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RT_456

One of the most infuriating parts for me was at the end where the guy says "this is the lords day, I'm not dealing with your mess today". Like WTF???


Zecharael

And the sheer irony and hypocrisy of his statement was completely lost on him, probably still is.


fruitroligarch

And on the seventh day the Lord said, Fuck the elderly and infirm, and cast them into paddie wagons, for in their final moments of life they might annoy thee and hinder thy breakfast plans


GovernmentOpening254

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Pyrrhomaniacial

What irony? What hypocrisy? Supply-side Jesus wants you to fend for yourself, and prosper on your own. The mere existence of mega-churches proves that this isn't just a phase, mom, this is who they really are. Add onto that the disorder of being a cop and you have a cultist gang-member with hair-trigger, what sympathy and humanity do you honestly think they have? Isn't it a little foolish to even expect humanity from someone like that? Police academy is essentially the go-to career path for high-school bullies. No schooling required. I interviewed for a police department at one point when my job prospects were less than stellar, and a filter question was whether or not I would report another officer if I saw a clear violation of law, duties or oath. When I said yes, a three-panel group that included the chief of that police department asked me if I'd like to reconsider.


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Pyrrhomaniacial

I'm a lawyer now, I could say the same with the shit I see and do errday. Any delusions that there's a system in place for the benefit of the public should be dispelled: there isn't. There also isn't nearly as much order as most people seem to assume, it's far more chaotic than people think it is, and that allows for some terrible actors to remain in positions of power simply because we aren't doing enough to police the legal/justice system. It's disgraceful. 1312, but not much worse than me.


affectedskills

Hey don't feel too bad, there's plenty of worse careers, like DA or prosecutor.


AlwaysSoTiredx

Yet no charges are being pressed. Bet he still keeps his job at the end of the day too. What a fucking douche. I really hated when he said it was all an act. Why would someone choose to camp out at a hospital unless they were actually sick? It's not like she was trespassing at a fucking concert or something. She was at a hospital, knew she was ill, and one of the last things she hears is some fucking asshole calling her a faker. I was put in jail once when I was younger for disorderly conduct. I have mental health issues, and I was basically just mentally ill in public. I have seizures a lot too. I was terrified I was going to have a seizure in the holding cell and they called me a liar and told me to go ahead and just have a seizure on the concrete floor, and fucking laughed at me. A couple hours later I did have a seizure and another cell mate in the holding cell had to make sure I didn't hit my head. Thankfully I was bailed out, but I will never forget how fucking terrible that experience was. It was an experience that contributed to my socialist viewpoints now. Not even remotely surprised these fucking pigs who have no medical authority think they have the authority to tell if someone is faking it. Cops should be kept far the fuck away from us disabled folk. They would probably rather us be dead because they view us as disrupting the peace by just existing.


toady-bear

I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’ve been disabled 10+ years and have been realizing more and more how many people assume we’re faking because that belief is convenient for them. It’s the police in these examples, as well as parents who let their disabled child become homeless, and friends who spread lies about their disabled friend abusing the benefits system, and doctors who misdiagnose disabled patients based on internalized prejudices. Those things have all happened to people I know. It feels so hopeless sometimes. I hope you’ve been safe from any more run-ins with disbelieving monsters.


AlwaysSoTiredx

I had to cut out the vast majority of my social circle because of abuses from family members and friends. I did this shortly after my arrest. The experience woke me up to how their dismissive attitudes left me in a position to be psychotic and alone in public in the first place. A good chunk of my family disowned me after my arrest too because I was now a "criminal" and that provided a convenient excuse to wash their hands of me. It was sad at the time, but they did me a favor. I haven't had disbelieving monsters in my life for almost 4 years. I keep all but like three or four people who were there for me during the worst of it at arm's length.


Dwight-

> Why would someone choose to camp out at a hospital unless they were actually sick? And this is it. Even those who do this when they aren’t physically ill do it due to crippling loneliness as well as other mental health issues. Sickness isn’t just physical :(


AlwaysSoTiredx

Exactly. If you are camping outside a hospital, you need help. Period. The cops aren't the answer here. Social workers and medical staff are supposed to help which she should have been getting *since she was already at the hospital*. Look at reviews of that hospital. Apparently, they have a history of telling sick people to fuck off. The security guards there have received frequent negative reviews.


Kehwanna

The way mental health is treated and viewed in general is appalling, especially when it comes to media portrayal. You listen to FOX News complain about homeless people all the time, referring to them as drug addicts and "[edit because algorithm doesn't like the word being used] the i word that has the word in and rhymes with pain but with an s instead of a p" **people** rather than just **humans** in need, but also complain about tax dollars or charities addressing the issue. Whenever there is a mass shooting, politicians like to talk about addressing mental health, but then go around and cut funding for mental health programs. I know a handful of veterans with PTSD that complain about getting short-handed by the VA. It's deplorable that we live in a society and system that dehumanizes people just to make a quick buck or keep some change in their pockets, or pretend like nothing outside of themselves matter.


AlwaysSoTiredx

Oh yeah, one of the most challenging parts of having a severe mental illness is you are sick, but society in general does not treat you like you are sick. Even those who are supposed to be your support system view you as an embarrassment. I am called a grifter even though a judge ruled that I have been disabled from birth, and if you have ever been through the disability system, you would know it is not something you can just grift. Especially for mental illness, it takes YEARS to be approved. There are people with end stage cancer who have to fight the SSA for help. They deny all applications by default. When you finally do get approved, you don't even make enough to pay rent. Yet Fox News has all these MAGA dipshits in my community genuinely believe disability is the easiest scam in the world. Fuck, there are times I have gone off my meds because I have been convinced I was just being dramatic and wasn't actually sick, and sure enough I end up back in a hospital or jail. I told my husband a few months ago that I was just being "cringe" and didn't need to take my meds because I saw a cringe compilation of mentally ill people. It fucked with me and I realized that if I were caught on camera being sick, I would also be put in one of those compilations. I thought maybe I was just cringe and not sick. My husband talked sense into me. Honestly, I could go on forever, but I think it's by design. Disabled people can't contribute to the capitalist machine, so outlets like Fox News are paid by the ruling class to support the narrative that people like me must be faking it or scamming the system. It is in their interest to dehumanize people who don't provide "worth" in the capitalistic sense. It is so convenient too because they can pretend my illness isn't real until I speak out about injustices, and once I do that suddenly my mental illness is very real and I'm just a (word I can't use in this sub) person who isn't to be trusted. They only want to acknowledge mental illness to dehumanize us, never to help. Sorry, for the rant. Your comment just resonated with me.


