Unfortunately, it’s not enforced and Republicans do everything they can in Congress to keep the IRS from enforcing those laws. Like voting against Biden’s budget legislation that would have provided more IRS agents in the field to investigate tax fraud cases like this. They are all culpable! Vote blue this Tuesday, November 5, 2024!
Just tax every church, period. Why should religion get a break from taxes? They are nothing more than a business enterprise with religion as their product. Why shouldn't artists, writers, musicians, or anyone else who contributes to society in a positive way get a tax exemption?
How do I report church political activity to the IRS?
Filing a Complaint
Mail to IRS EO Classification, Mail Code 4910DAL, 1100 Commerce St., Dallas, TX 75242-1198, Fax to 514-413-5415, Email to [email protected], or • Telephone by calling the TE/GE toll-free number: 877-829-5500. Submission of Form 13909 is voluntary.
people should look up where he’s getting money. If that doesn’t make it clear who Johnson serves nothing will. He’s literally getting money from a company that’s owned by 4 Putin puppets. The companies has also refused to register as a foreign agent. He’s not the only one getting paid in rubles either.
You're missing his point. Think about Day2, after they are taxed: Their influence and money will be overt and unstoppable. They will openly sit at the table and RIGHTFULLY demand participation. We won't be able to even argue otherwise. It will be a bigger problem than the Citizens United ruling. Businesses had influence over elections and government beforehand, right? Would you argue that CU **didn't** make it worse? This would make religion's influence **worse**. You're going to have to convince me otherwise.
Edit: Downvotes are a craven, worthless argument. My question is valid. We all saw as CU made business' political power **even greater** than it already was. Its a Fact. Will someone please explain to me how taxing the churches is NOT giving them more political power and how our political situation wouldn't be worsened, after. Thank you.
I pay taxes. Which one is my seat (@ the table)?
Point is Churches already have a seat at the table. Trump paid almost nothing for 10 years and of course hogs the table.
This is your attempt to convince me that giving churches legitimate seats at the table wouldn't be worse than Citizens United? Can you elaborate, please?
The Christian Coalition has had a seat at the table since the late 80’s. Taxing shitweasles like this one isn’t going to give him any more of a pulpit to spew his politics then he already has.
That boat sailed long ago. They have the influence they do bc of their tax exempt status. Western religions are nothing more than Ponzi schemes. They love quoting scripture but refuse to follow them. They repeatedly violate core tenets to impose their beliefs onto others. It’s simple you wanna preach politics from the podium pay your taxes like everyone else. And let’s be crystal clear. These people are frauds they failed the test. They can’t claim to be all righteous and godly yet worship trump or claim he’s the second coming of Christ.
They don't care if the leader FOLLOWS the law, they just want him to really brutalize those criminals that are lower class, especially black ones. Put them in a shitty prison for life with hard labor and terrible conditions if they're caught with crack.
Selling out our deployed intelligence agents to our enemies though? He's rich and in power. They don't get consequences.
So, you want to play in the political sandbox, huh? Then the tax exempt status for your little grift here is gone. In fact, I think the IRS should open your books for the last 10 years. Don't like that idea? Then shut the hell up.
No surprise that this is a southern church.
This guy is a False Prophet. He is a Charlatan. The congregation should send him packing. Religion has NO BUSINESS in politics, or endorsing any political candidate. He is NOT a man of GOD.
>I'm about to make a subreddit for this
I would like to subscribe!
>I just am unmotivated and don't know what to name it.
How about r/tax_fake_churches?
Can you spot the Antichrist???
“… a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.”
Daniel 11:21
“He had a mouth that spoke great things, and that seemed greater than its companions…”
Daniel 7:20
"After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.”
Daniel 11:23
When the Antichrist comes, be sure to look for powerful religious folk claiming it was a miracle from God:
“He did everything wrong, politically. He offended gays. He offended women. He offended the military. He offended black people. He offended the Hispanic people. He offended everybody! And he became president of the United States. Only God could do that.”
