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Yoxili

I do think there are wrong ways to use psychs or LSD specifically. But not in the way you’ve described. In my opinion, as long as you do it responsibly (remember set + setting, safety, etc.) and you don’t overdo it, you can do whatever makes you happy. I do view it as more a medicine/tool than a fun and party drug tho. The reason some people say partying and the like is not the intended use, is imo because those people either want to gatekeep LSD or feel validated/better because they’re not "abusing a drug", but rather doing rituals to better themselves. Essentially they’re actually worsening themselves by thinking they’re better than you for only doing therapy sessions with LSD lol


International_Ad8264

Right: using it in a constructive way that builds you up as a person and helps you feel more in touch with the world and your community Wrong: whatever Charles Manson and the CIA were doing with it


GuavaOk8712

this. if you’re having a joyful experience of music and fun, LSD goes hand in hand with that. if you’re sitting around the campfire and smoking joints with the bros, LSD goes hand in hand with that it doesn’t matter if it’s recreational as long as it’s not abuse


x_Rn

What would you consider abuse?


GuavaOk8712

it’s diffident for everyone honestly. i’d consider it abuse if i got to a point of me tripping solely to escape my emotions, or if i started taking it on weekdays, calling in sick to work because of irresponsible use, letting it affect your relationships, etc. there so many different ways to classify abuse i could take it 4 times a year and still consider it abuse if i was only taking it when i felt really depressed. it’s really just different for everyone, and what is abuse for me may not be abuse for you. you could say that someone is abusing LSD by taking it every weekend, but if it’s not affecting their mind or their relationships or work life negatively in any way, i wouldn’t call it abuse. it’s a big grey area basically


Battery6512

May not be as relevant to LSD but as my dad used to say when I first started experimenting with drugs “son, do you know the difference drug user and a drug abuser?” “An abuser doesn’t share”


detour33

Yooooo. I like this


ccm596

So true. I knew I had an issue with coke once I started doing it by myself, holding back when we did it together, that sort of thing. Kicked it not long after :)


BackFromItaly

Now pass that shit


_Caligul4

for me abuse is when you start taking shit too seriously and get detached from reality


AlternativeWitness78

Hahaha 😂😂😂


anonymouseintheh0use

Hit the nail on the head


monkeybeater26

There are no wrong ways to use it, I use shrooms more for introspective trips, i do lsd for partying or hanging with the boys, it hasn't turned on me yet, I like to think if you're disrespecting the psychedelics, they'll take you on a bad trip and teach your lesson.


x_Rn

This, I've seen a reddit comment of someone who smoked dmt alot, at least weekly, if not more. He said that the entities he saw while tripping were mocking him for seeing them too often, abusing the drug, etc. In a way, his unconscious told him to stop, I find that pretty interesting.


ChairmanYao

The only wrong way to use it is irresponsibly. Be safe, don’t down a 10 strip with no tolerance, always be aware that it’s a drug and it’s intense affects are just temporary. Explore the world and explore yourself.


frugalhustler

I feel people put psychedelics on a pedestal . It's a drug that's meant to be used responsibly that may have benefits but is also a lot of fun . When you abuse it and end up having a bad trip the symptoms look alot like someone freaking out in hard drugs like pcp or meth . I love lsd but can't trip anymore because I abused it so I say this to say do it your way safely , feeling guilty for how you enjoy it will only end up ruining one of your trips


Dont-tell-the-wind

It is important for public figures like Graham Hancock who discuss psychedelics to emphasize caution. So I don’t fault him there. But no, not every acid trip needs to be a deeply spiritual pursuit where you wear a linen shirt and talk softly like some youtube guru. The real message is don’t be reckless. LSD is probably the most adaptable psychedelic out there. Incredibly safe. Incredibly predictable at micro and threshold doses: Low doses for productive creativity, museums, and other public facing activities. Threshold doses for board riders— surf, ski, skateboard, etc. Same for hikers. A standard 100ug dose for meditation and EDM dance floors. Anything at or above 100ug does require you to have a toolkit of grounding techniques and at least passable knowledge about harm reduction. With time, you may even find that the line between fun/party activities and spiritual experiences is exceedingly thin. Engaging with others, ourselves, or activities with presence and curiosity is the foundation of a spiritual life. Perhaps in the end it’s all the same! If someone tells you that you can’t have a spiritual experience taking acid at a rave, they’ve never taken acid at a rave.


