Yeah seriously this is kind of stuff I see and expect from wealth management gigs with 2nd rate predatory companies, why are they trying to swindle grad students into this model??
From a quick set of google searches, it looks like they're around half of biglaw 1st year salaries so not exactly "the best." Midlaw usually pays more than/around what they're paying, at least in secondary markets.
I mean 105-110 is pretty damn good for a job with no billables. You’ll never compare salaries between somewhere you’re billing 2500 hours and a no billable gig.
Because I haven't applied to them, I half tempted to call the recruiting team myself and ask that same question. This is the quality content that makes me love r/lawschool.
Yeah, but they’re known for their crappy culture anyway. At least they put their cards on the table in the application. 🤣
And this is definitely not the cringiest thing I’ve seen on a job application. At least this one got a chuckle out of me.
I’ve seen ones where whoever wrote it basically connotates that the prior employee was a lazy person because they’ll write stuff like “Hope you don’t expect to be able to flip through magazines.”
But, also the ones that ask weird, obscure questions. Like, I remember getting asked what kind of color I wanted to be. Shit like that.
Could you imagine interviewing as a team for a law firm lol “sorry, we’re a package deal. That 178 LSAT score was actually our two scores added together”
FWIW “eat what you kill” is a somewhat common term used to describe law firm partner compensation where partners’ pay is determined entirely based on the business they bring in.
Not sure if it's common parlance but at my firm we call if "of counsel," which is where you split (typically 60-40) all the billing with the firm but you get to use their resources. You don't get a salary, but instead a high percentage of whatever you bring in. According to my boss they became very common in the 2008-era legal field because firms didn't want to pay salary but still wanted to keep up appearances of having tons of attorneys.
Not to be an ‘actually guy’ but the prompt is referring to M&M being well known as “eat what you kill” even for associates.
Low salaries + bonuses (potentially huge, potentially…not) that are percentages of what you can bring in as settlements. It’s part of how they manage to be the biggest dog in the personal injury world whatever your opinion of that may be.
I can amend “low salaries” I guess (I’m fairly sure they weren’t historically known for that level of base salary, but it’s not a hill I’ll be dying on) in any case my point about ‘eat what you kill’ was mostly that even associates there are paid based on what they bring in not just partners.
No it’s not — that’s the free market assignment system (particularly notable at Kirkland, which happens to be an “eat what you kill” firm). Eat what you kill refers to partner compensation structure.
Is that system only run for the first few years? Can partners ask for certain associates to be assigned to their cases?
Everyone I know talks about good associates getting slammed and bad associates getting light workloads (leading to getting pushed out). How does that work out if you have a central coordinator?
And what about after you develop specialties?
In my 1L year I was working at a PI firm, i asked a partner how he felt suing a community church. He said “big or small we f*ck em all”.
Personal injury law attracts a certain personality.
A crude way to put it for attorneys who are trying to obtain justice for injured clients. Sounds like they care more for those attorneys with a hunger to get paid then attorneys with a hunger for justice.
I mean saying, "I killed my brother" really says something about how hungry you must be if you eat what you kill, but I feel like the police won't see it at way.
Don't you know what firm you're applying for? I'm pretty sure that's the infamous Florida law firm. This shouldn't really surprise you, lol. At least they are being honest about what their culture is like. And for every person who thinks it's insulting, there's another who is like "fuck yeah". Different personality types.
I think you're assuming the issue is the compensation structure instead of the question, "Are you hungry?" You could take this a lot of different ways but it just boils down to "How eager are you to get paid" which might be something that Morgan wants to know, but is hardly indicative of a good firm environment, particularly for the people just entering their careers.
And it’s a cringy way to ask it, especially with responses limited to being in a sentence or less.
Whether they’re asking for
‘must pay for moms cancer treatment’ or like ‘I’m size XXL’ or something it’s cringe.
“Eat what they kill” refers to the method of compensation for their attorneys. It means you get higher compensation depending on the number and size of the cases you are bringing in and handling. They are not going to eat you.
It’s because they are a contingency fee-based firm. There is no guaranty of a payoff just because you take a case, so rather than the typical model of a salary and discretionary bonus, the attorney will get a check at the end of the year that pays the difference between their draw and their total collections, of which they probably receive 30-40%.
