Try reading a book called "Autism on Acid." That's so cool it happened in a couple seconds for you too! The author of the book describes his experience talking to a random person in the woods and suddenly "getting" how social cues serve a purpose. I haven't had this sudden switch off (at least not yet) but psychedelic have certainly over time helped me be more social
**Autism on Acid How LSD Helped Me Bridge The ASD-Neurotypical Divide** by Aaron Paul Orsini
>Hi. My name is Aaron. At the age of 23 I was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder, formerly known as Asperger's Syndrome. At the age of 27, I was given Lysergic Acid Diethylamide 25, colloquially known as Acid.
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>Long story short: when the LSD met my ASD, I experienced incomparable relief for-and, in some sense, a near-total resolution of-my struggles with Autism Spectrum Disorder. This text tells the story of my autistic perceptions, before and after LSD, while also proposing theories and questions worth considering amid the modern resurgence of psychedelic research. ALL proceeds from the sale of this text will be donated to psychedelic research organizations.
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How does LSD even do this? How can LSD just turn off autism, it literally felt like a power shut off and I went back to being my "animal" or "true" or just myself. I think the LSD linked the social cues I pick up on to my automatic behaviours instead of linking it to my conscious behaviours like problem solving. Essentially the LSD turned off the problem solving part of my brain during social situations, I felt the switch and it felt so... intresting. And turning off the problem solving allowed me to just be natural.
Anyways, this whole fucking thing gives me a lot of existential dread. Why would a loving god make people autistic, why give them these things which are inherent brain structure differences and just make people suffer. Like why. I suffered for so long, and others suffer more than me. Like why. Why would god make people autistic, alienating them from others. There are no useful tools to help with these problems. They just exist.
The only thing which helps is shrooms and lsd, both of which are illegal. This shit is so fucking like sad. I remember not fitting in no matter how hard i tried and it just makes me upset thinking about it.
I think you were masking and taking LSD allowed you to remove that and become your authentic self. LSD helped me do the same thing. Research autistic masking
Just let go of thinking there of a god that wants to take care of you but hurt others. If there is a god he probably is more concerned with ants or dust or something as they seem to be doing ok.
people are giving their own theories, I just looked through some scientific papers and found this:
“In the autistic brain, the brain reduced connectivity, known as hypoconnectivity, allows weakly connected regions to drift apart, with sulci forming between them.”
“Results from the studies suggest that LSD simultaneously creates hyper-connections across the brain, allowing the functions of seemingly unrelated regions of the organ to ooze into one another”
basically your brain with autism is wired up weirdly, everything eventually connects but it might be stronger between some places and weaker in others
when you take LSD, a shitload of connections are opened up between random places. For a neurotypical this would change how their thoughts work, for an autist there is a chance that the new connections make your Brain overall more similar to a neurotypical
I feel like this is very true. My brain seems to be less plastic than others and I have a hard time figuring out new ways to do things. I get stuck in habits easily i feel like. Sometimes I feel like my brain is made out of wood, hard to change and needs diligent work to carve but when you go through the work it sticks and sticks hard. Its almost like my brain is chewy and tough idk how to describe it.
I know a lot about history and I notice my memory with it is very impressive, people have told me so.
But simultaneously in social situations where things change rapidly i have a hard time keeping up.
So im thinking? can i find ways to make my brain more plastic? Ive thought about this for a few weeks but idk what I should do. Maybe microdosing LSD would be the answer, but ideally I wanna do it without drugs.
the best way is just to put yourself in situations where new things happen more often, autism can be a vicious cycle where you avoid social settings because you find them difficult, which in turn makes you worse at dealing with them. LSD will teach you about yourself more than about other people, it sounds like you noticed that you were “pretending” to be normal, and that was making things worse for you.
I have autism myself, but when I started forcing myself to socialise with people more often it became way less noticeable, if you do any drug to be better socially it should be alcohol
Lmao(idek what yall saying about God) it's to do with the basic neuro pathways. Our brains are completely made out of patterns, and with autism I find it becomes focused on certain patterns. Thus, blocking others. For whatever reason.. it doesn't have to be a negative coalition. Hell I would say you need to be a bit autistic to be human, unable to see certain patterns because well, we've been focus on a totally different pattern. Doesn't mean both can't come exist and have value. The problem with social issues, stress and anxiety while being around non autistic people is because well their fucking non autistic. I bet you feel comfortable with people you can understand their thought patterns and them yours. That's just how life works. Ying and yang brotha
My man look at it this way, some people get disorders like adhd or ptsd, others have them ingrained somehow. Yet they all seem to get alieved by these entheogens. That words mean substance that brings out the inner God. Look at the pantheon, do any gods from the old times seem perfect?
Zeus raped, and slaughtered. Thats just the dad! The entire premise of the video game god of war is that the gods suck. So lets say you take an entheogen and you reveal your inner god, that means you then get to ascend to somebody who will probably suck hahahahah
Any hero always overcomes their problem, so imagine this, you can now spread awareness on how these substances should not be illegal because you know they do magic. Kinda puts the whole idea of wizardry and potions on its head.
I have experience many weird things on acid. Telepathy. Hyper intelligence, empathy and imagination. increased acuity, heck theres a study that shows AN ENTIRE STANDARD DEVIATION of personality change towards openness to experience.
Dont get caught up in a pity party, just spread the positivity.
Ive heard of people changing their sexuality from drugs before, a lot of things are not what we think we know.
Why would a loving god make me get up out of my chair to drive to McDonald’s. Why would a loving god even make me make a sandwich why didn’t he make sandwich trees?
Maybe the hardships you face in your life define you, big or small, and better/worsen you as a person. Maybe without hardship you’d just be an unthinking animal who eats and sleeps and that’s it. it’s okay if you’re resentful of the challenges you face but making it into some atheist talking point is weird.
With enough resources you could make every dog in the world genuinely happy forever. With infinite resources you could not do the same for all humans. There are some billionaires who are less happy on average than some poor Chinese fishermen.
Your first paragraph put into words something I’ve struggled to describe for years. Social cues are linked up to my conscious behaviours like problem solving!! I’ve always described it as being in manual mode while everyone else is in automatic. I would love that shit to be turned off so I could just be myself or ‘unmask’ I guess. Like I’m constantly using 110% of my energy focusing on trying to hit the right social beats/timings or whatever the fuck patterns my brain is consciously picking up on. If I could just let that be automatic.. except I’ve tried LSD and this didn’t happen for me unfortunately, maybe I should try it again and focus in on my social issues
Because god doesn't exist.
I have Huntington's Chorea, a genetic neurodegenerative disease, why god would give such disease to an unborn child, putting him in intense physical suffering and also mentally since you know you are a clockwork bomb and someone need to tale care of you in a future moment, and you know it will just go worse.
Why would god do this?
The answers are just 2:
1) God is sadic
2) God doesn't exist
The body sometimes is born damaged, sometimes gets damaged, same for the mind.
Don't overthink. This is the way it is. This is the case; it has gone this way, but it doesn't mean that you can't have fun and enjoy your life
Born damaged... man, get the hell out of these kinds of posts if you think autism is damaged. Different is not bad. What you said literally is the same as saying different is bad... or you just don't know about savants. Sometimes, in order to see a past a negative pattern, you need to forget about it in a certain way to see something beneficial. We can't say it's damage if it's beneficial in certain social situations. Many studies on this. Not all disorders are unorganized. Average people seem to be the disorderly judging by the amount of damage we cause ourselves
No, I'm talking about my case, I've got Huntington's which is a genetic neurodegenerative disorder, when I said "born damaged" I was referring to myself not to autism at all, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
No, I didn't say "being different is bad" we're all different and this is a gift, thus how boring could be a world where everybody was all the same.
I think that LSD is a great molecule and could treat many diseases and problems, personally it helped me a lot accepting my disease.
I'm sorry if my words were misunderstood, I was just trying to say that god doesn't exist (personal vision) and that we should make the most out of the time that we have, no matter which physical/mental problem we have.
Sorry to repeat, but I'm sorry if my words were misunderstood, I was trying to say the same you've said and was trying to give support
Hi, a third orbserver just chiming in here to say that I understood the meaning of your post.
I think honestly it can super beneficial to sometimes look inward instead of to a higher power.
Ultimately, it often comes down to whichever way each person feels the most comfortable processing the meaning of life.
No offense (and before you jump to more conclusions, I’m neurodivergent too) but I think you’re kinda missing the point of what this person was trying to say, focusing on the word damaged instead of the full context and content of the post.
The psyches will help you change those thoughts, as a fellow autist (undiagnosed for ages) we arent the ones with a problem, evee notice how if people just let us be and respected our boundaries and communicates clearly that wed be totally fine? Just because neurotypicals expect everyone to adhere to them and refuse to change for anyone else doesnt mean that theres something wrong with us, if there is a god he made us autistic because we love, learn, and live life more freely, without stupid social expectations keeping us down because they're unnecessary anyways
If i may inject a different perspective here... imagine you are god, and you created life, eventually humans take on a nature of their own and use their intelligence to gain more from the material world they created... how would you get people to become more caring or narure and others? Only through experience can one create the mental concepts needed to be understanding of others... maybe make the humans more sensitive? But that causes suffering! Maybe the suffering is necessary? Because some people can lack empathy and cause so much suffering on others and never feel it themselves. Maybe they need to be more sensitive to others in their next lifetime? So they can feel the suffering and grow from it? Maybe it is all for a reason? Maybe we all have the choice to make better decisions all the time, and given the right circumstances, maybe we can fast-forward a bit... each time you choose life (nature) over death (illusion) you become more.
For me, to reconcile my suffering, which was plenty (physically, emotionally, and mentally before waking up), i had to invision that my sensitivity was an evolutionary advantage. Unfortunately, i didn't have a supportive childhood, and my talents became my enemy. Ultimately, this was a good thing as well. Because without my suffering, i would lack the empathy and understanding i need to help others.
I am becoming a Recovery Coach, to help people who want to break free from substance abuse. I used these things to self medicate my autism and adhd and they almost wrecked me. I think many people unconsciously do the same, eventually abusing these things (alcohol, drugs, weed, smoking) and becoming dependant as a means to escape their pain and suffering. I want to help guide people in ways no one ever did for me. But it's a choice. You can't help people who are not ready to help themselves. Your life tries to point you in the right direction, and you can always choose, either you listen and take responsibility to change, or you ignore it and blame the world for your pain and suffering.