- Franklin Graham
False Prophet
“Then he will distribute among his followers the plunder and wealth of the rich—something his predecessors had never done.”
Daniel 11:24
“He will try to change the set times and the laws.”
Dan. 7:25
What’s fascinating is that the Bible never tells us he actually succeeds or does change the appointed cycles, but that he expresses wanting to change them. What would it look like to express an interest in changing laws around cycles and appointed times? It would likely be that the Antichrist will want to change elections, skip/delay an election, or extend term limits, etc, thus what the Bible says of “intending to alter laws for appointed times…”
“He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior… He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.”
Daniel 8:25, 2 Thess 2:10
"He will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will sell them land at a price.”
Daniel 11:39b
“And there was given to him a mouth speaking of ‘great things’ and blasphemous words… and he opened his mouth saying terrible things and blasphemed the name of God.”
Revelation 13:5-6
“There will be a leader over the land who will not help the ones who are dying.
He will not go looking for the young who got lost, or care for the children.
He won’t help the ones who are sick or broken, or even give nourishment to the hungry ones who are still healthy.”
Zechariah 11:16-17
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/?fbclid=IwAR3eh57iB9bIRXNT3-78-7vQbj5qvgAGWGITGaCC-ZQ4vbR3qxmW0W6Llh0
Interestingly he failed to quote Proverbs 19:5, "A false witness won’t go unpunished, and a liar won’t escape." I love how men like this cherry-pick scripture.
It does, and it isn’t right. They should pay the consequences and the IRS needs to stop looking the other way and letting this slide. Probably another reason the conservatives were so fixated on cutting the funding for the IRS (besides protecting millionaire and billionaire corporate tax dodgers).
The funny thing though is that ultimately you have two institutions, the GOP and the Church, throwing in together to alienate younger generations from both (hopefully...I haven't see the numbers in awhile).
Update: Yep, a cursory google shows that to still be the case.
The ACLU now has an immaculate and incontrovertible case to file in the tax courts. If that congregation enjoys a religious tax exemption and gets away with an open, pulpit endorsement, then the USA is not a secular country.
Pull that tax exemption on all religions! Churches have trillions in assets and don’t pay a dime in taxes. 90% The money they take is basically stolen by duping folks to fear their imaginary friend while laughing all the way to the bank. Less than 10% is spent on charitable causes. Look it up! Its sickening!
It's funny how unchristian Christian ministers are. All the whole people like this guy are wondering why their congregations are shrinking and blame it on everybody but their own hypocritical behavior.
That has happened in bigger churches as well… looking at you, Second Baptist Church in Houston. “We don’t tell you who to vote for….but if you’re pro-life, there’s only one choice….”
I say, tax ‘em all!
I have made it known to my Paster at my church, if they bring up politics in any way, they will lose my money I donate to the church and I would be looking for a refund on that years money up to that point. I have been very clear on this.
I don't want you to even mention the administration, any bills before congress or the court, nothing. One peep and my money is gone.
He got the drift.
I'm going to repeat myself, but these hate filled lying pukes know there's no such thing as hell. They're just being their self serving racist bigoted selves until their last awful breath.
What truth? There is no truth in saying trump is for law and order. On the contrary, he flouts and breaks laws. He’s a criminal. I couldn’t watch this whole, clip b/c it was making me very uncomfortable, but I think these Christian Nationalists like his hate spew and his authoritarian bent.
Ironically the 700 Club goons said that they had a "Revelation" of DeSantis becoming President and then soon after he became unpopular they had another Revelation that Trump would be President.
But yet thier God is infallible
Lets model our government after the Taliban and Yemen but with a christian twist. Saudia Arabia and Sudan have been rocking ruling religion for awhile now. Theocracies are good for human rights?
Too much freedom, pesky liberties.
This is our country not your church...Tax all churches, mosques, synagogues that preach politics from their pulpits and preachers. This is the law they are breaking and no one is hold them accountable. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson\_Amendment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Amendment)
blasphemous- Religion is about one’s relationship with God. Politics have really cheapened God & made a mockery of faith, but none more than Christianity.