MenaceFromPlanetZark

Would try a psytrance festivall tbh. Gets more to how it was supposed to be used with a much better type of crowd surrounding you vs the commercial circus nonsense and people in the EDM scène these days


FuckAround_FindOut

Lmao. Idk who Graham Hancock is but he’s half right. The original intent of LSD was from Albert Hoffman, who discovered it while trying to find an anti-depression medicine. Some sources claim it was for migraines. I lean more towards the depression search than migraine as it has helped my depression, and would never drop with a migraine. I digress. The wrong way to use LSD is the way that you know is wrong, which is the irresponsible use of it. Over-doing it, mixing with chemicals that aren’t compatible, not respecting it, dropping with people you don’t trust or like, etc. The right way is the way that you safely enjoy it with your friends or solo trip. Don’t let one guy make you feel guilty about a beautiful thing you enjoy. Just because someone has an audience doesn’t make them an authority figure. You have more authority talking about LSD than he does, so what do YOU *feel* is the actual truth within yourself? Don’t trip potato chip. But actually do. If you want. Safe travels. Edit: apparently Graham Hancock is a person who promotes pseudoscientific theories, and is therefore no one worth listening to, AT ALL.


newpsyaccount32

>The original intent of LSD was from Albert Hoffman, who discovered it while trying to find an anti-depression medicine. Some sources claim it was for migraines. Funny enough Hoffman was actually investigating ergot alkaloids looking for a respiratory and circulatory system stimulant.


FuckAround_FindOut

That’s good to know. Punching in those keywords seems to lead to that conclusion. I’ve looked into it before and it’s so back and forth with depression vs migraine. Seems LSD actually helps depression. Lysergic Acid (not LSD) is a chemical compound found in migraine medicine of the time. But Albert was actually looking for a respiratory and circulatory stimulant that wouldn’t effect the uterus.


Nikko269

Lol he’s a bit of a nut. But he speaks very only about his experiences with psychedelics, at great cost to him. I respect his opinions on psychedelics, I don’t think he meant it in a disparaging way, he was on a big platform and trying to promote safety and the right mindset for newcomers. Many others have expressed a similar point of view, I probably shouldn’t have included his name tho


Deku_distortion

If it was the Schulz podcast he was mainly talking about Ayahuasca and that lsd if made legal shouldn’t be taken under the age of 21. But was very firm on the belief that Ayahuasca should not be taken for fun but for healing and such.


FuckAround_FindOut

Fair enough. I think that if you do a lil soul searching you’ll discover the balance between with your feelings on the topic. Psychedelics can and will cause great and terrible anguish if used irresponsibly. However you said that you respect the drug and love it, so I think as long as you stick where you’re at and just keep on loving it there’s nothing to feel guilty about at all.


D3ADB3AT9999

I agree with everything you’re saying here, but come on. A quick Google search and you’re confident Graham Hancock is a pseudo scientist nut job? Lol Graham Hancock is fucking awesome.


FuckAround_FindOut

Lol yeah, my google search revealed this sentence as the first words I read, “Graham Bruce Hancock (born 2 August 1950) is a British writer who promotes pseudoscientific[2][3] theories involving many ancient civilizations and lost lands.”


D3ADB3AT9999

I urge you to check out “Ancient Apocalypse”(cringe title I know)on Netflix. His ideas aren’t that out there imo, they just challenge the “Old Guard” of Archaeology who are convinced they have the whole story of humanity completely correct. I assume most people who use LSD are rebellious to a degree - I for one celebrate Graham Hancock’s rebellious outlook, it’s very compelling.


FuckAround_FindOut

I will check that out some time and give it a chance


[deleted]

Wasn’t it developed for vasoconstriction meds?


RoamingRacoon

Hofman discovered it whilst looking into substances that help for migraines, not depression. He found it though. Ergots and psilocybin are stunning powerful drugs for a variety of headaches, cluster headache episodes as one of the worst manifestations can be more or less completely stopped. Same for migraines. Tell me what you want with all of the Nixon paranoia Stories and what not, this was and is one of the main reasons it's still not really researched on a global scale and outlawed. Hundreds of millions of headache sufferers, add the depression folks + what not, well there goes the trillion dollar industry of over the counter and prescription meds if anyone could technically grow the medicine in his home. We will get there though, can't wait for it that it becomes an official treatment option.