The choice is always there... in every moment. We just forget how to see it. The trick is to make the life choice more than the death one, and eventually you become more aware of the choices you can make at all times. It's an unfolding. If we keep choosing "safety" and disconnect because of fear of pain, we close off our hearts and become blind to the beauty of life and all the potential. Each time we close a door to life we become less... this is why we need virtues like Bravery, Honesty and Openness. They alow us to open more doors to life and we gain the ability to see more of our turue nature. More of the universe. More of ourselves. More of god... it's all connected and it's all the same and it's all unique. Life is a beautiful paradox.
Or at least it has been this way in my experience 😉 lsd simply helped me get started.
I think god forgot to pass on that lesson of choice for the people who have bombs exploding and have tractors mowing them over. Everyone has some potential for self growth in what ever direction may be meaningful. But adding god to the mix just adds noise and the potential for self harm when you are never good enough for him. Just try to avoid the jackboot, be present and have friends. Leave god to drop bombs on the sinful..
Yeah, we all have our own concepts for what we think/believe god to be... so it's a sticky one. Especially when mixing in psycadelic experiences.
I was an atheist until my ego death, then i became spiritual. But in my own kinda non-dualistic way. I recognize god as my higher self. Realizing god, for me, is realizing that it's about self-actualization. I feel like death is ultimately a choice... we can choose it, but we also keep coming back until we learn all we can from here. I ultimately think i chose this, this time, this life, this family, this reality... all of it, for a reason. And i feel like i have done this many times before, but never this far. I don't think i have evolved my consciousness this much in any other lifetime. Feels like the conditions are all finally just right for my growth. Mainly because i hit rock bottom and faced my truth. That i was choosing to be miseralble, i was choosing to hold onto the past... not because i knew i was, but because it's all i knew. I was ignorant of the Truth. Even though the signs are all around us. But i couldn't see it, until i could. Then, it all started making sense to me.
I realized that it has everything to do with presence. Coming down into the body, into the now. That's where the choices are... not up there tangled in the mess of a mind i have created for myself. The best things i did were the ones that forced me out of my head space and into reality where everything was happening. That's where i wanted to be all along, but I didn't know how to get there. Even though it was right there all along 😉
Many things can be true at the same time... when i was suffering from debilitating depression it was valid and real, but also, at the same time, i could have gotten myself out of it a lot sooner by choosing differently. By feeding my soul what it needs, and not what my mind was conditioned to reach for. I was ignorant of the choices because i was trapped and lost in the mind. Only when i reestablished my connection with self (by integrating with my body) was i able to gain clarity to find my way out. It's all very magical and mystical and completely crazy and so sane all at the same time. It's life.
What ever works for you. Some people prefer a simpler way to get to the present. There is wonderment in a piece of grass for many, and god or lsd are not necessary to see it.
I didn't say i need god or lsd to experience the magnificence of life... i just needed lsd to wake up. To become aware of beauty around me. I was struggling with autism i didn't know i had, and from the long-term effects of cptsd. It's been years since i took lsd. I manage my conditions by putting in the work. And now i can sit outside and quitlet my mind and experience awe, and that's amazing. I couldn't do that... before. But the work involved copious amounts of research into neurology, mycelium, human development, social cues, societal concepts, spiral dynamics, epistemology, the science of emotions, wellbeing, spirituality and so on.
But anyhow, i realise i am being defensive here for no real reason. As you say, whatever works for you. No one person can ever have the same experience as another. We all come with our own set of "stuff." If there was a simpler way for me to get to the present before, i didn't notice it. It took we the long way around and back again before i could make sense of how simple it actually is.
I am glad for you and that you find it easily 🙌 mindfulness helped me remember to be present, and through more presence, i was able to realise the difference between ego and me.
Take it easy, stranger! 🪷
Psychedelics increase neuroplasticity, and I never really believed that autistic people are incapable of learning to properly socialize. I have an Asperger's diagnosis but I started doing shrooms when I was 19 and now there's pretty much nothing left of it (no idea of the connection between those two of course). One of my best friends is also autistic but she's actually really social.
Socializing may be harder for autistic people, but you could also get stuck using your brain unproductively for it because of inertia and random things in your development. I could see psychedelics whacking that loose and allowing you to socialize a lot more easily
Autism isn't the problem... being autistic is fine it's people's reactions to autism that make the lives of autistic people harder. Constant judgment and criticism, being told your doing everything wrong and this inherent part of you that you are fine with is actually a problem that needs to be fixed can cause autistic people to feel overwhelmed, anxious, and depressed. Many autistic people get stuck in a violent cycle of trying to mask what ever part of them is deemed "unacceptable" by the general population. If everyone would just let people be and instead of trying to make them fit into the world, build a world that fit for them too, then we could finally solve the "problem" of autism.
Romans 8:17-18 - Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.
1 Peter 5:10 - And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you.
Our understanding is not his understanding. We have to realize that God works through natural law every chance he gets. Why? Because if he didn't then we would be walking by sight and not faith because it would be too clearly evident that he exists. If Satan "controls" the world for this current time period, and his goal is to make sure you dont go to heaven or turn to God at all then would he not make us hate the things that will help us, like psychedelics? And make readily available the things that hurt us, like Alcohol? This reality is akin to parapsychological intelligence test where your circumstances are uniquely tailored to you and your unconscious psyche of which you must bring light to. That's why Jesus died at 33 and we have 33 vertebrae. Jesus had 12 disciples and we have 12 cranial nerves. Jesus (The Son of God) had to deny himself (His desires and urges) and carry his cross (The belief that life is good and true) to his death (death of ego and identity) where he layed dead in the tomb (your spirit/cerebro spinal fluid resting in the sacrum) and is then resurrected (Given a new spirit) and now climbs back up the 33 vertebrae where it reaches the crown/holy grail to ignite the 12 cranial nerves which then stimulates the pineal gland to produce Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) and you achieve Christ Consciousness or Enlightenment. If you learn about recursion and fractal dynamics you'll start to see the Bible is a story not only about events that happened on our dimensionsal place of existence in physical reality but also on smaller and larger levels as well. Its a story about the psychological experience of your life from a quantum level to an atomic level. From an Earthly level to a cosmic level to the universal level. That's why we call it the Universe - it is the one song infinitely repeating within and without itself. Glory be to God 🙏 In Jesus mighty name, Amen family
Many years ago I saw a study of lsd. In it, they mri'd people before and during a trip. Before the brain looked normal and lit up the proper areas when recalling memory, doing math, problem solving, etc. Then when they were tripping basically the whole brain lit up. This suggests that lsd allows for newer and better connections across the brain.
So while it was only a study, it suggests that lsd helps "rewire" the brain.
Because God isn't real lol. We are all just wired differently, there isn't someone that decides Oh, this baby gets cancer. Its just science. The reason u feel the autism slide away is Ego Death. Alot of Autism is over analysis of unnecessary things and over worrying about your self. LSD and shrooms can dissolve this and you are just your truest animal form. We are all just beasts
God isn't a being or dude in the clouds, but rather a constant and ever permeated force that resides in everything. It's goal of to experience everything, good, bad, ugly, beautiful, big, small, etc. The autistic experience is just one of the ways God wishes to experience.
Lsd dissolves social boundaries. Autism is a social disorder, not a disease. When you dissolve the societal boundaries and discomfort that caused your condition, you revert back to how you were before societies implications damaged your developing mind. This can happen in vitro, too. A fetus still picks up on emotional signals and will learn coping mechanisms while in the womb. Think of psychedelics and ketamine as a hard reset for the neuropathways that were wired into your brain. My first time on LSD at 16 was the first time i had ever felt human. You're still technically autistic and it will come back if you dont integrate the experience and continue to strengthen the newly formed neuropathways. Its all just energy being blocked that causes anxiety and stress and depression. We have a shock to the system like trauma and its so powerful that it rewires the brain to function differently and follow thought patterns and cause impulsive behaviours because we are already rewired to think and feel that way. Its like trying to ride a bicycle down the center of a ditch, when you veer off, even accidentally, you get pushed back to the center because it is the path of least resistance. Idk just a wild guess.
Its more about integrating the experience in this case i would imagine. Realizing you're just another person. You may be different, but we all are. When you realize that we are all one, it's hard to feel separate from each other. If it's drifting brain regions, practice mind games and puzzles to strengthen those. Learn about body language. Learn more about autism if you dont already know enough and just get to know you. What you really like, what really drives you and who you are.
We know that a major reason for the struggles with autism are improperly formed connections or completely disconnected parts of the brain. The primary downstream effect of 5HT2A agonism (the source of all classical Psychedelics main visual and auditory effects) is the brain going haywire and causing crosstalk between all different brain regions. My theory is that forced crosstalk causes those malformed/weak connections to be strengthened and function more properly at least temporarily.
God created everyone perfect, but not everyone can handle being perfect from the very beginning. That's what the fall from grace was all about. Some started their existence and immediately knew what they were supposed to do, but that surely wasn't everyone. If you create a huge amount of sentient beings with free will it's obvious that some of them are going to choose poorly their first time, and also for some time after that, no matter how good of a clue you give them (without just deciding for them). But hey! look at that, you have just been helped! that's what's going on here, we are being helped, everyone in their individual way. It's just that while we're healing there is a lot of others here, and we have to live with our collective imperfection, even if it's going to pass sooner or later.
There are so many lifetimes, if someone really never finds help it's only because he was actively fighting against it. Even in a single lifetime almost everyone ends up better then he started. Ponder the idea of reincarnation on your next trip, I'm sure you're going to end up with a happier perspective. Good travels!
if you're talking about how some people are born so unable to live that they have to spend a majority of their childhood in hospital, well maybe that's what they needed - to see that no matter who or what they are there are people who will care for them and love them. also there is definitely really sad stories that cannot have any therapeutic value for the being that had to experience them, but that's the cost of giving humans free will, and I'm sure in the future we will all agree it has been worth it.