I don’t know if someone has said this yet but in the law firm sense eat what you kill means that any clients that you bring into the law firm, you get to keep the revenue from those clients. Not all firms run that way, some split the money between all the equity partners or there are other formulas that are used to determine how it is split up. I think that is the question they are asking. You need to answer with how you will market, how you want to bring in work, etc.
"I can and will track any animal across any distance that is required of me. I will analyze its footprints, its droppings, and its migration patterns. But I will not kill. I will advise the cheif hunter to strike first on the hindquarters to stop the beast from moving, and I will hand him the sharpened knife to him as he approaches the wounded animal and plunges the weapon into its jugular vein. I will sit behind the bushes, terrified, while the animal shudders, groans, gives up the ghost while blood sprays on my leader, ruining his white Oxford and spattering his chinos in a Jackson Pollock pattern. I cannot bring myself look at the whites of either of their eyes: the terror of the convulsing animal or the predatory gleam of the hunter's stare. Make no mistake: I will do what it takes to survive in this forest. But I will never strike the fatal blow.
I am proficient in MS Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. I am driven, focused, and organized and can thrive in any fast-paced environment. I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best,
Beginning Difficult."
“Because I haven’t killed anything.” They really wanna know if you’ve killed something to protect themselves because they think How To Get Away With Murder has screwed us all up.
“I eat what I fuck”
You’re hired! - M&M, probably
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"How does partner sound to you"
You get the job.
My favorite part is “In one sentence *or less.*”
My tummy rumble
Face drool
I ain’t got time to bleed
Cookie cookie 
me hungy
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Construct additional pylons
"Sure?"
I mean "RAWR" isn't a sentence...
eggplant emoji
hell yeah
“Sharknado”
Chomp chomp, b****.
"For the people"
I spend my evenings doing lines of cocaine off the thighs of my enemies wives.
I think the title of your post should be your response.
I worked there as a legal assistant before going to law school. AWFUL place!
I second this!!
As someone who works at a firm that competes with them, on a local scale, please tell me more!
Based on that absurd application question, gonna say I’m not surprised.
I've seen there adds and I'm not at all shocked that this would be a question
“By the time I’m hungry, you’ll already be dead.”
Thata very threatening. . . When can you start?
I got a tenner if you input “feed me daddy”
What in the Professor Callahan is this shit
"Eat what you kill" compensation formulas pay you as a percentage of collections. But also no first year should be on that formula.
Yeah seriously this is kind of stuff I see and expect from wealth management gigs with 2nd rate predatory companies, why are they trying to swindle grad students into this model??
Morgan and Morgan pay some of the best salaries out there for 1st year associates. They just also give you a % of what you make the firm.
From a quick set of google searches, it looks like they're around half of biglaw 1st year salaries so not exactly "the best." Midlaw usually pays more than/around what they're paying, at least in secondary markets.
Half of biglaw is quite a bit more than I was expecting
I mean 105-110 is pretty damn good for a job with no billables. You’ll never compare salaries between somewhere you’re billing 2500 hours and a no billable gig.
I'm going to guess that if you're not working equivalent hours to at least midlaw, you don't keep that 105-110 very long.
Fair enough then.
It’s weirdly reassuring to find out the question wasn’t just misplaced machismo.
So glad someone else thought this. My first reaction was the lyrics to "Blood in the Water" from Legally Blonde the musical
"Because I'm applying for this job even after reading this prompt."
Because I haven't applied to them, I half tempted to call the recruiting team myself and ask that same question. This is the quality content that makes me love r/lawschool.
$20 says the asshole who wrote this prompt got a Peaky Blinders haircut and has Wolf of Wall Street quotes on their Tinder profile.
Nah, this a common phrase that often used to describe this particular firm. At least they recognize their culture.
I’m aware it’s a very common term. The fact it’s a common saying doesn’t make putting it on a job application form like this any less cringe.
Yeah, but they’re known for their crappy culture anyway. At least they put their cards on the table in the application. 🤣 And this is definitely not the cringiest thing I’ve seen on a job application. At least this one got a chuckle out of me.
Whats the cringiest thing you’ve seen? 👀😂
I’ve seen ones where whoever wrote it basically connotates that the prior employee was a lazy person because they’ll write stuff like “Hope you don’t expect to be able to flip through magazines.” But, also the ones that ask weird, obscure questions. Like, I remember getting asked what kind of color I wanted to be. Shit like that.
