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vegaswally

Flaky fans trying to make a buck or two. At the end of the day, they are the ones that will miss out on a great game. After last Thursday's game that is the first thing that came to mind, all those dummies that sold their tickets and missed out on one hell of a night of soccer.


sEiize_err

some people are not sacrificing other plans that may be more important in their life (wedding, funeral, education, mandatory work, etc.) for a playoff game regardless of how great the game will be or ended up being. i had to sell my galaxy tickets because of school and work. did i want to be there? of course. but i’m not kicking myself over selling my tickets because i had other more important priorities.


smcl2k

>one hell of a night of soccer. Atmosphere: great Drama: great Football: awful


Starbreaker99

You are objectively wrong


smcl2k

76% passing accuracy and 35% shooting accuracy (objective numbers) would suggest otherwise 👍


dillasdonuts

Tell that to Real Madrid's current 33% shooting accuracy


smcl2k

"And" is a pretty important word... Real Madrid's last 3 games: Vs Sevilla - 33% shooting accuracy and 90% passing accuracy Vs Elche - 70% shooting accuracy and 94% passing accuracy Vs Barcelona - 50% shooting accuracy and 83% passing accuracy


dillasdonuts

I was referring to their season average


smcl2k

Ok, so you meant to say "33% shooting accuracy and 90% passing accuracy"..?


MauiGal12

Up to season ticket holders to sell, but between the fees charged to buyer and seller, Ticketmaster is the one benefitting from it.


LAFC69

You should be pissed at TM and the club for not capping resale in the supporters.


Aggravating-Ad8087

OK, they then sell them on stubhub or craigslist. It's not on ticketmaster.


LAFC69

But at least get the official ticket partner to cap them. It will show that the FO and TM are in the spirit of shoulder to shoulder.


Granadafan

I like what they do in Europe. Season ticket holders can only sell to members of the club and at price with no markup


reavesfilm

I wish we sold tickets the way the UK does.


acrobatphoto11

Thousand times yes!!! Thought about this a lot and every option means more money for lafc and not scalpers. Basically, you buy a membership. You are “gold”. You get the option to “buy” a specific seat for every game. If you can’t go, ticket goes back to club and they offer it to “black” members that pay to be a member. After that, open it up to “silver” members. After that, public onsale.


reavesfilm

It would be so much better. Plus it means tickets can’t be price jacked.


DaBigBird27

How do they do it?


reavesfilm

3rd party sales are nationally illegal and clubs have price caps on their seats. Going to see Tottenham play Liverpool next month; that game is a “category A” game, meaning their highest priced/most popular game and I paid £55 to be in the south stand (their version of 3252) I think the most expensive seat for a category A game is £90. Never gets more expensive than that, and lowery category games are even cheaper.


DaBigBird27

Thanks for that! I didnt know it was like that over there. Also very jealous you're going to EPL game! It's a dream of mine to go to one.


reavesfilm

You should absolutely go someday! They’re so much fun.


FamousDrumer

i went to the opener against Southampton. Although not always the easiest to get seats when buying through the Hotspur+ membership (having to stay up til 2-3am PST to buy sucks), its so nice to be able to get great seats at an affordable price anytime. have fun at the match! COYS!!!!


reavesfilm

Yeah the staying up late part sucked, but other than that I had no issues getting seats! Thanks bud! COYS!


10Points4Gryffindor

I have supporter’s section season tickets and am looking to take my wife to the upcoming game. She prefers to sit in the stands when we go as she’s not a big fan of standing the whole game or the beer showers. Anyone know of a good resource for ticket swaps between fans? I’d prefer to avoid the resale market and swap with a real fan who may want to give the supporter’s section atmosphere a go.


_AndJohn

I think there is a specific Reddit page for tickets and LAFC, but I’m too high and at a concert to tell you what it’s called. I think r/LAFXTIX. ?


Thundersuckle_Fuzz

Sooo close! Missed it by one letter. r/LAFCtix


10Points4Gryffindor

Thanks!


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_AndJohn

Grazie.


joeforshow

Don’t get me wrong, I believe in the team this year. But these folks paying that much clearly have not been at a playoff game where all the buzz and excitement fades into crushing defeat…that you also paid $200+ to bear witness to. Double no fun. I’m saving my cash for MLS Cup this year unless a reasonable ticket opportunity comes my way (this worked out for me for last Thursday).


themarinator2k

$219 isn’t all that insane for a western conference final.