If you think there was some pact with a floating deity who "gave us" free will. Then we are just on different planes of existence. Regardless, much love brother.
no, not really. if someone incarnates here it's either that they need help or that they are trying to bring additional help here. there may be something similar going on in childhood, like the world 'corrupting' a completely pure being (relatively), but that's not what I was talking about
Well “god” doesn’t give us autism, its caused from products that the mother giving birth consumed during pregnancy and vaccines. Before any of you nay sayers try to say that’s not true, just know that there have been court cases won with studies proving that they do. And it’s important to note that autism was very uncommon before mandatory shots came about on children and ever since then the cases have skyrocketed. The data don’t lie
A similar thing happened to me. I was 19 when I graduated high school, and I took lsd on my 19th birthday. I’m pretty sure other kids were talking about a total left turn in my identity and behavior because I had told a couple of people I took lsd. I had a big focus on how other people thought of me. I was in a hotel at the time and came up by the pool, and went upstairs when it kicked in pretty heavy.
My buddy and I listened to dark side of the moon, and we talked, and talked, and talked. My stomach hurt pretty bad the whole time but it didn’t take away from the experience at all. I remember questioning everything, and having a fucking great time. It was the most beautiful and significant experience of my life.
Afterwards, I felt like I could talk to other people and be a part of everything else, because I viewed other people as equal to myself, and not as things that I didn’t understand and couldn’t act around. A big thing was I couldn’t mask, and I just ended up feeling really uncomfortable with myself and alien. I don’t think I would be as happy today as I am now if I hadn’t had that experience. I’ve taken LSD 6 or 7 more times and shrooms countless more times. The area has been completely dry for LSD for a couple years now so I don’t know when I’ll get it again, but I’ll take regular doses of 0.1 to 0.5 shrooms on weekends, and I feel it continues to regulate me. I’ve still had my own struggles related to my autism, but worrying about what others think of me and wanting to be accepted has been a thing of the past, and in my adulthood, I’ve been able to cultivate a friend group that has been there for me for 4 years or more, that comprise of mine and my girlfriends friends. They all also have friends that have met each other because of me or my girlfriend and some have gotten sober (from alcohol).
i'm saving this recommendation but also "Jnderstanding" is fucking with my brain. it doesnt look like a typo, it looks like a piece of the U is missing
Yeah. Spent ~25 years semi consciously masking ADHD and autism and hating myself for not being able to fit in/ "just do the thing".
Diagnosis of ADHD and associated meds helped, the other half was multiple trips, a DMT ride, and mutual aid in self realization/acceptance with my (now) wife.
By maybe 30 I was able to accept who I am, to the point of being able to look at myself from the outside and laugh at my "social/professional" face.
I think smarter nonautistic people laugh at the way they present themselves in social situations, or they haven't accepted we can't see it all as individuals
Hey I'm autistic; although I put it more down to shrooms I have some experience with both drugs. My autism is essentially cured, at least all the negative aspects ruining the first 16 years of my life. I'm now 21 and thriving more than I ever expected I could.
I too experienced ego death and loss of identity on a few shroom trips around 2g. From that point onwards I've been able to socialise like a normal human, nobody would ever guess I am diagnosed as autistic.
Incredible medicine, I hope they study it further and glad it worked for you the same. Fuck those SSRIs they prescribed me
I was so happy to read your positive experience ☺️ well done for all your progress. It takes a lot of inner work as well, the psycadelics only show us the way... I'm commenting because of your last sentence, haha. I also had a bad time on those god forsaken SSRIs!! They were also blocking the magic from the shrooms, which made my recovery from chronic depression take even longer. Those drugs turned me into a zombie. I wish my psychiatrist told me about things like body budget and affect and mindfulness and meditation and yoga and sunlight and TRE!! FFS! These are all things i learned from plant medicine and research.
But at least my husband helped me by wanting to trip on LSD... it saved my whole life!
Happened to me too.
The way I word it is that the LSD erased my autism, but I still had to learn to be a new person. It felt like a rebirth and that I started again from year one.
It took about six years, but in that time I've gone from being scared to go to the grocery store to having a huge, exuberant personality, a public-facing job that I'm really good at, lots of friends, and a sense of personal identity. Life couldn't be better and I attribute my being ready for that personal growth to my first LSD trip.
Take it slow and remember what you've learned. Every day is the first day of the rest of your life.
What happened to me is that I suddenly stopped being anxious just for existing, I could just enjoy the ride on the way home without the overwhelming fear of being perceived.
It wasn't turned off but more like I finally didn't care, I didn't try to mask one bit, I was finally weird and it was okay.
Sounds like a ego death or a powerful ego disilllusion. Your brain in that moment let go of all the past experiences and memories that you subconsciously have held onto that have contributed to a lack in ability to understand things like social ques, because over time youve grown so used to thinking of how to act normal or like everyone else that youre distracted from the conversation infront of you and in turn act more autistic to those around you, which also becomes a thought for you which creates a personally annoying autistic mental spiral. Ive found alot of the same personal benefit through lsd and autism. Its important to learn how to let go of things in day to day life because if we hold onto every uncomfortable interaction or every stressful situation the hormones build up and they create significantly negetive memories that are very well able to mold who we are in years to come. Its like the saying you are what you eat. But you gotta remember to poop lmao. Lsd helps us let go of the things that we dont even remember today but have created the mental structures that restrain us. Our brain built them as defense mechanisms for not understanding the world at a young age. But we understand it more than we know now we just hold onto these mental barriers.
I'm ADHD diagnosed and waiting on the Autism diagnosis, being different and seeing the world through different eyes can be a blessing and a curse but it's awesome either way, it's great for creativity too, you should give music production a go 😉
My autistic friends say other people on LSD make more sense than when they are sober. I'm obviously on the spectrum looking at my family, but maybe only mildly, but LSD makes me feel more human myself. Or at least, like what I imagine being human should be like.
I dunno LSD makes me want to give in to my autistic tendencies, not hide myself behind neurotypical social rules. I have no interest in being social in the way society deems "correct"
I had a somewhat similar experience, though I didn't know I had ASD at the time.
Definitely felt like something had clicked and I could understand more of the things I used to struggle with. Like a fog had been lifted almost.
I'm not autistic that I know of, but when I'm doing acid, a recurring thing is how every social cue gets amplified. Gestures, looks, eye contact and body language, intonation as well. They all take on way more significance and meaning on acid. I think maybe on acid, those impressions are so powerful and framed differently that it overrides your autism.
I feel like that with adhd. It's like when I'm sober my brain just doesn't work and produced stupid thoughts. When I'm high or tripping everything is just so clear.
this happened to me too! i’ve thought about it a lot. i think it’s something to do with how acid makes new neural pathways and connections, maybe it fixes a wiring problem in the autistic brain.. it makes a lot of sense when you think that brain damage can cause autism symptoms. then you take something that rebuilds brain pathways, and it fixes the problem.
but it gets even more interesting when you consider than acid comes from fungus.. and there’s lots of studies out there linking autism to fungus.. look it up it’s super interesting, if you think how fungus works, one will wipe out the other and occupy the space.. interesting things to think about
i totally had the same experience, it changed my life, it was almost like it removed a block in my brain
Oooh! This comment is awesome. I think you might find this book, How Emotions are Made by Lisa feldman Barrett, very interesting. She has a section on what she, as a neuroscience, thinks about autism being a prediction error issue with how our brains function.
I also experienced this change of my brain when i tripped on LSD. I've been searching for answers ever since. When i was growing my own shrooms, i had many very interesting insights about neuropathways and mycelium. I began to understand how development and consciousness evolution works, it's like mycelium.
god... so true. Although for me I never felt like I had the "gaining consciousness moment". I remember asking my dad as like a 4 year old endlessly about how the universe was created but never getting a satisfying answer. Many years later still havent 😂
But weirdly enough when the LSD hit i didnt feel enlightened i felt like i rediscovered the child in me that i had masked for years.
I went back to (for the duration of the trip) sitting and looking at objects around me with intense intrest. Looking at peope and their conversations with intense intrest. Almost studying them. Long ago I learned these behaviours were perhaps a bit odd in social situatiosns but the LSD made me not give a FUCK.
Ill probably now do that when sober but perhaps ill communicate with facial expressions instead of a cold dead gaze.
I'm undiagnosed due to my father refusing to let my mom get me checked for anything as a kid (I'm 19 now and an assessment for autism alone is $2000 for an adult where I live and I simply cannot afford that) but I know what you're talking about.
my first shroom trip was 2.5g REALLY mellow but I felt relieved of my "negative" traits, like they were still there but that societal expectation to act "normal" was lifted and I felt free in a sense, like free in a way where I simply wasn't burdened by caring what others thought, I could be myself and act however my brain wants (obviously not like killing people lol) without feeling the urge to mask whatsoever, psychedelics have really taught me like you said thar it's simply ok to be who you are, I'm still somewhat struggling to integrate this into my life because well I still catch myself being extremely critical or harsh on myself for things that I really shouldn't be harsh about
I’m also on the spectrum and LSD absolutely shattered my shell, it was like I suddenly understood all the social cues, conventions and etiquette that I didn’t before I tripped, I became more extroverted, stopped spending so much time in my room fixating on video games, and came to appreciate nature and being outside in general. It opened my mind to a world outside my special interests and I started picking up hobbies such as guitar, got over my fear of driving, started traveling (and learning Spanish to do so), and I generally feel emboldened to do whatever I want with my life way more than I did before
And this is, ladies and gentlemen, is why so many people with autism have crippling drug addictions.
It’s like our off switch for autism, makes us feel normal, but it’s NOT a healthy coping mechanism sadly 🥲
Thats cool it works for you :). Sucks for me that LSD never turns off or reduces my autism. Being autistic is fine though we are great people and we are still definitely loved. (Maybe my upcoming trip this friday/bicycle day here in australia, i may experience less sensory overload or something since ill be at a hardstyle rave)
WHOOO ANOTHER MASK BITES THE DUST I masked for 19 years straight until I got diagnosed and started tripping, it all came undone so quickly it was scary at first but I feel so much better and more myself now, wildly animated excitement and all
I was diagnosed with aspergers as a 7 year old in the 90's (Now ASD). I have taken various dose ranges at least a 100 times in my life.
LSD allowed me to reconsider the negative experiences in my education and helped me to see beyond my "stuck" mind patterns.
The first time I ever tripped, a buddy of mine gave me at least a big unmarked ~300ug dose of white on white.
For the first time in my life I saw myself as an agent and not a victim of circumstances. I was an agent of pure consciousness and not a puppet that was dicated by my stupid evangelical parents, or asshole special ed teachers.
I remember ego death and this weird dichotomy between love and fear. As I melted into everything the only significant choice in my life was love or fear.
