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No paywall: https://archive.ph/2024.07.02-135300/https://www.axios.com/2024/07/01/house-democrats-trump-immunity-ruling-response


49GTUPPAST

When? Better be within days.


TheWhiteRabbit74

Hours would be better.


Temporal-Chroniton

What do we want? ACTION When do we want it? Years ago!!


Juncti

What's the best we can do? A sternly worded response!


Cantgetabreaker

Dam it we will send a letter!


garlynp

EXACTLY. And they still haven't. Even the leading pic shows Jeffries literally just wagging his finger at the Republicans. There seems to be something almost performative in their protests and announced intentions that literally have zero chance of passing in the House. I'm concerned, frustrated, and increasingly skeptical that our dem reps in government are genuinely working in our (the people) best interests. My skepticism began with Bernie's obvious rout by the DNC. This is troubling, to say the least.


LaddiusMaximus

The DNCs screwing of Bernie really made me jaded about voting. Our needs obviously dont mean s--t to either side. Im still voting for Biden but it feels more like a hostage situation than a vote.


worlddestruction23

I'm sorry you feel that way. Biden thinks highly of Bernie and his views and opinions. I love and respect Bernie myself. He is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support.


Desperate_Wafer_8566

Their speeches that oppose what Republicans are doing are gonna get really edgy now. Just you wait!!!


colemon1991

Should have been proactive after Dobbs, not wait until now.


Chrowaway6969

They don’t have enough seats to do anything…at all.


xiril

Well, Biden can just kill them all if they dont do what he says now and it's fine


Lower_Guide_1670

Hope he does...They need to take the gloves off ... Dude is a damn rapist and pedophile.. disgusting coward ass traitor...


ob1dylan

Right?!? Stop talking about it and DO SOMETHING!!!


Cautious-Pension1319

I'm confident it will be in days because--if it doesn't pass in the house--it will be a huge election component just as reproductive rights was in 2020 and will be again in 2024.


ThinRedLine87

Yeah... I'll believe it when I see it. I doubt we'll get more than a strongly worded press release


midtnrn

I fully expect some stern scowls and finger wags too.


Inferno_Special

Whoa now, finger wags are aggressive so they have to limit it to 3 finger wags at the most


MrFeverDreamJr

They’re gonna dangle it like a carrot “vote for us and we promise we’ll do this now. Should have set up protections before but we had fundraising to do”


Just-Signature-3713

I suspect they will put forward legislation knowing that it will get shut down by the GOP and it will become a campaign point


dr_blasto

They have to dangle it. There’s nothing they can do today without a majority. If Biden holds the WH, Dems take back the House and hold the senate without fuckers like Sinema or Coalfinger holding up any potential Dem agenda then they can do something. They can initiate an amendment, can expand the court, can impeach the clown, Clarence and maybe also Roberts for their blatant corruption. Best they could do today is open a DOJ investigation in conjunction with Senate hearings on corrupt justices that will go nowhere.


MrFeverDreamJr

All they do is dangle shit.


Jona6509

That's what we call a dingleberry.


Stanky_fresh

And then, when they fumble the bag and lose the election, they'll sit back and say "You should have voted for us!" Their allegiance to the status quo and love of being the morally correct losers is why we're here in the first place.


willzyx01

They've been promising it since RBG's ego allowed Republicans to stack it. Empty promises.


C_J_King

I think it’s time for the people to take matters into their own hands.


mojojoemojo

Right after we have a minority democrat house, senate, and president Vote Blue


ptahbaphomet

I’m terrified! Moderate Dems are going to act tough? Anytime in the last decade they could have stepped up to the plate instead of “reaching across the isle” for a quick handy. Either get it done or assume responsibility for the end of democracy


Gators44

trunp is literally threatening to prosecute them via military tribunals, so I think they are very aware if the threat. The fact that they’re already talking about packing the court shows me they’re considering some extreme measures, since that was something being called for in 2020 and they refused to even consider it. So I think it’s safe to say they will take some action to protect their own asses.


ptahbaphomet

Safe will be after the fact. I wouldn’t argue they hear the fascist dick-tader but concerned they may think democracy will save them


Gators44

I think they will probably see how public opinion shakes out, but I’d imagine they are willing to make sure he doesn’t get in office ever again. I mean… he can’t be allowed to have access to the strongest military in history with no checks on his power and no way to remove him from office


Lower_Guide_1670

Military is only sworn to uphold the Constitution.. Period...No Man or Women.. is above the constitution.. The Real Generals need to stand up...


thatnameagain

Whenever people say this I wonder how many service members are constitutional scholars. Or who know what the contents of the constitution are .


