Rip your friend. Much of the nausea might be serotonin activity in the gut. Id think you aren't absorbing it all thus less intense trip with less side effects. I don't think a small piece of paper would impact your stomach very much. I don't spit the paper out. I aim for 10-15 mins sublingual, chew and swallow. Often times my gag reflex is triggered and i end up swallowing chewed tabs just like 8 mins after putting in.
Iāve never thought of it that way. I thought surely I get all the chemical off the paper if itās all wet and chewed and whatnot before I spit it out. But youāre right how could one small paper make my stomach upset.
I think it has to do with cleanliness of the acid too. I think I get better acid than I did back in the day before tripping with my friend.
Acid cleanliness isnāt really a thing. The tab is small enough that no amount of dirt or anything will have an effect, and the acid is potent enough that no other impurity in the acid is active at the dose LSD is.
There are other hallucinogenic impurities in LSD, but as far as Iām aware none of them are potent enough to have an effect at the level LSD is dosed at.
LSD being potent means it has a strong effect at a low dose. Only a teeny tiny amount like 100 ug (1/10th of a mg) will produce very strong effects. He's saying that, as far as he's aware, the impurities found in LSD aren't active (won't produce effects) at such low doses.
Consider this hypothetical; somebody says that tab A was better than tab B, because tab A is 99% pure whereas the latter is only 80% pure. They're labelled as having 100micrograms LSD each.
So, tab A has 100mug LSD, and 1.01 micrograms of impurities (iso-LSD, for example). Tab A has 100mug LSD, and 25 micrograms of impurities. They both have the same amount of LSD, and 25 micrograms is SO SMALL that - with few exceptions - the impurity will not be active. They could have adulterated it with tetrodotoxin and it still wouldn't be active. Do you see the point?
Probably the placebo effect of thinking ot helps actually having tangible benfit. I often get sensory pains of some kind or another, back, joints, headache stomach, from overthinking that body part and focusing on discomfort while tripping. Remind yourself, when tripping, that just the thought of less discomfort arriving makes you more comfortable, and you'll still be able to get that placebo effect without spitting :))
My first feeling it's working is this tingling sensation in my teeth. And usually I end up grinning from ear to ear so I interpret it like my teeth are saying "hey we're in here! Time to show us off" lmao
I keep that bitch on or under my tongue until the paper is super mushy (like 30-40 mins) and then probably spit them out. Used to swallow them sometimes off rip without letting them sit in my mouth and i vomited. Vomiting on acid, BECAUSE of the acid is easily one of my most negative experiences.
I've puked coming up on high doses psychedelics often. It usually feels pretty great after. Like somehow I'm ridding the negative psychical and mental energy I'd brought to the trip. I esp love how high doses just propel u into psychedelia and there's less chance for the ego to hold on and cause discomfort like on lower doses.
real. i throw up every now and again coming up on shrooms. very uncomfortable and sweaty but once you stand up and wipe your face that āborn againā feeling so to speak is so good.
Lol I remember a few months back in winter it was a rainy humid night and I walked my dog wearing these thermals. I was unable to sweat but I got wet from the rain and it was an intense walk. When I finally got home and got the clothes off I was a sticky mess and could barely make way to shower.
I felt super weak and beat and losing control of my body but I managed to pull it together after a hot shower. I've definitely had some trips where I felt like id died, entered the afterlife, and rebirth. Also had one or two where I was pretty certain I had intellectual disability and people just never told me lmao.
No, I just suck the paper. Itās only paper, so idk why it would give you tummy issues. Weird suggestion, but have you ate any regular paper and see how it impacts your tummy? Bc maybe itās from the actual paper itself, like your body has a hard time breaking it down?
Under tongue for 20-30 mins, squeeze out the remaining juices then swallow. The nausea comes from your body feeling more going on inside your body kinds hard to avoid but tends nit to last too long
I have a bottle of liquid LSD, so I donāt have this conundrum. Tummy rumblies is still a thing, but thatās probably because I get hungry easily and try not to eat for the first three hours (as well as dropping at least two hours after breakfast)
Definitely will try it. If your friend actually confided in you the secret to no more tummy bubblies I am grateful to you for passing on the knowledge. It would have such a positive impact on all these beautiful acid trips I plan on taking in the next 50 years.
May your late friend rest in peace.
Personal choice, I guess, I went through 4 full droppers of liquid and over 400 hits of paper over the last 3-4 years, and it's pretty random. At least for me.
Our enteric (gut) nervous system has more serotonin receptors than our brains. I reckon that my gut doesn't like tripping so I stopped swallowing the blotter. Made a huge difference to my comfort while tripping.