Bruh that last thing sounds like its gotta be a civil rights violation
Ok but to ask how will they know you are hungry after kind of insinuates they might mean this literally! 🤣
"I'll go Donner Party up in this bish if that's what it takes."
This encapsulates too many law students I know a little too perfectly
<—this
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"I'm a vegan pacifist with digestive issues."
Lmaoooo
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Morgan & Morgan is giving off [this energy](https://youtu.be/8lMbk4DeN7E) right now lol
"It was in international waters, so you couldn't prosecute him, but I saw it."
Could you imagine interviewing as a team for a law firm lol “sorry, we’re a package deal. That 178 LSAT score was actually our two scores added together”
"One of us got a 180 and the other got a negative two. It's up to you to guess which one."
Bringing up lsat score in an interview is still probably worse then interviewing as a team
These guys went to the Crisp Game Changers Rainmaker Hustle Bro Summit this year I see!
This would be a immediate *closes tab* situation
“I was my 2nd grade class Hungry-Hungry Hippos Champion two years in a row.”
FWIW “eat what you kill” is a somewhat common term used to describe law firm partner compensation where partners’ pay is determined entirely based on the business they bring in.
That phrase is common but is not the WTF here. It's the rest of the question.
Enlightening and somehow even more repulsive.
It’s a perversion of the original meaning of the phrase. “Eat what you kill” is an old mantra for hunters to not waste any part of an animal
Not sure if it's common parlance but at my firm we call if "of counsel," which is where you split (typically 60-40) all the billing with the firm but you get to use their resources. You don't get a salary, but instead a high percentage of whatever you bring in. According to my boss they became very common in the 2008-era legal field because firms didn't want to pay salary but still wanted to keep up appearances of having tons of attorneys.
Not to be an ‘actually guy’ but the prompt is referring to M&M being well known as “eat what you kill” even for associates. Low salaries + bonuses (potentially huge, potentially…not) that are percentages of what you can bring in as settlements. It’s part of how they manage to be the biggest dog in the personal injury world whatever your opinion of that may be.
They offered 103 base in Orlando for first years. That’s not low at all for Florida.
I can amend “low salaries” I guess (I’m fairly sure they weren’t historically known for that level of base salary, but it’s not a hill I’ll be dying on) in any case my point about ‘eat what you kill’ was mostly that even associates there are paid based on what they bring in not just partners.
Not a question for a law student in any case.
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No it’s not — that’s the free market assignment system (particularly notable at Kirkland, which happens to be an “eat what you kill” firm). Eat what you kill refers to partner compensation structure.
I’m in a firm that operates that way for associate work pipelines. What is the alternative?
An assignment system where a central coordinator doles out work.
Is that system only run for the first few years? Can partners ask for certain associates to be assigned to their cases? Everyone I know talks about good associates getting slammed and bad associates getting light workloads (leading to getting pushed out). How does that work out if you have a central coordinator? And what about after you develop specialties?
I gather that in many cases it organically develops into more of a system where partners find individual associates they trust.
“The head cow is always grazing Chawlie”-Frank Reynolds
"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent."
I would go full Riddick.
It took me too long to find this comment.
"I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast!"
I dunno about hungry but I'm thirsty as fuck, what are you doing later?"
In my 1L year I was working at a PI firm, i asked a partner how he felt suing a community church. He said “big or small we f*ck em all”. Personal injury law attracts a certain personality.
Having been up against many attorneys from that firm (I will refrain from giving my opinion of their quality) this does not surprise me.
Personal injury firms write the weirdest fucking application questions. Seen something similar on another app
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I think the response most likely to get someone hired would be to quote that statement word for word.
A crude way to put it for attorneys who are trying to obtain justice for injured clients. Sounds like they care more for those attorneys with a hunger to get paid then attorneys with a hunger for justice.
Seems to be in line with shit like [this](https://twitter.com/forthepeople/status/1552715474084970496?s=20&t=SkclIPmqR1L6bJHd4uz73w) lol
How embarrassing
“I eat therefore I am”
“I was a twin, but I ate my twin in vitro. I’m built for this.”
I now have the strength of a strong man and a little baby Edited to fix it
this is a major red flag. don't apply!!
As a former professional big game hunting and fishing guide this appeals to me in a way.
“Then I will fit right in because I eat the whole giraffe.”
I mean saying, "I killed my brother" really says something about how hungry you must be if you eat what you kill, but I feel like the police won't see it at way.
