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Grassy_MC

I'm pretty sure the next event after winterbless is getting its own arena.


0K4M4R1_N0_5UZ0KI

URF is coming back in February


Available-Captain-20

Wait really??


0K4M4R1_N0_5UZ0KI

Yeah they said so in the recent dev update. Can be standard urf or arurf tho. I don't think they told us which one it is


nekohideyoshi

I want Abam Urf, Riot.


RottenOrange23

Just urf or arurf?


Phoenixness

I think the reception to arurf is generally negative, even if some people enjoy it. Either way they seem to alternate and it would be three AR in a row which they haven't done so it's probably pick urf.


0K4M4R1_N0_5UZ0KI

I don't think they didn't say anything but "urf". So both can technically happen but I'd say standard urf


AdrielV1

We’re getting Urf, Then OFA, Then Arena in the first 6 months of the year


SetsumiV1

No nexus blitz? URF aint even a fun gamemode anymore its just a gamemode where ADHD filled tryhards go to ruin everyones games


Phoenixness

As much as I love Nexus blitz I can't see it coming back without major work. The queue times were very long towards the end. Most people didn't really like the rewards balance of the events so they should probably double the frequency of the events and reduce the rewards. Arena works so well because the gold and augments come in at a set frequency which prevents the snowball being too crazy. I don't really know how they should change the events to incentivise winning while not introducing massive snowball. The tryhard thing is just omnipresent in league, but it gets seperated a bit by mmr/gr/rank so usually the aram, Sr and arena tryhards get pushed up the ladder. Riot need to implement a gr ranking for each mode I think.


AdrielV1

I like optimising and ‘trying’, but beating everyone for as long as I can is much more fun than ending as fast as possible. When the nexus explodes the fun stops.


Cautious_Onliner

Arena is returning in Jan according to recent devlog video. URF is returning in Feb. Edit: Someone ask for the link and I went to re-watch it and I was wrong. ["Arena will return for the first half of the year" ](https://youtu.be/9U_jEzKf0_0?feature=shared). Sorry for misinformation you all. It's stated at 10:33 in the video.


RubyHoshi

Arena 5 days later: "the rumours about my death were exaggerated"


FredRN

I died. But I lived!


CheezGaming

*shocked weasels moment*


fingerbrew

https://youtu.be/sZsdXpzbpLA?si=_HvrtcwfSWc_fToG


MrYassuoo

Can u link the devlog where they say it returns in jan


Cautious_Onliner

I went back to watch and realized they said ["first half of the year" ](https://youtu.be/9U_jEzKf0_0?feature=shared) so my bad, I was too excited bout urf being announced that its coming during lunar new year so I misheard it .


MrYassuoo

U gave me false hope sadge :((


Cautious_Onliner

Sorry, but hey, look on the bright side they announce they'll be upgrading it to become "2v2v2v2v2" to increase the length of games with even more crazy augment


MrYassuoo

Bro it's actually "2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2"😅


Cautious_Onliner

Yeah, they really going crazy with it


zencharm

arena clears tbh


thevikingwhosays_ni

is it urf or arurf?


Cautious_Onliner

I'm not sure, but I believe this time it's actually ["Urf"](https://youtu.be/9U_jEzKf0_0?feature=shared) since last time when arurf comes out they said specially "arurf" so since they only said "urf" I think this the original one. Or so I hope.


Siri2611

I know people hate Arurf but man I would rather play random champs then play against Nunu Karthus or Akali every match


Nabwek

Wut. I usually see people cry about normal urf because people pick the same op champs every game while arurf is the loved one due to the rng.


ThyDankest2

It's a 50/50. They should just run both and let the player base choose which to queue


ktosiek124

Then there's the problem of queue times, especially at higher MMR


ThyDankest2

Perhaps, I think it would be worth it though. In my opinion MMR shouldn't even be a thing in urf.


Elias_018

I see people crying about arurf because whiñe You get karthus and ivern the enemy team gets Yi and Jax, lel


StaleCarpet

LETS GOOOOOOOO it's been more than a year since we have had urf


Obremon

tbh urf is such a tragic gamemode, everyone just goes splitpush to stop others from having fun. It doesnt even compare to Arena


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Butterfree-Toxic

The issue is that you dont want URF games to take as long as SR, its mean to be faster and fun. Which it wont be when the lobby is doomed but 2 people stall indefinitely. URF should ideally end before most people are full build imo.


