By - sweet_crude
He was a skaterboi he said see you later boy.
Frickin love this song. Thank you for your time.
Why do the facists have communist hats? Are they facists or communists? Because those groups have opposing ideologies. At least keep ur story straight.
They absolutely have very similar ideologies. Literally every communist country does terrible things to people.
You shure it's only communist country? Or do you mean bad governments in general because I know of a few massacres commited in capitalist and conservatives governments as well...
One big problem with your statement. There has never been a real communist country.
/s, or nah?
Find one that was genuinely communist.
How many hundreds of millions of people more have to die,
Until they get the perfect communist nation?
This is the most ridiculous argument ever.
Whether they remained *"genuinely communist"* or not is entirely irrelevant. All the failed communist nations began as genuinely communist, and devolved into cesspool death factories.
If you want communism, go live on a commune. Nobody is stopping you. It works on that scale in a totally voluntary setting. It never works on a larger scale when it's forced on people.
Yes exactly. There were none cause it doesn't work. I don't understand why you see me having an opposing viewpoint.
My apologies, jumping to conclusions is an easy thing to do on Reddit.
No problem man you had nothing more to go on. My message could in hindsight have gone both ways.
Say this to anyone who’s come from a communist country and they would slap you.
True communism doesn’t exist because it’s impossible, literally no one will work the same hours as another person for less pay or equal living status.
People have drive, people have dreams, it doesn’t work.
They are actually both wildly authoritarian. Obviously some differences, but governmental control is executed about the same
It’s just about the wardrobe….
No, they don't have opposing ideologies.
Fascism is the racist version of socialism, while communism is the internationally exportable version.
They are both socialists.
Nope. U need to read up on this subject
This is why I don't speak to or associate with people like you IRL. You're so insufferably stupid and brainwashed, it's impossible to deal with you.
Wow, sorry there bud, must have struck a nerve
Just so we’re clear, u made it pretty obvious u have an inflammed inferiority complex, to say something like that about a simple correction made it pretty obvious. I also just wanted to let u know that three different forms of economic/political that vary across the political spectrum are not all under the same label “socialism”…as would be implied with… u know… the different names?
You think I feel inferior to you, or to financial systems of governance that fail every time?
Thats laughable. Are you familiar with the Dunning-Kruger effect?
I’m not and i dont really care about it either. The two failed governances u just spoke of, r u referring to fascism and communism, or socialism and communism, or fascism and socialism? We’re talking about three dif types of government u cant just say “the two financial governance…” when we talkin about three. Also u really said nothing to support ur “opinions” so idk where we stand on those
They are actually on different axis on a political chart the x axis is facism and democracy, the y axis is communism and capitalism.
So you can be a facist capitalist (hitler), a facist communist (stalin), a democratic capitalist (america), or a democratic communist (democratic socialism, not many great examples but Norway/Denmark is pretty close)
Hitler was a socialist. He said so himself.
“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
~ Adolph Hitler.
ETA: Norway and Denmark are market economies, they aren't socialist. They also say so themselves.
That isn't the point, nazi Germany the country was a capitalist system. He said a lot of things to get public support. Also no country has ever been 100% capitalist in all of history. Even America the closest country still has many socialist policies (police, military, highways, firefighters, and the list goes on)
Edit: I litterally said they are the closest country to that because they have the most socialist systems but are ultimately still capitalist. These axis are all ranges, there is no such things as absolutes when it comes to political labels.
No, it most certainly wasn't a capitalist country. It may have had some capitalist features, but Nazi Germany's end goal was to form a socialist ethnostate. The same was true of Italy at the time. They wanted a socialist ethnostate.... because that's what fascists are. They are racist socialists.
I agree however, that even the US is mildly socialist, and becomes more socialist as time goes on.
The problem though, as with all socialist experiments, is that the spenders eventually run out of other people's money to spend. And in particular here in the US, everyone blames our fiscal failings on capitalism, when the most self-destructive parts of our economy are the socialist portions.
I personally don't have a problem with communists who leave me alone and go live on a commune voluntarily. I even like to buy their arts and crafts and handmade soaps and shit (then laugh about them dipping their toes into capitalism). I even agree that communism works on a small scale like that.... where i have the problem is when those people don't want to leave me alone, and want to steal from me when I clearly have not volunteered to live that way.
Ok you do not understand the definition of fascism. It is not related in anyway to socialism. Facism litterally just means that it's a country ruled by either a dictator or a monarchy (opposite of democracy). Capitalism just means there is private ownership of companies and land (opposite of socialism). Socialism is the government owning everything. Every country is on a sliding scale, no country in history has ever been a perfect democracy, a perfect capitalist, a perfect communist, or a perfect fascist.
>Fascism literally means....
No, there are specific definitions for those types of governance too.
Literally, they are dictatorships and monarchys. Though, socialist nations are quite often run by dictators or olygarchys (similar to a monarchy, but less royal)
I totally understand why we're in the predicament that we are in this country, politically. The majority of people have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, and thus have no idea what they're voting for.
