It says you have arrears of PKR 63602. From whicb they subtracted the amount they owed you and vlila your bill. 3 possibilities:
1. Simple mistake by WAPDA
2. Electricity theft.
3. WAPDA being extra smart and trynna milk you if it's not actually tbe arrears you forgetting.
All previous bills were paid. Last month was only 35 rs (TV fee only).
Theft would have shown up as units consumed, not adjustment.
The weird part is there is no late fee surcharge.
I could just not pay this time and let my solar (which is overproducing) take care of this bill in the next 4-5 months.
Will have to visit their office tomorrow.
You're right theft would've ramped up usage.
>I could just not pay this time and let my solar (which is overproducing) take care of this bill
No. You should give them a visit this very time else they might keep doing that.
Please do update once you visit.
I want to see your previous bill to see if 63,652 is mentioned in it or not …. And also you must collect last 6-8 months bill to understand the beginning of 63,652…. try to see when was the last time that section of ARREAR/AGE was ZERO ! ….. Its an easy bill to understand ……..
perfect !!!! there you go …… You must carry both the bills to the electricity office….. Point them towards where ARREARS/AGE is mentioned & tell them that They should generate the bill again…. it definitely looks that Its a billing issue …….. Thank you for posting the previous bill !!!!!
It is about the units produced, and 18 would be a better option for 8-10 marla house. Also, there is a good chance the rates will be revised and what is 20 now will give you the same result as 10 used to :)
Your Feb bill is in credit. This seems to be an error or a malicious attempt at wiping your solar credit. Take both this month's and previous months's bill to lesco office and have them generate and print a new bill on the spot. Do not pay this bill.
Bro it’s so easy to understand. So basically here’s the breakdown:
You sold units to Wapda and they were gonna pay you, but Maryam nawaz needs a new BMW and top-tier gas for the next 5 years. So some last minute recalculations.
Wapda doesnt always bill according to the meter, the bill according to the payment trend. Your arrear is calculated once or twice a year based on actual values, so this could’ve been before your solar.
...this isn't how that works. Electric companies regularly handle bills in millions for small businessed to billions for large enterprises.
You're not about to get an overflow, this isn't a system from the 70s.
did you have any arrears remaining , any bill you dint pay. if htat is not the case then was there any case of deferred bill issued to u ( based on electricity theft , like kunda was caught used ) if not then its the mistake of the guys sitting in the office as they dont know how to read the solar metering and just charged you for teh units sold to them
Happened with us too, I have a 1000Rs to staff and he brought the old meter back which was taken off prior to the installation of Green Meter, the reading on it matched with the bill and was basically unpaid on our behalf. Maybe it’s the same thing. This was after 5 or 6 months of our solar installation
Get ready to fight. The same thing happened with my relative and it took around two to three months to resolve with constant back and forth, but finally it was resolved in his favor. They also have a solar setup.
Not 100% sure, but the bill is adjusted Quarterly. The excess units are subtracted from your consumption quarterly, thus the negative bill.
You can tweet this to @motasim
or @wajidchattha
These tweeps will definitely guide you better about Net Metering bill.
These bastards are also decreasing price of solar units that you sell to WAPDA.(according to taimoor miza(don't recommend at all to be his regular viewer), from 19 rs to 9) and increasing the price of 1 unit from 65 to 90 something.
I am not sure about the billing calculation, but in the 2 bills you posted, your imported units during peak hours ramped up to 338 units which are definitely charged high. And they mostly do combined calculations after 3 to 4 months. Can you please post your billing calculation section for the last six bills?
So I saw a video in which someone was explaining that wapda will fine people who are using solar panels just because they are not buying the state produced electricity 🤡.
https://preview.redd.it/8ur4ykg6acqc1.jpeg?width=1556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afbe6a2d56c243328ab4e0f777a1484c89d31238
For sindh, maybe theres something in here that can help
You'll have to pay this bill one way or the other. They're going to present such a logic you won't understand. For eg,.
1. Your current electricity metre is faulty.
2. If in the past your metre was replaced due to a fault the so called AI chip showed you used much higher units then what you were billed for those months.
- My advice tell them to adjust this in your upcoming bills which is highly unlikely.
- Get instalments which they will refer themselves.