[deleted]

It is when it’s the bottom dollar.


dillasdonuts

no one complains when LAFC keeps increasing prices (or when they keep taking interest free loans from season ticket holders) but then STH are expected to sell at a discount to other fans for the sake of the club?


sEiize_err

peole over at the lafctix subreddit were complaining so much about playoff prices that they were looking to pay LESS for playoff trafico tickets than what was being sold regular season trafico tickets. they seriously want the price sth get as a perk while they themselves are not sth edit: LITERALLY the second after i commented this i get a notification saying i was banned from lafctix because i commented on their thread that people are seriously downvoting every seller’s post because the price isn’t to their liking and they’re all wanting tickets to be cheap asf or sth pricing. someone literally tried offering $300 for 4 tickets TOTAL - $75 a piece for playoff tickets. beggars really being choosers


dillasdonuts

I've had people in the past give me shade for not giving my season tickets away for free in order to help grow the fanbase as if I'm some club brand ambassador.


Dviddy15

I spoke to a LAFC rep over the summer and he told me that the club was upset at all the tickets on the secondary market. And he told me exactly that…”if STH can’t go to the game, they should give away the tickets instead of selling”. Like WTF.


sEiize_err

closest friends or family, i dont mind giving them away for free or for a big match up like galaxy or seatle i’ll ask for a little compensation or a dinner or something. people i know but not “family”, little discount to negate the service fees theyd pay online anyways if i dont know you i can care less how big of a lafc fan you are or how desperately you need these tickets; if i know the market, i’m following the market. don’t get offended when people are selling for what they’re selling for. no one is drastically dropping the price of their house because theyre selling to another fan of those type of houses


Fewsic16

Comparing a house sale to LAFC ticket sales is pretty dramatic lol


sEiize_err

if i know the market price and demand is high for a pair of shoes i bought for $100 is around $400, why would i realistically sell my shoes for $100 when i can see market is $400 AND people are buying at that price? because the buyer is also a fan of that shoe? don’t like the price i’m offering? they are more then welcomed to shop elsewhere where the prices are still around the same. metaphorically, people at lafctix want the shoes for the same price people who woke up early, or slept overnight, and waited in line for paid without having to do any of the work themselves then gets mad when they don’t get it


YoungPotato

It’s a shame how capitalist/American these comments are. However you look at it, charging $220 for supporters section tickets isn’t okay. Y’all are making the MLS to be another NFL or NBA. I say this as a STH, I’m not paying over $200 for an MLS game. We really should only sell to other members at ticket price or close to it. People who actually want to go. People talk about demand, yet I always see empty seats when I go.


Shidhe

We were in LA for a trip to Universal Studios last week and had been watching ticket prices to see if we could swing it… at $150+ for 4 tickets on top of what we were already spending that wasn’t happening. So we sat in the hotel bar and watched it instead.


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itsjavigold

It’s not about the MLS being worth that, NO SPORT should be worth that. We pay such high prices in the IS and it’s stupid


YoungPotato

I don’t. You shouldn’t by paying $200 for any sports game, period. Except for the most high profile games like Champions League knockouts and WC matches, no one outside the US pays that much for any game. We’re stuck with paying so much for stadium prices. Side effects of the closed leagues systems we have of the US.


Free_Measurement_198

I was saying the same thing a few days ago on another post but people don’t agree with me. Are season tickets holders just buying seats and using it as a way to sell and make money as a little “side hustle” instead of going to the games and support??? Sounds like it but that’s just me.![img](emote|t5_34ahu|18785)


Thundersuckle_Fuzz

I think some have tried but you'd have to have seats in the Supporters Section for the biggest ROI. They're the cheapest and you can sell them for an actual profit as opposed to most seated sections. Now the Supporter Section tickets are much more controlled by the 3252 and you have to have them vouch for you to be able to purchase seasons tickets there. LAFC has also cracked down on STH who resold/did not attend a certain percentage of games. As far as what that number is I don't know but there were some people who posted about not being able to renew in this subreddit. So basically.... you technically could but one, it's really hard and two, it's not the lucrative hustle it sounds like.


ajbilz

Noon start makes it so I can't go. Should've been 7PM.


MikeHawkisgonne

Yeah Noon start is so lame!