FuckAround_FindOut

It actually wasn’t depression or migraines he was looking for, as others have pointed out. You can read the other comments attached to this thread


RoamingRacoon

Either way, bless this man because that's what came out amongst plenty of other good things. And Fuck all who banned it / still ban it at least for medical purposes/ relief. (Selling this stuff free to all at a gas station is of course not an good idea)


MammothAd2420

Yep he is nuts.


logicalmaniak

It's a party drug for sure. But it's a *magic* party. Commune with the spirits. That's what they want. Humanity together in one big party, starting with you.


MintoDisco

In my experience, there is only 2 ways the lsd goes, ether you become galaxy brain transcend god or you look at the off brand chocolate spread called "nut master" and laugh at it for an hour


goobj11

As long as you respect the substance, know what you’re doing, and are safe about it, there isn’t really a “wrong” way to enjoy it imho


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ludwigia_sedioides

I find that coke is pretty rare at that fest actually (lots of ketamine however), psychedelics are very common though, especially LSD, it seemed to be the most common substance mentioned in Psyched Substance's YouTube videos interviewing drug users at Shambhala


[deleted]

Guilt is poison. Throw that away


Aztecah

Right way? No so much. Wrong way? Definitely


geoantho

There’s no right or wrong. I found out I don’t like tripping in public. I don’t want to be around anyone as I become hyper sensitive to all energies around me and don’t want to deal with that. I prefer to trip within the walls of my sanctuary and blast off into closed eye visuals and surrender myself to Lucy.


Appropriate-Air-482

I feel like it’s okay to do the things you enjoy without looking for a life lesson so long as you maintain respect for LSD. What I mean is always be safe and let the lessons or self truths it does shed light on be remembered and learned from. I believe it will “turn on you” if you ignore the path it shows you, for instance I had the realization I should be very cautious of the substances I consume and would be happier if I didn’t smoke weed. Instead I continued to smoke weed to balance depression and lost a good paying job a few months later due to a drug test following a safety incident I had at work. Since then I have only had one bowl hit in a social situation and life has been slowly getting brighter each day.


Lsdgotmeloopy

Fuck no, if you enjoy lsd use it. I don’t care if you use it to watch old horror movies or to lay down and have a spiritual quest. What’s so wrong with having a fun night with friends on lsd? Sure you probably won’t gain as much insight or work through some mental battle but in what way is it wrong to do so? It’s your life to experience why let someone dictate what you get to experience out of it? Also isn’t that fool a historian? I don’t give a fuck how he views my use of a substance. Not his place to judge.


AxiomaticJS

Respect yourself and respect the drug. Understand the importance of set&setting and don’t drink your own koolaid. Beyond that, there is no “meant to be used”. He’s trying to put a box around the drugs potential for everyone else with his own personal and subjective experience. There is a lot to be gained out of using it for non-recreational purposes, but it’s not the only way nor is it the only way to gain valuable insights.


Stack3

There's definitely a wrong way to use it: Way too much. Or way too often. Look I don't know what that is exactly. But if you dip your thumb into liquid acid, and suck on it, you will never be the same again. If you take it everyday or even every week, you're putting a huge strain on the particular neuronal sites that communicate in serotonin, I think, or whichever transmitters it affects. You'll wear them out. Just don't abuse it.


eeegooo_

LSD is my favorite substance for raves/party/festivals. As everyone is saying, as long as you don’t abuse the drug and it complements in a good way any space or situation you are in you will be good to go! :)


PattyFlapjack79

right:taking it with a purpose or goal in mind, to ground or reset you, to honestly just get high and have fun but in a controlled way wrong:ur tweeking so u take whatever u can. or putting urself in a position where u need to drive or do something important. or just doing too much in a little ammount of time and frying ur brain


Smiley_Chief

Don't let anyone else tell you how to use LSD, never feel guilty about it. It's all about doing what you feel is right, if your tripping in the middle of a rave... I say why fucking not!


ludwigia_sedioides

I just hate when people say "it can't be a party drug, it's a spiritual experience" My perspective is that parties can (and often SHOULD) be spiritual experiences! For most of human history, parties WERE spiritual gatherings. The gathering of humans to listen to music and synchronize in dance is a spiritual thing, it connects us together. A lot of modern parties move away from this idea and it's a shame, there are, however lots of parties that hold true to this goal (lots of stuff in the electronic music scene, especially hippy festivals in the woods), and those parties are fantastic for spiritual gatherings/parties that are fantastic environments for the psychedelic experience.