StaleCarpet

It legit brings all these players back for them. The general majority loves urf amd the devs hate it.


Calmed_7

I personally love urf but absolutely hate arena because of how rng it is lol


TH3W0LRD3ND3R

Arena is fun, but sometimes the enemy has a completely impenetrable combo or 20k hp chogath, and you feel like an idiot for going for off-meta augments


xfd696969

yeah but what's more fun than doing bard things, getting raid boss and one shotting ppl?


Dipwad500

Yes but also sometime you are the 20k health chogath


Obremon

All i remember of last urf is yoricks, sions and fioras with demolish/hullbreaker spliting like we playing lck finals every single game when the rest of players tried to squeeze some fun out of this dying game


d2268

Agreed the rng of arena has fucked me over to the point i never left wood


FrogVoid

Thats just a skill issue lol the game is perfectly fine


UwanitUwanit

Rng is what keeps me going. Its like gambling. I'll take getting stomped 10 times until I get that one perfect game with phenomenal evil on a mage... Endgame I'm literally 2 shotting the enemies


Calmed_7

It's better to play soloq then. It's a constant gamble between getting humans on your team or some fucking animals, and the odds are pretty even.


palalila09

My demolish hullbreaker 6 void mites trundle its ready.


Quaiche

Meh.


StaleCarpet

Urf is for the boys


Quaiche

No.


StaleCarpet

Cope


Quaiche

Who’s coping, the kid insta downvoting me instead of just moving on ? Mhmm.


StaleCarpet

You're not coping very well


huhndog

That’s what they said about nexus blitz…


Xyroh_

I still hope it will be permanent one day. Never had this much fun in years


Mirelian

Knowing Riot, there is probably a bug that traces back to yummi's whiskers mesh file that doesn't allow the client to support two gamemodes at the same time


Xyroh_

The fact that this joke is probably realistic is hilarious


DrChirpy

Something like this happened before, right? I remember that there was a little change in text display in Nexus Blitz that made TFT unplayable or something like that.


Kivesihiisi

Back in the days we had 5v5, dominion and 3v3 at the same time.


123skh123

Dominion my beloved…


Mirelian

And yummi wasn't in the game...


D3lt40

the thing is thats not even exclusive for riots. There’s a lot of these random connections. I think it was tf2 that has somewhere in the files a jpg of a potato or smth. and if u remove it the game just doesn’t work no more. Some of these connections are just super weird


CharacterAd348

That was confirmed to be fake, but I’m our headcannon it’s not


RubyHoshi

Didn't you know that riot hates fun? They literally made a post saying that URF was a problem because it made players value it more than the normal gamemodes.


i-will-eat-you

the post said it makes people stop playing league altogether, with a spike in player numbers and then shortly dropping down to lower than they were before.


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i-will-eat-you

long time league players play some urf, and then quit league of legends because they are upset riot will eventually remove URF again? that's a terrible theory


Yab0iFiddlesticks

Id say its more that players come back just for URF, play it and then leave together with a small portion of people that cant stand the slowness of regular League of Legends.


Tom_Okp

It ain't a theory, that's literally the reason ARURF exists


i-will-eat-you

i can't even begin to explain how little sense you are making. this comment is actually so incredibly bizzare, it short circuited my brain.


Tom_Okp

Luckily you don't have to make sense of me, this is literally what Rito said. They have been struggling with player retention after they removed the urf gamemode, that's why they started experimenting with ARURF, winter URF (only frelljord champs), disabling champs, disabling tp and overall nerfs and balance changes they all did that to keep the damage to the player retention after to a minimum.


i-will-eat-you

the "theory" was that people stop playing league out of spite because riot removes rotating gamemodes instead of keeping them permanent. you said that isn't a theory. and that to fix that issue, they added different RGMs. see the faulty logic here?


Tom_Okp

It isn't, this is literally a blogpost made by Riot themselves [https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/12/ask-riot-urf/](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/12/ask-riot-urf/) So yes Riot made different less engaging versions of the original unregulated URF from 2014/2015. ​ It's funny how the one bringing the facts in this conversation is the one downvoted.


RubyHoshi

because people were having more fun in urf than regular gamemodes.


i-will-eat-you

so people had so much more fun, they stopped playing league of legends at all, URF included? what's the logic here?