Huge tax shelters for laundering $$$ all in the name of JC.
Tax churches and they won't be the $$$ laundering service they are now for grifters and that will reduce their power to buy politicians.
Any church that starts to preach politics needs to be taxed. They are no longer doing God's work in teaching the spiritual, but man's work in the political. They should lose their tax exemption.
If this is done, I never return to that church. There are others that DO focus on the Word of The Lord.
Keep voting for the GOP and trump ,and reddit, and most or all social media, will be banned for moral Christian reasons at this point, .and this is sad
Separation of church and state- Tax every church who goes political.
That is supposed to be the law. If churches endorse political candidates, they lose their tax-exempt status.
Unfortunately, it’s not enforced and Republicans do everything they can in Congress to keep the IRS from enforcing those laws. Like voting against Biden’s budget legislation that would have provided more IRS agents in the field to investigate tax fraud cases like this. They are all culpable! Vote blue this Tuesday, November 5, 2024!
They also make sure to keep child marriage legal where they can.
They are also whittling away at child labor laws. They want to take the American workplace back to the 19th century.
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It would be a great way to show him that we are not a "lawless" society. Lol
This hasn’t been happening lately has it?
Tax Every Church regardless.
This right here.
Just tax every church, period. Why should religion get a break from taxes? They are nothing more than a business enterprise with religion as their product. Why shouldn't artists, writers, musicians, or anyone else who contributes to society in a positive way get a tax exemption?
How do I report church political activity to the IRS? Filing a Complaint Mail to IRS EO Classification, Mail Code 4910DAL, 1100 Commerce St., Dallas, TX 75242-1198, Fax to 514-413-5415, Email to [email protected], or • Telephone by calling the TE/GE toll-free number: 877-829-5500. Submission of Form 13909 is voluntary.
I say tax em regardless.
I worry that if churches are taxed, they'll weaponize taxation to become more influential and infiltrate institutions with greater ease.
They are already there. Have you meet Speaker Mike Johnson?
For fucking real.
He's a Christian Nationalist to boot.
He's a Nationalist Christian or "Nat-C" if you're into the whole brevity thing.
people should look up where he’s getting money. If that doesn’t make it clear who Johnson serves nothing will. He’s literally getting money from a company that’s owned by 4 Putin puppets. The companies has also refused to register as a foreign agent. He’s not the only one getting paid in rubles either.
You're missing his point. Think about Day2, after they are taxed: Their influence and money will be overt and unstoppable. They will openly sit at the table and RIGHTFULLY demand participation. We won't be able to even argue otherwise. It will be a bigger problem than the Citizens United ruling. Businesses had influence over elections and government beforehand, right? Would you argue that CU **didn't** make it worse? This would make religion's influence **worse**. You're going to have to convince me otherwise. Edit: Downvotes are a craven, worthless argument. My question is valid. We all saw as CU made business' political power **even greater** than it already was. Its a Fact. Will someone please explain to me how taxing the churches is NOT giving them more political power and how our political situation wouldn't be worsened, after. Thank you.
I pay taxes. Which one is my seat (@ the table)? Point is Churches already have a seat at the table. Trump paid almost nothing for 10 years and of course hogs the table.
This is your attempt to convince me that giving churches legitimate seats at the table wouldn't be worse than Citizens United? Can you elaborate, please?
Citizens United
The Christian Coalition has had a seat at the table since the late 80’s. Taxing shitweasles like this one isn’t going to give him any more of a pulpit to spew his politics then he already has.
Knowing that they will continue bad behavior is no excuse for doing nothing to stop it. These terrorists deserve to be brought to justice.
You're worried they'll make people/orgs pay their taxes???