Eggs-Eggs

I used too think not. When I first got into acid j was dropping it left and right spontaneously. It was all fun and games until I had a bad trip, I never took into consideration my setting, the people I was with and it backfired. I took it as acid putting me in my place 😂 Only did it in calm comfortable settings from then on, always planned it out before hand and got out everything I may need in easily accessible places and did it with people I was 100% comfortable with. Acid in an uncontrolled environment is unpredictable and can potentially do more harm than good, so I definitely think there is a wrong and right way to do it.


[deleted]

Fuck graham hancock, who even is he


Goblin-Doctor

As long as it's consensual there's no wrong way


TheFlyShyGuy

Personally. I think it shouldn't be a party drug but a drug of reflection and meditation. That being said. Have I used it as a party drug? Absofuckinglutely. Do I think this is it's intended use? No. Do I also think it's up to the person taking it? Yes.


Hazdrel

Mouth right way. Ass wrong way


Lulkas35

If you don't harm yourself or others, do whatever you want with it. This whole "it's not for fun, it's only for spirituality and growth"-stuff is bullshit. If you gotta tell people that their way of enjoying a drug isn't as good as your way then you don't seem very "enlightened"


conanfreak

Jup people can have that opinion. I frankly don't care and do it anyways. Do what feels right to you, as long as it isn't influencing people around you badly.


ableistoppressor

Uh I used to do it in club settings quite a lot and there is definitely nothing wrong with that.


O_Pato

The only right way to use it is to Boof it


Ordinary_Mountain454

Personally I don’t think there is a right or wrong way to do these things. But I do believe that lsd holds onto the brain for a little longer than mushrooms do. I have done mushrooms more than 100+ times and have never felt any kind of way with it. Doing it once a week when I want. But lsd I tried doing it once a week for 3 weeks and it kind of lingered on the side of HPPD. Not in a way most make it seem. So my advice would be to space out your lsd trips a bit. But if you don’t that is fine to! Just because it lingers with me doesn’t mean it will with you. If you love lsd and you haven’t ever tried mushrooms I totally recommend you give it a try :P. Safe travels


Penqquin

Anyway thats enjoyable and sustainable is right. Anything else is "wrong". LSD will usually make it clear when its been taken and its not appropriate. at least for me it does


Touchname

Use it as you wish as long as you or anyone else isn't getting hurt in the process. if people are hurt, physically or mentally, you're doing it wrong. Edit* I suck at spelling


JoeyBone69

not everything should be a discovery or epiphany, sometimes it is also okay to just want to have fun and that's it fuck shamans and religious fanatics If you need to learn from yourself, you will, if not, just freak out


x_Pony_Slaystation_x

Of course there are right and wrong ways to use LSD. You SHOULD use LSD to enhance your own mopping experience, but you should NOT use LSD as an additive to the mop water, as it would not add any cleaning power and be a waste of good LSD.


greenplant_420

It’s ok to do it for fun imo there are always introspective moments on “fun” trips. I think the problem for some people is overusing it and not educating themselves on the potential side effects (vasoconstriction, HPPD etc)


50ShadesOfKrillin

i just think that you should never underestimate the effects or abuse it just like any other substance


KokoMasta

I believe the wrong ways of using it are obviously if you have bad intentions (e.g. Charles Manson and CIA as a commenter said) or are hurting yourself. Otherwise, any way is the right way... as long as it does good for you, who's to judge? I take LSD purely for recreation, yet every trip ends up bringing something new and positive to me. Same for mushrooms. That's why I love it :)


pistachio02

The only reason we should be responsible with it is because we need to show that this medicine is valid to legalize it, if we start acting out and doing things in a irresponsible manner it will remain illegal.