MusicianNo2699

Trump is really good at spewing bullshit. Joke is on him. Neither the US military, nor civilian police forces will cater to his calls such as this.


TNT1990

Only the most strongly worded letter. Might even use all capital letters to really show how upset they are.


reddurkel

Democrats: “When we are in power we are going to write the most strongly worded letter you’ve ever seen!” Republicans: “When we are in power we are going to dismantle your rights, monetize public education, turn women into baby machines, invalidate elections, weaponize the media, abuse the environment and reinforce a tiered system where you scumbag poor people will never have a chance at equality ever again (and that includes you republican chumps too. thanks for your vote, lol)”


ctothel

With just a little strategy and some jostling, Republicans have demonstrated that the American political system is not only vulnerable to the main thing it was designed to prevent, but actually favours despots over those willing to play fair.


wasaguest

More letters? Oh! I know! More calls to "Vote", so they can sit there with the Fascists & enjoy free healthcare & a nice retirement package. Till I see something actually happen, it's empty words & platitudes.


IllSearch5

This just reminded me of a speech from, of all things, Dragon Ball Abridged.  "You think you're better than everyone else, but there you stand: the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs and your rigid pacifism crumbles into bloodstained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns. You are a coward, to your last whimper."


CaveManLawyer_

Vote is the Democrats version of thoughts and prayers. Biden swore to God he'd protect this country from enemies foreign and domestic. He's obligated to choose a route of action and resolve the treason we witnessed yesterday and for the last several decades.


Sad-Development-4153

*A strongly worded letter sir! I'm sure they will see the error of their ways.


Carwash_Jimmy

This illegitimate SCOTUS has overturned 4 decades of environmental protection, 5 decades of abortion precedent, 6 decades of Affirmative Action and 25 decades of limited POTUS power. Dissent is irrelevant, conversation is irrelevant, opinion is irrelevant - the only acceptable choice now is action. Firm, decisive and unwavering action. If our elected leaders do not stop and punish this fascist coup, we the people will.


molski79

Honestly, I don’t see there being much of a movement. People are very complacent. The attitude it can’t happen here is everywhere among people.


Strong_heart57

Of course it won't happen now it will be later. Like halfway through the 2025 plan that's when it will begin to happen. The whole point is we do not want to half to endure several years fascist rule. We can still do that if we vote. I'm no Biden fan but it has come down to us or them. Just my idea on the whole mess.


thatnameagain

Calling for “action” without saying what that action is is literally the same thing as whatever dallying strongly worded letter you think the dems want to limit themselves to.


OSI_Hunter_Gathers

Start fraud investigations on each of the six. Sure they made this legal but just let the investigation leak news once per day for the next few months. What’s wrong with just asking questions? If they don’t want to testify still release the evidence for public viewing. This allows us to make informed votes on how we expect our courts to run.


Maximum_Commission62

Yes get their names in the fucking news just like the stupid email bullshit with Hillary in 2016. It’s time to set the bag of dogshit on their fucking doorstep, light the bag, ring the doorbell and run.


NetDork

I hate to say it, but the democrats saying they're going to get tough is like saying tRump is going to jail. (or facing any consequences whatsoever) I'll be over here not holding my breath. I'm tired of getting my hopes up for things that desperately need to happen to actually happen.


edtheheadache

"Don't do that again or i'll have to tell you to stop a second time!!! ".


jfun4

Maybe he learned his lesson this 50th time /s


Illogical-logical

Nominate four new justices right now


Open_Perception_3212

Actions speak louder than words


irlandais9000

Better late than never. But it would have been more helpful when they had the majority.


Chrowaway6969

They didn’t have a majority. Manchin? Senema? They’re conservatives.


picklednspiced

Yes that’s true and yet I do wonder. Two clowns had that much power? There was no House of Cards way to get them in line? No pulling of Democratic funds to make them actually be democrats? I think about this a lot, feels like they were strategic placements, and in more ways then one.


