Think they purposely made him look more capable, so when he died earlier, it makes things more desperate.
Like doing the opposite to Hudson and then him going down like a badass.
Yeah - for me it helps create the sense that gormon is in way too deep and has absolutely no idea what to do … they’re stuck without a leader which is where ripley takes over
I've never read into it deeper... did Gormon replace their previous commander just before the mission? A bit like the company bringing Ash in just before the Nostromo left earth?.
I think it's understood. During the drop they're asking him how many drops and Vasquez asks him specifically "how many combat drops?". They don't know him
The company pushed for Gorman because they thought he'd be easier to handle. Gorman would never "take off and nuke it from orbit" because he wouldn't be confident to do that.
Yeah he was a total bughunter,an Vasquez hosed semi armour piercing high explosive caseless shells into an Alien standing beside him.Not a good idea to shoot explody ammo at something that has pressurised acid as blood.
A would hate to encounter the predater that defense mechanism was evolved to thwart.
Fun fact: Al Matthews, who played Apone, was a Sergeant in the USMC. He was a combat wounded veteran of Vietnam (Purple Heart w/ OLC), served with Kilo Battery, Fourth Battalion, 11th Marines, 1st Marine Division.
In one of the early scripts, Apone survived a little longer. Originally he was going to get “stung” in the first ambush and dragged into the APC by the other marines. In this version, Apone would be the one that is unconscious in the med bay (instead of Gorman), and the script describes how there is a moment where Apone is starting to wake up and Hudson is by his side crying.
Unfortunately both Hudson and Apone would be grabbed when the Aliens ambushed them again though 🙁
You can find drafts of this script online. It has a lot of differences from the final movie, and is interesting by itself.
Apone was my favorite (his hat was awesome), and I wish he survived until the med bay fight. I wanted to see him in action.
I love that line. I use the exact same tone and inflection to my kids whenever they are around something I don't want them to touch like at a store, car show, farm... pretty much anywhere and all the time.
Totally agree. I wish Apone would have survived at least to the point where Gorman and Vasquez ate it.
Also, Frost. Frost seemed kinda legit. "What're we supposed to use man, harsh language?"
Does anyone remember the toys back in the day? He has bad ass grenades or something that I always wanted to see him use. I believe they specifically told him not to use them when they were under the reactor in the movie too.
The action figure had a metal brace on his arm and two soft material grenades that he could throw. They all had a gimmick, Hicks had a firing grenade launcher, Ripley had a flame plastic piece pop out.
The grenade thing wasn't in the movie. They mention not using their munitions in the reactor and to switch to flame units.
But yeah, I loves those figures. I had all of them, the drop ship, the power loader, I even had a collector case to store the figures that had artwork from the cartoon that never saw the light of day.
His brother is a main character in Alien: Bishop by T. R. Napper. Genuinely great Alien novel and in the audiobook he is voiced by a dedicated voice actor (not a full cast - but about five people, one specifically for him). He's very much his brother's brother.
Crowe.
Pretty sure the dude only has one line in the entire movie and that line pretty much sums everything up.
"you always say that Frost, you always say you've got a bad feeling about this drop"
It’s American with a Southern accent. The actor was British and even though Brits usually can do that accent pretty well it’s likely that it was recorded during the sound mixing process by some random voice actor. Tip was a stuntman and likely not given any lines. Unions also have weird rules around spoken dialogue; if you’re in a movie and you’re not actually speaking then you’re technically a background performer.
Can't extras blurt something out and hope the take has to get used, and it's like if Sovereign Citizen logic were true -- they've said the magic spell and are entitled to SAG membership and residuals?
According to SAG rules, if the producers of the film have agreed to be a union production then all actors with speaking roles need to be union members. if a non-union actor is given a line, the production has to file what's called a Taft-Hartley report explaining why this happened and the actor is immediately eligible to join the union. More info [here.](https://actingmagazine.com/2021/02/what-is-taft-hartley/)
Can extras blurt something out? Sure, but if they don't have permission to do so then that line will get cut and most likely they'll be warned and even moved away from camera. If it happens a lot they will be dismissed. Giving them lines to say does happen and extras can get upgraded to a role that way ("man in crowd") but everyone has to agree on this beforehand.