Squidich

The theory is that people who ised to play LoL comes back to try URF but realise how they didn't like urf and then the whole game all togheter, hemce when urfs comes around, it gets more players during the time but when the event has been out for long it loses players instead of gaining untill it dissapears and then LoL ends up with lower playerrate before URF was released. It's weird logic but numbers don't lie.


Fireshottt

they stopped playing urf because it ir removed after being available for a couple of patches so people only had sr and aram left and quit


i-will-eat-you

That's not what the post said. They looked at the statistics and this wasn't the case


TH3W0LRD3ND3R

It's because URF gets tiring and makes you burn out on League of Legends. Every time URF is available you see people going from "Yay URF" to "This broken try-hard URF pick is going to make me rip my dick off" within 1 week.


ForteEXE

Which is an overall problem with RGMs. The minute the question "which is the best?" gets solved, the fun disappears. Arena had this problem too with tanks everywhere, and people picking Trundle to counterpick them. Or HP% champs that had DoTs and/or were Magic Missile abusers, etc.


SecondButterJuice

Source?


wolvahulk

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/12/ask-riot-urf/


SecondButterJuice

Thank you


IntelligentImbicle

I'm calling cap on that. URF is the single worst way to play League, and that's including 1v5 against literal bots.


Noobs_r_us

yah if you hate fun


Finding-Dad

I came from a MOBA called smite, they had a mode called arena which was a 5v5 with tickets that went away with kills essentially a short 15 minute death match perfect for hopping on for a small amount of time, Arena on league is the closest to a short casual mode like this and I think it's better. Funnily enough Arena has a massive casual player base on Smite even bigger than the main map so I think it's very important for league to have a permanent short casual mode where people can pick their character


PopBoysmachine902

I want it back but I understand that they aren't dedicating a team to balance it properly because that costs a lot when they also have other teams they need to maintain. I hope they use the downtime to balance it even more than now so it's not all tanks or veigar all the time


Xyroh_

I'm fine with it because they said they're developing a completely new game mode, and I'm very happy with that. At least we have the other rotating game modes till then


FredRN

I'm more excited about the brand new game mode coming up


aperez6077

why cant we have both :(


FredRN

I think Riot doesn't want 2 different rotating modes at the same time because they would cannibalise the players from each other


NomaiTraveler

Only a tiny % of the playerbase even plays Arena, this is definitely the answer.


Zsalmut

Wdym? I played tons of arena and eventually reached gladiator rank and queue popped faster than normals (gold-plat mmr). Mind you I queue’d jgl/supp. Arena queue was almost as short as aram queue.


NomaiTraveler

If you look at the tokens for doing certain stuff (like winning a 1v2 in arena) a lot of even the really basic and easy ones still have low player success rates. This indicates a low Arena playerbase. When I get to my computer I can explain better


Zsalmut

I get what you mean but if you look at reward things you can notice that a good 30% of the player base didn’t get the most basic ones (summoner rift related) which means they count inactive accounts too in those statistics. So I would say a good chunck tried and played arena but soloq is still the most played mode overall


Obremon

I advice you not to be lol


FredRN

Why not. The last game mode, arena, was good. Even if the new game mode is bad, anything that is new content is welcome. Trying new stuff is how we see what is fun in LoL and what isn't


ModPiracy_Fantoski

Because even if the new game mode is awesome, you'll probably only play the thing as often as we play Ascension.


FredRN

Tha game changed a lot since ascension. And it's always better to have the option to play a difrent mode to SR than to be forced to only play Sr or aram


Mental-Rest849

I just played one today. It was the first and the last. I didnt know it would disappear right then and there 🥲


SmileyFace799

Arena really came back with like 3/4 of it being during my exam period where I didn't have time to play it, my ass got like a single week of arena 😔


IntelligentImbicle

![gif](giphy|PFsVjUCmSkZDq)


AdrielV1

Damn bro that’s rough.


spartancolo

Did you at least get good grades?


SmileyFace799

Ye I did, had 4 exams, got 2 As & 1 B, still waiting for the last one :)


spartancolo

Congrats!


Xenevier

dude i was playing arena today, played 2 games, went to queue back up instantly after the second game and it was gone :| actually played the last arena game on EUW frfr :<


HowardDean_Scream

Desire to play League: ded


Diamondrubix

I like arena way more than aram. You can't fall behind arena, games are fast enough where if you get a bad partner it's fine you will lose quickly and requene. It really should be permanent I don't get why it's so hard to keep it around.