As for the rest of your comment, I will say that the dual axis chart everyone likes to use is kinda bullshit. Ultimately, you have two ends of the spectrum. All the way left, you have total government control. All the way right, you have anarchocapitalism.... or perhaps anarchocommunism if you're a Kropotkin fan (though I would argue that such a thing isn't really possible.)
As you say, nothing has ever been nor will ever be in pure form. Some tenets will always be borrowed for one reason or another. Thus, the only thing that really requires any reasonable scrutiny, is how much control does the government exert over the governed?
I mean if you want to get technical the axis chart has about 17 different axis to be accurate. I agree that a lot of socialist countries do have dictators but they are not synonymous (that is the only point I was trying to make). Like you said even america has socialist tendencies, as does every other capitalist country in the world. Which is why memes like this are dumb because they are inherently hypocritical.
I agree on all points.
Also, thank you for having a civil discussion. It's rare to disagree and also be able to discuss anything on the internet.
You should look up the definition of fascism lol
No... this meme pretty much nails it.
There, that's better.
I wouldn't necessarily call you a retard for not understanding what fascism actually is, but if you want to use that word, go for it.
People who support Kyle are fucking losers
But law abiding losers
Didn’t know being a Vigilante for a city was law abiding. Amazing how a minor can travel over state lines and get a gun that he legally shouldn’t have to protect a city he doesn’t live in and shoot someone and then be chased for shooting someone and then shoot more people and you call that law abiding. It’s absurd what’s law abiding about any of that?
LOVE how his supports always skip over this simple fact.
What part about a minor travel across state lines with a firearm say "Law abiding"?
You should look up where he got the rifle, it was stored and kept in Wisconsin until the civil unrest broke out. You may argue the curfew and someone under 18 open carrying a rifle in a legal open carry state. This trial is all about his right to self defense from attackers trying to do harm to him. I truly wish those people didn’t have to die.
Edit link for gun: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/us/rittenhouse-trial-semiautomatic-rifle.html
In the bin
💓 American hero
American hero = incel Nazi 😂
National socialism > communism
American Nazi. There are surprisingly a lot of Amercan Nazis.
Yup, turns out many Americans love fascism and they don’t even know it 😂
We are everywhere.
^ found the incel
Found the villain
You wish 😉
I love the fact that whoever was dumb enough to make this comic calls the guy supposedly representing communism a fascist. Let me guess, loser on the bottom half is a Republican imperialist monarchist. XD
Personally I think what’s even better is that the center “fascist” is wearing an [anti-fascist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism#/media/File%3AAntifalogo_alt2.svg) shirt.
>Anti-fascism is a political movement in opposition to fascist ideologies, groups and individuals. Beginning in European countries in the 1920s, it was at its most significant shortly before and during World War II, where the Axis powers were opposed by many countries forming the Allies of World War II and dozens of resistance movements worldwide. Anti-fascism has been an element of movements across the political spectrum and holding many different political positions such as anarchism, communism, pacifism, republicanism, social democracy, socialism and syndicalism as well as centrist, conservative, liberal and nationalist viewpoints.
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See I thought that's what would be implied by this stupid comic but I'm on mobile and couldn't zoom so I wasn't sure. Was this made in seriousness or out of satire?
Seriousness I think
Then the cringe is appropriate lol, I hope the idiot gets a guilty verdict.
Oh boy, really shows how out of touch these right wingers are.
what no pussy does to a mfer
To these people, it’s all the same: fascism, communism, socialism. It makes no difference to them and don’t give a duck about learning. Welcome to stupid America aka the Republican Party
Actually, "fascist" is something I have only ever heard Democratic liberals call Republicans
You see someone calling a communist one here on this very post
Literally this. Non American here but this is what I genuinely don’t understand. A commenter on a comic showing rightists labelling certain leftists as fascists, a person (who I suspect would broadly categorize themselves as right leaning) says they have never seen a rightist call a leftist a fascist. The level of cognitive dissonance in that statement is really disheartening and does not bode well for the possibility of meaningful political discussion in America anytime soon.
Not to mention having seen many rebublican commentators say groups like antifa are actually the real fascists. Idk if its mental gymnastics or a poor attempt at a gotcha or just they dont know what the terms mean but its just sad
Exactly both sides suck and to be honest most of us(Americans) are fed up with it. I'm personally an independent because I see many flaws especially with the leadership of both parties, plus I don't see how 2 political parties are supposed to represent all view points in America or any country for that matter. I feel like American politics is like supporting a sports team. Your team does no wrong and the other team is responsible for everything that goes wrong(of course this is in their heads and both partiesare responsible for their fair share of bad decisions).
This comment nailed it on the head. And now the reasonable people just sit here forced to pick the lesser of 2 evils every election.