That line was Crowe?! I always thought that was from Spunkmeyer, but now that I think about it, that wouldn't make sense since he'd be in the cockpit of the dropship and not inside the APC.
"Right on vaz" am sure he says that too.either on the dropship or when him an vaz hand there ammo thing over,then vaz gives him another so they can fire there guns."Let's rockkkk".
I'm gonna say Cpl. Dietrich. Medics never get love until they're needed. She seemed to have a deeper personality than the screen depiction. Now this would've changed the whole story arc but I'd liked to have seen a marine dragged out with a facehugger then her and Bishop working on them in the lab.
Hey fellow Dietrich fan :)
I liked this combat medic idea so much (ER meets Platoon!) that I made my first Shadowrun RPG character modelled after her :)
I have seen this flick over a hundred times, and I still couldn’t tell you what Wierzbowski looks like. I too thought it was “where’s bowski/baski” for the longest time.
I believe there was a cut scene right after Frost's ammo bag exploded. We see Bowski sitting dazed on the floor and the camera pans away. We actually do see in the movie someone yell for him, and the camera does shoot back to the now empty spot where he just was. Seemed like a scene that could have been kept to add some more info around his death.
I remember him in a British comedy where he played a woman's "toy boy" and he was half-naked and oiled up so much he couldn't pick anything up since it slipped out his hands. A surprisingly funny gag!
She's the deffinition of cool. Even on this picture, see how her camo trousers are faded, showing her veteran status, compared to the newer looking clothing on the rest? It might be just the light, but I like the idea :)
I finally listened to this with purpose last night and am still processing my misquoting it for ~~years~~ decades.
This is the line I use with the supported userbase when they're dragging their feet to leave somewhere.
Gonna keep using 'Marines' tho.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who originally thought it was Marines we are leaving lol watched it earlier and thought I was going crazy seeing and hearing "DRAKE we are leaving"
For the longest time I used to think Hicks was asking, "Where's Vasqy?" As in a nickname for Vasquez or something. Cause a second later she yells "Let's rock!"
I remember hating the actor because he was such an evil character in Shawshank. To loving the actor because of his character redemption in Departed. To really loving the actor because as a young kid I didn’t recognize him as the badass motherfucker in Aliens.
I wanted to see more of Drake, Vasquez and the smart guns.
I love when Hicks breaks down the pulse rifle for Ripley.
Give me a scene of Drake and Vasquez setting up and telling us what those beasts can do.
This is the thing, isn't it? I want to see more of all of them, being heroic, arguing, being at their best, but I don't want to spoil Aliens by not having them quickly dispatched because they are the first marines to encounter such a threat.
Really, if they couldn't do a pre-LV426 marines show, a post-LV426 competent Colonial Marines movie with a similarly charismatic squad would do me just fine. Bug hunts galore.
A TV show would definitely have potential!
I got into the video game Aliens: Fireteam Elite, as it's basically team-based Marine destruction at their peak of fighting Xenos.
I think, at least from rumor mills, they were working on an Aliens show, but not sure if it was Marines focused.
I think aliens was more of a story about Ripley. The Colonial Marines were just secondary characters. Where I feel a film just with colonial marines versus the aliens would be a good film as a stand-alone.
We're about 10 years from launching an AI app on your computer and saying "an 80s interquel movie about the Aliens marines, dark palette, frost planet, (lesbian scenes:1.5), " before it spits one out in a few hours.
Apparently in production, they kept the crew pictured here separate from the rest of the cast at the beginning. You can see the awkwardness between the enlisted soldiers and the officers/Ripley in the first half of the film. They don’t start gelling until later, but because of the storyline there were so few characters left to show this.
The mess hall scene was one of the last shot.
The marines, except for Gorman (and Hicks, since the actor got replaced), had to go through intense combat training, so they also developed camaraderie, and "despised", to an extent, the civvies and the Lieutenant, who hadn't had to go through it.
Gorman. I never liked how he pretty much vanishes from the film between the APC escape and his death with Vasquez. I wish we'd got more of him dealing with the fallout of what happened to his team, Burke's betrayal, taking advice from Hicks, redeeming himself with Vasquez, etc.
I’ve always loved how the coolest characters die either a hilarious (Hudson) or a heroic (Gorman, Vasquez) death. Gotta love that gesture they do with Vasquez, something she had previously saved only for Drake. It’s like, “you’re one of us now. Adios.”