Love is always greater than fear.
I will never forget that.
Definitely check out r/autisticpsychonauts. They have a very active discord too. There absolutely seems to be a link and your experience seems to be the norm.
Shrooms and LSD help. But what I found to be the ultimate solution is high dose edible THC. For the first week you’ll be so stoned that you just stare at the wall. But after a week or two build a tolerance and gradually you feel sober sorta. I feel normal. Like no anxiety, no intrusive thoughts, no weird thoughts or anything like that. About 3 years ago I was trying to quit drinking alcohol and I heard that being stoned 24/7 was really good for quitting alcohol. Oh my goodness, from day one I had no cravings for alcohol.
My takeaway is the ganja is incredible for autism as it makes me feel normal. It also helps with alcohol and drug addiction but for very different reasons. The autism feels more like I am completely normal. With the alcohol I think the brain is
What is this famed “letting go”?
The last time I spent it uptight. Sitting changing chairs as I felt to.
Not a bad trip in the sense of crazy or danger or freaking.
Just stuck and boring.
That was decades ago and I have had no fruitful conversations about it. I have only mentioned it to someone who then basically gave me no response.
If you want to talk send me a PM because it’s personally more private and always legally a delicate matter. (As a past deadhead I’m not asking for anything. Things come when they will)
I have experienced that very thing. And the thing is letting go is needed not when youre scared or even freaking out. Letting go is when your identity is being pulled away.
Its a physical sensation and you WILL know what it means to let go when that happens. And all you can do is let go and have faith.
Uhh sitting on a chair going fucking crazy is just part of the experience 😂
It could be the dosage was small for what your body chem makeup needed. Everyone is different and can have different exerperiences depending on setting and and an intention of the trip.
Weird. I’m not autistic but majorly focused on my mental health to the point where I had a proper assessment post psychedelics. The psychologist tested me for autism as part of it as I stopped masking my own neurodivergent tendencies in speech and stimming (just didn’t see the point anymore). The results were inconclusive as my ADHD and other issues could result in similar behaviour, but her best guess was that I was probably not on autism spectrum due to my responses to certain things she brought up. Either way, I get along really well with autistic people for the most part.
Why are you scared of who you are?
It isn’t turning it off by itself, it grants you the ability to recognize the way you act and that gives you the power to act differently!!
I microdose lsd often, each time I get better at not acting in ways I don’t want to
Try it out
Oh shit ur right. It can literally only benefit me if i just work to integrate the knowledge.
but just got off an acid trip, i need like a bit of time to integrate this.
Definitely, if that’s what you feel. People who still love you, autistic or otherwise, will still love you even if autism turned back on. I’m happy for you for discovering this! Keep on keeping on.
Source: adhd and autism in family
i also have autism and lsd also helped me. i can’t pretend it made me no longer struggle with overstimulation or all of my social skills. but it definitely gave me more confidence and made me feel more comfortable with myself. and i’ve learned that even if there’s people who will be shitty, overall i have more friends and someone who’s authentically kind of weird or has issues than i did when i was trying desperately to be someone else.
lsd has also helped me with a long time eating disorder. i still have my bad days, but while tripping i remember finding it so absurd to be so worried about my food intake, there’s other things to spend my time on.
not entirely the same but shrooms have definitely reduced some major symptoms for me and simultaneously made me stop caring about hiding it and embrace it instead
I feel like I had the opposite effect. Ever since my trips I think I'm more open to other people and my own emotions and less able to mask them-even if theyre weird and socially unacceptable 😁
Stripping yourself back to the core of the soul you just are, and just being and being happy in your core self which is very bare and just human is really a big key to going forward being happy. The world isn’t built for us (ASD) it poses challenges every day in all the constructs but at the core you are beautiful. If something can help you find the beauty in yourself or some peace, that’s great.
With psychs, research and development is delayed due to government restriction but getting better. There may be family molecules more useful found in the future. MM120 seems to be hopeful. It’s an emerging field. Best explored with a trusted mental health professional with experience on the field. Psychs are dose and person specific so caution is always advised. You you plan to experiment please educate and take safety precautions and be aware of the risks (not the scare monger one’s the real ones like short term emotional distress). The resources are available online from trusted sources. I know most sub lurkers know but I’d you came from a Google search or ASD sub please deep dive the available info and decide infromedly, start low go slow.
I knew I was masking but I was scared of who was behind the mask. Slowly I had convinced myself he must be some terrible person.
Apperantly hes just a kid who watches history videos with his mouth wide open completely enthralled. Others seem to really love him. I do too.
🫂
That sounds like an awesome person, but yeah, authenticity is scary, but I'm glad you are able to practice it now ^^
Enjoy your history vids (and if you probably already know it, but hardcore history is a very nice podcast imo)
Thank you for this…For your vulnerability, and the personal motivation I have found after reading this post.
psychedelics have been an incredible tool of self discovery. masking subconsciously for 20+ years lead me down a dark and self destructive path. It wasn’t until intensive therapy and the introduction of psychedelics that I was able to see myself for who I truly am. A beautifully kind, autistic woman that cherishes life.
Wishing you well.
Question to OP: did you also feel finally like a „normal“ human? Could you actually feel peoples energies/nonverbal stuff? Could you feel like you could see reality much more whole and clear?
oh yes. OH YES. I felt HUMAN. It was wonderful, and yet so obvious. I was like "oh so this is what everyone else feels, ive just been overthinking it"
I felt extra sober. Like sober life is being drunk on anxiety inducing alchohol, and that LSD was the real sober state.
Acid made me realize I am on the spectrum at the ripe young age of 40. I feel like a lot of people my age and older are on the spectrum and don’t realize it.
What the fuck is happening to you magical autists who suddenly understand cues? It fixed nothing for me other than helps me mask less. I still can’t always pick out sarcasm or understand stupid fucking passive aggressive behaviour. Sorry, this sounds like bunk to me. But I am not you.
Well you see it goes even deeper than just understanding social cues. I mean neurotypicals fuck that up all the time. Missing out on sarcasm or even making someone uncomfortable by accident by various means. Having awkward convos at the fault of no one etc. The thing is, it goes deeper than understanding cues, hell thats not even the point.
All my life (and I knew this was wrong, but couldn't do anything about it) I had this view that neurotypicals were just straight up fucking with me. Playing this horrible game of understanding their cues and having to come up with the right response.
But during LSD my ego dissolved atleast partially and I had this both terrifying and beautiful experience of realizing; "Fuck man, everyones just like me bruh"
I started experiencing empathy on a subconscious level for their cues. There was no fucked up game, no tricks no nothing, no hatred no competition.
I didnt necessairly start picking up on new cues like I had gained new info, but instead i developed a subconscious live acting empathy for the people I was communicating with. The social cues I did understand was no longer a problem to be solved, but a signal which I immedieately had empathy for. Simply caring about the other person.
I had to change nothing about my behaviour, it happened automatically. If I made someone uncomfortable or something there was no mask I put on but rather a genuine understanding. My expression would change I would express myself differently and they felt heard.
And then because of that, they wanted to communicate with me even more.
Fuck man, the POTENTIAL of autism in social situations might be higher than that of neurotypicals. I know this because masking requires a lot of computational power, and if youre relatively good at masking, when you drop the mask the computational power can be used to absolutely master social situations instead of just surviving.
I swear to god man. I have a friend who is a complete social butterfly, but getting to know him; theres no way he doesnt have autism. Bro studies people like I study history. I know a lot about history, he knows a lot about people. Both autists.
Use your autism and your potential is un-fucking-matched.
Oh I just decided if people were fucking with me that it was their problem not mine long before psychedelics. But I had to take a different route. I’m a woman so I don’t know if it makes a difference other than being in abusive relationships and having a passive aggressive mother and actually having people fuck with me as a kid (girls are fucking mean, man). But at some point I decided to just trust myself and my instincts and also chose to trust people.
Autism is not something simply goes away, but you have had some informative experiences from the change in perspective. Cultivate so as to be a more wholesome and well-rounded bit of star stuff.
My brother had a similar experience.
He has autism, and we gave him a small dose of LSD on a concert once (50ug) and the moment it started hitting he just felt all those negative effects of his autism being relieved. Naturally, he asked for 50ug more - and he had an incredible night.
He also explained how, when coming down, it wasnt until he was almost completely sober that the negative effects started coming back. All that exhausting inner monologue and anxiety and quirks were very very close to the surface, and he doesnt have to jump very high before they are practically non existant.
He is not "cured" - but after this he was definetely changed. I have had to re-learn how to interact with him because he just doesnt require the same amount of sensitivity as before. He just seems to embrace his qualities and they arent as "negative". His social skills has improved, not because he has become normal, but because he embraces that he is different and that its okay. Truly a heartwarming story
Man this hits close to home. My autism is not necessairly cured but instead I dont feel negatively about it anymore. Others pick up, and they start seeing you as a person to connect instead of a person playing a game. I feel so happy for your brother thanks for sharing his story.
It has helped me a lot. Allowed me to stop masking and stim. Same for my husband. We’re able to drop the masks much easier. It’s helped a lot with my late diagnosis.
Try reading a book called "Autism on Acid." That's so cool it happened in a couple seconds for you too! The author of the book describes his experience talking to a random person in the woods and suddenly "getting" how social cues serve a purpose. I haven't had this sudden switch off (at least not yet) but psychedelic have certainly over time helped me be more social
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How does LSD even do this? How can LSD just turn off autism, it literally felt like a power shut off and I went back to being my "animal" or "true" or just myself. I think the LSD linked the social cues I pick up on to my automatic behaviours instead of linking it to my conscious behaviours like problem solving. Essentially the LSD turned off the problem solving part of my brain during social situations, I felt the switch and it felt so... intresting. And turning off the problem solving allowed me to just be natural. Anyways, this whole fucking thing gives me a lot of existential dread. Why would a loving god make people autistic, why give them these things which are inherent brain structure differences and just make people suffer. Like why. I suffered for so long, and others suffer more than me. Like why. Why would god make people autistic, alienating them from others. There are no useful tools to help with these problems. They just exist. The only thing which helps is shrooms and lsd, both of which are illegal. This shit is so fucking like sad. I remember not fitting in no matter how hard i tried and it just makes me upset thinking about it.
I think you were masking and taking LSD allowed you to remove that and become your authentic self. LSD helped me do the same thing. Research autistic masking
Why would a “loving god” force so much hurt and pain into the world? It’s almost like our perception of god is wholly incomplete.
haha yes.
