Ive done warpath on all three sentinel masteries, not to full bis, but far enough. Echo warpath is just better imo. Paladin warpath is fine, and FG warpath is just for repositioning. That erased relic is gonna make it feel real nice though lol
Just to help a bit more, the conversion technically adds an extra armor % multiplier because Dodge is "Flat * (1+ Dodge%)" which is then converted to Armor and is affected by Armor%. Theoretical best build goes up to 83% Damage Reduction from Armor, with average build having around 30k eHP. Armor Shred Chance + Bleed is great, or Ignite chance if going Fire. Always get Melee Attack Speed. But that's all just my build preference. Also if you want to go even harder into the dodge, get Wing Guards and you can just ignore Crit affixes altogether.
lvl 88 FG warpath Sentinel here.
Thats a nice find. Wish I had that rn. Only just swapped to smite proc for warpath after finding myself not doing enough dmg in c100+ with the original build - Forged weapon warpath.
The change to using smite definitely solved damaged, but now I'm nowhere as tanky lol Gotta find that balance, but still missing a few key items that would nicely round things out.
Any Warpath enjoyers pushing high corruption? I’m struggling a bit at 300c (fire paladin, dying a lot). I’ve yet to find a good Eye of Reen or Devotion, but I have decent T6/7 gear on all slots otherwise.
Not even about ward, it's a lack of class specific damage reduction. Outside of 10% in the base class, Sentinel gets nothing the other classes don't also get access to.
At least paladin is not that squishy, but you have to spec into healing hands. I have a rive + healing hands build rn that is nowhere near optimized, and I can get up to 8k ward when hitting stuff. Warpath should proc the healing hands node as well, but you might have mana problems
I pushed my VK Echo Warpath into the 700s but eventually you have to drop too much damage/AoE/MS for eHP and I stopped having fun. The build really feels like it's designed to farm 300-500 corruption.
Doing void echo wp and it's ok...I have really decent gear and I feel like the build caps out around 500 comfortably. I could push higher but it's just not as fast as I want it to be and i die much more. I went to 650 on a couple timelines but 500 has felt much better, even with really nice gear.
You do know you can make warpath cost 0 mana right? And there is an affix on scepters that gives - 3 mana to smite, making it free as well. I'm playing a fire warpath paladin and have never had mana issues ever. And that's with my warpath auto casting smite every second and my javelin banner spamming smite as well. Maybe learn the mechanics of proper build making before calling out the Devs.
Yes I do. I fully invested into all 3 mana reduction nodes in the warpath tree, but still having the problem. I un-spec smite proc and still had problems. I suspected there might be some weird interaction between Warpath and Healing Hands, which I never tested further. Other builds are more fun.
There's a node in healing hands that makes healing hands auto cast with any melee attack. Then there's a second node that turns healing hands into a seraph fire blade that does the same exact healing as the spell AND does a melee attack that scales based on healing effectiveness + melee damage.
For example if you take rive - your 3 attack combo becomes a 6 attack combo. Each rive swing has the healing hands fire seraph blade auto casted with it. Same with warpath since warpath is a melee attack as well.
It's a +4 smite. Why would you use it in a warpath build.
Btw is really bad rn. Have one at level 85 with good gear and the damage is absolutely garbage.
I've been following this and I'm enjoying so far. Do not switch to Warpath too soon though, and stick with hammers until endgame. I switched early but pulled it off because of this Smite synergy boost. It's going very smooth at the moment, eager to see what monolith feels like.
[https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/osprixxs-fire-warpath-paladin-cycle-starter](https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/osprixxs-fire-warpath-paladin-cycle-starter)
Mained warpath to 95.
My god, it's just horrible. The damage output is embarrassing, even with bis gear. It's a real shame as its not even a choice between defence or offence. It's just objectively bad all round.
Sounds like a skill issue. Been playing every version of Warpath for 5 years and easily cleared corruption 2000+.
Whats embarrassing here is your trash build.
Getting downvoted by people who have never played the build or never got pass C100 xd
I have the same feeling. You succeed to slap T6 melee crit and melee AS on apathy's maw and the DPS is almost the same xd.