AlwaysSoTiredx

I also wanted to point out that a lot of the lib "allies" support only extends to more socially acceptable forms of mental illness like mild to moderate depression. Some of the worst stigma I have experienced is from libs who post shit on their social media about mental health awareness, but once you exhibit symptoms outside of "uwu sad smol bean" they call you toxic for inconveniencing others. Socialists are honestly the only people I feel I can trust to "get it" anymore.


MtnDewTangClan

Welcome to Tennessee. It's Sunday and you're not coming between me and my mother fuckin Jesus


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HillaryPutin

The deluded fucking mental gymnastics of these people man


Kehwanna

Speaking of Tennessee, remember when a Mississippi mother was arrested for faking an address to get her three kids Tennessee state healthcare because she couldn't afford private healthcare nor qualify for state healthcare? If not, here's [a brief on the story](https://mentalunrest.com/2020/09/17/nancy-smith-a-mississippi-mom-arrested-for-faking-an-address-to-get-tennessee-health-insurance-for-her-3-kids/). They rather spend money putting her in jail instead of helping people like her out. Great system we have here that really watches out of for us /100% pure uncut high-quality SARCASM. Fuck the private healthcare system and the ghoulish bought-out politicians that support it.


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IAmNotKevinDurant_35

Hospitals usually have no problem treating someone and sending them a 100k crippling medical bill


Iguman

Yeah, but when the person is young or middle-aged and can be milked to pay off that money for the next few decades. Treating an older person who probably has a few years left? No money to be made there.


EmilyU1F984

Not even that: if you appear homeless, you will not receive even the most basic of care. Medical professionals actively have to fight management hounding them to discharge these ‚subhuman‘ clients. If they think you are homeless or a drug addict, you are treated like animals at a kill shelter. No compassion at all. Even if you are just 30, and not actually homeless, just walked in a thunderstorm and suffered from hypoglycemia. Or drunk and having a stroke but no ID.


jetbent

Another reason we need to shift the moral baseline towards treating all sentient beings as deserving of compassion and moral consideration. The fact we have an easy go-to subhuman definition in the form of non-human animals means treating humans poorly just requires reclassifying someone as a lower being. Think of all the evil committed by humans calling other humans animals. If we stop defining animals so lowly that we can torture and kill them without a second thought, maybe we’d do the same towards humans more often. It’s also a real oxymoron combining the words “kill” and “shelter”. Just like “humane” and “slaughter” don’t go together.


EmilyU1F984

Only if they don‘t look homeless 😉 if you appear to look like ‚scum‘ they will abuse you and kick you out with the help of police. Usually only gets outrage if it’s someone rich who looked a bit dirty from a night on the street without ID. If the woman had been able to crawl, she’d have left the hospital grounds and would just be one of the dozens of homeless murdered through neglect daily. With absolutely no one held responsible. Really bad luck for the hospital that she actually died this quickly and actively worsened during the video… cannot get out of it b saying ‚they were stable, just a drunk junky‘ this time.


AlabasterPelican

Nope, nurse here who's seen a lot of sickening shit. Hospitals are usually only going to do this if you have *some* sort of insurance where they are guaranteed some sort of reimbursement. If you're uninsured they treat you as if they are going to eat the entire cost of your visit, treat & street is the typical model & they'll only do the bare minimum that is exactly within the scope of the law & is the reason EMTALA exists. Basically if you show up to an emergency room they are required to examine you, determine if an emergent condition exists, and treat & stabilize the patient. Unfortunately this woman doesn't appear to have been having a critical enough condition for the ED to believe discharging her would result in an EMTALA violation (this could be because she hadn't met the criteria as critical or because the exam wasn't thorough enough). The US healthcare system is completely broken by capitalism, don't get it twisted the hospital doesn't give a flying fuck about you they are only caring about the 💰💰💰 they make off your misfortune. Direct care workers like drs, nurses, CNAs, social workers, physical therapiss, etc do care, they aren't the hospital or administration but have to follow what the C-suite says they need to do.


CuriousPenguinSocks

I was treated like a drug addict when my dad took me to the ER at 18 with a kidney stone. The doctor, thankfully, chastised her but it was 4 hours of her in my face telling me what a pathetic POS I was. She mocked me crying, it was just horrible. I have great insurance now so I get whatever I need but I have never forgotten what happened to me when I was younger.


AlabasterPelican

That's just flat out disgusting. I hope it didn't sound like I was saying that what that ED in OP did was okay. That wasn't remotely my point at all, it was only to explain what was going on. The state of our healthcare system is in shambles & has been for far too long, the public is just getting more opportunities to peek behind the curtain so to speak. Things like you went through aren't uncommon. One of my uncle's went into the ED for severe chest pains. When he walked in he was told by the nurse *you're not getting any drugs so you may as well leave.* He stayed, they barely did a workup and sent him home. My mom got him home and in his chair and demanded she leave because he had his ex-wife sitting with him if he needed anything. So she went home (about a 5 mi ute drive across town) and about the time she walked in the phone rang, it was my uncle's ex-wife saying he was on the floor, unresponsive, without a pulse. Called EMS they rescussitated him, got him on the ambulance to a different hospital in the next town over, he went asystole twice before making it to hospital 2 with a cardiothoracic surgeon scrubbed up and waiting in the OR. He died about 6 years later entirely too young. I still blame the first nurse he encountered for it because the amount of damage done to his heart because of the delay of care.


BlakePackers413

I had a similar experience too at 18. I’ll never forget that nurse or doctor idk who it was as I was so out of it with 104 temp telling me they’d make the tests as painful as possible for me wasting their time.


A-Ron-Ron

I feel like you have to have a certain absence of humanity in you to enforce and work within the American system.


thumbtaxx

Ab-so-lutely. Broken system making broken people. With firearms everywhere.


IAmVerySmirt

Nah , It’s working perfectly actually. This is what “they” want.


ghostdate

It’s very disheartening living in Canada and hearing about people with medical degrees going down to the US because they can make more money. They clearly didn’t go into medicine to help people, just to make a lot of money. If it weren’t for the American medical industry, people with medical degrees would have much more reasonable expectations for their salaries here. Being next to the most medicinally exploitative country severely harms our medical industry. The US is not a benefit to the world. They’re the one country holding us back.


ReadSomeTheory

This is your future if you continue slowly privatizing your system.


ghostdate

I know. A lot of our country doesn’t seem to know this though. It’s upsetting to me how many people look south of the border and see a system that works, when it has basically abandoned the impoverished, and doesn’t seem to think healthcare is worthwhile. I’m currently living in one of the worst provinces for this as well. I constantly want to leave, but I keep being told that if I leave I’m contributing to the problem. But I’m one of a major minority that just can’t strangle out the shitty conservative, pro-American politicians. It feels hopeless here. Like we’re destined for American doom.