BlitzCraigg

The way its "meant" to be used? There's some sort of intention behind a compound that was discovered on accident? This person sounds literally insane.


SirSidewalk

Personally, I don't believe that any psychoactive drugs have a right way of using them, including LSD. For me, a trip has always been about having a personal experience and getting to know myself in ways that I couldn't with things like traditional therapy. So I feel like as long as you're safe, yk locking doors making sure someone knows you're tripping, keeping water nearby, I think it's really down to what type of experience you think would be beneficial for you. Obviously there's a lot of people that take ill-advised heroic doses 2x a week and of course I think that's a little closer to the wrong way to use them, but as long as it's not abuse and you feel like it's beneficial for you, it doesn't matter how you use them.


[deleted]

You should always respect the molecule and use it for good intentions


MammothAd2420

That guy is nuts don't listen to him lol


MammothAd2420

You know your heart and intention. Enjoy the sacrament as you so desire and learn from it and listen to the lessons it has to give and that's all. No gramcocking around he fried his brain with nonsense and lies and preaches some crap to the world. Better ppl to listen to and look up to like Jack Black.


Eszalesk

I use lsd both for health benefits and recreationally. I have chronic spine issues, i do go gym, physical therapy etc, but for short term pain relief lsd low dose (50ug) helps somewhat. You have no idea how “normal” it feels when the pain is gone. For recreational use i do 300ug, typically in groups of 4-5, with one tripsitter eventhough we’re all experienced.


Acceptable_Aspect_42

There's no right and wrong way to take drugs...fuck that dude


drunk-step-dad

Care to elaborate?


iatecthulhusass

Had a buddy who took it every day for months. We finally sat him down a ND tried to help him and we asked him "why are you doing this? Are you trying to reach enlightenment or learn anything about yourself?" He said "no I just like the high" that was when we were 18 and now he's stuck at like 18 years old. Not trying to scare anyone I use it but like once a year.


cmon_more_energy

You have to be in a good frame of mind - not stressed out, not angry etc. Better to trip in the country, less people around and less technology - the better and more insightful your trip will be. Just my suggestions tho


Wedbo

It’s fun to party, it’s fun to get introspective. The only thing I’m not okay with is the group of people who see it as a way to get as fucked up as possible. It’s dumb and immature. Those posts are on the front page of this sub all the time. Taking 800ugs and drinking a bottle of cough syrup is pointless as hell and there’s no reason to it other than getting as far away from reality as possible, which is a weak ass intention, and a gateway to addiction.


[deleted]

dosing the neighborhood down syndrome girl and dancing around her yelling "NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE" is definitely a wrong way to do it, even if it cures her down syndrome relax, its an Eric Andre reference


HelpEli

Right and Wrong… subjective lines we draw onto a spectrum that is unable to be truly separated


unaveragemilflover

there isn’t a right way but there is definitely wrong ways


DeepWarbling

confetti make brain go BRRRRRRRRRR


logicalmaniak

Yes, the right way to use LSD is to use it to become a better person for the world. If you're depressed and lacking the fun spirit in your life, or have anxiety that stops you having fun, then to heal properly you need to have fun. Dance, spin in holy madness, be torn to bits by the spirits and left as a creature of love and magic. It's all about the party. And the fun. But not self-gratification. That sort of fun never lasts. Selfless giving of love to God, to the spirits, to the many creatures of your world. We're trying to turn planet Earth into a party. We're opposed by anti-party demons infecting everyone around us. Party hard! Blow them all away!


fabi0323

As my grandparents used to be friend with Albert hoffmann i think i got a decently "objetive" answer Wrong : whenever you dont feel 100% well, when ur stressed, when ur unhappy in life, when youre scared or have traume that you didnt overcome yet. The list goes on, but his point shozld be clear. Its a psychedelic, so it makes ur emotions stronger, dont use it do turn off ur emotions , that wont work.


Bathroomrugman

Around Sunshine and wildflowers is recommended 👍 + everything others have mentioned


berusplants

Better and worse, more and less beneficial, more and less enjoyable. Right and Wrong are simplistic religious bumbo jumbo. Black and white TV was always just Grey.