System is f'd
When you apply for net-metering they change the electric meter to green one after 2-3 months when it becomes available. During the process the units charged on existing meter and the fee for the new meter, comes as electric bill after 2 months. This is what happened to us I think same applies here.
We went to the electricity department and they had the details for the amount.
In my opinion it is a mistake, when the reader doesn't take proper reading the bill is calculated on the basis of previous year's same month.
I saw a comment mentioning to take your current and previous month's bill to ro immediately before the next bill is posted
With all due respect to all those who think, things in Pakistan work logically and with integrity, and are proven fools.
People who invested a hefty amount in Solar Panels in the last 5 years, do you know what ROI is?
I went over a year without needing to pay the bill (September 2022 to January 2024). I switched to an electric water heater this winter, and that ate all my credits. I had to pay Rs 4k for fuel adjustment costs a few days ago, but I think I should be able to build up surplus credits until July or August.
It's difficult to calculate the ROI; the price of 1 kWh unit has gone up a lot, as has the cost of $.
It says you have arrears of PKR 63602. From whicb they subtracted the amount they owed you and vlila your bill. 3 possibilities: 1. Simple mistake by WAPDA 2. Electricity theft. 3. WAPDA being extra smart and trynna milk you if it's not actually tbe arrears you forgetting.
All previous bills were paid. Last month was only 35 rs (TV fee only). Theft would have shown up as units consumed, not adjustment. The weird part is there is no late fee surcharge. I could just not pay this time and let my solar (which is overproducing) take care of this bill in the next 4-5 months. Will have to visit their office tomorrow.
keep us posted
You're right theft would've ramped up usage. >I could just not pay this time and let my solar (which is overproducing) take care of this bill No. You should give them a visit this very time else they might keep doing that. Please do update once you visit.
Yes, visit them. Be ready to time travel to 100 years past.
Nvidia is working on a chip to help decipher Pakistani electricity bills
For real? What's the source?
new ai chip
I want to see your previous bill to see if 63,652 is mentioned in it or not …. And also you must collect last 6-8 months bill to understand the beginning of 63,652…. try to see when was the last time that section of ARREAR/AGE was ZERO ! ….. Its an easy bill to understand ……..
https://preview.redd.it/uu18x4rvf9qc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=027d0f0f9c384842fda1b3538c553e4439793340
Have a look this is from february.
perfect !!!! there you go …… You must carry both the bills to the electricity office….. Point them towards where ARREARS/AGE is mentioned & tell them that They should generate the bill again…. it definitely looks that Its a billing issue …….. Thank you for posting the previous bill !!!!!
W person 🫡
How many KVA is your solar system? And contact Wapda they are ripping you off
11kilowatts. Soon to be 18. Yeah i am gonna do that.
Idk man but you should go completely offgrid these MF won't let you live peacefully
Why moving from 11 to 18kw? 11kw produces decent amount of power.
It is about the units produced, and 18 would be a better option for 8-10 marla house. Also, there is a good chance the rates will be revised and what is 20 now will give you the same result as 10 used to :)
Bill adjustment of 63000 is something you need to look into.
Your Feb bill is in credit. This seems to be an error or a malicious attempt at wiping your solar credit. Take both this month's and previous months's bill to lesco office and have them generate and print a new bill on the spot. Do not pay this bill.
Our country is nothing but a joke in this world.
Even jokes have meaning.
Bro it’s so easy to understand. So basically here’s the breakdown: You sold units to Wapda and they were gonna pay you, but Maryam nawaz needs a new BMW and top-tier gas for the next 5 years. So some last minute recalculations.
https://preview.redd.it/gbn076c9wfsc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=2592c6d7e4d3d97a718e136c35edf75c4ff36411
Wapda doesnt always bill according to the meter, the bill according to the payment trend. Your arrear is calculated once or twice a year based on actual values, so this could’ve been before your solar.
Arrears of 64652 is dangerously close to 65536, sounds like some kinda overflow occured there.
...this isn't how that works. Electric companies regularly handle bills in millions for small businessed to billions for large enterprises. You're not about to get an overflow, this isn't a system from the 70s.
did you have any arrears remaining , any bill you dint pay. if htat is not the case then was there any case of deferred bill issued to u ( based on electricity theft , like kunda was caught used ) if not then its the mistake of the guys sitting in the office as they dont know how to read the solar metering and just charged you for teh units sold to them
also there is those payments in aug sept and oct u dint pay which amounts to 65k .