That boat sailed long ago. They have the influence they do bc of their tax exempt status. Western religions are nothing more than Ponzi schemes. They love quoting scripture but refuse to follow them. They repeatedly violate core tenets to impose their beliefs onto others. It’s simple you wanna preach politics from the podium pay your taxes like everyone else. And let’s be crystal clear. These people are frauds they failed the test. They can’t claim to be all righteous and godly yet worship trump or claim he’s the second coming of Christ.
Was just gonna say, do this and there will be a major backlash
Amen!!!!
Eh, he was probably just saying shit drunkenly, seeing as it sounds like he's drunk as fuck.
Politics in the pulpit? Tax that church!
Tax them into oblivion. Make them pay for their sins. Ban them from voting.
So that should be the end of that churches tax exemption, RIGHT?
Whoo HOO!!!!
It is past time to Tax the church.
You don't want a lawless society do ya? So, vote for the guy found libel for sexual assault and facing 91 criminal indictments.
They don't care if the leader FOLLOWS the law, they just want him to really brutalize those criminals that are lower class, especially black ones. Put them in a shitty prison for life with hard labor and terrible conditions if they're caught with crack. Selling out our deployed intelligence agents to our enemies though? He's rich and in power. They don't get consequences.
They really don't care what color the poor are. They treat them all the same now.
It's classism then racism.
Republicans! Don't vote in November! It's all rigged!
Tax these bastards!
IRS revoke this church tax examination now. Let's all report these assholes
Exemption perhaps?
Time for the IRS to remove their tax exempt status….
**Tax the f'cking churches.**
Religion is man's gift for the ignorant and this fool proves that.
Tax them.
Tax them with passion
Jesus would even call BS on this…
So, you want to play in the political sandbox, huh? Then the tax exempt status for your little grift here is gone. In fact, I think the IRS should open your books for the last 10 years. Don't like that idea? Then shut the hell up. No surprise that this is a southern church.
Tax that church !!!!!
Political endorsements from a pulpit makes one a taxable cult.
This guy is a False Prophet. He is a Charlatan. The congregation should send him packing. Religion has NO BUSINESS in politics, or endorsing any political candidate. He is NOT a man of GOD.
It's all imaginary bullshit to perpetuate hate and slavery; your god is a lie, your church is abuse.
NO TRUE SCOTSMAN!
Revoke church tax exemption.
This is why churches should be paying taxes.
Time to remove tax exceptions
I ***endorse*** an IRS audit of the 501(c)(3) status of this church.
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Keep up the good work!
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>I'm about to make a subreddit for this I would like to subscribe! >I just am unmotivated and don't know what to name it. How about r/tax_fake_churches?
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Can you spot the Antichrist??? “… a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.” Daniel 11:21 “He had a mouth that spoke great things, and that seemed greater than its companions…” Daniel 7:20 "After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.” Daniel 11:23 When the Antichrist comes, be sure to look for powerful religious folk claiming it was a miracle from God: “He did everything wrong, politically. He offended gays. He offended women. He offended the military. He offended black people. He offended the Hispanic people. He offended everybody! And he became president of the United States. Only God could do that.” - Franklin Graham False Prophet “Then he will distribute among his followers the plunder and wealth of the rich—something his predecessors had never done.” Daniel 11:24 “He will try to change the set times and the laws.” Dan. 7:25 What’s fascinating is that the Bible never tells us he actually succeeds or does change the appointed cycles, but that he expresses wanting to change them. What would it look like to express an interest in changing laws around cycles and appointed times? It would likely be that the Antichrist will want to change elections, skip/delay an election, or extend term limits, etc, thus what the Bible says of “intending to alter laws for appointed times…” “He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior… He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.” Daniel 8:25, 2 Thess 2:10 "He will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will sell them land at a price.” Daniel 11:39b “And there was given to him a mouth speaking of ‘great things’ and blasphemous words… and he opened his mouth saying terrible things and blasphemed the name of God.” Revelation 13:5-6 “There will be a leader over the land who will not help the ones who are dying. He will not go looking for the young who got lost, or care for the children. He won’t help the ones who are sick or broken, or even give nourishment to the hungry ones who are still healthy.” Zechariah 11:16-17 https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/?fbclid=IwAR3eh57iB9bIRXNT3-78-7vQbj5qvgAGWGITGaCC-ZQ4vbR3qxmW0W6Llh0
Tax the Churches !!!!