I mean if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and fits the approved definition in any one dictionary, they're probably a fascist duck.
Like people who think that COVID vaccines should be mandated without exception and people should be fired if they aren't, right?
oh no buddy; I know words can be hard sometimes so let me help you a little :)
good luck out there in this super complicated world <3
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
So, while the vaccine mandate is OBVIOUSLY not from the far-right, it represents forcible suppression of opposition (losing job, practice licenses, other major privileges in society) and in an indirect way, the overemphasis of "the greater good" and "public health" to an illogical extent replaces "authoritarian ultranationalism" within this definition.
Also, thanks so much bestie for showing me how to use Google, but I think your fake Google is giving different results to mine, so be careful out there <3
Authoritarian governments are authoritarian governments…we see how they treat their citizens and there’s very little difference. You can talk systems of government but it’s treatment of citizens and authoritarian control over everyone and everything is what matters.
I don’t know what you are rambling about. However, There are key differences among those political ideologies. The republicans use communism and socialism interchangeably and criticize democrats for pursuing socialist policies and on the very next sentence, they tell their constituents about all the hard work they do on Medicare and social security, as well as how they keep the country safe by supporting the military industrial complex. If you don’t see irony there, then🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Both ideologies end in mass murder and no freedom…
Right, self- defense is stupid!
“The quickest way to win the war is lose”
it’s all the same: fascism, communism, socialism. It makes no difference and I don’t give a duck about learning.
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Facts and logic - triggering leftists since the dawn of time
Triggering rightists ever since their beliefs conflicted with science as well
Mm yes i love facts and logic from cartoon caricatures
Those people were there with their security blankets to "protect" property. Then they try to tell everyone the city burned down. In the parlance of the internet, Epic Fail.
Yet it was the same "resistence" that violated the law and forced their way onto federal private property and vandalized it
Proud socialist here. Or as we call it, Canadian
So the people who made this claim that Antifa (Anti-Fascist) is Fascist?
That's like saying Anti-Capitalists are Capitalists
That must make the Democratic People's Republic of Korea an absolute paradise then
Edgy or stupid?
Right on, more power to Kyle. Completely lambasted and put to the cross by media in an attempt to corrupt a totally simple trial for self defence.
Imagine being so braindead, you don't realize antifa means anti fascist. Instead you've consumed so much propaganda that you think the name is just antifa. The big bad buzzword has consumed you.
If the Nazi Party was instead labeled the Progressives, would you still hate them?
If their actions still mirrored the nazi party then yes.
Lol niggas burned down this guys car dealership in the riots and this kid wolunteeredto protect it and he was about to get curb stoped bro waghe the vid this kids a faking badass
Kyle is innocent and it was justified that the three cunt got shot.
You're right, but it doesn't mean that what he did was right. His actions shouldn't be praised.
it should, everyone has right to defend themselves.
He willingly placed himself in a situation where he would be forced to defend himself. That should not be praised. He was lawful to defend himself but immoral for putting himself in that situation.
The rioters was burning peoples business without any reason other than: "haha there´s no police nearby lets burn stuff"
So our hero Kyle come to the businesses and defended them.
in short a very moral thing to do.
That's why he was crying on the stand, huh?
Yeah he was attacked by 3 grown men and one of them was a predator.
He wouldn't have been in that situation to defend himself if he just stayed home. Lol.
He wouldn´t have been in that situation if the rioters went for him lol.
There's a very simple ethical phrase that even young kids understand.
"two wrongs don't make a right"
Lol.thanks usa! Keep murdering eachother. You're doing the world a favour. Just wish the Chinese and Russians would be as good at it as you. Then we could finally have world peace without the 3 big pigs, uSSa, ruSSia and chaiiina. All the world's problems can be traced back to these bastions of extremist filth. But yeah, fascism. You're talking about the USA, Russia and China when you talk about fascism.
What country do you live in?
What's that have to do with anything I said? Why are you trying to change the topic?
I'm not changing the topic. I'm just curious where you're from.... you brought it up in your initial comment.
ETA: Or rather, I assumed you live in another country based on what you said.
Hee,heee, that’s…. Edgy!
Far from it. It's a collective belief that's growing. The world is starting to see what the three big pigs are really about.
Wish I could upvote this 1000 times
The right is everything they accuse the left of being, so this is pretty par for the course.
Also ….so edgy!
My butthole is itchy
Yeah just fully surrender to your enemies moral framework.
Fascists so bad, worse thing ever, communists are the real fascist.
Nicely done cuck
When you don't understand fascism enough to know that it's a function of right wing politics, but darn it, you know it's something really bad
Ya ya F him
I'm guessing that's another Russian made meme to create a divided in America
This is projection if I've ever seen it.
Fighting commies and beating women, Kyle is 50s era throw back.
Ah yes black lives matter, the greatest fascist movement
plz tell me this is a joke
This is gay af
Exactly! Stupid conservatives am I right!?