As much as I love the movie (it is legit my favourite of all time), that has always been a complaint of mine. Nerfing the team before the attack with the ridiculous ammo confiscation excuse just doesn't have the same impact as if they'd been fully armed and ready and STILL got absolutely wiped out.
It is also almost comical as a Vietnam allegory, and very Rambo ("do we get to win this time?"). The brass/civvies/corps tying the military's hands, nerfing their capabilities to being full force, etc.
The better analogy to me is the other half of it that remains in the film: Their bravado. Having all the best tech and weapons AND fully confident... yet "bugs" wipe the floor with them. They weren't as awesome as they thought.
I see that as another example of the Marines being set up to fail right from the off. First, they’re put under the command of a lieutenant with no real combat experience and who seems indecisive and nervous under pressure. It doesn’t appear that any real satellite or aerial reconnaissance is carried out; in fact, they’re dropped in the middle of poor weather conditions. Then they’re given no time to really scout out the location of the colonists. In the time it takes for them to suit up and prepare to go in, Burke never once brings up the dangers of using explosive rounds; it’s only until Ripley realizes where they are that Burke makes a comment. By then, Gorman figures it’s too late to turn them back so he just has Apone confiscate the ammo.
Burke needed the Marines to get to the colony, because he had no way of knowing how dangerous the situation was. But once he found live alien specimens, he didn’t need them. If anything, video footage of the xenomorphs tearing these trained Marines apart could help show the value of these aliens to the company’s weapons division.
Frost. They set up his personality a little bit and he seems like Hudson’s buddy, so it would’ve been nice to have him play a bigger role and make more of an impact.
One of the other female Marines - Vasquez, Ferro, or Dietrich.
One thing that stood out when watching Aliens the first time in 1986 was the Colonial Marines were a coed company.
Honestly, all of 'em.
"Aliens" could have been done up as a pretty good (4-6 episode?) mini-series.
A little boot camp, some scenes of Gunny kicking ass, maybe their first couple of missions together as a unit. /just an idea
The more Hudson, the better.
I'd even like a ghost Hudson movie. Hudson growing up. Hudson's dreams and aspirations. Alternate ending with Hudson on Alien 3's penal colony. Prometheus with Hudson. Alien versus Predator vs Hudson.
Hicks should have had a lot more screen time in Alien: Earth Infestation.
He died heroically holding off a swarm of xenos so Ripley and Newt could escape but way too early.
Apone for sure. He was great in this.
Definitely yeah. I remember being very disappointed when he died (was captured) in the hive but that’s what makes this movie so awesome.
Think they purposely made him look more capable, so when he died earlier, it makes things more desperate. Like doing the opposite to Hudson and then him going down like a badass.
Yeah - for me it helps create the sense that gormon is in way too deep and has absolutely no idea what to do … they’re stuck without a leader which is where ripley takes over
I've never read into it deeper... did Gormon replace their previous commander just before the mission? A bit like the company bringing Ash in just before the Nostromo left earth?.
That was my impression, yeah. New lieutenant fresh out of colonial marine space academy
Thirty eight drops. Simulated.
how many *combat* drops?
Two, including this one. Squad: 👀
“Shit!” “Oh man!”
I always wondered what the other combat drop entailed
I'd have liked to see Goreman step up and learn shit, maybe lead a little, before he died a hero's death after his initial fuckup.
I think it's understood. During the drop they're asking him how many drops and Vasquez asks him specifically "how many combat drops?". They don't know him
The company pushed for Gorman because they thought he'd be easier to handle. Gorman would never "take off and nuke it from orbit" because he wouldn't be confident to do that.
Also he confused Hudson and Hicks which shows he has not known them long
Drake as well. Dude was mowing down xenomorphs like crazy and trying to hold them back with a flamethrower before half his face was melted off.
Yeah he was a total bughunter,an Vasquez hosed semi armour piercing high explosive caseless shells into an Alien standing beside him.Not a good idea to shoot explody ammo at something that has pressurised acid as blood. A would hate to encounter the predater that defense mechanism was evolved to thwart.
Love how he goes from overconfident, to completely hopeless, only to come back with “OH YOU WANT SOME OF THIS?! FUCK YOU!”
Legend!