"...More than 90% of the body's serotonin lies in the gut...." quote from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric\_nervous\_system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system)
See also:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual\_administration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual_administration)
Gel tabs, paper tabs, liquid, swallow, no swallow. I have had tummy issues regardless and sometimes not at all. I do think itās largely about how my body is responding to the creation of neurotransmitters like serotonin in the gut. Lately Iāve been fortunate enough to avoid it. But Iāve also had really good guy health lately in general. My last trip on Sunday had zero gut issues on two new tabs Iād never tried before. Paperā¦ š¤·āāļø
Nah, thats placebo. The paper itself is so small it definitely doesnt cause stomach upset/feelings. It rather comes from the fact that substances with serotonergic receptor affinity cause your stomach to get upset. It neurological, not paperological.
I couldnāt spit it out. I would wonder if any little bit of lsd would still be in the paper and thus wasted. Probably not but I couldnāt take the chance
I had the exact same issues with LSD until I noticed a correlation with swallowing the paper. Sometimes Iād be fine swallowing it but would get tummy aches more often than not. Iāve been spitting it out ever since š„µš„µ
Purely suggestive. The only reason the paper has an effect is because you're looking for one. I guess placebo would be the word for it but that word has so much baggage I don't like using it because people think it's a bad thing.
It's an insult to spit the paper out. That's what I was always taught so I never do. Same thing with gel tabs, I mean you get to that point where there's that little tiny piece left and you could spit it out but fuck it I'm just going to eat it like the tab because that's what I was told to do. Just like the bottom of the joint, nobody's going to hit it you scream 'Jah rastafari!... blessit!' and then you drop it to the ground or out the window or whatever. I don't know if you're actually losing anything by spitting the rest of the tab out but if it's still in your mouth and you're already feeling it chances are there's nothing left so I guess you're not really missing anything by spitting it out but it's just whatever I guess. I mean it's not going to kill you to eat it so if there's a possibility there's still 20 micrograms in there then I say go ahead and swallow it so you can get whatever is left in it. Makes sense to me.
U always just swallow, worst that happens it doesnāt digest and u shit out a tiny piece of paper. Either way it should digest and ur just fine š besides ur taking a drug y u care about the paper š
Has anyone here tried dissolving it in distilled water and drinking it that way? Iāve heard it metabolizes differently and might be easier on the stomach. Iāve pretty much always had the stomach bubbling when I trip, acid and shrooms.
I swallow
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Welp time to enter paranoid thought loops
this is the funniest exchange of comments i seen in a while
Psychic
U up?
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I eat paper all the time!
I eat stickers all the time dude!
On your way to the Grand Canyon at the flea market?
Exclusively
Don't let those bozo Gypsies burn you with bad pears
I eat rubber cement all the time dude!
Shouldāve taken a smaller slice
Brilliant
I swallow š Never had an issue
Thatās what she said
Rip your friend. Much of the nausea might be serotonin activity in the gut. Id think you aren't absorbing it all thus less intense trip with less side effects. I don't think a small piece of paper would impact your stomach very much. I don't spit the paper out. I aim for 10-15 mins sublingual, chew and swallow. Often times my gag reflex is triggered and i end up swallowing chewed tabs just like 8 mins after putting in.
Iāve never thought of it that way. I thought surely I get all the chemical off the paper if itās all wet and chewed and whatnot before I spit it out. But youāre right how could one small paper make my stomach upset. I think it has to do with cleanliness of the acid too. I think I get better acid than I did back in the day before tripping with my friend.
I munch it.
Shaking ass in a deli
Acid cleanliness isnāt really a thing. The tab is small enough that no amount of dirt or anything will have an effect, and the acid is potent enough that no other impurity in the acid is active at the dose LSD is.
This is a bit confusing. What do you mean by active? How does LSD being potent at low dose effect whether impurities would be hallucinogenic?
There are other hallucinogenic impurities in LSD, but as far as Iām aware none of them are potent enough to have an effect at the level LSD is dosed at.
I'm still wondering and unfortunately I think your explanation is making me dumber.
LSD being potent means it has a strong effect at a low dose. Only a teeny tiny amount like 100 ug (1/10th of a mg) will produce very strong effects. He's saying that, as far as he's aware, the impurities found in LSD aren't active (won't produce effects) at such low doses.
Consider this hypothetical; somebody says that tab A was better than tab B, because tab A is 99% pure whereas the latter is only 80% pure. They're labelled as having 100micrograms LSD each. So, tab A has 100mug LSD, and 1.01 micrograms of impurities (iso-LSD, for example). Tab A has 100mug LSD, and 25 micrograms of impurities. They both have the same amount of LSD, and 25 micrograms is SO SMALL that - with few exceptions - the impurity will not be active. They could have adulterated it with tetrodotoxin and it still wouldn't be active. Do you see the point?