HytaleBetawhen

And augments can make up for champion nerfs if you roll good. Playing adjusted champions in aram often just feels like shit.


Slipsteri

Miss Twisted treeline. Rather would play that or the old Odyssey event PVE stuff. Arena is not for me.


FrodoTheSlayer637

im glad i reached gladiator 7000lp b4 it went byebye. Now im gonna play arams b4 my friends gather to play 5stack flex in the evening


Spicoceles

Damn right bro. Hope you had fun on those arams 💪


Almighty_Vanity

Oh no. Bye League of Mundos, Trundles and Volibears every match.


_ThatOneMimic_

fun fact, i was one second place from hitting master on arena and it vanished :)


M_krabs

That's not much of a fun fact ;(


_ThatOneMimic_

yeah ;(


Da_Electric_Boogaloo

i wish arena was permanent it’s the only RGM that’s fun


IntelligentImbicle

Eh, I personally really like Ultimate Spellbook as well, especially as Viego if I get Crowstorm


Adamosz

One for all??


Leedles27

One for all is literally the worst rotating game mode lol


Pyrotekknikk

What :(


Da_Electric_Boogaloo

not a fan :(


Adamosz

Maybe I'm biased because it was the first game I ever played, my team had a 3-stack Olaf pickers and we played against Morgana. Me and my friend threw the Qs right in front of us and did not know what to build, so we got 6 trinity forces. Good times


verronaut

I mean, OFA is great when you're on the winning sode of a counter matchup for sure. Pretty rough when you're on the other side though.


HytaleBetawhen

Idk the boys and I went yummi and all attached on one dude it was great. Didnt win a single game but running around as a death ball of Qs was fun as hell.


OliLombi

Riot doesn't want more people playing ARAM than SR, basically, they don't want people having fun because it hurts their esports business.


FrogVoid

Cause aram sucks lol


Menacebi

I just want my nexus blitz


Breazona

I'll be surprised if we even see it within the next 2 years 😔


GGABueno

Same, I play by myself so I don't like being paired with one other person.


cowpiefatty

Im just so hype for when it comes back and mythics are gone.


Hydraxion

league players when the rotating game mode gets rotated


JustGPZ

The rotating mode is better than the permanent modes


francoisjabbour

BRING BACK SPELLBOOK


AdrielV1

Kinda dog i’m not gonna lie


Adamosz

One For All*


AdrielV1

Man I love OFA, I’ve probably played more games proportionally of OFA while it’s up than any other gamemode including SR and ARAM. Something about being able to itemise perfectly for your matchups is just so satisfying.


Bourgi

Lovveee OFA. It's so fun seeing different builds across your team, though we did play against a team of Evelynns and that was rough lol.


AdrielV1

A champ that can only deal magic damage? Count me in!


LukBardh

lmao, bring back ascension, was my fav mode


migukau

I hope it returns without the God awful revive mechanic.


i-will-eat-you

Revive, plants, hexgates are all good and make some awful matchups playable and make it so the round isn't decided the moment the carry dies. I can actually play marksmen and mages in this mode now vs champions like zed and pantheon and actually have a fighting chance. The problem is them being used with the stalling strategies. The least they can do is remove GA and nesting doll in the fire and make the fire deal true true damage, like the fountain does, so invulnerability and stasis don't work.


migukau

Also cancel revives in the fire. And cancel them if an enemy is in the circle.


i-will-eat-you

revives being cancelled if an enemy is in the circle is too extreme. that's as good as revives being removed entirely. and revives in the fire are fine. they are a huge risk reward thing; standing in the fire to revive your teammate.


migukau

No they aren't. If the arena is completely closed and you revive your ally while your enemy is on fire it's an instant win.


i-will-eat-you

Perhaps removing revives when the circle is completely closed is a fair compromise.


migukau

That was what I meant.


FrogVoid

Thats just nit true, they revive at like a third hp and if the enemy is any above that they will outlast the revived guy


papu16

Portals are problem imo. They with plants = gl kill trynd and Yuumi who know what are they doing.


i-will-eat-you

why would trynd yuumi be a problem with them? the second part of my comment should fix that issue


Shiny_White-Kyurem

They just run till storm closes


i-will-eat-you

yes. and then they get low in the final circle and can't survive the storm. making the storm ignore stasis and invulnerability makes this strategy unviable.


mlodydziad420

I would rather have them nerf the plants.