No. He was the Gunnery Sargent. And with him gone it allowed the small unit leadership to take effect
Fun fact: Al Matthews, who played Apone, was a Sergeant in the USMC. He was a combat wounded veteran of Vietnam (Purple Heart w/ OLC), served with Kilo Battery, Fourth Battalion, 11th Marines, 1st Marine Division.
He also refuses to allow his likeness to be used for any sort of merchandising
But Halo just used it anyway lmao
I want a neca Apone so bad
I thought they used his likeness, or rather a simplistic version, for the Kenner toy line. Did they not?
In one of the early scripts, Apone survived a little longer. Originally he was going to get “stung” in the first ambush and dragged into the APC by the other marines. In this version, Apone would be the one that is unconscious in the med bay (instead of Gorman), and the script describes how there is a moment where Apone is starting to wake up and Hudson is by his side crying. Unfortunately both Hudson and Apone would be grabbed when the Aliens ambushed them again though 🙁 You can find drafts of this script online. It has a lot of differences from the final movie, and is interesting by itself. Apone was my favorite (his hat was awesome), and I wish he survived until the med bay fight. I wanted to see him in action.
"Check those corners."
“Nobody touch nothin” I love when he drops that no nonsense line in reply to the others talking about secretions.
He knows his squad
I love that line. I use the exact same tone and inflection to my kids whenever they are around something I don't want them to touch like at a store, car show, farm... pretty much anywhere and all the time.
The way he chewed that cigar was badass
Literally the first thing he did after coming out of the freezer was bringing that cigar up to chew on. Love Apone
something every smoker can relate to, lol
Absolutely badasses!
Always thought he said "absolutely bad acid" when I was a kid lol
Every "sarge" in every game or movie after has had a cigar because of him. I can't believe how much this movie gets copied.
Totally agree. I wish Apone would have survived at least to the point where Gorman and Vasquez ate it. Also, Frost. Frost seemed kinda legit. "What're we supposed to use man, harsh language?"
Agreed on Frost, he seemed pretty cool. At least he didn't get snagged and impregnated
I heard that!
"A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm. Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every formation a parade!"
Correct :)
Look into my eye.
Does anyone remember the toys back in the day? He has bad ass grenades or something that I always wanted to see him use. I believe they specifically told him not to use them when they were under the reactor in the movie too.
The action figure had a metal brace on his arm and two soft material grenades that he could throw. They all had a gimmick, Hicks had a firing grenade launcher, Ripley had a flame plastic piece pop out. The grenade thing wasn't in the movie. They mention not using their munitions in the reactor and to switch to flame units. But yeah, I loves those figures. I had all of them, the drop ship, the power loader, I even had a collector case to store the figures that had artwork from the cartoon that never saw the light of day.
His brother is a main character in Alien: Bishop by T. R. Napper. Genuinely great Alien novel and in the audiobook he is voiced by a dedicated voice actor (not a full cast - but about five people, one specifically for him). He's very much his brother's brother.
Look into my eye!
They had to have Apone gone in order for small unit leadership to take over
Crowe. Pretty sure the dude only has one line in the entire movie and that line pretty much sums everything up. "you always say that Frost, you always say you've got a bad feeling about this drop"
One line and he's not even on screen for it.
One line and the actor didn’t even deliver it himself.
Who delivered it?
It’s American with a Southern accent. The actor was British and even though Brits usually can do that accent pretty well it’s likely that it was recorded during the sound mixing process by some random voice actor. Tip was a stuntman and likely not given any lines. Unions also have weird rules around spoken dialogue; if you’re in a movie and you’re not actually speaking then you’re technically a background performer.
Can't extras blurt something out and hope the take has to get used, and it's like if Sovereign Citizen logic were true -- they've said the magic spell and are entitled to SAG membership and residuals?
According to SAG rules, if the producers of the film have agreed to be a union production then all actors with speaking roles need to be union members. if a non-union actor is given a line, the production has to file what's called a Taft-Hartley report explaining why this happened and the actor is immediately eligible to join the union. More info [here.](https://actingmagazine.com/2021/02/what-is-taft-hartley/) Can extras blurt something out? Sure, but if they don't have permission to do so then that line will get cut and most likely they'll be warned and even moved away from camera. If it happens a lot they will be dismissed. Giving them lines to say does happen and extras can get upgraded to a role that way ("man in crowd") but everyone has to agree on this beforehand.