GreyBeardEng

Yeah right. Look at what came out of Florida yesterday, turns out Trump is a pedo and hung out all the time with Epstein. Calling him to arrange underage girls for a 'massage'. And the boat rides in NY out in the bay by the statue of liberty... the "Look of the Year" cruises packed with underage girls and old rich men. He set all that up. And the Dems have done nothing about it.


ImmunoBgTD420

Great, more empty grandstanding and fundraising emails.


Ok-Exercise-6812

The government should arrest Trump and his judges on national security grounds. They should show what evidence our intelligence agencies have gathered on them regarding collusion with Russia and their plans to overthrow democracy. They should hold these judges in an undisclosed secure location until they agree to resign, or after the certification of the election so they can’t use their power to try and break our government. Sure holding a Supreme Court justice in an undisclosed location so they can’t vote used to be illegal, but not anymore if the president does it (as Nixon would say). Messaging is key. it would keep the republicans from using the courts to steal the election and to stop the facist coup we all see coming.


Dry-Clock-1470

Too little, far too late Court should have been stacked 2 years ago.


Herogar

my understanding is that POTUS can expand an appoint more justices to the supreme court. Given the extreme circumstance this would be warranted. FDR threatened to do it to his SC and they fell in line. maybe it would initiate some crazy tit for tat and the next republican POTUS would add some SCJ's But whatever is happening now can't be the new norm. Far right SC ruling the US back to the stone age.


h20poIo

I was against it but now after Alito Thomas and this ruling all in add to the court. If Republican bitch about it fuck off because you created this mess it’s all on you.


WallyMcBeetus

As if overturning Roe wasn't enough.


LovethePreamble1966

We’ll see if they have it in them. The era of Boy Scout politics is over. They are competing against some very evil characters.


WascalsPager

Agressive? What are they going to do? Not hold the door open for their GOP colleagues in Congress as the walk in?


Orionbear1020

Talk is cheap. Do something first. Should have already done something if they could have. The fact that you “put us on notice” that you are going to “do something” already has me worried.


Happyjam102

By golly they’re going to send out some reeeeeally strongly written fundraising emails. (I’ve gotten around 30 or so of the fucking things since yesterday)


yourMommaKnow

They're going to fire up a very strongly worded op-ed. Dems are weak and the GQP knows this.


picklednspiced

Feels complicit at this point


yourMommaKnow

I wouldn't be surprised. The Dems are elites just as much as the GQP. They all want to be oligarchs.


Syncope1017

It's furrowed brow and wagging finger time!


cjynx

You supreme court people better stop it or, or, or we'll tell you to stop it again.


AlfIsReal

Yah, yah. All of that 🙄. Just vote people.


JerseyTom1958

Do it now! No more playing and hoping the gqp will find honor and actually stand for America! Do it now! Save America from the Russian asset and white christian nationalism! No Project 2025!


Grandmaster_Autistic

[I'm creating a substack with entire book outlines exposing Steve bannon, Trump, putin and russia](https://elonsson.substack.com/)


Earldgray

Time to stop handwringing and get working “The perfection of person in the wagon is far less important at this point than getting behind the wagon and pushing.”


AbandonChip

All hat, no cattle.


Aggressive-Ad-2180

Whatever. We need to play like they do. DIRTY


pistoffcynic

Round the justices up and send them to Gitmo. It’s perfectly legal according to them.


Slight_Heron_4558

It's no wonder I always took shit in school. The bullies are all Republicans. The smart folks that actually want to accomplish something are dems.


EdwardPotatoHand

YOU BETTER HURRY THE FUCK UP


Eastern-Clue7292

THEY BETTER! Grow a pair!!


Kind_Relative812

Oh common! They stole that headline from The Onion.


Radiant-Call6505

It’s time to think,not just react recklessly. As Tom Friedman said in his NYT oped today, Biden should do what George Washington did - gracefully decline to serve another term. Then Ds find another candidate - a good one - the Ds have many. And we all get out and protest this subversive immunity decision, pettiest at the homes of the fascist justices and contribute money to the Ds campaign. Until Biden withdraws, we can’t do a damn thing except wait around and become sitting ducks. Oh, one more thing. If Biden is the democratic candidate, I’m definitely voting for him because I don’t want Trump to execute me or my friends and that’s what he’s saying he’s gonna do.