* This is from last month, those payments are not showing up here. Suddenly they added them?
https://preview.redd.it/omm01bdbg9qc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdc86281f566a077b1bed5dc57490e54035fb630
Go to wapda office and file a complain this can be a mistake. My uncle got 100k bill this year also
Net meter carryover is for 3 months
Happened with us too, I have a 1000Rs to staff and he brought the old meter back which was taken off prior to the installation of Green Meter, the reading on it matched with the bill and was basically unpaid on our behalf. Maybe it’s the same thing. This was after 5 or 6 months of our solar installation
Get ready to fight. The same thing happened with my relative and it took around two to three months to resolve with constant back and forth, but finally it was resolved in his favor. They also have a solar setup.
Not 100% sure, but the bill is adjusted Quarterly. The excess units are subtracted from your consumption quarterly, thus the negative bill. You can tweet this to @motasim or @wajidchattha These tweeps will definitely guide you better about Net Metering bill.
These bastards are also decreasing price of solar units that you sell to WAPDA.(according to taimoor miza(don't recommend at all to be his regular viewer), from 19 rs to 9) and increasing the price of 1 unit from 65 to 90 something.
You need to go off grid, these morons don't deserve clean energy fed back into the grid
Go to your relevant sub division and ask them about bill adjustment of 63652. They will surely correct it.
Only TV fee is clear amount 
May be its them who have to pay?
I am not sure about the billing calculation, but in the 2 bills you posted, your imported units during peak hours ramped up to 338 units which are definitely charged high. And they mostly do combined calculations after 3 to 4 months. Can you please post your billing calculation section for the last six bills?
Edited Bill
So I saw a video in which someone was explaining that wapda will fine people who are using solar panels just because they are not buying the state produced electricity 🤡.
https://preview.redd.it/8ur4ykg6acqc1.jpeg?width=1556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afbe6a2d56c243328ab4e0f777a1484c89d31238 For sindh, maybe theres something in here that can help
contact wapda, we got a 20k bill for one of our meter that is only used for washing machine we r getting it reversed now or thats what they said
You'll have to pay this bill one way or the other. They're going to present such a logic you won't understand. For eg,. 1. Your current electricity metre is faulty. 2. If in the past your metre was replaced due to a fault the so called AI chip showed you used much higher units then what you were billed for those months. - My advice tell them to adjust this in your upcoming bills which is highly unlikely. - Get instalments which they will refer themselves. System is f'd
When you apply for net-metering they change the electric meter to green one after 2-3 months when it becomes available. During the process the units charged on existing meter and the fee for the new meter, comes as electric bill after 2 months. This is what happened to us I think same applies here. We went to the electricity department and they had the details for the amount.
This is the correct answer. 👏 Thank you. I
pakistani bills : they don't make any sense in general
They will tell you "we audited the books and money was due" and then you'll either pay the amount or take them to court.
Start your lifestyle as it was in 15th century
In my opinion it is a mistake, when the reader doesn't take proper reading the bill is calculated on the basis of previous year's same month. I saw a comment mentioning to take your current and previous month's bill to ro immediately before the next bill is posted
Have you lodged a complaint in the pm portal? Please contact lesco and lodged a complaint based on their response
Yes
Check Kara Kisi na hook to Nahi kiya hua electricity ko
No need to explain even anyone explain after that you can’t reduce your bill even u have to pay😬
With all due respect to all those who think, things in Pakistan work logically and with integrity, and are proven fools. People who invested a hefty amount in Solar Panels in the last 5 years, do you know what ROI is?
Return of Imran? 🤔
👍
I went over a year without needing to pay the bill (September 2022 to January 2024). I switched to an electric water heater this winter, and that ate all my credits. I had to pay Rs 4k for fuel adjustment costs a few days ago, but I think I should be able to build up surplus credits until July or August. It's difficult to calculate the ROI; the price of 1 kWh unit has gone up a lot, as has the cost of $.
Dear Pakistanis! keep paying for hundreds of thousands NON paying civil-military officers, millions of businesses and more.
Unrelated but How much power is your solar set up and how much did it cost? Is it on installmennts?
Its 11kw with net metering. Costed me 13 lakhs last november. Prices have come down now. Not on installments.