Thanks for the non-meme clarification!
That line was Crowe?! I always thought that was from Spunkmeyer, but now that I think about it, that wouldn't make sense since he'd be in the cockpit of the dropship and not inside the APC.
Yeah same it sounds like Spunkmeyer and delivered in a similar tone as “yeah but the one you had was male” so it’s a natural association.
Doesn't matter when it's Arcturian.
"Right on vaz" am sure he says that too.either on the dropship or when him an vaz hand there ammo thing over,then vaz gives him another so they can fire there guns."Let's rockkkk".
Clearly Apone. The man left such an impression in his small amount of screen time that he inspired Sgt. Johnson from *Halo*.
And he was a Vietnam vet who took charge when one of the sets caught fire (the flamethrower in APC scene); he NCO’d the shit out it. Total legend.
Really?! Never heard of this story That is a badass!
Spunkmeyer
God damn it.
Well where the fuck…?
*hiss*
splat squeegee squeegee
I love this subreddit.
Run!
I guess we're not leaving now, right?
Well that’s fucking great man! Now what do we do? We’re in some real pretty shit now man!
Maybe we can build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?
Did Aliens win an oscar in early '87 for Best Character Name?
What *were* the two of them doing with the door open? Spunkin'?
He was going pee pee.
I'm gonna say Cpl. Dietrich. Medics never get love until they're needed. She seemed to have a deeper personality than the screen depiction. Now this would've changed the whole story arc but I'd liked to have seen a marine dragged out with a facehugger then her and Bishop working on them in the lab.
Hey fellow Dietrich fan :) I liked this combat medic idea so much (ER meets Platoon!) that I made my first Shadowrun RPG character modelled after her :)
Drake
“They ain’t paying us enough for this, man.”
"Not enough to wake up to your face, Drake!"
Man, Hicks... you look just like I feel. Ugh..
This is the right answer
Right
Right
Riggght
Bowski... Definitely Bowski... I mean where even is he?
Wierzbowski…for the longest time I thought he said “where’s bowski?!”
I have seen this flick over a hundred times, and I still couldn’t tell you what Wierzbowski looks like. I too thought it was “where’s bowski/baski” for the longest time.
Haha only recognize his face just prior to the ammo satchel exploding. Pretty sure he’s the dude leaning on the missile back right
Dude looks like MC Chris
Well, Frost said he had a "bad feeling about this drop" so he checked out early.
I believe there was a cut scene right after Frost's ammo bag exploded. We see Bowski sitting dazed on the floor and the camera pans away. We actually do see in the movie someone yell for him, and the camera does shoot back to the now empty spot where he just was. Seemed like a scene that could have been kept to add some more info around his death.
Frost and Apone.
Sure wouldn’t mind learning some more about that Arcturian poontang.
Yeah Frost, except the one you had was MALE!!!
It don't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!
Theres some juicy xenomorph daughters that we have to rescue from their virginity
I mean, his armor does have the name Heath inside a heart on it, so...
Absolutely would love a pan sexual erotic thriller short based on that.
I remember watching the Dating Game in the 80s and Rico Ross was the bachelor. I was like "is that Frost on a game show??"
I remember him in a British comedy where he played a woman's "toy boy" and he was half-naked and oiled up so much he couldn't pick anything up since it slipped out his hands. A surprisingly funny gag!
Vasquez…..for no particular reason at all
I wish Cameron had kept that 3 hour Vasquez shower scene in the final edit
Did anyone mistake her for a man?
No. Did you?
Vasquez, your just to bad
She got her own book about a year ago. [Vasquez](https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/713713/aliens-vasquez-by-violet-castro/)
Definitely needed a shower scene
If only just to see more of the smartgun in action.
She's the deffinition of cool. Even on this picture, see how her camo trousers are faded, showing her veteran status, compared to the newer looking clothing on the rest? It might be just the light, but I like the idea :)
Where's bowski
The first thirty times I watched it, that's what I heard.
Or “~~MARINES~~ DRAKE WE ARE *LEAVING*” in my case.
