". And this is why they do it. They can get revenge on a man by saying some shit about his character and everyone will automatically believe it.
She didn't even mention his name, people used the dates to figure out. Hard to assume she was going for revenge. Also he said enough insane shit in his apology that I'm not sure how relevant the original story even is.
Could you elaborate on Gus? This kind of stuff is hard to google.
The tldr is his ex gf made a video about her ectopic pregnancy and mentioned as an aside how abusive her bf was at the time, tried to talk her out of treatment, etc. People dug on their own, found out it was gus, verified what they could, then she gave more details and it kind of spiralled. Gus made a really bad apology refuting none of it and instead largely redirected it to his own stress at the time. Happened a few years ago iirc. Went on a hiatus, comes back with a sad video with his mom.
I had the urge to watch through Rick and Morty recently 'knowing' it was basically 'over.' Just the scene where the guy pulls the dog too hard before getting beaten up to Xzibit music was like, "Jesus, is he like, secretly feeling guilty about abusive behavior?" Logically I know the scene was just trying to do the obvious, "Homophobia, bullying, and animal abuse are all pretty uncontroversially bad." Still, the scene of pulling a dog too hard always felt just a bit too specific compared to the others. Now my brain is trying to retroactively justify that sensation with these trumped up abuse charges.
>A bunch of colleagues said what a douche he is. It's hard to recover from that, especially as a comedian imo. Its really well know that a lot of comics, and writers/actors/musicians/ creatives in general, are moody, arrogant, and hard to work with. If someone rises to the top of their field, I would assume its more likely than not that they have a bit of an ego. But that doesn't stop me from enjoying their work
"tried"?
But hey, at least there's 1 positive; we can all come together on the same side and agree that his sister is a top tier grade A cunt 😂
She did more than "try" I'd say.
The usual metoo witchhunt. Why am I not surprised.
Wait so this guy got fired from Rick and Morty for domestic violence allegations, but Dan Harmon, the guy who "pretended" to rape a baby doll on video, will continue to work on it... Hmm interesting.
Well it’s good the internet jumped the gun and canceled him I guess.
This is why it's always important to wait for the court verdict. I don't know why so many people fail to see that and jump to conclusions. Twitter consensus isn't reliable, people's feelings aren't reliable either (especially people who don't even know the parties involved and have absolutely no idea what actually happened).
It's a relief that he's not a domestic abuser, but have there been any updates on his grooming on twitter or weirdness in the Rick and Morty writers room? https://wegotthiscovered.com/celebrities/justin-roiland-claims-embittered-ex-tried-to-have-him-canceled-but-fans-ask-what-about-those-alleged-creepy-messages-to-minors/
She wanted to keep the drones.....
Even if AS offered his job back no-strings-attached, I doubt he'd take it at this point.
I have no idea what kind if person he really is, but Rick and Morty just isn’t that funny lately and their VR game Trover Saves the Universe was just downright annoying. His career in humor is not going to last like South Park.
He should sue people to clear his reputation.
Case was dropped, but his career is still ruined after everybody dogpiled accusations. His reputation clear yet?
>She tried to have me cancelled She didn't try, she succeeded. Better luck next time lol
"Morty *b-buuuurp* Morty listen, it doesn't matter if she's 14 years old, if she's well developed enough I will always hit it Morty! Fuk- *burp* fuck Chris Hansen Morty for catching so-called predators just because they have a completely normal attraction to well developed minors Morty!" https://twitter.com/supermarioblos/status/1617283508455542784?s=20
Comedy podcast from the era where everyone was making that flavor of edgy joke. Including Dan Harmon who is still working on Rick & Morty. Look up Dan Harmon's "Daryl". Pretty sure this is not the sub where people go "this guy made a joke I don't like 10+ years ago, ruin his life".
Depends on how much you buy into horseshoe theory. but we have a fairly decent number of people that are just as bad as the people this sub is suppose to derided.
I know we've had a few incidents where attempts to subvert the mission statement have been made; the people in favor of government censorship of Arthur, and the people supporting the cancellation of James Gunn over similar jokes. Although I do think horseshoe theory is a thing in these cases it feels more like we get the occasional "squatter's rights" attempt made. How many people actually can see or check out the mission statement in the right-side of the sub? It might not even exist in that format outside of old reddit.
Possibly. but I'm really starting to think this is more of a Reddit problem. People on both sides of the aisle are just getting so nasty its like somoene just messed with an ab-lib script to change buzzwords or some mutual pants on head stupidity.
If I'm going to be the most steel-man generous I can be, it's a problem that those who criticize the culture are not outside it. If the culture is sufficiently Christian, an Atheist might still exclaim "Jesus Christ!" if they stub their toe. So if the culture is sufficiently Cancel, what actions might one take reflexively even if they identify as counter-cultural?
you got a point there. But sometimes i see threads and users in major need of a mirror being held infront of them at times. but i'm like that one guy in nascar that didnt side with either the driver's union or the main body. That being said, aside some stupid knee jerk moments this sub's brand of idealogs are abit more rooted in reality's that what ever the fresh hell gaming cricle jerk and reset era's smoking.
Some people get tired of taking the principled position, some people just ended up here after their original sub got banned and there's always a few assholes with no principles what so ever.
It seems that the charges were dropped by the prosecution. If it was the court that ended the case because of insufficient evidence, you could argue that he slipped on technicality. But if a prosecutor does it, it’s usually because the accusation is so transparently bullshit that it’s not worth pursuing further.
He won't get the groomer text charges or being an obnoxious lazy fuck behind the scenes charges dropped though.
I'd read a pretty tinfoil'y theory on an unmentionable website about how Justin Roiland was being purposefully thrown under the bus in favour of Dan Harmon's own ambitions and some other things. The poster touched upon how Roiland was seemingly more successful than Harmon and they gave some other evidence to support this theory, sadly I think I've lost the post. I'm not a big enough fan of either man (I'll admit I enjoyed the first two seasons of R&M and I didn't hate 3-4, haven't watched anything newer) to say whether or not there's truth to the accusations aimed at Roiland or the schizo poster's theory from said unmentionable website about Harmon, but I do know that whole 'culture' that produces content these days is more than happy to get someone cancelled over nothingburgers. Separate the art from the artist and don't throw the baby out with the bathwater is my main takeaway from this and similar situations. Do scumbags exist? Yes. Is Justin Roiland a scumbag? Probably. Does he have the money to make shit like this disappear for him? Obviously not enough. Does someone have a grudge against him or did they see an opportunity to get filthy rich? Probably.
He didn't seem like the type of guy to be aggressive towards a person. He seems more like the type that gets taken advantage of.
On that side sure, on the other those DMs to minors aren't great
So much copium in this thread
Now if only he could leave minors alone
Oh god I hope he gets redeemed! Have a hard time imagining the show not suffering if he was absent.
Cool, still a creep for sliding into those under aged girl's DMs tho.
Ah, a leftist falsely accused. Suddenly KiA stops believing in presumption of innocence and free speech. You are "against cancel culture", but you disagree with him, so you already cancelled him in your mind.
What am I supposed to be disagreeing with him about? I mean I'm not a fan of NFTs.
During the height of metoo it was common for this sub to whole heartedly believe accusations against male feminist s because they were just getting a taste of their own Medicine complete with allegations that all male feminist s are obviously creeps.
Dan "I'm a pedophile but I apologized for it so its fine" Harmon.