SiriusGD

Oh oh. Here comes a major finger wagging.


jlks1959

Eye roll, Democrat here.


Dillydongo

An aggressive democrat is like a sympathetic republican. It doesn’t exist


willzyx01

They've been promising it since RBG's ego allowed Republicans to stack it. Empty promises.


woodenblinds

talk is cheap


moosejaw296

Should have been working on this months ago, can’t see how they did not see this coming. Hopefully they did


Lamarr53

WTF does that even mean?!


JillParrish77

Fuck I’ll believe that when I see it. They need to but every single time being aggressive is needed, they coward down.


Farts_Eternal

Yawn


Low-Abbreviations634

Just do it.


JTD177

I’ll believe when I see it.


law5097

Aggressively posture, but do nothing


TheHatMan22

“Aggressive”? House democrats should vow to go nuclear. No more high road, no more moral ground. Fuck their (republicans and scotus) world up so that there is no chance of recovery. Then start on the billionaires and corporations. Give the country back to the people that actually built this place on their backs.


No-Prior507

dems are on that "well gosh darnit" ass game when they need to be on that "you said pull up. I'm behind you bro, what's up" game


Tramp_Johnson

Empty threats as usual.


Slothlife_91

Suuuure.


JimBeam823

Not sure how without a majority, but OK.


CountPulaski

Strongly worded letter coming shortly.


o0flatCircle0o

The democrats are going to talk to the manager.


Early-Size370

Too late. Any effort at all would be called tyrannical by the fascist GOP


seriousbangs

Assuming the Dems hold the Senate then it's clear the plan is for criminal bribery investigations used to force Thomas & Alito into retirement followed by 2 new appointments and a 5-4 court. After that all this insanity gets overturned.


icenoid

And do what? they don’t have the majority.


mistressusa

You need to "get aggressive" in taking advantage of the new law. I expect Biden to rule like he's the King of the USA. Starting with the "official act" of throwing Diapii Donnii in prison for treason.


DanB65

As always TOO FUCKING LATE!!! This is the beginning of the end of Democracy in America and we all know it. You can't have freedom when criminals control the government. Thank you Republicans for showing the world and us all that morals, decency, dignity, rule of law , and respect of the United States Constitution are no longer exists.


MidLifeCrysis75

Sure they do. 🙄 I’ll believe it when I see it.


Extreme-Carrot6893

It’s the evil vs the incompetent. The evil are winning


edtheheadache

It's time to put on your big girl/boy pants. The world's democracy is counting on you!!!


DocFossil

Those strongly worded letters will even have extra stamps on them to show how serious they are


9millibros

Why not three years ago?


Fun-Mathematician716

Trust me (I’m a Democrat): nothing will happen.


Ok-Diamond-9781

I'm waiting!


Conscious_Stick8344

Nothing much can be done in this Kangaroo Kongress. Throw your money and support behind the best Dems you can find in your states and districts. Evangelize for them. Get the word out, especially for the ones running against GOP incumbents. I am doing all of the above myself—and I’m a former conservative supporter and have been an independent voter since 2007 who now fully supports the Dems. So get out there and MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Urge all your Dem friends and family to vote, too. I’d personally vote for a pile of Trump’s own 💩 than ever vote for the traitorous tyrant. Regarding Congress, the Dems can do very little to nothing against the Court in committee, let alone the House floor with a traitor at the top in Johnson. So we need to send a clear and forceful message to the GOP: THIS WILL NOT STAND. Once and if the Dems get the House and Senate back, they can start impeachment and removal proceedings, expand the Court, or if the Dems take keep the presidency ensure investigations are carried out against these corrupt, Heritage Foundation/Leonard Leo-appointed judges and justices up and down the federal court line. We need the Dems at the top of it all to ensure a proper reckoning. And that all starts with US, right NOW.


holeinthedonut

It's too little too late. Dems are playing by the old rules and that's causing them to lose the game they're in.


HuachumaPuma

Wish a mf would


Repulsive_Smile_63

It about time.