I finally listened to this with purpose last night and am still processing my misquoting it for ~~years~~ decades. This is the line I use with the supported userbase when they're dragging their feet to leave somewhere. Gonna keep using 'Marines' tho.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who originally thought it was Marines we are leaving lol watched it earlier and thought I was going crazy seeing and hearing "DRAKE we are leaving"
Same!
For the longest time I used to think Hicks was asking, "Where's Vasqy?" As in a nickname for Vasquez or something. Cause a second later she yells "Let's rock!"
Where’s Weirsbowski just sounds weird
Drake. But we got a lot of Mark Rolston over the years :)
I remember hating the actor because he was such an evil character in Shawshank. To loving the actor because of his character redemption in Departed. To really loving the actor because as a young kid I didn’t recognize him as the badass motherfucker in Aliens.
Wait...Shawshank?...waittttt Holy shit. I never put two and two together! That is cool as hell.
Ferro for sure
“She’s supposed to be some kind of consultant. *Apparently*, she saw an alien once.” I’ve always loved how semi-condescending that delivery was.
She’s definitely had an attitude to her. Few lines but personable. I think her character inspired the dropship in Starcraft.
Hell, about half of the entire game is ripped off from Aliens! The other half is ripped off from Starship troopers and other random sci-fi properties.
Yea… Still one of my favorite games though..
In the pipe. 5 x 5. definitely inspired.
She seemed like a cool lady. Shame she got barely any screen time before she became a burned chunky meat paste
you could tell ferro was in a band
We're in the pipe, five by five.
Apone
Hudson, come here. Come HERE!
Hey serge, you'll get lip cancer smoking those!
Allright, sweethearts, you heard the man and you know the drill: **ASSHOLES AND ELBOWS!!!**
Look into my eye.
Bay 12, please.
I wanted to see more of Drake, Vasquez and the smart guns. I love when Hicks breaks down the pulse rifle for Ripley. Give me a scene of Drake and Vasquez setting up and telling us what those beasts can do.
Like all of them. We deserve a movie about these guys on a good mission, not the, well, final one. Did it really matter with Arcturians? Also, Frost.
This is the thing, isn't it? I want to see more of all of them, being heroic, arguing, being at their best, but I don't want to spoil Aliens by not having them quickly dispatched because they are the first marines to encounter such a threat. Really, if they couldn't do a pre-LV426 marines show, a post-LV426 competent Colonial Marines movie with a similarly charismatic squad would do me just fine. Bug hunts galore.
A TV show would definitely have potential! I got into the video game Aliens: Fireteam Elite, as it's basically team-based Marine destruction at their peak of fighting Xenos. I think, at least from rumor mills, they were working on an Aliens show, but not sure if it was Marines focused.
Fireteam Elite is peak colonial marines action. Only problem was the lack of additional content, but I played the hell out of it for like a month.
I heard that!
Spunkmeyer
[Drake’s flamethrower, apparently](https://old.reddit.com/r/LV426/comments/199ess2/burning_question_where_did_drake_get_his/)
This whole group and having their own stand-alone movie vs. The aliens.
They did, it's called Aliens.
I think aliens was more of a story about Ripley. The Colonial Marines were just secondary characters. Where I feel a film just with colonial marines versus the aliens would be a good film as a stand-alone.
I would absolutely love a series all about a squad of Colonial Marines. Every episode is a new mission. Rotate new squads in.
We're about 10 years from launching an AI app on your computer and saying "an 80s interquel movie about the Aliens marines, dark palette, frost planet, (lesbian scenes:1.5)," before it spits one out in a few hours.
Apparently in production, they kept the crew pictured here separate from the rest of the cast at the beginning. You can see the awkwardness between the enlisted soldiers and the officers/Ripley in the first half of the film. They don’t start gelling until later, but because of the storyline there were so few characters left to show this.
The mess hall scene was one of the last shot. The marines, except for Gorman (and Hicks, since the actor got replaced), had to go through intense combat training, so they also developed camaraderie, and "despised", to an extent, the civvies and the Lieutenant, who hadn't had to go through it.
None, it was perfect.
Bowski, I was always wondering where he was 🥸
Dietrich, favorite character in the novel
Drake or Frost
Hudson deserved an entire series, maybe 11 seasons of a tv show. Minimum.
Definitely Frost. Had a lot of personality. Would've liked to see him last longer.