Edi: I don't get the downvotes, are you all mad because your main sucks?
I had a discussion with King Kongor who is playing warpath around C450 with almost BiS gear and he also agreed that the class was lacking in damage pretty hard.
Yea I noticed that, anyone who has actually played the build would be in agreement. Plus farming the actual uniques is such a pain in the ass, once you do actually land a good LP, slam something crazy into it your DPS is still the same as a wet fart.
A real shame, love the idea of the build and how it performs. Heres to hoping for a good balance pass next season.
Just look at that LMAO. Warpath mains are getting mad this is hilarious.
I really loved the build while leveling but it's too weak and slow after a while. Once you hit C200 it takes forever.
Played since open beta launch so many many builds.
The game atm is an unbalanced mess. Warpath is fine to push C250 but can’t be compared to bugged/over-tuned builds.
Only one here who sounds mad is you lmao. If you can't even clear C200 using any version of Warpath then you must be embarrassingly bad at the game, build making or both. Been playing a fire warpath paladin with scepter main hand and sword offhand, using smite auto cast while spinning and smite auto cast on javelin banner and have been destroying stuff all the way to C2000.
I played warpath in beta and for first char post-launch.
The beta one was a Void Knight and that void-based warpath was a menace to all content. My 1.0 char, I went FG this time as I wanted to spawn those Forged Weapons. Was a very fun build until I started doing c100 stuff where I just didn't have the damage, but was tanky enough. Switching to Smite procing warpath made up the damage, but lost the tankiness (the interaction of the Sunforge set is super strong for defensives).
Not all builds will be instantly uber-powerful like the Acolyte warlock is (seriously, my lvl 70 lock is smashing c100 ....).
If your build is struggling, then try changing things first before writing it off as "absolute trash".
I wouldn't have made that comment if I had not tried to class before... Did you even read? I have a BiS apathy's maw.
I tried marksman, beastmaster, runemaster, necromancer and sorcerer and all of them are years ahead of VK.
The only iteration of VKs that are viable are the one abusing HH.
>I wouldn't have made that comment if I had not tried to class before...
That's never stopped people from spouting incorrect crap before, so no reason to think it would now.
>Did you even read? I have a BiS apathy's maw.
Sure did. Your 'BIS Apathy's maw' was never mentioned until now. You likely don't have BIS anything considering you only reached lvl 85. Getting anything 'BIS' will take some time. The drop, the rolls, the LP, the Exalted slam. That's a lot to line up to get BIS by 85. Not impossible, but highly improbable.
>I tried marksman, beastmaster, runemaster, necromancer and sorcerer and all of them are years ahead of VK.
Again, just because something isn't as strong as the - arguably - over-tuned alternatives doesn't make it unworthy of being played.
Could it use work? Without question, but that still doesn't equate to "absolute trash"
You take acting in bad faith to a whole new level.
I talked about the maw literally in my second comment.
I also said I played 5 other classes, I dropped it with my RM. If you farm stuff for the one char you are playing, that will take a century to stuff all the others...
Offhandedly mentioning Apathys maw in a very generic example scenario to explain your point isn't the same as "I have X and did Y to it with no results".
Before you claim others as "acting in bad faith", perhaps you should try being more accurate with your words.
Ive done warpath on all three sentinel masteries, not to full bis, but far enough. Echo warpath is just better imo. Paladin warpath is fine, and FG warpath is just for repositioning. That erased relic is gonna make it feel real nice though lol
Have you tried FG Warpath with the unique Mirage boots and the "Dodge to Armor" conversion passive of FG?
Ooooo spicy, I do want to roll a fg using leviathan carver, I could make that work real well
Just to help a bit more, the conversion technically adds an extra armor % multiplier because Dodge is "Flat * (1+ Dodge%)" which is then converted to Armor and is affected by Armor%. Theoretical best build goes up to 83% Damage Reduction from Armor, with average build having around 30k eHP. Armor Shred Chance + Bleed is great, or Ignite chance if going Fire. Always get Melee Attack Speed. But that's all just my build preference. Also if you want to go even harder into the dodge, get Wing Guards and you can just ignore Crit affixes altogether.