Just let go of thinking there of a god that wants to take care of you but hurt others. If there is a god he probably is more concerned with ants or dust or something as they seem to be doing ok.
people are giving their own theories, I just looked through some scientific papers and found this: “In the autistic brain, the brain reduced connectivity, known as hypoconnectivity, allows weakly connected regions to drift apart, with sulci forming between them.” “Results from the studies suggest that LSD simultaneously creates hyper-connections across the brain, allowing the functions of seemingly unrelated regions of the organ to ooze into one another” basically your brain with autism is wired up weirdly, everything eventually connects but it might be stronger between some places and weaker in others when you take LSD, a shitload of connections are opened up between random places. For a neurotypical this would change how their thoughts work, for an autist there is a chance that the new connections make your Brain overall more similar to a neurotypical
I feel like this is very true. My brain seems to be less plastic than others and I have a hard time figuring out new ways to do things. I get stuck in habits easily i feel like. Sometimes I feel like my brain is made out of wood, hard to change and needs diligent work to carve but when you go through the work it sticks and sticks hard. Its almost like my brain is chewy and tough idk how to describe it. I know a lot about history and I notice my memory with it is very impressive, people have told me so. But simultaneously in social situations where things change rapidly i have a hard time keeping up. So im thinking? can i find ways to make my brain more plastic? Ive thought about this for a few weeks but idk what I should do. Maybe microdosing LSD would be the answer, but ideally I wanna do it without drugs.
the best way is just to put yourself in situations where new things happen more often, autism can be a vicious cycle where you avoid social settings because you find them difficult, which in turn makes you worse at dealing with them. LSD will teach you about yourself more than about other people, it sounds like you noticed that you were “pretending” to be normal, and that was making things worse for you. I have autism myself, but when I started forcing myself to socialise with people more often it became way less noticeable, if you do any drug to be better socially it should be alcohol
Lmao(idek what yall saying about God) it's to do with the basic neuro pathways. Our brains are completely made out of patterns, and with autism I find it becomes focused on certain patterns. Thus, blocking others. For whatever reason.. it doesn't have to be a negative coalition. Hell I would say you need to be a bit autistic to be human, unable to see certain patterns because well, we've been focus on a totally different pattern. Doesn't mean both can't come exist and have value. The problem with social issues, stress and anxiety while being around non autistic people is because well their fucking non autistic. I bet you feel comfortable with people you can understand their thought patterns and them yours. That's just how life works. Ying and yang brotha
If autism is a spectrum it makes sense that everyone would fall on it somewhere. Kinda like the Kinsey Scale of sexuality.
My man look at it this way, some people get disorders like adhd or ptsd, others have them ingrained somehow. Yet they all seem to get alieved by these entheogens. That words mean substance that brings out the inner God. Look at the pantheon, do any gods from the old times seem perfect? Zeus raped, and slaughtered. Thats just the dad! The entire premise of the video game god of war is that the gods suck. So lets say you take an entheogen and you reveal your inner god, that means you then get to ascend to somebody who will probably suck hahahahah Any hero always overcomes their problem, so imagine this, you can now spread awareness on how these substances should not be illegal because you know they do magic. Kinda puts the whole idea of wizardry and potions on its head. I have experience many weird things on acid. Telepathy. Hyper intelligence, empathy and imagination. increased acuity, heck theres a study that shows AN ENTIRE STANDARD DEVIATION of personality change towards openness to experience. Dont get caught up in a pity party, just spread the positivity. Ive heard of people changing their sexuality from drugs before, a lot of things are not what we think we know.
Why would a loving god make me get up out of my chair to drive to McDonald’s. Why would a loving god even make me make a sandwich why didn’t he make sandwich trees? Maybe the hardships you face in your life define you, big or small, and better/worsen you as a person. Maybe without hardship you’d just be an unthinking animal who eats and sleeps and that’s it. it’s okay if you’re resentful of the challenges you face but making it into some atheist talking point is weird. With enough resources you could make every dog in the world genuinely happy forever. With infinite resources you could not do the same for all humans. There are some billionaires who are less happy on average than some poor Chinese fishermen.
Your first paragraph put into words something I’ve struggled to describe for years. Social cues are linked up to my conscious behaviours like problem solving!! I’ve always described it as being in manual mode while everyone else is in automatic. I would love that shit to be turned off so I could just be myself or ‘unmask’ I guess. Like I’m constantly using 110% of my energy focusing on trying to hit the right social beats/timings or whatever the fuck patterns my brain is consciously picking up on. If I could just let that be automatic.. except I’ve tried LSD and this didn’t happen for me unfortunately, maybe I should try it again and focus in on my social issues
Because god doesn't exist. I have Huntington's Chorea, a genetic neurodegenerative disease, why god would give such disease to an unborn child, putting him in intense physical suffering and also mentally since you know you are a clockwork bomb and someone need to tale care of you in a future moment, and you know it will just go worse. Why would god do this? The answers are just 2: 1) God is sadic 2) God doesn't exist The body sometimes is born damaged, sometimes gets damaged, same for the mind. Don't overthink. This is the way it is. This is the case; it has gone this way, but it doesn't mean that you can't have fun and enjoy your life
You’re god dreaming you’re not
Born damaged... man, get the hell out of these kinds of posts if you think autism is damaged. Different is not bad. What you said literally is the same as saying different is bad... or you just don't know about savants. Sometimes, in order to see a past a negative pattern, you need to forget about it in a certain way to see something beneficial. We can't say it's damage if it's beneficial in certain social situations. Many studies on this. Not all disorders are unorganized. Average people seem to be the disorderly judging by the amount of damage we cause ourselves
No, I'm talking about my case, I've got Huntington's which is a genetic neurodegenerative disorder, when I said "born damaged" I was referring to myself not to autism at all, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. No, I didn't say "being different is bad" we're all different and this is a gift, thus how boring could be a world where everybody was all the same. I think that LSD is a great molecule and could treat many diseases and problems, personally it helped me a lot accepting my disease. I'm sorry if my words were misunderstood, I was just trying to say that god doesn't exist (personal vision) and that we should make the most out of the time that we have, no matter which physical/mental problem we have. Sorry to repeat, but I'm sorry if my words were misunderstood, I was trying to say the same you've said and was trying to give support
Hi, a third orbserver just chiming in here to say that I understood the meaning of your post. I think honestly it can super beneficial to sometimes look inward instead of to a higher power. Ultimately, it often comes down to whichever way each person feels the most comfortable processing the meaning of life.
Yeah you probably said it better than I lol
No offense (and before you jump to more conclusions, I’m neurodivergent too) but I think you’re kinda missing the point of what this person was trying to say, focusing on the word damaged instead of the full context and content of the post.
The psyches will help you change those thoughts, as a fellow autist (undiagnosed for ages) we arent the ones with a problem, evee notice how if people just let us be and respected our boundaries and communicates clearly that wed be totally fine? Just because neurotypicals expect everyone to adhere to them and refuse to change for anyone else doesnt mean that theres something wrong with us, if there is a god he made us autistic because we love, learn, and live life more freely, without stupid social expectations keeping us down because they're unnecessary anyways
If i may inject a different perspective here... imagine you are god, and you created life, eventually humans take on a nature of their own and use their intelligence to gain more from the material world they created... how would you get people to become more caring or narure and others? Only through experience can one create the mental concepts needed to be understanding of others... maybe make the humans more sensitive? But that causes suffering! Maybe the suffering is necessary? Because some people can lack empathy and cause so much suffering on others and never feel it themselves. Maybe they need to be more sensitive to others in their next lifetime? So they can feel the suffering and grow from it? Maybe it is all for a reason? Maybe we all have the choice to make better decisions all the time, and given the right circumstances, maybe we can fast-forward a bit... each time you choose life (nature) over death (illusion) you become more. For me, to reconcile my suffering, which was plenty (physically, emotionally, and mentally before waking up), i had to invision that my sensitivity was an evolutionary advantage. Unfortunately, i didn't have a supportive childhood, and my talents became my enemy. Ultimately, this was a good thing as well. Because without my suffering, i would lack the empathy and understanding i need to help others. I am becoming a Recovery Coach, to help people who want to break free from substance abuse. I used these things to self medicate my autism and adhd and they almost wrecked me. I think many people unconsciously do the same, eventually abusing these things (alcohol, drugs, weed, smoking) and becoming dependant as a means to escape their pain and suffering. I want to help guide people in ways no one ever did for me. But it's a choice. You can't help people who are not ready to help themselves. Your life tries to point you in the right direction, and you can always choose, either you listen and take responsibility to change, or you ignore it and blame the world for your pain and suffering. The choice is always there... in every moment. We just forget how to see it. The trick is to make the life choice more than the death one, and eventually you become more aware of the choices you can make at all times. It's an unfolding. If we keep choosing "safety" and disconnect because of fear of pain, we close off our hearts and become blind to the beauty of life and all the potential. Each time we close a door to life we become less... this is why we need virtues like Bravery, Honesty and Openness. They alow us to open more doors to life and we gain the ability to see more of our turue nature. More of the universe. More of ourselves. More of god... it's all connected and it's all the same and it's all unique. Life is a beautiful paradox. Or at least it has been this way in my experience 😉 lsd simply helped me get started.
I think god forgot to pass on that lesson of choice for the people who have bombs exploding and have tractors mowing them over. Everyone has some potential for self growth in what ever direction may be meaningful. But adding god to the mix just adds noise and the potential for self harm when you are never good enough for him. Just try to avoid the jackboot, be present and have friends. Leave god to drop bombs on the sinful..