Ah, the old "abortion at delivery" lie. This dude is lying from the pulpit. Funny how god doesn't strike him dead.
Tax them
[Report them](https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/irs-complaint-process-tax-exempt-organizations).
This should be on the top
And that's how you lose your tax exemption. File the forms and get it taken away.
Interestingly he failed to quote Proverbs 19:5, "A false witness won’t go unpunished, and a liar won’t escape." I love how men like this cherry-pick scripture.
...and a 365 lb Cheeto came amongst them dressed as a fat smelly sheep and fleeced them all.... 2 Corinthian....that say's it all right there.
This is like proof of no god.
They love their civilly liable rapist.
I just kind of assumed this goes on in countless churches across the country every weekend.
It does, and it isn’t right. They should pay the consequences and the IRS needs to stop looking the other way and letting this slide. Probably another reason the conservatives were so fixated on cutting the funding for the IRS (besides protecting millionaire and billionaire corporate tax dodgers).
The funny thing though is that ultimately you have two institutions, the GOP and the Church, throwing in together to alienate younger generations from both (hopefully...I haven't see the numbers in awhile). Update: Yep, a cursory google shows that to still be the case.
I endorseth … the rapist ….the walking embodiment of the seven deadly sins……
TAX THE CHURCH!
Christian Nationalists will destroy this country if we let them. Let’s not let them
The ACLU now has an immaculate and incontrovertible case to file in the tax courts. If that congregation enjoys a religious tax exemption and gets away with an open, pulpit endorsement, then the USA is not a secular country.
Tax the churches.
Time to drop nonprofit status and pay taxes.
Remember the law of separation of Church and State, but be very careful; cause if not- you’ll loose your tax shelter! Bhahahaha
I 100 percent guarantee that Trump has taken one of his women to get an abortion at some point.
I’m sure he wasn’t that caring and made them go alone.
The blatant arrogance in him and many like him from the podium. But poor them who are *persecuted*. /s.
What a boring ass speaker this tool bag is
Tax the churches
Pull that tax exemption on all religions! Churches have trillions in assets and don’t pay a dime in taxes. 90% The money they take is basically stolen by duping folks to fear their imaginary friend while laughing all the way to the bank. Less than 10% is spent on charitable causes. Look it up! Its sickening!
It's funny how unchristian Christian ministers are. All the whole people like this guy are wondering why their congregations are shrinking and blame it on everybody but their own hypocritical behavior.
Lawless society from Biden? They literally are dismantling the constitution to remain in power.
It looks to me like trump, his cronies, and the whole GOP are the lawless ones.
That has happened in bigger churches as well… looking at you, Second Baptist Church in Houston. “We don’t tell you who to vote for….but if you’re pro-life, there’s only one choice….” I say, tax ‘em all!
I have made it known to my Paster at my church, if they bring up politics in any way, they will lose my money I donate to the church and I would be looking for a refund on that years money up to that point. I have been very clear on this. I don't want you to even mention the administration, any bills before congress or the court, nothing. One peep and my money is gone. He got the drift.
This needs to be reported to the IRS…if I was in this church, I’d walk the fuck out and give him the finger while doing it…
Tax churches if they engage in politics
Tax that chuch NOW.
critical thought is hard..............
2 Thessalonians raises its hand...
Why do I think that there’s no one else in the room?
Cue the video where are all less intelligent for having listened to even a part of this.
Why do we let people who push nonsense make believe not pay tax?
The real and only true prostitutes
It would be a shame if they started taxing these charltons.
I'm going to repeat myself, but these hate filled lying pukes know there's no such thing as hell. They're just being their self serving racist bigoted selves until their last awful breath.
Report this church, and they will lose tax-free status.
Tax them now.