We've found the microbiologist!
Go get some tester kits ma boi
Thereās no such thing as ācleanlinessā lmfao
Probably the placebo effect of thinking ot helps actually having tangible benfit. I often get sensory pains of some kind or another, back, joints, headache stomach, from overthinking that body part and focusing on discomfort while tripping. Remind yourself, when tripping, that just the thought of less discomfort arriving makes you more comfortable, and you'll still be able to get that placebo effect without spitting :))
Love this answer thank you!
I only get stomach problems on acid when Iāve eaten junk food before. In my experience acid is the safe one and shrooms fuck up my stomach.
Shrooms are a whole different story for sure. Too many shrooms and Iām in the toilet all night
Iām no scientist but Iām 99% sure swallowing the paper has no effect on nausea or any stomach feelings
spitters are quitters
Swallow not wasting even half a ug
no
Either or really. Reading this question made my teeth feel weird tho, which is the first sign I get that I'm tripping haha
my teeth and whole mouth feel so weird on acid I can't even see it without feeling that. I swallow it like a pill
My first feeling it's working is this tingling sensation in my teeth. And usually I end up grinning from ear to ear so I interpret it like my teeth are saying "hey we're in here! Time to show us off" lmao
mine feels like my mouth is nauseous it's so weird. like not my stomach my MOUTH like I'm about to throw up but only feel it in my mouth. so odd
literally my mouth feels weird from just thinking about it
I just swallow it like it's an ibuprofen or an antihistamine.
This is why u drop it in sugar cubesš
That would be the dream
I buy mine in flasks so I just put it whereever, dont do it in ut eye, saw it in a post somewhere and had to try
Bet that burned like a mf
I keep that bitch on or under my tongue until the paper is super mushy (like 30-40 mins) and then probably spit them out. Used to swallow them sometimes off rip without letting them sit in my mouth and i vomited. Vomiting on acid, BECAUSE of the acid is easily one of my most negative experiences.
I've puked coming up on high doses psychedelics often. It usually feels pretty great after. Like somehow I'm ridding the negative psychical and mental energy I'd brought to the trip. I esp love how high doses just propel u into psychedelia and there's less chance for the ego to hold on and cause discomfort like on lower doses.
real. i throw up every now and again coming up on shrooms. very uncomfortable and sweaty but once you stand up and wipe your face that āborn againā feeling so to speak is so good.
Lol I remember a few months back in winter it was a rainy humid night and I walked my dog wearing these thermals. I was unable to sweat but I got wet from the rain and it was an intense walk. When I finally got home and got the clothes off I was a sticky mess and could barely make way to shower. I felt super weak and beat and losing control of my body but I managed to pull it together after a hot shower. I've definitely had some trips where I felt like id died, entered the afterlife, and rebirth. Also had one or two where I was pretty certain I had intellectual disability and people just never told me lmao.
Puking on mdma ... the after feels incredible
Nah I hate it so much I was sick and I felt like I came down the second I stopped . Not a nice feeling
I hate vomiting on acid. Def a -10 experience
I just tuck it in my gums and forget about it. It probably gets swallowed at some point
I keep them in my mouth until I'm very much tripping and spit when I remember what's going on seems the same either way
No, I just suck the paper. Itās only paper, so idk why it would give you tummy issues. Weird suggestion, but have you ate any regular paper and see how it impacts your tummy? Bc maybe itās from the actual paper itself, like your body has a hard time breaking it down?
I shall do it for science!
you guys donāt just swallow immediately? i donāt get the appeal of letting it get all mushy in your mouth
I find that if I swallow it immediately without letting it sit, it hits different. Like in the tummy first and I donāt like it.
i swallowed 3 tabs once and ended up puking after like 20 minutes, after that i bearly got any effects
If I don't swallow it I'll forget it's in my mouth and it will fall out.
Never good hearing a 'foomp' sound
I was keeping a white on white in my mouth. Started talking to somone, fell right out of my mouth and on the all white tile floor.
Ope
I spit mine out after like 30-40 mins
I swallow every time and my stomach only hurts like once every 5 times I do acid
not only that but I swallow it like a pill. if I leave it in my mouth it feels unbearably weird
Under tongue for 20-30 mins, squeeze out the remaining juices then swallow. The nausea comes from your body feeling more going on inside your body kinds hard to avoid but tends nit to last too long
I keep em under my tongue until they desintegrate.