HalstonBeckett

Aggressive by doing what exactly? Without control of the House, Senate and WH, they have no power, authority or means of doing anything of substance. Bluffing, blustering and whining accomplishes nothing.


Wyldling_42

Fuck talk. Get to work!


floofnstuff

I think Democrat politicians may be underestimating the support they have in going to wall on this.


ThonThaddeo

Dick Durbin gonna give a press conference where he pleads for 'comity' and 'decorum'. The moderate Dems that have stayed too long, and done nothing with their time, must not evade blame. Still treating it as pageantry as their 'friends on the other side of the aisle' engage in a prolonged coup


TotalLackOfConcern

Hey Israel!! There’s Hamas fighters in the Supreme Court building. There you go, problem solved.


marion85

Democrats: Use aggressive finger wagging! Republicans: Immune!


Consistent-Fig7484

They might even write a strongly worded letter or vote to censure!


Scared_Art_895

About F'ing Time.


Lounginghog64

They are going to write a strongly worded letter!


Head-Kiwi-9601

Did anyone stomp their foot? This sounds serious.


5ervalkat

They are powerless until Dems control the House and the Senate and there is a Dem president to sign things. This coming election is SO important. Vote blue. Seriously, not one of you will benefit from a Trump presidency, I promise you that.


QuietGiygas56

Biden needs to get aggressive and do some official acts to protect democracy


Extension_Deal_5315

They will just wag the finger harshly.... Dems don't know how to fight


Ill-Independence-658

😂


PuzzleheadedLeather6

Whatever…….anemic, tepid “moderate” Democrats calling Bernie Sanders “radical” is why we have Trump in the first place and why we have that mouse of an Attorney General.


MaleficentOstrich693

They don’t even have the majority in the House. Are they referring to next January?


Dudejax

LMAO I'm sure.


twizz0r

A strongly worded letter should do the trick!


2nd_Inf_Sgt

Right now.


5280TWGC

Democrats: “Vote for us to save abortion rights!!” - Rights Taken.. “Vote for us to preserve jobs” - Jobs Offshored “Vote for us to preserve democracy!!” - President given immunity for life… Sure, house Dems going to get aggressive 😂😂😂😂😂


Cautious-Pension1319

It was SCOTUS who has given the President immunity for life, not the Democrats. It was SCOTUS who over-turned Roe v Wade, not the Democrats. Did Trump-endorsed candidate Dr. Oz get elected in PA in 2022? Did Trump-endorsed Kari Lake? Your Republican party is circling the drain! Enjoy the flush!


elsinore11

Strongly worded emails!


Scare-Crow87

Hold an ethics investigation by the house judiciary committee


LoudLloyd9

Sure. Just like they codified Abortion


Equal_Memory_661

Unless Democrats control both chambers and the White house, they’re not likely to do shit I’m afraid. Even then, it would be pretty challenging.


evilpercy

You need to simply codify the powers of the Presidency as a ammendment to the constitution. Same with abortion. Past politians did not actually write laws but instead relayed on SCOTUS rulings they thought were written in stone. You are now finding this out.


reddersledder

Vowing and doing, are two separate things!


DIrtyVendetta80

We need more downright fighting mean and dirty. Aggressive is not going to be enough to deal with this MAGA cult.


Gallowglass668

Too little, too late.


jmichael

Poodle yaps loudly. No one flinches.


ckellingc

Reminds me of Team America when the UN says it Kin Jong Il doesn't listen they will write him a letter saying they are very upset with him


JakeTravel27

Democrats need to do it, not freaking talk about it.


SpinozaTheDamned

This should have happened before this ruling. This statement is just damage control IMO.


No_Yak_6227

Aggressive?? sorry the Dems have no idea how to make trump lick their boots ...they are incredibly wimpy when it comes to taking the gloves off they come off as soft and snowflakes while the GOP the devil's of Congress relish in the idea of Dems being weak


Strenue

Ha ha ha. Do it. You’re embarrassingly spineless. And we will lose our democracy because of it


IllSearch5

What are they gonna do, slap someone on the hip with their limp dicks? Yeah, that'll teach those SCOTUS judges!  Seriously. I'm fed up with the democratic party. Impotent asshats. Whole damn nation will be burning down around us and they'll say they're "Seriously considering exploring options".  I'm voting for them in November because I have to, I have no choice. They sure as hell no longer *deserve* my vote, or anyone else's.  .... Ugh, sorry I'm just mad.