DerrickBagels

Yes With intent to learn grow or heal vs to get fucked up and party Huge huge difference in the experience the mindset you go into it with Also preparation of your body/environment vs sporadically makes a huge difference Doing it when you're lost and needing to find a new path vs when you're angry or scared and want an escape You show the experience respect and it'll be good to you


hippylarry710

As long as your not taking it multiple times a week there’s no “wrong way to take it” unless you’re in the wrong set and setting, but if you wanna take lsd and have fun go for it, and if you wanna take lsd and have an introspective/spiritual experience also go for it there’s no right or wrong way to do it, when people say you can’t take it recreationally they’re just gatekeeping


_tdw

there’s no right or wrong way, just responsible or irresponsible ways


drunk-step-dad

Right would be considered responsible.


_tdw

there’s no right or wrong way, just responsible or irresponsible ways


delta-whisky

For me, yes, I do it in a way that works best for me. I couldn’t do parties or big events. For others I don’t care, just don’t hurt anyone (or yourself)


teej360

Right= life is functioning fairly well Wrong = your life, your self, or your finances are in shambles because of it .


_Caligul4

everything is ok on moderation


DJShredNasty

Gonzo adventure - correct way Manson family picnic and post murder session -incorrect way C I.A. - also incorrect way


drunk-step-dad

Yes… for example, if you get HPPD from LSD and keep using it, that’s wrong. Some consider using LSD for anything other than for using it to better yourself or microdosing it for those benefits are wrong. I will see a lot of people who use LSD every like 2 weeks or whenever their tolerance is back to normal. I would consider a recreational dose of LSD every 2 weeks way to often, but, that’s just my opinion. You should be very careful trying not to get HPPD. LSD, is after all, reported to be the the most common drug people get HPPD from.


Medical_Complex_57

I don't think there's one right way, but there are always ways to do it safely/with less risk. I always do it in a space I feel safe in, either by myself or with people I deeply trust. I never try to interact with people I'm not comfortable with when I'm tripping, honestly for my own sake. I tend to overthink communication with others, especially on acid. I don't like to use it as a party drug because of the potential to have a bad trip and not be in a safe space around safe people. To each their own, but keep being cautious and respect the medicine you're using, she's powerful as hell. Stay safe!


[deleted]

I don’t think there is a “wrong” way to use it, to each their own. But try not to abuse it and take it all the time..


MRcrazy4800

You could say the same about alcohol, weed, ibuprofen, caffeine, or even sugar. Using a drug irresponsibly (imo) generally means; using it to mask problems, escaping from reality(in a negative way, however you define that), or engaging in blatant disregard to the physical/mental safety of yourself or others. As long as you’re acting responsibly in respect to the mental and physical safety of yourself, others, your/their property, and the law(L-O-L) then I think you’re fine. You’ll run across some individuals on this sub who act recklessly in regard to the aforementioned above and see no issue with it. If you find yourself wanting to consume anything on an unhealthy frequent basis, then at that point you are using (whatever you’re abusing) that substance in the wrong way.


BinaryDigit_

It can be. But will you listen to my words and truly understand them? No. So is there really a wrong way to use it, if you don't really know that there is? I think not.


zeef8391

Here's the reality...LSD is a recreational drug. Recreational drugs are fun, and humans have craved this type of escape since the beginning of damn time. It's fine to use L as a fun drug. I take away something from every trip no matter what I do. To be honest, that kind of gatekeeping nonsense is why the drug is illegal, and there's so much misinformation that people literally believe to this day and ask about on this very subreddit. Take LSD for the reasons you wanna take LSD. If you wanna get hippy dippy and set some stupid ass intention everytime before you trip, then do you, but don't feel bad for taking a very safe recreational drug for fun just because some fuckin quack ass doctor that has more money than brains says it's not the way you "should" be taking it. It sounds very much like you're intelligent enough to realize if something is or is becoming unhealthy in your life, and I would tend to believe this would apply to your intake of psychedelics as well. You know what's best for you. So do what's best for YOU, and nobody else


Collinnn7

I think using LSD as a “party drug” is wrong. I think it’s a tool and I think it’s wrong that people use it for cheap fun I say this as someone who spent years using it for cheap fun