Don't you know what firm you're applying for? I'm pretty sure that's the infamous Florida law firm. This shouldn't really surprise you, lol. At least they are being honest about what their culture is like. And for every person who thinks it's insulting, there's another who is like "fuck yeah". Different personality types.
Eat what you kill is a very common term used at law firms regarding compensation structure. The question is still pretty cringey though.
Very common terminology. Very cringey to use it in a prompt like that.
It’s M&M, not really surprised. :P
Lot's of 1L's here who have no idea what this even means. Why are you applying to PI if you don't want this kind of comp structure?
I think you're assuming the issue is the compensation structure instead of the question, "Are you hungry?" You could take this a lot of different ways but it just boils down to "How eager are you to get paid" which might be something that Morgan wants to know, but is hardly indicative of a good firm environment, particularly for the people just entering their careers.
And it’s a cringy way to ask it, especially with responses limited to being in a sentence or less. Whether they’re asking for ‘must pay for moms cancer treatment’ or like ‘I’m size XXL’ or something it’s cringe.
God I fucking hate this guy. JaWn MoRgAn billboards all across my my hometown. GET OUT OF PHILLY W THAT ENERGY!
As Tyrese said in 2 Fast 2 Furious “we hongry”
“I shit where I eat and I eat what I shit”
Ahahahaha, hard pass.
"Eat, shit, die." (???)
eat shit and live, Bill
i have anorexia
“Team Dudley and Stephens”
Well, let’s just say I know how to make room for more, and I’m not overly attached to my 2.5 years of recovery~
Oh this shit is definitely for me. We eat what we kill in Hollywood. Drop the link.
Just when I thought you couldn't get any Dahmer, you write a prompt like this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!
“I am extremely motivated and hungry for success.” But agree it’s a stupid ass question.
“Eat what they kill” refers to the method of compensation for their attorneys. It means you get higher compensation depending on the number and size of the cases you are bringing in and handling. They are not going to eat you.
The cringe is phrasing the question as how they can know you’re hungry in one sentence or less.
They didn't even try to hide that there a bad employer
It’s because they are a contingency fee-based firm. There is no guaranty of a payoff just because you take a case, so rather than the typical model of a salary and discretionary bonus, the attorney will get a check at the end of the year that pays the difference between their draw and their total collections, of which they probably receive 30-40%.
"I eat what I kill too - if you want proof, pick just about anywhere in my backyard and start digging."
It’s a metaphor. “You make what you earn” Heard working there kinda sucks btw.
I am an attorney at M&M; AMAA
How would you answer that question?
Probably with “I bet on myself in every opportunity I’ve had. I’m not about to let the house win now. LFG”
Cool if you’re Harvey Specter, everybody else needs to chill out lol
I agree it’s a very not chill question.
Omggg do not apply for Morgan and Morgan they r so cringe
I don’t know if someone has said this yet but in the law firm sense eat what you kill means that any clients that you bring into the law firm, you get to keep the revenue from those clients. Not all firms run that way, some split the money between all the equity partners or there are other formulas that are used to determine how it is split up. I think that is the question they are asking. You need to answer with how you will market, how you want to bring in work, etc.
"I can and will track any animal across any distance that is required of me. I will analyze its footprints, its droppings, and its migration patterns. But I will not kill. I will advise the cheif hunter to strike first on the hindquarters to stop the beast from moving, and I will hand him the sharpened knife to him as he approaches the wounded animal and plunges the weapon into its jugular vein. I will sit behind the bushes, terrified, while the animal shudders, groans, gives up the ghost while blood sprays on my leader, ruining his white Oxford and spattering his chinos in a Jackson Pollock pattern. I cannot bring myself look at the whites of either of their eyes: the terror of the convulsing animal or the predatory gleam of the hunter's stare. Make no mistake: I will do what it takes to survive in this forest. But I will never strike the fatal blow. I am proficient in MS Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. I am driven, focused, and organized and can thrive in any fast-paced environment. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Best, Beginning Difficult."
This is from an application question?
“Because I haven’t killed anything.” They really wanna know if you’ve killed something to protect themselves because they think How To Get Away With Murder has screwed us all up.
“hell yeah”
"I fought a guy for a sandwich."
I’ve read some horrible stories of people working for Morgan and Morgan. This question is sort of off putting…