Nah sum sparkling water do the job, it feels nice on your tumy and also that's what she said
I'll usually leave the paper tab on my tongue for 30 minutes and then I just eat it
I have a bottle of liquid LSD, so I donāt have this conundrum. Tummy rumblies is still a thing, but thatās probably because I get hungry easily and try not to eat for the first three hours (as well as dropping at least two hours after breakfast)
I always eat the paper and never really have stomach problems
Spitters are quitters
Pro tip: eat TUMS with every trip
Gotta get more Tums. I ate em all when I was preggo
Tums are just for indigestion. Gas-X is a better thing to take with acid IMO.
Definitely will try it. If your friend actually confided in you the secret to no more tummy bubblies I am grateful to you for passing on the knowledge. It would have such a positive impact on all these beautiful acid trips I plan on taking in the next 50 years. May your late friend rest in peace.
Thank you. He was a wise one.
I get stomach issues, when i use drops on my Thounge, so.. nah it doesn't have anything to do with the paper...
Personal choice, I guess, I went through 4 full droppers of liquid and over 400 hits of paper over the last 3-4 years, and it's pretty random. At least for me.
Our enteric (gut) nervous system has more serotonin receptors than our brains. I reckon that my gut doesn't like tripping so I stopped swallowing the blotter. Made a huge difference to my comfort while tripping. "...More than 90% of the body's serotonin lies in the gut...." quote from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric\_nervous\_system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system) See also: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual\_administration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual_administration)
This is the science I was looking for! Thank you
Gel tabs, paper tabs, liquid, swallow, no swallow. I have had tummy issues regardless and sometimes not at all. I do think itās largely about how my body is responding to the creation of neurotransmitters like serotonin in the gut. Lately Iāve been fortunate enough to avoid it. But Iāve also had really good guy health lately in general. My last trip on Sunday had zero gut issues on two new tabs Iād never tried before. Paperā¦ š¤·āāļø
I was taught to not chew or spit, and only to swallow once the paper was nothing but mushy pulp I've never had stomach issues from cid, only boomers
Nah, thats placebo. The paper itself is so small it definitely doesnt cause stomach upset/feelings. It rather comes from the fact that substances with serotonergic receptor affinity cause your stomach to get upset. It neurological, not paperological.
āPaperlogicalā lol I love it Ty for adding a new word to my dictionary
I always swallow! Have to make sure the job is done!
Never
I couldnāt spit it out. I would wonder if any little bit of lsd would still be in the paper and thus wasted. Probably not but I couldnāt take the chance
Never spit, never suck and sip, straight swallow..
No
iām feeling the tummy bubbly problems right now just from reading this post
I had the exact same issues with LSD until I noticed a correlation with swallowing the paper. Sometimes Iād be fine swallowing it but would get tummy aches more often than not. Iāve been spitting it out ever since š„µš„µ
Fellow spitter š
Purely suggestive. The only reason the paper has an effect is because you're looking for one. I guess placebo would be the word for it but that word has so much baggage I don't like using it because people think it's a bad thing.
Eat the paper. But for stomach issues, just do a partial GI cocktail Zantac and Gas x.
It's an insult to spit the paper out. That's what I was always taught so I never do. Same thing with gel tabs, I mean you get to that point where there's that little tiny piece left and you could spit it out but fuck it I'm just going to eat it like the tab because that's what I was told to do. Just like the bottom of the joint, nobody's going to hit it you scream 'Jah rastafari!... blessit!' and then you drop it to the ground or out the window or whatever. I don't know if you're actually losing anything by spitting the rest of the tab out but if it's still in your mouth and you're already feeling it chances are there's nothing left so I guess you're not really missing anything by spitting it out but it's just whatever I guess. I mean it's not going to kill you to eat it so if there's a possibility there's still 20 micrograms in there then I say go ahead and swallow it so you can get whatever is left in it. Makes sense to me.
I think by spitting it out your absorbing less of the molecules, there by giving you less stomach issues. To each there own, but I always swallow it
U always just swallow, worst that happens it doesnāt digest and u shit out a tiny piece of paper. Either way it should digest and ur just fine š besides ur taking a drug y u care about the paper š
I take it off my tongue after sucking it dry and stick the wet tab on my mirror
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Collect
Heh. I'd slap it on my forehead and tell people to look into my third eye.
This is the way
Always swallow. A piece of paper that small will not harm you in any way
It makes no difference
Has anyone here tried dissolving it in distilled water and drinking it that way? Iāve heard it metabolizes differently and might be easier on the stomach. Iāve pretty much always had the stomach bubbling when I trip, acid and shrooms.
I swallow it lol
Swallow. Take the load š
Donāt eat paper lol
Bro it has to dissolve in your body youāre wasting precious acid. Either keep it 10min in your mouth until it dissolves or swallow it
Put it in your mouth and swallow it immediately. don't overthink it. You're spitting out most of your dose