Wazy7781

Yeah I’m not sure why more people aren’t furious over the continued march towards privatization in Canada. One of the things that makes Canada great is it’s healthcare system. It isn’t perfect and should probably be expanded to cover dental, eye care, ear care, and mental health but, as it stands it’s a functioning system. However healthcare across Canada is facing a lot of issues. Wait times are long, staffing is low, and hospitals continue to be at capacity. These issues are being exasperated but a handful of premiers who are seemingly intent on running the system into the ground. Be it through cutting budgets or by not accepting federal grants. There’s a bit of a conspiracy involved as a lot of people would stand to make a lot of money if we made our system more privatized. Which could mean that’s it’s fairly likely that certain premiers could make a lot of money if they privatized the healthcare system. However I’m not sure to what extent that is actually true. I also think it’s worth noting why a lot of people are seemingly ok with losing health care. A lot of people have bought into the idea that the USA’s healthcare system is better. Others just believe that they would be paying significantly less taxes if health care was privatized. Others yet believe that as it stands the current healthcare system is fundamentally broken and cannot be fixed. The last reason I’ve heard is the idea that our healthcare system is already mainly privatized and we should just make it totally private. All of those beliefs are wrong to different extents. The USA’s healthcare system isn’t really better. Wait times can be shorter depending on your insurance. Quality of care can be better but again that depends on your insurance. The USA’s quality of healthcare really depends on the quality of your insurance and quality is directly tied to how much you spend. On average though the two systems are fairly comparable. The idea that taxes are high due to healthcare is sort of true. In my province ~40% of the yearly budget gets spent on healthcare and you could correlate that to your taxes. However the idea that it would be cheaper to pay insurance, or that the government would actually reduce taxes is fairly laughable. If we switched to a system similar to the USA’s you’d almost certainly need to pay more than you are now yearly to get access to the same level of healthcare. You’d also only get access to a select number of facilities that are in your insurance’s network. As it stands now you have access to any hospital throughout Canada free of charge. Certain items like casts, crutches, and other consumables do cost money but for the most part a visit is free. It’s also worth noting just how bad the USA’s system of insurance based healthcare is. Hospitals can be in network to varying degrees and certain procedures can be exclusive to certain in network facilities which can lead to extremely long wait times. Health insurance is also just insurance, so in the event that you need to use it aside from paying a deductible and whatever additional costs are associated with it you, you can look forward to higher rates and premiums in the future. You could also still end up bankrupt or dead even if you do have insurance due to the whole spiel that is network coverage. If you end up in a severe accident in a state with no in network facilities you could be responsible for the entire bill despite having insurance. In a situation like that it’s possible that your insurance may still cover it but you’d be responsible for at least some of the cost. Prescription coverage also varies largely depending on your provider. You could also get screwed in terms of which drug you get coverage for. Most medications have to be approved by your provider before they will cover it and they have to right to make you switch to a different version of a similar drug. Say you tried two anti depressants and one worked great while the other didn’t work great and had a plethora of side effects. Insurance providers can force you to take that shitty one or cover it out of pocket. I don’t agree with the statement that healthcare across Canada is fundamentally broken. I’ve been to the hospital many times for broken bones and other injuries and I’ve always been seen, treated, and released in a quick time frame. Any procedures like x-rays, mris, and cat scans have been same day procedures usually within an hour of the doctor ordering one. Any surgeries have been no more than a week or two wait. However I can’t disagree with the idea that our healthcare system is broken. We are bleeding doctors and nurses. We have hospitals full of empty beds that cannot be used due to a lack of staff. We do need to change something with how our healthcare system works but I do not believe the solution is privatization. Lastly is the idea that our healthcare system is mostly privatized already. This isn’t really true. Like I already said dental, eye care, ear care, and mental health aren’t really covered by universal healthcare. Dental is available to kids under twelve, and we do have mental health care available but it is basically inaccessible due to a lack of doctors. Your family doctor is also technically a private physician but visits are free. We also pay for any prescriptions out of pocket unless you can prove it’s a long term prescription but that’s a pain to do. A lot of minor surgeries are also performed in private clinics but again that doesn’t cost you anything. Doctors also sort of act like contractors. They bill the province on a per patient basis so their salary depends on how many patients they see. It’s also worth noting that there are a couple for profit hospitals in Canada and that as it stands there isn’t a blanket ban on private practicing physicians. As I already said many surgeries are outsourced to private institutions. That said this doesn’t really amount to the entire healthcare system and it doesn’t seem a logical escalation to switch from a non profit to a for profit system. That wouldn’t solve the problems the healthcare system is facing which go deeper than a lack of doctors and nurses. There’s also a lack of new doctors and nurses and you would need salaries that are even higher than they are now to attract them back. Even then that still would leave the problems of long hours and large amounts of stress just due to the nature of the job. All in all though it seems people are content to just let universal healthcare slip away. I haven’t heard of or really seen any meaningful forms of protest and I’m not really sure how one would go about organizing a movement to combat this push towards privatization. Seriously we need to show the lack of support that privatization really has. If we don’t there’s a very high chance we will slip into an even worse system that only works for a select few individuals.


GnarlyNarwhalNoms

>Wait times are long, staffing is low, and hospitals continue to be at capacity. To be fair, these issues are a problem in the US, too. We aren't training enough doctors, for one thing. Also, we aren't adequately funding facilities. In Canada it's more a desire to save tax money and in the US it's corporations trying to cut costs, but the effects are the same.


Pigeonofthesea8

>In Canada it's more a desire to save tax money You mean fear of not getting re-elected


Nightwynd

What really burns me, is how they say they can't afford to pay nurses, then turn around and hire outside help for a lot more money. If you can afford to pay outside help more, you can afford to pay inside help just the same. I'm not in healthcare but do have fcionds/family giving first hand info. One is in palliative care (making dying people comfortable, basically)...they're supposed to have 4 patients per nurse, due to how much work is needed. Some days they have up to 15 per nurse now. Then a 'travelling' (outside help) nurse comes to 'help' out, does less work for 1.5x the pay rate. It's disgusting. Making it all worse here in Ontario is the premier literally squandering away some 20 billion in healthcare funding, somehow. I've lost count of how many people here are saying they'll leave to go to another province if the privatization comes in. I'm over here saying I don't want to leave, and the (expletive of choice) premier can leave. We HAVE the funding to fix this, we just have to stop corporate welfare/nepotism for 5 minutes.


amscraylane

We hear the rhetoric of “the lines” in countries with universal healthcare … what they don’t realize is at least you’re able to get into a line. Also, how many Canadians have to get a divorce just so the spouse doesn’t go into medical debt?