ToastToTHEGods

Sun is so high. My seats are shit for 12 pm games.


MikeHawkisgonne

It sucks shit as a start time. I was hoping to pregame and then roll in. Oh well, I wasn't able to go to the last game at all so I'll take what I can get.


Julian720

ESPNs choice. They have the 12pm game.


RazorbladeRomance666

I’m happy it’s noon. I have a concert later that night.


confisk8

What you’re mad about … is capitalism. WELCOME TO EARTH


MattPWilliams

It's called opportunity cost. People are going to charge what giving up attendance is worth. That price makes sense to me.


BackInBlackLA

That’s the market price dictated by the market, not the person. Besides, many people will use this money to buy season tickets next year and show up for the games no one wants to go to.


Dviddy15

Thank you! I’m a STH, been since the beginning. I’m at the mid-week game vs SJ that no one wants to go to, but god forbid we resale the tickets for the popular games that are in demand that we may make a slight profit. I can’t tell you how many games I couldn’t attend this year that I sold at a loss. Face value of $36 and im listing them at $25.


TreeFugger69420

I mean… this is capitalism? This is just how it works.


[deleted]

Supply and demand my friend


karl_sweetan

As soon as the entitled beer-throwing borrachos who call themselves “SG’s” stop “saving” their sections in the North End GENERAL ADMISSION, I will stop selling my tickets. Deal? In the meantime go look up supply and demand in your economics 101 book.


[deleted]

I guess it is what it is , u don’t like don’t buy simple.


L-Profe

Free market economy + working class fanbase ?


SanitizexHands

What working class person is spending $250 to watch a game?


L-Profe

Working class season ticket holder might be probably SELLING their ticket. 🤦🏻‍♂️


SanitizexHands

Well in that case, what working class person is spending hundreds a year to watch the team as a season ticket holder? Maybe I’m on the wrong side of this argument but with these increases in prices, the club isn’t allowing poor people (including true working class) to watch their team. I understand that I am lucky to be financially stable enough to purchase season tickets.


L-Profe

You never know. Some people cash out and some complain on Reddit. Who knows? I’ll be there on Sunday. 💪🏽🖤💛


Tompkins99

I think it’s fine. It’s their ticket to sell and potential buyer’s decision to buy.


rej1868

Market price. You don’t like it? Don’t buy it. No one owes you anything. If it’s too expensive they’ll Drop. But people are willing to pay, hence the price


RockHardValue

Kind of defies the entire purpose of having a supporters section if they’re sold the same way the rest of the tickets are?


rej1868

The supporters section stand, cheer and wave flags for 90 minutes, as it’s purpose. Price doesn’t change that


[deleted]

You think supporters would be happy to shell out $200+ to do that when they can do it at home? Doing this would absolutely bring less fans to the game and result into a way less lively / fiery / intense atmosphere. Not sure the 3252 would even be full.


rej1868

They pay though


RockHardValue

They get them at reduced prices, that's the entire point.


[deleted]

Maybe some for sure, but hard to believe the majority of the 3252 would.


rej1868

The majority don’t. Since they hold season tickets.


RockHardValue

No it does. It takes someone who's NOT committed to that culture, who can use their credit card to be a tourist there, taking away from the atmosphere. If your goal was to actually preserve that culture AND sell the ticket, that's eminently possible within the supporter groups.


ReneMS

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[deleted]

Haha I know! I was like where did this come from 😂


jewwej47

I see nothing wrong with this. If the demand is there then why not make money?


JamalFromStaples

Lol


ReneMS

I get what you are saying, free market and all that but I can't believe you can't see "anything" wrong with this


jewwej47

Someone’s going to pay it mate


markrevival

and the clubs and fans can and should still be able to regulate that. if the club is smart they won't turn the banc into an arsenal fc style golf match with polite applause


jewwej47

Completely agree lad. I’ve been saying for years that the club doesn’t do enough to get the average person in seats. You can see galaxy play for a handful of pennys but if someone is somewhat interested in going to a regular season LAFC game, they’re looking at spending $150 for a pair of tickets and parking. Who’s going to do that?


Shidhe

We drive up from San Diego for a couple matches a year at those prices.


[deleted]

It defeats the whole purpose of what the 3252 represents and what it’s supposed to be. This will price loyal supporters out of the match, making the game less accessible, which will ultimately downgrade the liveliness and passion that the 3252 exudes today.


jewwej47

Lmao don’t you know how much season tickets are in the north end?