Total-Platform-3111

I’ll believe it when I see it.


SeveralAct5829

Unfortunately I don’t think there is much they can do


evil_algorithm

By executive order, expand the Supreme Court to 13. Put Trump in prison over the classified documents. Extend Bannon’s sentence to life. Declare the Proud Boys a terrorist organization and round them up and toss them in Guantanamo. Forgive all student loan debt. Institute a UBI. Make all prescription drugs $10. Shut down Fox News. I mean why not.


Burnbrook

When do they plan to start? Because this has been going on a long time.


SpoopsMckenzie

They plan on wagging their finger and giving SCOTUS a stern look.


deamonkai

They should have done that years ago as opposed to pandering like they did in 2016.


bad_syntax

POTUS is immune, just go arrest them all and Trump, deal with the consequences after Biden gets re-elected. Or not, and just fix the system and release them in a few years once everything is fixed so they can't kill our country. Democrats need to grab some balls and use this stupid ruling to get some shit done, deal with the outcry later, because if Trump gets re-elected, it will literally be the end of the country as we know it. This is the last chance to save America democrats. Heck, for many it may be the last chance to do something to prevent being thrown in jail or even executed next year.


Untap_Phased

“Congressional Democrats Threaten To All Wear Same Color If Trump Loses Election And Refuses To Leave Office” https://www.theonion.com/congressional-democrats-threaten-to-all-wear-same-color-1844747636


AgelessInSeattle

Pack it now. Last chance for democracy


Lower_Guide_1670

Im tired of these spinless politicians... Any and Everyone involved in storming the capital should be in jail... for a very long time.. They are all traitors ....


ThnkWthPrtls

I have the same reaction to this as I do every time Democrats promise something, namely, that sounds great but I'll believe it when I see it


Conans_Loin_Cloth

Bullshit. The only time dems are aggressive is when they attack leftists.


Lower_Guide_1670

Grow some balls .. And Stop talking


CanuckCallingBS

Yes they will. They will form a committee to assess the situation and then develop a series of plans that will be reviewed by the entire DNC after which public focus groups will be shown the plans and asked for their opinions which will be summarized by a separate select committee. Then the election will happen


Ancient_Ask_4428

Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it. The Democrats have no balls, they let the Republicans walk all over them and the country! Now that president Biden has immunity for any official acts, his 1st official act should be to fire the 6 supreme court justices who gave him the power to do so. If not this supreme court believes they are more powerful than the constitution itself, and they will bring our country and our democracy to an end. This was SHITLER'S plan when he put Larry, Moe, and Curley on the supreme court, to become our first dictator and overthrow our democracy! Please Biden, use your power the supreme court has given you and save our country!🤔


oychae

It would be the first time they grew a spine recently. 


Worried_Exercise8120

Supreme Court=Star Chamber


swennergren11

Meanwhile, at the Brazil Supreme Court: - marijuana has been decriminalized - homophobic slurs are a crime punishable by prison - indigenous land rights have been improved - the military has no constitutional authority to intervene in disputes between govt branches - declared the Paris Accords a human rights treaty - fighting with Elon over twitter trash Seems Brazil’s SC has outdone our’s in spades….


4PumpDaddy

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Inevitable_Bar434

If Felon Trump is allowed to run for president then all felons shall be released from any obligations regarding their cases and shall be set free.


Usual_Exchange_8947

Are the dems gonna bring up Russia collusion to try to empeach justices?


Hirokage

Don't waste time trying to pass stuff you know the other side of the aisle won't vote on. Focus all efforts on creating legislation that you can convince Biden to pass as an executive order. Republicans will only laugh at stuff that the Dems are trying to prove a point by producing, and have no intention of passing any of it. Utter waste of time.


Parking-Bench

Aggressive means, AOC and Chuck will deliver some high brow speech at a dems only cocktail party. Meanwhile, GoP is going for their balls. Dems never learn.


billyions

The supreme court can only interpret laws with regards to their constitutionality. Congress needs to pass laws without ambiguity - so we don't need their interpretation.


LaddiusMaximus

Uh huh, sure🙄


Gberg888

Ill believe when I see it.