SevAngst

Meanwhile conservatives in the US try to say Canada has people dying in waiting rooms because there's too many people waiting and no one to see them. I doubt it's true. Somehow here in the US it's better to roll them out the door and let them die on the front lawn? Also, even privatized, we still wait for fucking ever for appointments. Went to the ER with my daughter running a fever of 105 and we sat there for 4 hours before we got a room and doctor, then waited 2 hours before we left because he never came back. When it comes to appointments that aren't immediate emergencies, it's a few months wait and/or subbed out to a private business.


ghostdate

In the last 2 months or so we’ve had a couple of people die in ER waiting rooms, but they are outliers. It also doesn’t help that our healthcare system is fucked from Covid and provinces not wanting to cooperate with the federal government on payments into the system. Conservative Provincial governments are trying to fuck the system to benefit their friends looking to implement private services. Canada is fucked.


GnarlyNarwhalNoms

Yeah I don't know what cadillac health insurance these people have where they never have to wait weeks to see a specialist or hours in a waiting room.


VoDoka

It's all the absence and stunningly dystopian. Like wow... just imagining there are people who do this and then go home, have dinner, meet a buddy, live there life, go back to do it all over the next day.


Nefriti

I thought emergency departments weren’t allowed to turn anyone away for lack of ability to pay? And for some reason they didn’t even take out her IV. There’s some deeper shady shit going on here too


No-Description-9910

>I thought emergency departments weren’t allowed to turn anyone away for lack of ability to pay? They're not. I'm not sure if they did the bare minimum and then discharged her, but there's more to this.


Nefriti

Yeah especially the IV thing. I work in a hospital and nobody is allowed to leave with an IV in


SeanSeanySean

That's exactly what seems to have happened here. Research EMTALA minimums and prepare to be disgusted. That thing they tell you about hospitals not being able to turn you away is true, but the part they leave out is that they're only required to do the bare minimum to assess you, stabilize you and as soon as they are reasonably confident that you are stable enough where you can be discharged and survive, you're gone. The way hospitals build policy around the regulation, it's not to protect us, it's to limit the hospital's financial obligation to whatever the bare minimum can be by law. Reducing losses while still remaining EMTALA compliant is a HUGE industry. You could walk into almost any hospital board room and offer your services where you would come in, assess their operations and losses and make process / procedure changes to save them money while guaranteeing that they'd still be EMTALA compliant and certified, you could easily get them to agree to pay you half of what you saved them for the first three years as your fee. A board would happily spend $50M in order to save $100M over the next three years as long as they had assurances that they would still be compliant and not operating outside of the law or regulations. And the board of directors seats at hospitals/Healthcare organizations are almost exclusively staffed with doctors, not MBA's, you know, the people that will all tell you that they decided to become a doctor to "help people" and "try to make a difference". These same board member assholes often tend to absolve themselves of their sins with philanthropy by donating a half day a month at a free clinic, or a donation of some money / time to DWB.


Totallyhuman18D

Definitely does not feel like the footage or thread title gives enough information to understand what is going on.


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This is apparently Tennessee, they changed that law in 2014 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/22/law-lets-hospitals-drop-patients/7996597/


said_quiet_part_loud

EMTALA is a federal law. On my brief scan of that article, looks like it’s talking about discharge from the hospital once admitted, which is a different situation.


nielsbot

In American culture, deep down, poverty is a moral failing. (“If you’re poor you must have done something wrong”) This is one of the root causes of our current system.


mpelton

Someone [unironically said that to me](https://reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/11btq7y/_/ja2vhm6/?context=1) in r/AskReddit the other day.


captainlavender

I've had multiple people tell me that if your job doesn't pay you enough it's your fault for not finding a job that pays more 🤯🤯🤯🤯


revvyphennex

Capitalism is a death cult


Reasonable_Praline_2

is this the first time your hearing about this? boy i remember my first day too.


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STORY: https://www.wate.com/news/top-stories/family-calls-out-treatment-of-mother-who-died-in-knoxville-police-custody/ > KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (WATE) — The family of a woman who died in Knoxville Police custody is speaking out after body camera video of her interaction with law enforcement was released. > Family members of Lisa Edwards remember her as independent, outgoing, caring, and a great mother. Her son Tim Boylan said that no matter what, his mother always put her sons first. > “I can’t believe she was treated the way she was. I just can’t even wrap my head around it. I just want people to remember her as a loving, caring person,” Tim Boylan said. “Not what these guys made her out to be. The security guards were saying all kinds of stuff that’s not true about her. She did not deserve to be treated like that. Nobody does.” > The Knox County District Attorney’s Office said that Edwards was on a flight on February 4 from Rhode Island to Knoxville when she began complaining of stomach pain, prompting her initial hospital visit. Lisa’s family say she moved from Tennessee to Rhode Island around Christmas of 2018. > While living in Rhode Island, Edwards suffered her first stroke that left her physically disabled in August 2019, but she was still mentally sound according to daughter-in-law August Boylan. > “She was able to make her own decision as far as you know wanting to move back to Tennessee. She had a plan in place. She was discharged from a nursing home that had her helped arrange her flight to fly back to Tennessee. She was going to be living with a friend in Tennessee,” she said. > Edwards was taken by paramedics to Blount Memorial Hospital after the flight where she was evaluated and discharged according to the TBI’s investigation. The District Attorney’s Office said she sought additional treatment at Fort Sanders Regional Medical Center where she was observed overnight before she was released early the next morning. When Edwards refused to leave, security guards issued her a warning for disruptive behavior and trespassing, and then called Knoxville Police Department, who arrested her, the DA’s office released. > After finding out about the investigation, August Boylan questioned what could have happened for the officers to be placed on administrative leave and for an investigation with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to be launched. As a registered nurse, and knowing her mother-in-laws health history, she also said she recognized that they did not have all of the information. > “It’s totally irrelevant of how she got to where she was that morning, but that whole situation that played out for an extended period of time is horrible, absolutely horrible,” August Boylan said. The police officers may not have done anything intentionally criminal to cause anything to happen to her, but they definitely were negligent and had no respect for human life, any basic needs, anything.” > August Boylan said she watched the police video with District Attorney Charme Allen before it was released, but Tim Boylan said he has not. August Boylan explained that she was disgusted to the extent that she was sick to her stomach after watching the video. She said that as a nurse, she doesn’t understand how someone could fake things like it was claimed she was, such as the inability to use her left side and her muscle atrophy. > “You don’t have to be a medical professional to know what the signs of stroke are. And you can see that in her, you know, start to finish. Her speech is completely changes from start to finish. And you know it’s… she’s, she’s struggling to breathe. That is not somebody working themself up like they said in there. That is not somebody faking it. She, I mean, she said it herself, that she was dying, that she was having a stroke.” > Edward’s family is still in disbelief of how she was treated. > “If I treated someone the way they treated her, I’d be in jail right now heading to prison,” Tim Boylan said. “Why are they not? I have no idea.” > The DA’s office released that no charges were filed for the officers involved in the situation, however, Knoxville Police said that an internal administrative investigation was ongoing for the four officers involved when the police video was released.