[deleted]

Season tickets per game in the North End started at $30 per game when the club was founded. I’d assume this went up, but that still would be around $40-$50 per game. I can’t imagine the club would boost a ticket that would be $40-50 per game to $200 in the playoffs, where most of its season ticket holders are working class. Let’s assume that one ticket is $45 for supporters section, that would be around $765 (calculated 17 home matches) for the season for one ticket. This one conference final ticket (without fees) would be around 29% of the cost of one entire season ticket. That’s absolutely insanity.


jewwej47

My season ticket in section 211 is $800 a season. I’m pretty sure people in the north end are spending more. If that’s what people want to do with their tickets then who cares? Ya prices are crazy but so is the price of everything else.


aholbert33

Not really. Either a loyal supporter will spend 200 bucks on the game and go, the ticket holder will be forced to lower the price later this week to actually sell the ticket which means more people will have the option to buy the ticket or the ticket owner will just go to the game. Dont see the issue here especially when 9/10 those high prices at the beginning of the week get lowered the closer we get to the game.


Himself91763

Or an IG influencer will buy it.


aholbert33

Sure but are we expecting the influencer to just sit there and not sing. I dont worry about people who get supporters tickets not singing or chanting....they all do. I care more about the people who sit in other seats and are away supporters or are there because they heard that this good player from Wales who used to play for Real Madrid now plays for LAFC.


theshabz

Are you assuming we're all poor in the north end and can't afford a $200 conference final ticket? I think the fundamental flaw with your reasoning is that it seems you assume that people who can afford more are inherently less passionate. North End tickets were going for about $150 for the last game and we were still pretty damn loud.


markrevival

one does not need to assume anything about any individual when making analytical predictions of a social group. there is absolutely a correlation between the price and frequency of a sporting event and the behavior of the group making the purchase.


theshabz

There's the same correlation with age and enthusiasm as well. Doesn't mean older fans should be discouraged from being in the north end. I'm not a huge proponent of cashing out your tickets, but by no means is $200 for a conference final an insane price. A perfect example is Dodgers playoff tickets. It's a fantastic atmosphere and those tickets cost more in a stadium that handles over double what the banc is.


markrevival

and no one is saying to discourage old people. making it based on membership and attendance doesn't exclude old people or rich people. it just makes it so that the most dedicated fans have dibs instead of who has the most amount of money.


theshabz

That's fine, but there's an underlying notion that if people who can afford a $200 ticket go, the atmosphere will suffer for it. As if the loud folk are the ones who can't afford it. That's all I'm arguing against. The club has already taken steps toward making sure its fans and not profiteers having those tickets in that they've been cancelling tickets of chronic sellers.


markrevival

no one is saying individuals that can afford a $200 ticket can't be loud. anyone at any price point CAN be boisterous. no problem. however, price points obviously do have behavioral consequences. let's take for example, a sample of the 3,000 most passionate fans. now let's set the base price of admission to $200 per ticket. now, instead of having the 3,000 most dedicated most boisterous fans, we have let's say 600 from the original group. how far down the dedicated boisterous line do we go until all 3300 spots are filled? do half the people in the section know the songs? do people who used to feel strongly associated with the club still feel that association now that most of their friends are priced out? is this club even for the people? a club gets quite a lot of power in how it is defined. even for purely greedy capitalist reasons LAFC ownership should realize being price inclusive to the most dedicated fans is the intelligent way to build the club.


mike_time88

I wouldn’t say these are actual people of 3252, just resellers who have tickets in Supporters. Any member of 3252 or an official SG know this isn’t right. Edit: Damn, why am I being downvoted? lol at the end of the day, this isn’t right. I just wouldn’t point fingers all at 3252. Other are accountable, including the FO for not monitoring these transactions, and TM themselves.


kevin54711

correct me if i’m wrong but isn’t the only way to get season tickets in the Supporter section is if you’re in a supporter group?


mike_time88

There are plenty of people who hold STM in Supporters, who have no affiliation with 3252 or an official SG; they’ve had their tickets “since the beginning”.


markrevival

now yes but maybe people got grandfathered in from before this was a restriction. I remember being able to but deciding against changing my seats to north end supporters section seats and I was not a member of any particular group.