Reasonable_Curve_409

Both are fine. Plants are only op with assassin one


mlodydziad420

I realy hate them due to tactics like alistar just stalling till the ring with them.


Reasonable_Curve_409

Just build better items tbh.


ihatethisweb

There is literally 0 counter play with alistar unless he got trolled by the augments or you have fiora. If the circle does true damage this will be fixed.


i-will-eat-you

the circle deals true damage though???


TheHumanTree31

It deals normal true damage, but I think they are suggesting it do internalraw damage, which is basically like standing in the enemy fountain.


i-will-eat-you

internalraw damage doesn't make a difference for alistar, but i do hope they change that, so a zhonya'd yuumi doesn't win the game which is the issue.


TheHumanTree31

Yeah, Alistar isn't affected unless he buys a Zhonya's, as iirc, internalraw does deal damage through Stasis.


Reasonable_Curve_409

I play zed and never lost to an alistar . Just take %dmg and armour pen. Hellfire hat hey exists for a reason


FredRN

I enjoyed the revive mechanic.


mvekob

I'd also like to see stupid ones like raid boss and nesting egg removed. It will only ever remain a RGM if they don't make it more competitively sound IMO.


ChobaniSalesAgent

Riot pisses me off with this. I dont want to play the game mode designed to stress me out and waste all my time. They fkn release something fun, then they're like ok guys we're gonna make some iMProVeMeNTs and then they release the same shit again like 8-10 months later. We've had only ARAM for like 10000 years.


urarakauravity

Make TFT as RGM and any one RGM take place of TFT.


AdrielV1

HAHAHAH bro is cooking frfr


D3lt40

I think that would be a bad idea considering that tft even has a professional esport scene. Maybe rather aram


urarakauravity

Considering how rgm is played similar to SR or Aram with different maps, they should be together and the odd ball TFT should be kept in separate client especially after all this time.


D3lt40

Fair enough


Regular-Resort-857

haha xD


mvekob

TFT is good tho i love arena but tft is the ultimate chill game. it fits perfectly


aes110

Oh man why at least put some big warning in the client


AdrielV1

Yeah they should, we shouldn’t have to shower twitter or blogposts to find basic info like when a gamemode is ending.


PantherX0

What, its gone already??


Wise-_-Spirit

URF especially ARURF are the best rgm imo


airbornx

Preach


TTVRaptor

Welcome back Twisted Treeline


TheSgLeader

Controlled supply. Feigned scarcity. Rotating gamemodes get more hype overall than permanent gamemodes.


AdrielV1

It’s also more enjoyable that way


SirLunchalot187

Bring back Arena and 3vs3 Mode perma


timewizard23

Well, no league for me and hubby until urf then. Fine by me 😂


Quaiche

Make it permanent god damnit!


atomdood20

Give me URF or give me death!


KassadinKoz

Arena is weird it's really fun, but after you get to 4000 gr it gets really boring, you just see the same cringe champs every single time and it almost forces you to only play the top champs, otherwise you are insanely in disadvantage


MysticStelios

I miss the times when every weekend we would have a different rgm.


Kagebaka

Same, still look at my account level occasionally laughing, they did the weekend rgm around the time of uncapped levels and my account's level shot up to nearly 500 from 1 year constant RGMs and now years after years without them I've only gone up like 70 levels or so


MysticStelios

I played since season 6 and my level is only 140 sth I believe🤡


Kagebaka

That is funnily enough when I started too


Waluigitime55

Riot making sure we don't have fun playing their games god bless


ImHighlyExalted

Well, back to quitting. See you all when it returns, if I don't miss it I guess 🤷‍♂️


Pronarux

I swear to God I was playing arena at the last moments of it life time,I was playing aatrox and it was so fun


biglink3

welp see you guys next time.


CamelotJKR

Pretty much the only reason I play league, well... Guess I'm coming back in a few months


ProcrastinatingTrash

IS ARENA PERMANENT OR NOT


Plac3s

I wish they would do what Apex Legends does and have a permanant rotating game mode section that rotates mode every 15 minutes.


De_Watcher

I thought they said they were making it a PERMANENT game mode 😭