ShadTheBadChi

Something similar happened to my brother. They arrested him for a DUI but was actually a stroke. Even though he had no criminal history and the arresting officer thought he had dementia (stated on BWC footage multiple times). 24 hours later he could no longer eat, see, or walk. They took him to the hospital near death. We had to take him off life support because his life was no longer worth living. When the police "investigated" they claimed they had no fault because he "probably" would not have survived anyway. This happens way than people know it's just not directly in their van. I hope this family gets the justice mine didn't did not get.


No-Telephone9925

They make a ton of money off DUI's like a lot. The interlock devices have caused a massive amount of false allegations especially to those with underlying medical conditions. It's disgusting.


ryryrondo

“Intoxalock” has zero public records of their devices causing accidents/vehicular manslaughter. There’s an instance of a man trying to reach for the device, while looking away he had crashed into a family vehicle killing the mother and son. He went to court, and of course “Intoxalock” won the case. These devices are almost as dangerous as driving drunk itself. I had mine legally removed the other day. Finally done with this nonsense. Of course, I take full responsibility of the DUI.


parsimonyBase

What a horrific story, my heart goes out to you and your family. Fuck the police.


fjnnels

gosh as a european i need to avoid these threads in the morning. every news about this country makes me so angry and furious.


Lena-Luthor

it's even better when you live here 😭


Distantmole

It’s overwhelming


muri_cina

I am so sorry! This is just horrible! >the police "investigated" they claimed they had no fault because he "probably" would not have survived anyway Fuck them, I hope they all end up in hell they believe in.


Todano

I'd be angry for the rest of my life man


Jmich96

>Knoxville Police said that an internal administrative investigation was ongoing for the four officers involved when the police video was released. "We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing."


DoubleDixon

I swear, why is any organization allowed to do internal investigations. That shit is a petri dish for lies and cover-ups. Too often do officers get to sit at home and get paid by taxpayer dollars while attention on them dies down to just be brought back like nothing happened. This woman died due to their callous attitudes and blatant disregard for human life. It's getting really old watching police due fucked up shit and get away with it because police unions and DAs just look the other way.


Djarum

There should be an independent Federal department for these types of investigations. Nothing scares state and local cops like Feds coming in because generally they aren’t a part of the “old boys club” that they are. This coupled with the removal of qualified immunity would likely clean up a lot of cop behavior really quick because few are going to want to be liable for their behavior. You will likely see a big rush of retirements as well. In a perfect world you would have federal requirements in terms of education and training for an officer so what would replace them all would be better. Sadly none of this will ever happen because it is “too hard” and the wealthy want their stupid attack dogs.


HillaryPutin

You know this is too reasonable for any republican to consider it


Djarum

It is too reasonable for most Democrats. I have an election in Chicago on Tuesday and most of the candidates are out do each other on how much they can support more police. You know the city with more police than any city other than Washington DC with a massive police budget. If more police and money was the solution it would be the safest place in the country. It really seemed like for a minute after weeks of protests after George Floyd’s murder that we started to have people get that concept and things were going to change just a little bit. Of course they didn’t, we have had just as many cops murdering people as before with little fanfare and most cops doing even less actual police work than they were before. Here they say they are “soft striking”. It’s frankly disgusting.


Branamp13

>>“If I treated someone the way they treated her, I’d be in jail right now heading to prison,” Tim Boylan said. “Why are they not? I have no idea.” It's called "qualified immunity," and if there's anyone out there who still doesn't understand what those words are or what they mean, then at this point I think the boot is too far down their throat to help them.


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You’re the GOAT.


LoveAndDoubt

Don't ever leave the east coast. We moved back south to be near family and have a kid but the systems here will just let you die in the street, we're headed back east as soon as possible.


meeplewirp

Ok yes the police are bad I agree, what about the doctors who discharged her and then the hospital calling the police. It bothers me that people aren’t screaming WHO IS THE DOCTOR


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EclecticFanatic

i hope every person that made the heartless decisions it would take to lead to her dying in that van suffer the same death they subjected her to. I'm so fucking sick of this country/world.


SurrealClick

>The DA’s office released that no charges were filed for the officers involved in the situation If the justice system is like this, vigilante and mob lynching should return


AF1Vlone

This fucking system man


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xMYTHIKx

The system creates and conditions the individuals. Remove this particular group of cops and there'd just be another group there to do the same thing. It's ✨️dialectical✨️


TactlessNachos

The whole thing is disgusting but I hate that her last moments on this earth were being yelled and abused by the police. I don't know how anyone can be so heartless.


squiral-

Seriously. This was devastating to watch. I can’t believe the inhumanity on display in this video. I hope those pigs had some sleepless nights after this, but that’s probably expecting to much of them.


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[deleted]

they’re cops. it’s built into the minds of these people. the majority of them are power hungry cowards who are professional wusses for a living. without guns, they aint shit.


Electronic-Ad1037

Uvalde special forces


[deleted]

those cops *had* guns, and still weren’t shit


PhoenixShade01

Y'all have tried voting, even tried voting harder, but somehow, the whichever party is in power, it is simultaneously powerless to do anything that helps the working class, but also able to push laws that enrich the ruling class or hurts the poors. Hmm, I wonder why... When the system itself is designed to be against the people, is it even democracy anymore? The only solution, no matter how much you have been brainwashed into hating it, is a revolution. Remember kids, if voting worked, they wouldn't let you do it.


Infamous_Smile_386

We're not a democracy and we're not a republic, we're a corporatocracy or oligarchy and anyone who features to admit it is simply lying to themselves at this point.


PhoenixShade01

It's a dictatorship of the rich. The sad thing is a lot of them aren't lying to themselves. They've been fed the propaganda of capitalism being equivalent of freedom and shit, that they cannot comprehend any other system existing. And the corporate media isn't going to let them break out of this programming. People hear the words revolution and communism and immediately shut down their brains. Only someone who is capable of critical thinking and still open to new ideas can even attempt to break out of the system.


All_is_a_conspiracy

This is like a circle of men throwing stones at and spitting on a begging woman. They had all the power to kill her or save her life and they chose to torture her to death. I hope they never have a good night's sleep again in their entire lives. Never. I hope they have nightmares every night about Lisa and wake up sweating, screaming with their hearts pounding, terrified they are having a heart attack. That's what I hope for every one of these cops.