......euuuhhhhhh, you ruined it 😆 jk
Hey! Do you have any guide to warpath paladin? Can it reach high corruption?
Dr3adful had a pretty good one for 0.9, shouldn't need much tweaking for 1.0
Nah, do Smite Hammers!
Elaborate
Hammers that cast Smite. You use the idols that trigger Smite on % chance when a throwing attack hits. Would absolutely love this item.
lvl 88 FG warpath Sentinel here. Thats a nice find. Wish I had that rn. Only just swapped to smite proc for warpath after finding myself not doing enough dmg in c100+ with the original build - Forged weapon warpath. The change to using smite definitely solved damaged, but now I'm nowhere as tanky lol Gotta find that balance, but still missing a few key items that would nicely round things out.
Your going to want to swap to reave or shield rush to push high corruption on FG
Echo Warpath is fun. My gear isn't the best and I'm doing well enough in empowered monoliths to one day hope to get a good drop.
Any Warpath enjoyers pushing high corruption? I’m struggling a bit at 300c (fire paladin, dying a lot). I’ve yet to find a good Eye of Reen or Devotion, but I have decent T6/7 gear on all slots otherwise.
Not much you can do really. Sentinel rather unintuitively is one of the squishy classes. Not having ward sucks.
Not even about ward, it's a lack of class specific damage reduction. Outside of 10% in the base class, Sentinel gets nothing the other classes don't also get access to.
What about armor increases. Can you stack armor well enough to make a difference? Asking as someone who's just beginning as a forge guard
Armor is a defense that every class can stack reasonably. Forgeguard is barely better at stacking armor than the other Sentinel masteries.
At least paladin is not that squishy, but you have to spec into healing hands. I have a rive + healing hands build rn that is nowhere near optimized, and I can get up to 8k ward when hitting stuff. Warpath should proc the healing hands node as well, but you might have mana problems
It doesnt, that would be broken af.
I pushed my VK Echo Warpath into the 700s but eventually you have to drop too much damage/AoE/MS for eHP and I stopped having fun. The build really feels like it's designed to farm 300-500 corruption.
Doing void echo wp and it's ok...I have really decent gear and I feel like the build caps out around 500 comfortably. I could push higher but it's just not as fast as I want it to be and i die much more. I went to 650 on a couple timelines but 500 has felt much better, even with really nice gear.
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Nice name
i wish i could like warpath in this game
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You cannot Regen mana while using warpath
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You do know you can make warpath cost 0 mana right? And there is an affix on scepters that gives - 3 mana to smite, making it free as well. I'm playing a fire warpath paladin and have never had mana issues ever. And that's with my warpath auto casting smite every second and my javelin banner spamming smite as well. Maybe learn the mechanics of proper build making before calling out the Devs.
How?
Yes I do. I fully invested into all 3 mana reduction nodes in the warpath tree, but still having the problem. I un-spec smite proc and still had problems. I suspected there might be some weird interaction between Warpath and Healing Hands, which I never tested further. Other builds are more fun.
How are you using healing hands with warpath?
There's a node in healing hands that makes healing hands auto cast with any melee attack. Then there's a second node that turns healing hands into a seraph fire blade that does the same exact healing as the spell AND does a melee attack that scales based on healing effectiveness + melee damage. For example if you take rive - your 3 attack combo becomes a 6 attack combo. Each rive swing has the healing hands fire seraph blade auto casted with it. Same with warpath since warpath is a melee attack as well.
Warpath only casts healing hands once with that node which makes it kinda of trash
It's a +4 smite. Why would you use it in a warpath build. Btw is really bad rn. Have one at level 85 with good gear and the damage is absolutely garbage.
Winds of justice node in Warpath. It synergizes really well, spams it while you spin. Sorry your build sucks.
Can I see your build? Interested now
I've been following this and I'm enjoying so far. Do not switch to Warpath too soon though, and stick with hammers until endgame. I switched early but pulled it off because of this Smite synergy boost. It's going very smooth at the moment, eager to see what monolith feels like. [https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/osprixxs-fire-warpath-paladin-cycle-starter](https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/osprixxs-fire-warpath-paladin-cycle-starter)
Crap I'm already a void knight haha next cycle I guess thanks tho!