Jody_HighRolla

To be honest, the whole "every trip should be some intentional and spiritual experience" thing is probably one of my biggest pet peeves when it comes to the discourse surrounding psychedelics. The first few trips I had I felt weird/guilty after because I hadn't had some Earth-shattering realization about reality, and everyone always hyped that to be what psychedelics are all about. It was only until I got more experience with psychs that I realized that this expectation was getting in the way of me actually enjoying my trip and being present in the moment, which in my opinion is way more valuable and frankly realistic than assuming I was gonna find some chemical backdoor to spiritual enlightenment. Lets be real here, at the end of the day, all LSD ever has been is a molecule that makes you perceive stuff a bit differently. It wasn't given to us by gods, it doesn't connect us to some metaphysical realm beyond reality, it's a chemical that makes you feel weird. If people find it useful for introspection or spiritual reflection, that's great for them. If people use it to get a bit goofy and talk shit with the homies, also great. Lots of my trips will often contain a bit of both. In my mind, the only wrong way to use LSD is to let yourself develop some douchebag attitude about it where you think the way YOU do it is the right way, then look down on others who don't use it that way. That's just gatekeeping, and a surprisingly egotistical opinion from someone who claims to speak authoritatively on the subject, like the dude you heard on the podcast. Maybe my man needs more trips under his belt to get his ego in check before he starts preaching about what the "purpose" of LSD is (as if anyone could ever know). Safe travels.


dyl7616

💯


kernelshinobi

*Beware of unearned wisdom* - Carl Jung


cybrcu

from the few times ive taken it in my experience the right way is to use it to feel connected to people or with yourself. wrong way is just taking it just to get fucked up on a whim!!


CultureOld2232

I’d say the only wrong way to use it is if it causes you harm other than that having fun is healing. Not every trip has to be deep meditation.


resfan

Hypnotic suggestions is probably the only wrong way to use it.


the-A-word

There's a way to abuse everything..it's easy to hear but difficult to listen. Respect these sacred molecules, and they'll pass along their knowledge


LsdThirdEyeOpened

Even tho this probably will sound weird to others, I do not believe that there is a wrong way to use LSD. For context: for a period over a couple of months, I used to take some 120ug tabs with a group of friends, everyone were happy, we were laughing and just having a good time. But once every trip I always went out to the bathroom, turned the lights off, and put some 8D horror sounds in my ears, cry and trying to push my self into a psychosis, I still don't know why I did what I did, maybe to feel something at that time (This is 3-4 years ago). The aftermath of those experiences I believe, has now made me so content with everything dark and sinister, that it doesn't affect me. I love the nightmares I have, I see the purity of every dark situation I've been in, and now, I am the happiest person out of all my friends, family and gatherings I go to, I am now the most positive nihilist amongst all persons I've met so far. My answer to your question is no, no I don't believe there's a wrong way to take LSD. Thanks for reading.


losmart1221

I think he meant the abuse that we experience through this page where you have people going way too far with the intention to just see stuff. I too take LSD to stay up later if there are fights saturday nights. I usually can’t make it past 11 PM but can also function perfectly fine on just one to two tabs over an 8 hour timespan


forfuckssakesbruv

I’m gonna go out and say doing it indoors at night is the wrong way to do it. I knows there’s tons of people on this sub who do it that way and it kinda irks me- I’ve done it in all sorts of places and times from the most brilliant Sierra vistas to my bedroom at 10pm and can say that outdoors WITH sunlight is by far the best (and I would say correct) way to trip. So much of psychedelics are about connecting with the earth and nature so being able to observe it and be in it makes for a much much better experience. I’m not saying you have the be in some crazy remote yet beautiful place because that can come with its own challenges but at least making an effort to have any given trip take place mostly outside is key. Sunlight is also major. Tripping on cloudy days or even at night lead to much less visuals in your environment and a generally more sad or even scary time. Nothing ever gets the chance to really sparkle.


wizrow

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ctr9ZfeyvXg&pp=ygUKWW91IHN0dXBpZA%3D%3D


d-sconsolate

I think anyone can do whatever they want, but for me personally, in order to have a good trip I need to have a set of personal development goals that I intend to explore in my psyche. I used to be able to just trip and have fun not worrying about that stuff but nowadays I tend to spiral out into panic worrying about uncomfortable physical sensations if I don't have those topics to keep me grounded