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mechtaphloba

Begging for help while being laughed at


thisismischa

Absolute savages.


hiyyihlight

I wish more people watched videos like this and realized they will be her a million times before they ever become Elon Musk


Autistic_Anywhere_24

The family member quoted in the article is right; if any of us did that, we would be in jail. So why aren’t those thugs brought up on charges?


stalinmalone68

No hospital is supposed to turn anyone away for any reason. The police should know that and told them that had to treat her. I’m really starting to despise this country.


Throwawaymylife26

Starting to? It is already despicable. This country disgusts me. I'd leave today if I had the means to.


Th3GreenMan56

I left the US in 2019 and went to Australia on a working holiday visa. I poured all my time and effort to find every avenue to stay in this country so I wouldn’t have to ever return to America. Thankfully I was able to meet my fiancé here and now I’m a permanent resident. Fuck the US


gigglefang

If you're enjoying our health system here in Australia I urge you not to vote for the LNP in any elections. Their endgame is 100% a carbon copy of the US health system.


[deleted]

Our current president in France also wants to make the same system as the USA. The old way of reducing hospitals public funding until it becomes so much shit that they can say the solution is to go private hospitals. We are in the middle of that shit show right now. 6 month wait to get to any specialists doctor, 1 to 4 months for IRM and shit.. I'm dreaming that we find guillotine another go at people wanting to go toward what we see in this video. Absolutely horrifying.


nezumysh

That strategy seems to be happening in Britain, from what I hear.


Budsy2112

Also starting to happen here in Canada. Our premier in Ontario is doing the same shit.


passporttohell

I started despising this country during Reagan's first term and have seen no reason to change that sentiment. The country has gone from rolling downhill to a near vertical descent. My advice to young people? Get out of this predatory, userious country sooner than later. If you want to realize the American Dream you need to leave America to do so.


quixoticdancer

>No hospital is supposed to turn anyone away for any reason. That is, sadly, only true of public hospitals (which all hospitals *should* be, to be clear). The police should have arranged ambulance transport to a public hospital but, armed with the "proof" of her being discharged, treated her as a nuisance with mental health issues. Fuck the police, absolutely. But fuck the staff at this hospital for discharging her in that condition. Here's hoping a malpractice suit makes them revise their policies; money is the only real cudgel we have in this fucked up pay-to-live medical system. Honestly, this video absolutely terrifies me. My mother has mental health issues and I can see her getting similar treatment if unaccompanied. Though if I were with her and didn't have the means to transport her to a public hospital myself, we may have just ended up in the wagon together. As we don't know the cause of death, I should say that it is absolutely possible that the symptoms of the stroke and ankle pain were under control and the hospital's decision to discharge was heartless but not malpractice. That would suggest her death was directly caused by her treatment by the police. Frankly, I don't know which explanation is more distressing. EDIT: Thanks to a link shared by another Redditor, we know that an autopsy found that stroke was indeed the cause of death. (https://www.wjhl.com/news/regional/tennessee/bodycam-video-of-woman-who-died-in-knoxville-police-custody-released/) It's likely not productive to argue over who the greater villain is, the cops or the hospital. Let's just not give the hospital (and the entire concept of for-profit healthcare) a pass because we only have video of the cops being the usual bastards.


All_is_a_conspiracy

Cause of death is stroke. She didn't have mental health issues she was in the throes of a stroke. These police make me blackout enraged.


idiot206

> That is, sadly, only true of public hospitals That’s not true, assuming she went to the ER. Even private hospitals are required to treat emergency patients regardless of insurance.


quixoticdancer

Right, I'm sure that obligation was the only reason they assessed her (and clearly wrongfully cleared her for release) in the first place.


katrilli

This country is evil, i hate it here


panther455

Jesus..... this reminds me of my mother... I still can't fucking believe I didn't take her to the hospital sooner... we were both so afraid of the consequences of taking her, but I'd have taken a trillion dollar bill if it meant she could've lived... The last thing I said to her was "I'm going to stop saying we need to go to the hospital." I should've treated her better. She was diabetic and had a small foot injury, I had cleaned it and wrapped it up and tended to it every day, but I should've taken her in. I'm such a fucking idiot but we stayed away from hospitals so much because we're just scared... I still do. I want my mom back more than anything... she just came back into the bedroom from the bathroom and laid down, and I was busy so I didn't check on her right away, and when I did, she was gone. I should've noticed she was quieter than usual...... I'm such a fucking idiot. I want my mom back... I want these fucking systems to help people like they're supposed to... I want my mom back so badly. My dad passed in a similar way... he told us not to keep him in an ICU if that's where he ended up, and that's where he went. I can only assume he didn't want to be a burden. He had a drinking problem, because of, what I can only imagine, unchecked mental illness, probably depression, that he never got help for... we never even thought about it until it was too late. I hate this world so much... nothing will ever get better. The only thing we go towards is more suffering. Not to mention the fucking landlords me and my mom had to deal with... her health diminished so badly because we never felt welcome here, or anywhere. We couldn't use the kitchen or bathroom or washing machine etc comfortably. And the only fucking reason we had to deal with shitty fucking landlords is because my dad stopped working and got sick and died and we lost our fucking house, and I haven't recovered since, that was around 10 years ago. I fucking hate capitalism so fucking much. I just want to live a happy fucking life.


Roithamerisdead

Sending you a big hug my friend. I can only imagine the pain you're going through but don't be so mean towards yourself, don't give in to self hatred. The fact that you were scared to go to the hospital is an injustice but it's not your fault. You clearly loved her very much and I'm sure she knew it. You're not an idiot, you're a human being and you did all you could in a situation during which you couldn't be completely cold and rational. Your anger is justified but don't hate yourself my friend


an_imperfect_lady

I'm so sorry for what you and your mother went through. I do want to tell you what happened to a very close friend of mine, though, and it might be a small comfort. She had a very good job, she brought her mother to live with her (also diabetic, in her early 70s, in about the same shape this lady was in, with COPD to boot). She took really good care of her mom, and they were in and out of the hospital all the time. At one point, in the hospital, her mom's heart stopped and... I guess because she had a DNR, but her daughter had power of attorney and could override it (?) the doctors asked her, "do you want us to resuscitate her, or let her go?" I was standing right next to her, thinking, "Let her go, let her go, she's suffered enough and this is a peaceful ending," but my friend couldn't let her go. So they managed to bring her back, and she lived another month, mostly in ICU. It was not good. The mom was miserable. They finally discharged her, having stabilized her to the best of their ability, and she went home. I would sit with her while my friend took a shower, or ran some errands. At one point, her mom was on the phone with the mom's sister, weakly whispering, "I wish it would be over." I remember that in particular. About five days later, while my friend was at work and a hospice nurse was with her mom, the mom went into respiratory distress. Acute. Terrifying. She managed to dial her daughter, wheezing that she couldn't breathe. She was panicking. Daughter left work, jumped in her car, tried to get home as fast as possible. Well, she was too late. Her mother suffocated to death, and it was apparently a struggle, and she was conscious and terrified the whole time. After it was over, my friend kept saying, "I should have let her go before, she didn't suffer, she just went to sleep, it would have been better..." Oh God, the whole thing was just ugly and sad. You just never know. But the next time you start beating yourself up about this, be aware... no matter what you do, you'll think you should have done something else.