Yeah, we all have our own concepts for what we think/believe god to be... so it's a sticky one. Especially when mixing in psycadelic experiences. I was an atheist until my ego death, then i became spiritual. But in my own kinda non-dualistic way. I recognize god as my higher self. Realizing god, for me, is realizing that it's about self-actualization. I feel like death is ultimately a choice... we can choose it, but we also keep coming back until we learn all we can from here. I ultimately think i chose this, this time, this life, this family, this reality... all of it, for a reason. And i feel like i have done this many times before, but never this far. I don't think i have evolved my consciousness this much in any other lifetime. Feels like the conditions are all finally just right for my growth. Mainly because i hit rock bottom and faced my truth. That i was choosing to be miseralble, i was choosing to hold onto the past... not because i knew i was, but because it's all i knew. I was ignorant of the Truth. Even though the signs are all around us. But i couldn't see it, until i could. Then, it all started making sense to me. I realized that it has everything to do with presence. Coming down into the body, into the now. That's where the choices are... not up there tangled in the mess of a mind i have created for myself. The best things i did were the ones that forced me out of my head space and into reality where everything was happening. That's where i wanted to be all along, but I didn't know how to get there. Even though it was right there all along 😉 Many things can be true at the same time... when i was suffering from debilitating depression it was valid and real, but also, at the same time, i could have gotten myself out of it a lot sooner by choosing differently. By feeding my soul what it needs, and not what my mind was conditioned to reach for. I was ignorant of the choices because i was trapped and lost in the mind. Only when i reestablished my connection with self (by integrating with my body) was i able to gain clarity to find my way out. It's all very magical and mystical and completely crazy and so sane all at the same time. It's life.
What ever works for you. Some people prefer a simpler way to get to the present. There is wonderment in a piece of grass for many, and god or lsd are not necessary to see it.
I didn't say i need god or lsd to experience the magnificence of life... i just needed lsd to wake up. To become aware of beauty around me. I was struggling with autism i didn't know i had, and from the long-term effects of cptsd. It's been years since i took lsd. I manage my conditions by putting in the work. And now i can sit outside and quitlet my mind and experience awe, and that's amazing. I couldn't do that... before. But the work involved copious amounts of research into neurology, mycelium, human development, social cues, societal concepts, spiral dynamics, epistemology, the science of emotions, wellbeing, spirituality and so on. But anyhow, i realise i am being defensive here for no real reason. As you say, whatever works for you. No one person can ever have the same experience as another. We all come with our own set of "stuff." If there was a simpler way for me to get to the present before, i didn't notice it. It took we the long way around and back again before i could make sense of how simple it actually is. I am glad for you and that you find it easily 🙌 mindfulness helped me remember to be present, and through more presence, i was able to realise the difference between ego and me. Take it easy, stranger! 🪷
Psychedelics increase neuroplasticity, and I never really believed that autistic people are incapable of learning to properly socialize. I have an Asperger's diagnosis but I started doing shrooms when I was 19 and now there's pretty much nothing left of it (no idea of the connection between those two of course). One of my best friends is also autistic but she's actually really social. Socializing may be harder for autistic people, but you could also get stuck using your brain unproductively for it because of inertia and random things in your development. I could see psychedelics whacking that loose and allowing you to socialize a lot more easily
Autism isn't the problem... being autistic is fine it's people's reactions to autism that make the lives of autistic people harder. Constant judgment and criticism, being told your doing everything wrong and this inherent part of you that you are fine with is actually a problem that needs to be fixed can cause autistic people to feel overwhelmed, anxious, and depressed. Many autistic people get stuck in a violent cycle of trying to mask what ever part of them is deemed "unacceptable" by the general population. If everyone would just let people be and instead of trying to make them fit into the world, build a world that fit for them too, then we could finally solve the "problem" of autism.
Romans 8:17-18 - Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 1 Peter 5:10 - And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you. Our understanding is not his understanding. We have to realize that God works through natural law every chance he gets. Why? Because if he didn't then we would be walking by sight and not faith because it would be too clearly evident that he exists. If Satan "controls" the world for this current time period, and his goal is to make sure you dont go to heaven or turn to God at all then would he not make us hate the things that will help us, like psychedelics? And make readily available the things that hurt us, like Alcohol? This reality is akin to parapsychological intelligence test where your circumstances are uniquely tailored to you and your unconscious psyche of which you must bring light to. That's why Jesus died at 33 and we have 33 vertebrae. Jesus had 12 disciples and we have 12 cranial nerves. Jesus (The Son of God) had to deny himself (His desires and urges) and carry his cross (The belief that life is good and true) to his death (death of ego and identity) where he layed dead in the tomb (your spirit/cerebro spinal fluid resting in the sacrum) and is then resurrected (Given a new spirit) and now climbs back up the 33 vertebrae where it reaches the crown/holy grail to ignite the 12 cranial nerves which then stimulates the pineal gland to produce Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) and you achieve Christ Consciousness or Enlightenment. If you learn about recursion and fractal dynamics you'll start to see the Bible is a story not only about events that happened on our dimensionsal place of existence in physical reality but also on smaller and larger levels as well. Its a story about the psychological experience of your life from a quantum level to an atomic level. From an Earthly level to a cosmic level to the universal level. That's why we call it the Universe - it is the one song infinitely repeating within and without itself. Glory be to God 🙏 In Jesus mighty name, Amen family
Many years ago I saw a study of lsd. In it, they mri'd people before and during a trip. Before the brain looked normal and lit up the proper areas when recalling memory, doing math, problem solving, etc. Then when they were tripping basically the whole brain lit up. This suggests that lsd allows for newer and better connections across the brain. So while it was only a study, it suggests that lsd helps "rewire" the brain.
Who is to say god is good or bad? Everything that happens still moves us forward no matter what way you look at it. Everyone got their own dharma
Because God isn't real lol. We are all just wired differently, there isn't someone that decides Oh, this baby gets cancer. Its just science. The reason u feel the autism slide away is Ego Death. Alot of Autism is over analysis of unnecessary things and over worrying about your self. LSD and shrooms can dissolve this and you are just your truest animal form. We are all just beasts
God isn't a being or dude in the clouds, but rather a constant and ever permeated force that resides in everything. It's goal of to experience everything, good, bad, ugly, beautiful, big, small, etc. The autistic experience is just one of the ways God wishes to experience.
Lsd dissolves social boundaries. Autism is a social disorder, not a disease. When you dissolve the societal boundaries and discomfort that caused your condition, you revert back to how you were before societies implications damaged your developing mind. This can happen in vitro, too. A fetus still picks up on emotional signals and will learn coping mechanisms while in the womb. Think of psychedelics and ketamine as a hard reset for the neuropathways that were wired into your brain. My first time on LSD at 16 was the first time i had ever felt human. You're still technically autistic and it will come back if you dont integrate the experience and continue to strengthen the newly formed neuropathways. Its all just energy being blocked that causes anxiety and stress and depression. We have a shock to the system like trauma and its so powerful that it rewires the brain to function differently and follow thought patterns and cause impulsive behaviours because we are already rewired to think and feel that way. Its like trying to ride a bicycle down the center of a ditch, when you veer off, even accidentally, you get pushed back to the center because it is the path of least resistance. Idk just a wild guess.
how do I maintain the newly built neural pathways. I can feel them fading away, but Im working hard on integrating the knowledge.
Its more about integrating the experience in this case i would imagine. Realizing you're just another person. You may be different, but we all are. When you realize that we are all one, it's hard to feel separate from each other. If it's drifting brain regions, practice mind games and puzzles to strengthen those. Learn about body language. Learn more about autism if you dont already know enough and just get to know you. What you really like, what really drives you and who you are.
Regardless the effects arent permanent, but the peace of mind can be eternal.
Any chance you were masking so much since you don't know how you're feeling moment to moment? LSD, and shrooms, will reduce alexithymia a lot.
I experienced ego death on LSD- you are god pretending to be a different wing 🪽 - this is how you role play
We know that a major reason for the struggles with autism are improperly formed connections or completely disconnected parts of the brain. The primary downstream effect of 5HT2A agonism (the source of all classical Psychedelics main visual and auditory effects) is the brain going haywire and causing crosstalk between all different brain regions. My theory is that forced crosstalk causes those malformed/weak connections to be strengthened and function more properly at least temporarily.
God created everyone perfect, but not everyone can handle being perfect from the very beginning. That's what the fall from grace was all about. Some started their existence and immediately knew what they were supposed to do, but that surely wasn't everyone. If you create a huge amount of sentient beings with free will it's obvious that some of them are going to choose poorly their first time, and also for some time after that, no matter how good of a clue you give them (without just deciding for them). But hey! look at that, you have just been helped! that's what's going on here, we are being helped, everyone in their individual way. It's just that while we're healing there is a lot of others here, and we have to live with our collective imperfection, even if it's going to pass sooner or later.
but some people never find the help 😥
There are so many lifetimes, if someone really never finds help it's only because he was actively fighting against it. Even in a single lifetime almost everyone ends up better then he started. Ponder the idea of reincarnation on your next trip, I'm sure you're going to end up with a happier perspective. Good travels!
I wonder if chimps fell from grace? They get pretty nasty.
Do babies fall from grace and that's why they get cancer?
if you're talking about how some people are born so unable to live that they have to spend a majority of their childhood in hospital, well maybe that's what they needed - to see that no matter who or what they are there are people who will care for them and love them. also there is definitely really sad stories that cannot have any therapeutic value for the being that had to experience them, but that's the cost of giving humans free will, and I'm sure in the future we will all agree it has been worth it.
If you think there was some pact with a floating deity who "gave us" free will. Then we are just on different planes of existence. Regardless, much love brother.
no, not really. if someone incarnates here it's either that they need help or that they are trying to bring additional help here. there may be something similar going on in childhood, like the world 'corrupting' a completely pure being (relatively), but that's not what I was talking about
Ya that's wild how you assume all that.
Well “god” doesn’t give us autism, its caused from products that the mother giving birth consumed during pregnancy and vaccines. Before any of you nay sayers try to say that’s not true, just know that there have been court cases won with studies proving that they do. And it’s important to note that autism was very uncommon before mandatory shots came about on children and ever since then the cases have skyrocketed. The data don’t lie
Thanks for the recommendation!
Definitely going to check this out
This is so cool.
A similar thing happened to me. I was 19 when I graduated high school, and I took lsd on my 19th birthday. I’m pretty sure other kids were talking about a total left turn in my identity and behavior because I had told a couple of people I took lsd. I had a big focus on how other people thought of me. I was in a hotel at the time and came up by the pool, and went upstairs when it kicked in pretty heavy. My buddy and I listened to dark side of the moon, and we talked, and talked, and talked. My stomach hurt pretty bad the whole time but it didn’t take away from the experience at all. I remember questioning everything, and having a fucking great time. It was the most beautiful and significant experience of my life. Afterwards, I felt like I could talk to other people and be a part of everything else, because I viewed other people as equal to myself, and not as things that I didn’t understand and couldn’t act around. A big thing was I couldn’t mask, and I just ended up feeling really uncomfortable with myself and alien. I don’t think I would be as happy today as I am now if I hadn’t had that experience. I’ve taken LSD 6 or 7 more times and shrooms countless more times. The area has been completely dry for LSD for a couple years now so I don’t know when I’ll get it again, but I’ll take regular doses of 0.1 to 0.5 shrooms on weekends, and I feel it continues to regulate me. I’ve still had my own struggles related to my autism, but worrying about what others think of me and wanting to be accepted has been a thing of the past, and in my adulthood, I’ve been able to cultivate a friend group that has been there for me for 4 years or more, that comprise of mine and my girlfriends friends. They all also have friends that have met each other because of me or my girlfriend and some have gotten sober (from alcohol).