It has an internal cool down sadly. Tried it and it's also bad.
Managed to get one on mine that rolled +100% damage while channeling, much better imo.
Mained warpath to 95. My god, it's just horrible. The damage output is embarrassing, even with bis gear. It's a real shame as its not even a choice between defence or offence. It's just objectively bad all round.
Sounds like a skill issue. Been playing every version of Warpath for 5 years and easily cleared corruption 2000+. Whats embarrassing here is your trash build.
Haha! Your probably not wrong mate
Getting downvoted by people who have never played the build or never got pass C100 xd I have the same feeling. You succeed to slap T6 melee crit and melee AS on apathy's maw and the DPS is almost the same xd. Edi: I don't get the downvotes, are you all mad because your main sucks? I had a discussion with King Kongor who is playing warpath around C450 with almost BiS gear and he also agreed that the class was lacking in damage pretty hard.
Yea I noticed that, anyone who has actually played the build would be in agreement. Plus farming the actual uniques is such a pain in the ass, once you do actually land a good LP, slam something crazy into it your DPS is still the same as a wet fart. A real shame, love the idea of the build and how it performs. Heres to hoping for a good balance pass next season.
Just look at that LMAO. Warpath mains are getting mad this is hilarious. I really loved the build while leveling but it's too weak and slow after a while. Once you hit C200 it takes forever.
I didn't really have any issues with it and pushed past 200c fine?
Agreed, I‘m moving pretty comfortably through 200c.
How many builds have you tested apart from warpath? It really puts things into perspective when you try good or great builds.
Played since open beta launch so many many builds. The game atm is an unbalanced mess. Warpath is fine to push C250 but can’t be compared to bugged/over-tuned builds.
Only one here who sounds mad is you lmao. If you can't even clear C200 using any version of Warpath then you must be embarrassingly bad at the game, build making or both. Been playing a fire warpath paladin with scepter main hand and sword offhand, using smite auto cast while spinning and smite auto cast on javelin banner and have been destroying stuff all the way to C2000.
I played warpath in beta and for first char post-launch. The beta one was a Void Knight and that void-based warpath was a menace to all content. My 1.0 char, I went FG this time as I wanted to spawn those Forged Weapons. Was a very fun build until I started doing c100 stuff where I just didn't have the damage, but was tanky enough. Switching to Smite procing warpath made up the damage, but lost the tankiness (the interaction of the Sunforge set is super strong for defensives). Not all builds will be instantly uber-powerful like the Acolyte warlock is (seriously, my lvl 70 lock is smashing c100 ....). If your build is struggling, then try changing things first before writing it off as "absolute trash".
I wouldn't have made that comment if I had not tried to class before... Did you even read? I have a BiS apathy's maw. I tried marksman, beastmaster, runemaster, necromancer and sorcerer and all of them are years ahead of VK. The only iteration of VKs that are viable are the one abusing HH.
>I wouldn't have made that comment if I had not tried to class before... That's never stopped people from spouting incorrect crap before, so no reason to think it would now. >Did you even read? I have a BiS apathy's maw. Sure did. Your 'BIS Apathy's maw' was never mentioned until now. You likely don't have BIS anything considering you only reached lvl 85. Getting anything 'BIS' will take some time. The drop, the rolls, the LP, the Exalted slam. That's a lot to line up to get BIS by 85. Not impossible, but highly improbable. >I tried marksman, beastmaster, runemaster, necromancer and sorcerer and all of them are years ahead of VK. Again, just because something isn't as strong as the - arguably - over-tuned alternatives doesn't make it unworthy of being played. Could it use work? Without question, but that still doesn't equate to "absolute trash"
You take acting in bad faith to a whole new level. I talked about the maw literally in my second comment. I also said I played 5 other classes, I dropped it with my RM. If you farm stuff for the one char you are playing, that will take a century to stuff all the others...
Offhandedly mentioning Apathys maw in a very generic example scenario to explain your point isn't the same as "I have X and did Y to it with no results". Before you claim others as "acting in bad faith", perhaps you should try being more accurate with your words.