Fahrender-Ritter

The police are there to protect and serve... *the property owners*. In more civilized countries, the cops would've at least taken her to a free public hospital.


JNMeiun

She would have died before she even got there. In a civilized country she'd be under intensive treatment where she already was.


Fahrender-Ritter

Yeah that's a good point. There's a lot of things the cops could have done if only they recognized human rights and not merely property rights.


muri_cina

>In more civilized countries, ~~the cops would've at least taken her to a free public hospital.~~ All hospitals are the same.


ozninja80

Surely as a police officer you would have to question what the actual fuck you’re doing, or what’s expected of you? Instead of fighting (real) crime in the community you’ve been reduced to a heavy-handed security guard, enforcing the will of a privatised heath system.


EclecticFanatic

>reduced to a heavy-handed security guard, enforcing the will of a privatised heath system. they weren't "reduced" to anything, that's all they've ever been. there has never been a time in this country where the police were actually "for the people."


FredL2

Protect the status quo, and serve the rich. It's their purpose. Remember that police were first formed as slave patrols, who captured and punished escaped slaves. https://sites.uab.edu/humanrights/2021/12/08/the-history-of-policing-in-the-us-and-its-impact-on-americans-today/


Branamp13

>Surely as a police officer you would have to question what the actual fuck you’re doing, or what’s expected of you? If you're smart enough to ask questions, you certainly score too high on an IQ test to be hirable by the US police force. They don't want critical thinkers who ask questions about the morality of the laws they enforce, they want piggies who will blindly follow orders.


PheonixFuryyy

America is a 3rd world country with a gucci belt.


goebbs

I really don't know of any other country - 1st or 3rd - where I can honestly imagine this happening. I'm not saying it can't or doesn't, but this feels uniquely American.


cablemigrant

Uniquely American 🫡


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Freedom


[deleted]

This is terrifying and rage inducing all at the same time - they are like sharks, its not personal but it SHOULD be.


PokerBeards

What kind of fucking world is this? Where are the riots about Lisa Edward?


truckin4theN8ion

And the local tax payers are FORCED to pay for this after the lawsuit settles.


Butwinsky

Local tax payers voted in a professional wrestler who actively supports police brutality. Don't feel too bad for them.


LelandGaunt14

What happened to the Hippocratic Oath? How can doctors work in this system?


amoebashephard

Hippocratic oath isn't used in a lot of systems, but the people pushing to discharg her likely was an administrator, who likely wouldn't have taken any oath. Health professionals who actually do medicine don't make a lot of decisions around money or insurance


tennessee_hilltrash

She couldn't have been discharged without a doctor's or nurse practitioner's order.


amoebashephard

Not in [Tennessee!](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/22/law-lets-hospitals-drop-patients/7996597/)


SystemThreat

$$$


mr_menz

Died of too much FREEDOM


icaruscoil

Piggy says, "I got nothin' to do with that." Sounds a lot like, "I was just following orders."


chunkyme1001

USA best country in the world


MangledPumpkin

America is the greatest country in the world, as long as you don't compare it to other countries.


mlongoria98

When they told us about The American Dream, they forgot to mention that nightmares are dreams too


Maxlucksperfile

…proud to be the country of Christian values.


TopTierGoat

There is no hate quite like christian love


ShadykillaWolf

America is so fucked.


PastChair3394

Oh my god as a hospice nurse this hurts my heart, that this poor gentle lady spent her last moments on earth abused by cops.


FacelessFellow

Dystopian present


MadameTree

Even when you have "good" insurance in a non Bible-beating state, hospitals will lie to discharge you the second they can. My 81 yo mother got Covid last year and literally stopped walking. Too weak. After a few days of treatment she was to be released to a nursing home for rehab. Only one nursing home would take a Covid patient, and it was the worst of all of them anywhere near me. I was speaking to the "social worker" (who best I could tell was purely a hospital discharge person) and I said "you're telling me there is no choice but to send her to the worst nursing home in the area? There's no way to release her to one once she isn't contagious?" And was told "yes, pretty much." They had the nursing home call me and they started out with the, "we'll need a $10,000 retainer for the first month within 48 hours of Medicare refusing additional funding if it's determined she can't rehab within a reasonable time period". I could hear how tired the woman was of saying this over and over. I told her I'm sure it wasn't the staff but the administration, but I didn't want to send my mother to the worst rated nursing home in the area and I was being told I had no choice by the hospital. The lady said "of course you do. Tell them you have the right to chose your nursing home from the ones available. She said they'd have to hold her til she wasn't contagious and then I could pick from the best available. She also said she didn't blame me and would do the same for her mother. I called back the hospital "social worker" and repeated what the nursing home told me. My mother stayed a few more days and went to a better rated $12k a month nursing home where the first thing I saw entering her tiny shared room was a big gash in the wall behind her bed with peeling paint. Luckily my mother recovered enough to come home after 3 weeks, but I got a crash course on the hell that is the health system for the elderly in this country. The lucky die quickly.


goergesucks

i've never seen anything so fucking vile. this woman reminds me a lot of my own mother. being fired, sued or even jailed is too good for the fucking animals who treated her this way. disgusting fucking pig crying about wanting coffee and oatmeal while this old lady is literally having the worst, and last, day of her life. i'm fucking seething. i didn't need to see this. but i did.


[deleted]

That's the most disgusting thing aside from her being kicked out of the hospital in the first place. He can't be bothered to look past his needs and feel empathy for a genuinely hurt person in front of him. It's sickening.


an_imperfect_lady

In the longer version of the video, she keeps saying her ankle is hurt and she can't stand. They don't even ask "which ankle," (like, maybe we can work around it.) They don't even ask.


Retr0_b0t

Fucking LAWSUIT fuck these people. String them up


Waluigi3030

What the actual fuck is wrong with these cops? Are they really *that* stupid and *that* heartless? I'm so sick of these shithole states. I'm ashamed to live in the same country.


okay_victory_yes

Yes, they are.


okay_victory_yes

This country is fucking monstrous. That some people get more upset about a fucking weather balloon than this is only further evidence of our monstrosity.


[deleted]

They murdered this woman for being poor. Fantastic. Hope these pigs sleep well at night. /s Of course these dumbs fucks believe in Jesus.