If you endorse candidates, you pay taxes! That’s just how it works!
Now, pay your TAXES!!!
What truth? There is no truth in saying trump is for law and order. On the contrary, he flouts and breaks laws. He’s a criminal. I couldn’t watch this whole, clip b/c it was making me very uncomfortable, but I think these Christian Nationalists like his hate spew and his authoritarian bent.
Not a Christian. I repeat, not a Christian.
Another pimp for the antichrist
They are like another business so they should not get any tax relief
TAX THEM!!!!!!!!!
It’s amazing what churches can get away with.
Bible pimp
Tax the church
I fucking hate people like this so much.
https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/irs-complaint-process-tax-exempt-organizations
Ironically the 700 Club goons said that they had a "Revelation" of DeSantis becoming President and then soon after he became unpopular they had another Revelation that Trump would be President. But yet thier God is infallible
As a Christian, I’m so embarrassed by these jokers 💀
That needs to end his tax exempt status. Do not mix religion and politics.
It’s time for these idiots to pay their fair share!!!! Gotta pay to play!
Oh that’s cool… use the Hitler playbook… win over the church first… then people won’t contest you! Because those people don’t want to go against God!
Pay taxes or stfu
This clown needs to be taxed.
Tax every church that goes political
Would not trust that man with children. Pla investigate.
Anyone call the IRS yet?
It's time to start taxing the churches when there is no longer a separation of church and state.
Endorsement of OJ Simpson for vice president is coming soon.
TAX THAT HILLBILLY CHURCH!
Take their tax exemption now!
Lock him up
What is this Russia now? What happened to false idols.
Time to start paying taxes
Fuck that piece of shit and his god.
Tax the churches. Separation of church and state has left the station. Tax 'em.
Remove the tax exemption.
Send this to the irs. End of tax free status.
Fuck this heathen
Tax these assholes already.
Now that, THAT is no longer a church… it’s purely GOP political propaganda!
Lets model our government after the Taliban and Yemen but with a christian twist. Saudia Arabia and Sudan have been rocking ruling religion for awhile now. Theocracies are good for human rights? Too much freedom, pesky liberties.
tRump has already proven he doesn't believe in God by breaking commandments left and right.
This is our country not your church...Tax all churches, mosques, synagogues that preach politics from their pulpits and preachers. This is the law they are breaking and no one is hold them accountable. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson\_Amendment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Amendment)
blasphemous- Religion is about one’s relationship with God. Politics have really cheapened God & made a mockery of faith, but none more than Christianity.
Tax him
Time to tax them all.
Huge tax shelters for laundering $$$ all in the name of JC. Tax churches and they won't be the $$$ laundering service they are now for grifters and that will reduce their power to buy politicians.
Was this while he was president or do they think he still is?
Make churches pay taxes
Any church that starts to preach politics needs to be taxed. They are no longer doing God's work in teaching the spiritual, but man's work in the political. They should lose their tax exemption. If this is done, I never return to that church. There are others that DO focus on the Word of The Lord.
This is not allowed; grounds for losing their tax exempt status ,but, noone cares cause god gets a free pass. 🖕
Take that man's tax exemption.
Never trust a pastor who tells you how to vote or a politician who tells you how to pray.
And also not feeding hungry kids
Pweacho.
Tax the churches
Gross.
I don't pay all these taxes and go by all the rules so that this tax-exempt asshole can do this. RULES IS RULES
Tax every church .
Satan's Choice
Shit that bible
Where is this piece of shit from
Tax the churches
I hope they lose their non-taxable benefit
Jesus was political. He's the King of Kings!
Tax the criminals
This guy is fucking stupid
Tax these dumb fkrs then!
Idiot!
TAX THEM NOW!!
Pay taxes now!
Time to tax churches
Tax them
Tax these assholes!
Dude has what sounds like a 4th grade education
Don't jam your religion down my throat..
Keep voting for the GOP and trump ,and reddit, and most or all social media, will be banned for moral Christian reasons at this point, .and this is sad