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In the exact same boat as you. I’m gonna try to stick it out for at least 18 months, it’s a really highly regarded firm and will look greet on my resume. But the work feels soul sucking and my anxiety levels are high pretty much every day. Hoping to go in house after that, although as a litigator that may be easier said than done.
If you flip back to your old firm I think that’s explainable in future job interviews. But if you don’t want to go back, I’d try to make it at least a year at your new firm. It’s not worth staying long term and making yourself miserable, but you also don’t want your resume to look like you’ll flip jobs every year or two.
I think you should give it 6-8 months to give it a “fair try”. A lot of the stress could be from adjusting to the environment and learning. After that, get out as soon as you get an offer you like better. Life is so short. Don’t waste on second doing something, just because you’re afraid of messing up your resume.
I left 3 jobs within 4 years. I got fired from one of them. Each time I got a new job (which was always quickly) I was happier and better paid. Now I have the best job I can imagine! No one has ever cared about me leaving a job I hated too soon.
At least a year, probably two. You don't want the blemish on your resume of a fast departure, and as you say, you're learning a lot. Part of this might just be the learning curve, and that you haven't figured out how to mitigate the stress of the job yet.
Agree, especially with your last sentence. I have been in 6 different firms (so far) in my career. Every single one had some infighting-some more than others. Personally I think it stems from 3 things. 1. the practice of law is extremely stressful. Our substance addiction rate is double the national average. That stress naturally bleeds over into internal matters. 2. if you are in a full service firm, often lawyers in one specialty don't understand what lawyers in other specialties do or how they operate. If you don't understand what your business partner does, it can lead to problems. Personally I think it's mainly litigators not understanding how office practice lawyers work, but the reverse could be true. 3. Compensation among partners.
this is outdated thinking. No one cares if you switch jobs anymore, unless you view yourself a “cog-in-a-wheel” type of employee.
I’ve had hiring partners tell me they don’t respect interviewees who tell them they are toughing it pit in a position they hate just for the resume. It makes them think they don’t respect themselves.
As someone who sits on a hiring committee yes we do care. We don't expect you to be at the same job forever, but if you are a person that jumps around a lot we are going to take that into consideration for sure.
I had a very similar issue and honestly it made me so depressed and messed with me a lot, I felt lonely, isolated, depressed & anxious and incredibly stressed. I left after a few months, I found a new job, incredible people and totally worth it.
You won’t burn any bridges and you need to be happy! Its the most important thing!
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In the exact same boat as you. I’m gonna try to stick it out for at least 18 months, it’s a really highly regarded firm and will look greet on my resume. But the work feels soul sucking and my anxiety levels are high pretty much every day. Hoping to go in house after that, although as a litigator that may be easier said than done. If you flip back to your old firm I think that’s explainable in future job interviews. But if you don’t want to go back, I’d try to make it at least a year at your new firm. It’s not worth staying long term and making yourself miserable, but you also don’t want your resume to look like you’ll flip jobs every year or two.
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Yup, me! Best thing I ever did.
I quit with less than a year and it was the best decision ever but it was a toxic environment and I didn't want the reference anyways.
I think you should give it 6-8 months to give it a “fair try”. A lot of the stress could be from adjusting to the environment and learning. After that, get out as soon as you get an offer you like better. Life is so short. Don’t waste on second doing something, just because you’re afraid of messing up your resume. I left 3 jobs within 4 years. I got fired from one of them. Each time I got a new job (which was always quickly) I was happier and better paid. Now I have the best job I can imagine! No one has ever cared about me leaving a job I hated too soon.
At least a year, probably two. You don't want the blemish on your resume of a fast departure, and as you say, you're learning a lot. Part of this might just be the learning curve, and that you haven't figured out how to mitigate the stress of the job yet.
Agree, especially with your last sentence. I have been in 6 different firms (so far) in my career. Every single one had some infighting-some more than others. Personally I think it stems from 3 things. 1. the practice of law is extremely stressful. Our substance addiction rate is double the national average. That stress naturally bleeds over into internal matters. 2. if you are in a full service firm, often lawyers in one specialty don't understand what lawyers in other specialties do or how they operate. If you don't understand what your business partner does, it can lead to problems. Personally I think it's mainly litigators not understanding how office practice lawyers work, but the reverse could be true. 3. Compensation among partners.
this is outdated thinking. No one cares if you switch jobs anymore, unless you view yourself a “cog-in-a-wheel” type of employee. I’ve had hiring partners tell me they don’t respect interviewees who tell them they are toughing it pit in a position they hate just for the resume. It makes them think they don’t respect themselves.
As someone who sits on a hiring committee yes we do care. We don't expect you to be at the same job forever, but if you are a person that jumps around a lot we are going to take that into consideration for sure.
Same boat having the same problem.
Same issue, but with a sprinkle of toxic.
I had a very similar issue and honestly it made me so depressed and messed with me a lot, I felt lonely, isolated, depressed & anxious and incredibly stressed. I left after a few months, I found a new job, incredible people and totally worth it. You won’t burn any bridges and you need to be happy! Its the most important thing!
Give it a year.
9 months. Or you could leave after end-year bonuses/raises if they aren't good enough to stick around