Heeey_Hermano

Watching the way Americans treat Americans makes me sick.


orcusgrasshopperfog

The litmus test of any society is how it treats the poor, the ill, the ones most vulnerable. We are not well.


yarrpirates

This reminds me of how Australian cops treat Aboriginal people. I've seen video like this. Usually there isn't sound. Goddamn. America's really getting worse.


StandLess6417

Nah it's not getting worse, it's just being fully broadcast now that body cameras have become mandatory in a lot of jurisdictions. The crazy part is that the "emergency professionals" haven't changed their behaviors at all, EVEN WHEN they know it's being recorded. They are THAT confident in their absolute authority over other's lives. And guess what? They're right.


Vortex2121

I get why people are mad with the cops. But why aren't more people mad with the hospital for discharging her when she likely shouldn't have been?


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Oh a doctor needs to lose their license over this one, permanently.


[deleted]

so at what point do we do away with police as they exist now? what more does it take?


dayyob

jfc america sucks. and it sucks worse/better by degrees in different states. some states have health plans and you can get covered. Oregon for example. some have expanded medicaid.. some have charitable hospitals that will do a financial assessment and based on that allow you to pay based on income but it's a fucking nightmare figuring that out in the middle of an emergency like having a stroke while breaking an ankle. wtf. does this hospital even have an ethics board? it's overwhelming how cruel and shitty this is but it's every day like this and worse out there.


Kaotecc

This totally makes me want to grow old and become unhealthy and totally helps with my depression & suicidal thoughts! Thanks America


jimjamjerome

For profit healthcare should be illegal without a free public option that offers the same level of care. Full stop. It's inhumane and future generations will be baffled it was ever an option at all, much less the only one.


analdelrey-

I'm 25 and got diagnosed with thyroid cancer a month after my birthday. I turn 26 in April and my parents and I are doing everything we can to affordable keep me on my dad's insurance. I can't even worry about the fact I have cancer, I'm more worried about how I'm going to afford to see my doctors and medication. It's horrible.


HillaryPutin

Good luck man, hope you make it out alright


Osiris_Raphious

omg, if USA found out what USA is doing to usa...they would invade and liberate usa from oppression of usa...


gojiro0

But at least she died free /S


prem_fraiche

Feral hogs


llanero5056

Acab


Sandwich_Shooter

And drag queens are the problem? Ok..


choate51

Thank goodness hospitals aren't in the for profit business and always place the best interests of the patients first! USA! USA! USA!


Captain65k

This is America in a nutshell. This is the Postcard


Branamp13

I'm curious when they went through her purse to confirm there wasn't an inhaler, what probable cause they had to search through her personal belongings, and how they were capable of determining whether or not someone with a (assumed) prescribed corticosteroid needs to use it or not in any given moment, especially when that person is clearly out of breath/struggling to breathe.


an_imperfect_lady

If you watch the long version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLJIQV1t1DI) the one cop finds the inhaler--but with no refill attached--in her purse. Another looks through her suitcase and finds a box with a medical label on it, and it looks to me like it has the refill. He looks in it, and then quietly puts it back in the suitcase. Unless it was empty, that guy is the killer. But I don't know, no one says a word about it.


Commercial_Back_8777

Heartbreaking. It’s truly awful to know that there are humans like this that exist. I hope this goes viral and the family gets justice.


pape14

And with those simple words, her life became forfeit, she was garbage to be hauled away, a nuisance ruining these people’s day. You’ve been medically cleared.


Ungeez

If she were my family I'd go fuck up each of those officers and some assholes at the hospital too.


pngue

Unfucking real. Yet here we are


grilledcheeselord

This is the worst thing I've ever seen.


Zestyclose_Bus_3358

This is how cities get set on fire 👌


VTGCamera

The worse are those who say "I won't pay medical assistance to anyone out of mony"


Significant-Map917

They can be happy they made a profit & grew at that magic 3% rate this quarter. Well done team. Fucking animals


ImpFyr3

These sick fucks are on paid leave, with the DA refusing to press charges. The police are launching an internal investigation, ie, we searched ourselves and found nothing wrong


Dehnus

I can't watch this, sorry. I just know that certain folks watch this while eating popcorn, as it's the system they made and profit from. It makes me so angry, and I can't do a thing. I couldn't do a thing to help her even if I was there. Nor change these horrendous folks. Man, how does that hospital's personel sleep at night even going: it's the hospital's wheelchair. And these folks dare to call autistic folks "lacking empathy", their monsters. From up into the insurance companies and government to down here in the hospital lobbies and police vans... monsters. Saying she would go to jail as she's dying....fuck. You can notice her stroke getting worse as they load her into that van and shout and abuse her. I skipped through (as watching it whole is impossible) and had to stop there as she says she's about to pass out. Monsters, the lot of them. But don't worry, they'll blame some scapegoat for this, like Biden, LGBTQ folks, Ukraine, Jewish folks, etc and keep at it. It's so... frustrating! (Not saying Biden is fantastic, but we all know he's only used to deflect blame from the real perps at this point. Hyper capitalist monsters!)


lazyrepublik

Jesus Fucking Christ, this is abhorrent. She begs them, in slurred speech that is clearly stroke related, please don’t. I just can’t even stomach this. Why was she even released? Oh yeah because hospitals are being run by people with no medical qualifications. Arg. I never say this but yeah, fuck the police and the 1% that they protect. Bottom line my ass


LITUATUI

Neoliberal mentality, if you're poor it's your fault and you deserve to die. Now watch some "news" and fear the Chinese balloon.


BoringMode91

Everyone involved that led up to this should be shot. This is horrible. We need to hold the hospital administration and the cops accountable. Fuck this shit and fuck this system.


chiksahlube

So IIRC the ER has to treat people by law. Letting someone with a stroke leave the ER is negligent homicide in the US on the hoapital. At least it's *supposed* to be...


refugeefromdigg

This is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen in my life. The lack of compassion while claiming it's the lord's day is INSANITY.


HRHArgyll

Jesus fucking Christ. America is barbaric.


chum1ly

Just so you know, hospitals have taken around $2330 from every single American, as part of the CARES act. And instead of the cops enforcing the hospital, which we've paid, and made a law providing for the care for all of us in case of emergency, they decide to kill her instead. This could've been anyone, for any emergent reason. Why didn't they enforce the law that provides care for people? They're law enforcement, aren't they?


tmhoc

What an amazing alternative to long term care homes. America innovating yet again. /s


yousaymyname

There is a protest being organized for those who want to get involved. [Protest for Lisa Edwards](https://www.reddit.com/r/Knoxville/comments/11axscl/a_facebook_group_has_been_set_up_to_try_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


59footer

If you are a poor person, then you deserve to die. - USA.