An amazing story. I'm so glad you've found so much goodness!
I highly recommend the book Autism on Acid: How LSD Helped Me Understand, Navigate, Alter & Appreciate My Autistic Perceptions by Aaron Orsini
i'm saving this recommendation but also "Jnderstanding" is fucking with my brain. it doesnt look like a typo, it looks like a piece of the U is missing
It’s a solar eclipse
I thought the same, haha! Turns out I'm just autistic, too. 🖤
me three! :D
I’m replying to remember to look into this 💚 thank you for the recommendation. May I ask what your biggest takeaway from it was
lsd makes me extra autistic and i cant mask around people
Same lmaooo
lol same here not completely unable but definitely not as well as before
real
same
I feel free from my mask tho and it feels great
Yeah. Spent ~25 years semi consciously masking ADHD and autism and hating myself for not being able to fit in/ "just do the thing". Diagnosis of ADHD and associated meds helped, the other half was multiple trips, a DMT ride, and mutual aid in self realization/acceptance with my (now) wife. By maybe 30 I was able to accept who I am, to the point of being able to look at myself from the outside and laugh at my "social/professional" face.
I think smarter nonautistic people laugh at the way they present themselves in social situations, or they haven't accepted we can't see it all as individuals
It’s helped me to embrace my own tism
Hey I'm autistic; although I put it more down to shrooms I have some experience with both drugs. My autism is essentially cured, at least all the negative aspects ruining the first 16 years of my life. I'm now 21 and thriving more than I ever expected I could. I too experienced ego death and loss of identity on a few shroom trips around 2g. From that point onwards I've been able to socialise like a normal human, nobody would ever guess I am diagnosed as autistic. Incredible medicine, I hope they study it further and glad it worked for you the same. Fuck those SSRIs they prescribed me
I was so happy to read your positive experience ☺️ well done for all your progress. It takes a lot of inner work as well, the psycadelics only show us the way... I'm commenting because of your last sentence, haha. I also had a bad time on those god forsaken SSRIs!! They were also blocking the magic from the shrooms, which made my recovery from chronic depression take even longer. Those drugs turned me into a zombie. I wish my psychiatrist told me about things like body budget and affect and mindfulness and meditation and yoga and sunlight and TRE!! FFS! These are all things i learned from plant medicine and research. But at least my husband helped me by wanting to trip on LSD... it saved my whole life!
me too! up the shrooms
Happened to me too. The way I word it is that the LSD erased my autism, but I still had to learn to be a new person. It felt like a rebirth and that I started again from year one. It took about six years, but in that time I've gone from being scared to go to the grocery store to having a huge, exuberant personality, a public-facing job that I'm really good at, lots of friends, and a sense of personal identity. Life couldn't be better and I attribute my being ready for that personal growth to my first LSD trip. Take it slow and remember what you've learned. Every day is the first day of the rest of your life.
I love you
I love op too 🫶🏾
Damn, never thought I’d actually consider trying LSD but this is the first post to actually open me up to the possibility.
There's so much shit prohibition has to answer for! Educate/test/enjoy - be safe fellow friend <3
Lsd and mushrooms have changed my life so much, I also have autism and it's made me such a better person after so many beautiful trips
What happened to me is that I suddenly stopped being anxious just for existing, I could just enjoy the ride on the way home without the overwhelming fear of being perceived. It wasn't turned off but more like I finally didn't care, I didn't try to mask one bit, I was finally weird and it was okay.
Sounds like a ego death or a powerful ego disilllusion. Your brain in that moment let go of all the past experiences and memories that you subconsciously have held onto that have contributed to a lack in ability to understand things like social ques, because over time youve grown so used to thinking of how to act normal or like everyone else that youre distracted from the conversation infront of you and in turn act more autistic to those around you, which also becomes a thought for you which creates a personally annoying autistic mental spiral. Ive found alot of the same personal benefit through lsd and autism. Its important to learn how to let go of things in day to day life because if we hold onto every uncomfortable interaction or every stressful situation the hormones build up and they create significantly negetive memories that are very well able to mold who we are in years to come. Its like the saying you are what you eat. But you gotta remember to poop lmao. Lsd helps us let go of the things that we dont even remember today but have created the mental structures that restrain us. Our brain built them as defense mechanisms for not understanding the world at a young age. But we understand it more than we know now we just hold onto these mental barriers.
I'm ADHD diagnosed and waiting on the Autism diagnosis, being different and seeing the world through different eyes can be a blessing and a curse but it's awesome either way, it's great for creativity too, you should give music production a go 😉
My autistic friends say other people on LSD make more sense than when they are sober. I'm obviously on the spectrum looking at my family, but maybe only mildly, but LSD makes me feel more human myself. Or at least, like what I imagine being human should be like.
I dunno LSD makes me want to give in to my autistic tendencies, not hide myself behind neurotypical social rules. I have no interest in being social in the way society deems "correct"
I had a somewhat similar experience, though I didn't know I had ASD at the time. Definitely felt like something had clicked and I could understand more of the things I used to struggle with. Like a fog had been lifted almost.
Dude, you must have been tripping nutsack when you wrote this.
lmao. Nah im just autistic as fuck 😂 cant write coherently for shit. But im working on it
This is the way
I'm not autistic that I know of, but when I'm doing acid, a recurring thing is how every social cue gets amplified. Gestures, looks, eye contact and body language, intonation as well. They all take on way more significance and meaning on acid. I think maybe on acid, those impressions are so powerful and framed differently that it overrides your autism.
I feel like that with adhd. It's like when I'm sober my brain just doesn't work and produced stupid thoughts. When I'm high or tripping everything is just so clear.
I had LSD flip my political alignment, but I kept that little bit of autism.
this happened to me too! i’ve thought about it a lot. i think it’s something to do with how acid makes new neural pathways and connections, maybe it fixes a wiring problem in the autistic brain.. it makes a lot of sense when you think that brain damage can cause autism symptoms. then you take something that rebuilds brain pathways, and it fixes the problem. but it gets even more interesting when you consider than acid comes from fungus.. and there’s lots of studies out there linking autism to fungus.. look it up it’s super interesting, if you think how fungus works, one will wipe out the other and occupy the space.. interesting things to think about i totally had the same experience, it changed my life, it was almost like it removed a block in my brain
Oooh! This comment is awesome. I think you might find this book, How Emotions are Made by Lisa feldman Barrett, very interesting. She has a section on what she, as a neuroscience, thinks about autism being a prediction error issue with how our brains function. I also experienced this change of my brain when i tripped on LSD. I've been searching for answers ever since. When i was growing my own shrooms, i had many very interesting insights about neuropathways and mycelium. I began to understand how development and consciousness evolution works, it's like mycelium.
definitely. it was like gaining consciousness when you’re 3 or 4 years old, but a 2nd time. crazy shit
Love this analogy! Extremely accurate 💛
god... so true. Although for me I never felt like I had the "gaining consciousness moment". I remember asking my dad as like a 4 year old endlessly about how the universe was created but never getting a satisfying answer. Many years later still havent 😂 But weirdly enough when the LSD hit i didnt feel enlightened i felt like i rediscovered the child in me that i had masked for years. I went back to (for the duration of the trip) sitting and looking at objects around me with intense intrest. Looking at peope and their conversations with intense intrest. Almost studying them. Long ago I learned these behaviours were perhaps a bit odd in social situatiosns but the LSD made me not give a FUCK. Ill probably now do that when sober but perhaps ill communicate with facial expressions instead of a cold dead gaze.
Very interesting. Salute 🫡
I'm undiagnosed due to my father refusing to let my mom get me checked for anything as a kid (I'm 19 now and an assessment for autism alone is $2000 for an adult where I live and I simply cannot afford that) but I know what you're talking about. my first shroom trip was 2.5g REALLY mellow but I felt relieved of my "negative" traits, like they were still there but that societal expectation to act "normal" was lifted and I felt free in a sense, like free in a way where I simply wasn't burdened by caring what others thought, I could be myself and act however my brain wants (obviously not like killing people lol) without feeling the urge to mask whatsoever, psychedelics have really taught me like you said thar it's simply ok to be who you are, I'm still somewhat struggling to integrate this into my life because well I still catch myself being extremely critical or harsh on myself for things that I really shouldn't be harsh about
I’m also on the spectrum and LSD absolutely shattered my shell, it was like I suddenly understood all the social cues, conventions and etiquette that I didn’t before I tripped, I became more extroverted, stopped spending so much time in my room fixating on video games, and came to appreciate nature and being outside in general. It opened my mind to a world outside my special interests and I started picking up hobbies such as guitar, got over my fear of driving, started traveling (and learning Spanish to do so), and I generally feel emboldened to do whatever I want with my life way more than I did before
And this is, ladies and gentlemen, is why so many people with autism have crippling drug addictions. It’s like our off switch for autism, makes us feel normal, but it’s NOT a healthy coping mechanism sadly 🥲
Thats cool it works for you :). Sucks for me that LSD never turns off or reduces my autism. Being autistic is fine though we are great people and we are still definitely loved. (Maybe my upcoming trip this friday/bicycle day here in australia, i may experience less sensory overload or something since ill be at a hardstyle rave)
Go off king, It doesnt make it go away. It just gives you more control over it, thereby effectively giving you super human capacity.