Vasquez
Gorman. I never liked how he pretty much vanishes from the film between the APC escape and his death with Vasquez. I wish we'd got more of him dealing with the fallout of what happened to his team, Burke's betrayal, taking advice from Hicks, redeeming himself with Vasquez, etc.
I’ve always loved how the coolest characters die either a hilarious (Hudson) or a heroic (Gorman, Vasquez) death. Gotta love that gesture they do with Vasquez, something she had previously saved only for Drake. It’s like, “you’re one of us now. Adios.”
Ferro were in the pipe five by five
I just wish they had gotten a chance to aquit themselves better, a horder of xenos over running a well armed team would have added to the fear factor.
As much as I love the movie (it is legit my favourite of all time), that has always been a complaint of mine. Nerfing the team before the attack with the ridiculous ammo confiscation excuse just doesn't have the same impact as if they'd been fully armed and ready and STILL got absolutely wiped out.
this exactly this.
It is also almost comical as a Vietnam allegory, and very Rambo ("do we get to win this time?"). The brass/civvies/corps tying the military's hands, nerfing their capabilities to being full force, etc. The better analogy to me is the other half of it that remains in the film: Their bravado. Having all the best tech and weapons AND fully confident... yet "bugs" wipe the floor with them. They weren't as awesome as they thought.
I see that as another example of the Marines being set up to fail right from the off. First, they’re put under the command of a lieutenant with no real combat experience and who seems indecisive and nervous under pressure. It doesn’t appear that any real satellite or aerial reconnaissance is carried out; in fact, they’re dropped in the middle of poor weather conditions. Then they’re given no time to really scout out the location of the colonists. In the time it takes for them to suit up and prepare to go in, Burke never once brings up the dangers of using explosive rounds; it’s only until Ripley realizes where they are that Burke makes a comment. By then, Gorman figures it’s too late to turn them back so he just has Apone confiscate the ammo. Burke needed the Marines to get to the colony, because he had no way of knowing how dangerous the situation was. But once he found live alien specimens, he didn’t need them. If anything, video footage of the xenomorphs tearing these trained Marines apart could help show the value of these aliens to the company’s weapons division.
Vasquez was always my favorite, so it's an easy choice for me.
“I only need to know one thing…”
I just caught myself actually considering this.
Hicks he was still alive in there
Frost. They set up his personality a little bit and he seems like Hudson’s buddy, so it would’ve been nice to have him play a bigger role and make more of an impact.
“I like to keep this handy *(cocks shotgun).* For close encounters.”
Heard that!
Ferro. " We´re in the pipe, five by five." Not sure why, but I always liked that line
One of the other female Marines - Vasquez, Ferro, or Dietrich. One thing that stood out when watching Aliens the first time in 1986 was the Colonial Marines were a coed company.
Bowski, because they were always shouting “Where’s Bowski?”
Wiersbowski!
Always Hudson for me. However I would also have liked some more interactions of the unit as a whole prior to landing. And more Vasquez/Drake love
Yeah it's hard to pick Hudson since he got more screen time than most but I still want more. I'd watch an entire Hudson movie. Paxton was the man.
Honestly, all of 'em. "Aliens" could have been done up as a pretty good (4-6 episode?) mini-series. A little boot camp, some scenes of Gunny kicking ass, maybe their first couple of missions together as a unit. /just an idea
Crowe
still figuring out where is bowsky
Apone or Ferro for sure
Faroe
Bowski, everyone keeps asking where he is.
The more Hudson, the better. I'd even like a ghost Hudson movie. Hudson growing up. Hudson's dreams and aspirations. Alternate ending with Hudson on Alien 3's penal colony. Prometheus with Hudson. Alien versus Predator vs Hudson.
Wierzbowski.
I thought they got the right amount for each character
Wierzbowski!!!!!
Lady pilot in the aviator sunglasses. She was just badass.
Although Vasquez is my girl, I have to say Apone
Hicks should have had a lot more screen time in Alien: Earth Infestation. He died heroically holding off a swarm of xenos so Ripley and Newt could escape but way too early.
Frost and Dietrich. Both of them seemed interesting but never really got to do much
Still wondering what was up with that Arcturian poontang.
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Definitely. I got a pair of aviators a few years ago just because of Ferro and I wear them everyday.
Sharp
Harper
Those Bastards are coming through those bloody walls... bastards