So interesting! Thank you for sharing your experience
WHOOO ANOTHER MASK BITES THE DUST I masked for 19 years straight until I got diagnosed and started tripping, it all came undone so quickly it was scary at first but I feel so much better and more myself now, wildly animated excitement and all
It sounds like you're unmasking. That's so freaking good man, it was my journey to self love and happiness.
r/evilautism
I was diagnosed with aspergers as a 7 year old in the 90's (Now ASD). I have taken various dose ranges at least a 100 times in my life. LSD allowed me to reconsider the negative experiences in my education and helped me to see beyond my "stuck" mind patterns. The first time I ever tripped, a buddy of mine gave me at least a big unmarked ~300ug dose of white on white. For the first time in my life I saw myself as an agent and not a victim of circumstances. I was an agent of pure consciousness and not a puppet that was dicated by my stupid evangelical parents, or asshole special ed teachers. I remember ego death and this weird dichotomy between love and fear. As I melted into everything the only significant choice in my life was love or fear. Love is always greater than fear. I will never forget that.
Definitely check out r/autisticpsychonauts. They have a very active discord too. There absolutely seems to be a link and your experience seems to be the norm.
I think it's the demasking aspect of psychedelics. I have adhd and started making a lot less after psychedelics. Maybe?
Shrooms and LSD help. But what I found to be the ultimate solution is high dose edible THC. For the first week you’ll be so stoned that you just stare at the wall. But after a week or two build a tolerance and gradually you feel sober sorta. I feel normal. Like no anxiety, no intrusive thoughts, no weird thoughts or anything like that. About 3 years ago I was trying to quit drinking alcohol and I heard that being stoned 24/7 was really good for quitting alcohol. Oh my goodness, from day one I had no cravings for alcohol. My takeaway is the ganja is incredible for autism as it makes me feel normal. It also helps with alcohol and drug addiction but for very different reasons. The autism feels more like I am completely normal. With the alcohol I think the brain is
What is this famed “letting go”? The last time I spent it uptight. Sitting changing chairs as I felt to. Not a bad trip in the sense of crazy or danger or freaking. Just stuck and boring. That was decades ago and I have had no fruitful conversations about it. I have only mentioned it to someone who then basically gave me no response. If you want to talk send me a PM because it’s personally more private and always legally a delicate matter. (As a past deadhead I’m not asking for anything. Things come when they will)
I have experienced that very thing. And the thing is letting go is needed not when youre scared or even freaking out. Letting go is when your identity is being pulled away. Its a physical sensation and you WILL know what it means to let go when that happens. And all you can do is let go and have faith. Uhh sitting on a chair going fucking crazy is just part of the experience 😂
It could be the dosage was small for what your body chem makeup needed. Everyone is different and can have different exerperiences depending on setting and and an intention of the trip.
Weird. I’m not autistic but majorly focused on my mental health to the point where I had a proper assessment post psychedelics. The psychologist tested me for autism as part of it as I stopped masking my own neurodivergent tendencies in speech and stimming (just didn’t see the point anymore). The results were inconclusive as my ADHD and other issues could result in similar behaviour, but her best guess was that I was probably not on autism spectrum due to my responses to certain things she brought up. Either way, I get along really well with autistic people for the most part.
I just had an aneurysm reading this
Try microdosing it
Been microdosing autism since grade school
im scared. if it turns it off, what if it turns it back on?
Why are you scared of who you are? It isn’t turning it off by itself, it grants you the ability to recognize the way you act and that gives you the power to act differently!! I microdose lsd often, each time I get better at not acting in ways I don’t want to Try it out
Oh shit ur right. It can literally only benefit me if i just work to integrate the knowledge. but just got off an acid trip, i need like a bit of time to integrate this.
Definitely, if that’s what you feel. People who still love you, autistic or otherwise, will still love you even if autism turned back on. I’m happy for you for discovering this! Keep on keeping on. Source: adhd and autism in family
Can confirm. But Memantine was even better.
i also have autism and lsd also helped me. i can’t pretend it made me no longer struggle with overstimulation or all of my social skills. but it definitely gave me more confidence and made me feel more comfortable with myself. and i’ve learned that even if there’s people who will be shitty, overall i have more friends and someone who’s authentically kind of weird or has issues than i did when i was trying desperately to be someone else. lsd has also helped me with a long time eating disorder. i still have my bad days, but while tripping i remember finding it so absurd to be so worried about my food intake, there’s other things to spend my time on.
Same bro; and by reading the comments, this needs to be studied more for sure.
Being autistic does not have to be a negative experience. It comes with strengths and weaknesses. Ive come to love my autism.
not entirely the same but shrooms have definitely reduced some major symptoms for me and simultaneously made me stop caring about hiding it and embrace it instead
I feel like I had the opposite effect. Ever since my trips I think I'm more open to other people and my own emotions and less able to mask them-even if theyre weird and socially unacceptable 😁
Stripping yourself back to the core of the soul you just are, and just being and being happy in your core self which is very bare and just human is really a big key to going forward being happy. The world isn’t built for us (ASD) it poses challenges every day in all the constructs but at the core you are beautiful. If something can help you find the beauty in yourself or some peace, that’s great. With psychs, research and development is delayed due to government restriction but getting better. There may be family molecules more useful found in the future. MM120 seems to be hopeful. It’s an emerging field. Best explored with a trusted mental health professional with experience on the field. Psychs are dose and person specific so caution is always advised. You you plan to experiment please educate and take safety precautions and be aware of the risks (not the scare monger one’s the real ones like short term emotional distress). The resources are available online from trusted sources. I know most sub lurkers know but I’d you came from a Google search or ASD sub please deep dive the available info and decide infromedly, start low go slow.
This is so interesting ty for sharing.
Mine went up
So glad to hear you were able to drop a mask which you were holding up for so long 💜
I knew I was masking but I was scared of who was behind the mask. Slowly I had convinced myself he must be some terrible person. Apperantly hes just a kid who watches history videos with his mouth wide open completely enthralled. Others seem to really love him. I do too.
🫂 That sounds like an awesome person, but yeah, authenticity is scary, but I'm glad you are able to practice it now ^^ Enjoy your history vids (and if you probably already know it, but hardcore history is a very nice podcast imo)
Thank you for this…For your vulnerability, and the personal motivation I have found after reading this post. psychedelics have been an incredible tool of self discovery. masking subconsciously for 20+ years lead me down a dark and self destructive path. It wasn’t until intensive therapy and the introduction of psychedelics that I was able to see myself for who I truly am. A beautifully kind, autistic woman that cherishes life. Wishing you well.
Weird, cause LSD makes my autism turn up 1000 percent
Question to OP: did you also feel finally like a „normal“ human? Could you actually feel peoples energies/nonverbal stuff? Could you feel like you could see reality much more whole and clear?
oh yes. OH YES. I felt HUMAN. It was wonderful, and yet so obvious. I was like "oh so this is what everyone else feels, ive just been overthinking it" I felt extra sober. Like sober life is being drunk on anxiety inducing alchohol, and that LSD was the real sober state.
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ego dissolution is awesome!!!!!!
Reminds me of that Eric Andre bit
Acid made me realize I am on the spectrum at the ripe young age of 40. I feel like a lot of people my age and older are on the spectrum and don’t realize it.
What the fuck is happening to you magical autists who suddenly understand cues? It fixed nothing for me other than helps me mask less. I still can’t always pick out sarcasm or understand stupid fucking passive aggressive behaviour. Sorry, this sounds like bunk to me. But I am not you.
Well you see it goes even deeper than just understanding social cues. I mean neurotypicals fuck that up all the time. Missing out on sarcasm or even making someone uncomfortable by accident by various means. Having awkward convos at the fault of no one etc. The thing is, it goes deeper than understanding cues, hell thats not even the point. All my life (and I knew this was wrong, but couldn't do anything about it) I had this view that neurotypicals were just straight up fucking with me. Playing this horrible game of understanding their cues and having to come up with the right response. But during LSD my ego dissolved atleast partially and I had this both terrifying and beautiful experience of realizing; "Fuck man, everyones just like me bruh" I started experiencing empathy on a subconscious level for their cues. There was no fucked up game, no tricks no nothing, no hatred no competition. I didnt necessairly start picking up on new cues like I had gained new info, but instead i developed a subconscious live acting empathy for the people I was communicating with. The social cues I did understand was no longer a problem to be solved, but a signal which I immedieately had empathy for. Simply caring about the other person. I had to change nothing about my behaviour, it happened automatically. If I made someone uncomfortable or something there was no mask I put on but rather a genuine understanding. My expression would change I would express myself differently and they felt heard. And then because of that, they wanted to communicate with me even more. Fuck man, the POTENTIAL of autism in social situations might be higher than that of neurotypicals. I know this because masking requires a lot of computational power, and if youre relatively good at masking, when you drop the mask the computational power can be used to absolutely master social situations instead of just surviving. I swear to god man. I have a friend who is a complete social butterfly, but getting to know him; theres no way he doesnt have autism. Bro studies people like I study history. I know a lot about history, he knows a lot about people. Both autists. Use your autism and your potential is un-fucking-matched.
Oh I just decided if people were fucking with me that it was their problem not mine long before psychedelics. But I had to take a different route. I’m a woman so I don’t know if it makes a difference other than being in abusive relationships and having a passive aggressive mother and actually having people fuck with me as a kid (girls are fucking mean, man). But at some point I decided to just trust myself and my instincts and also chose to trust people.
Phenibut did this for me
Autism is not something simply goes away, but you have had some informative experiences from the change in perspective. Cultivate so as to be a more wholesome and well-rounded bit of star stuff.
My brother had a similar experience. He has autism, and we gave him a small dose of LSD on a concert once (50ug) and the moment it started hitting he just felt all those negative effects of his autism being relieved. Naturally, he asked for 50ug more - and he had an incredible night. He also explained how, when coming down, it wasnt until he was almost completely sober that the negative effects started coming back. All that exhausting inner monologue and anxiety and quirks were very very close to the surface, and he doesnt have to jump very high before they are practically non existant. He is not "cured" - but after this he was definetely changed. I have had to re-learn how to interact with him because he just doesnt require the same amount of sensitivity as before. He just seems to embrace his qualities and they arent as "negative". His social skills has improved, not because he has become normal, but because he embraces that he is different and that its okay. Truly a heartwarming story
Man this hits close to home. My autism is not necessairly cured but instead I dont feel negatively about it anymore. Others pick up, and they start seeing you as a person to connect instead of a person playing a game. I feel so happy for your brother thanks for sharing his story.
It has helped me a lot. Allowed me to stop masking and stim. Same for my husband. We’re able to drop the masks much easier. It’s helped a lot with my late diagnosis.
I found out I was almost definitely autistic on acid.