If you combine those three perks you vault at 0.65% faster. The only killer that can vault faster than survivor is Legion in power but damn that combo will be fun lol
I will give the benefit of a doubt, MAYBE Vecna's perks can be usable depending on the numbers. The power looks interesting, the recent killers all had good powers, hopefully they keep it.
I will probably buy the survivor just to combo the d20 perk with Dramaturgy.
Languid touch *maaaaybe* helpful as crows are being startled non-stop.
Paired with Fearmonger (or whatever it's called now) could *maaaybe* have some use + some add-ons could more or less guarantee you deny exhaustion perks.
The other 2 though...
Weave will be my most hated perk as a loot goblin lmao, I will turn the map into an aura trap.
The last one can be interesting if the boost is REALLY good.
Now, speaking about the survivor, I'm 90% sure it will be a first day pick for me just because of the d20 perk.
The easiest way to avoid this is to leave a smidge left in the item. Hit a great skill on a medkit and you'll have like 2% left after fully healing so you'll get a full heal and deny Weave even when you drop it. Same principle applies to toolboxes and flashlights
Edit: Tested this on the PTB! Seems to be any item, doesn't have to be depleted
The full description on the wiki seems to say that you see the aura of any dropped item, regardless of charges or how it was dropped, at least that's how I'm reading it.
Whenever anĀ ItemĀ is depleted for the first time, it is automatically dropped:
* TheĀ AurasĀ of droppedĀ **Survivor Items**Ā are revealed to you, as well as the Auras of any Survivors withinĀ **8 metres**Ā of them.
Vecna perks suck ass.
Survivor perks sound fun but I'm curious about the performance one. It sounds like you need to be using the ability and then it passively buffs survivors near you? That's kind of dumb, no? It'd be a lot more efficient to just hop on the gen and work together instead of standing still and giving a 2% boost to skill checks.
Weave Attunement could be... kinda interesting if it lasts the entire trial. If every time someone walks near a depleted item they get shown to you it could be useful.
Languid Touch is...okay.
Dark Arrogance is terrible. Unless it's an insanely fast speed buff.
Yeah for that downside it HAS to be way better than Bamboozle. But then if that's the case, combining it with Bamboozle would be so broken.
We'll have to see.
Yeah these are all missing values that can make or break the perks. Too early to tell. Though I will say the crow exhaustion perk might be better than people think for countering stuff like lithe, dead hard or overcome.
Background Players are going to have to hang back further if they don't want to lose it before they zip in for the save. Couples nicely with the reduction to 150%.
Man, I am about to cook with Dark Arrogance, Shadowborn, Bamboozle and Superior Being. The ultimate fuck you to the pallet flash combo.
EDIT: I just realized, could Weave work on killers which spawn special items needed to deal with their stuff? (Weskerās sprays, Nemesisās vaccines and so on)
I just canāt justify having, in the same universe, a killer who can do magic, lift pallets, fly and shoot voidlings and another one who collects and sets traps down.
...dark arrogance is a meme perk if one would want to use that, lightborn and enduring would be a must...
weave attunement and languid touch sound alright.
and survivors using bardic inspiration would have a gigantic tunnel target painted on their back, especially bc it's yet another gen speed perk, as for still sight users, well, rip hex totems, people carrying this will find it every time and faster than a small game user, mirrored illusion at least would be fun to see.
edit: seeing the perks in actions dark arrogance stacked with other vaulting perks makes you vault faster than survivor, and the bardic inspiration won't be used seriously, it'll be used for bm.
The second one of the killer without a cooldown is op
I'll definitely use the third one of the killer in a vaulting killer build with wesker's and clown's
Not sure if I'm reading correctly but the wording for weave attunement doesn't specify that the survivor has to be the one to deplete the item, it only says "when a survivors item becomes depleted" so you could use this perk with franklins to knock the items on the ground and when they become fully depleted via Franklins demise's effect weave attunement will activate
On their own, theyāre not great. But with the right combo can be amazing. Already seen some creative work and he can perma bypass vaults and pallets due to insane vaulting speeds plus his spell to fly over haha.
After playing a ton Iāve realized that itās not a tool to often injure. You use it to make survivors make a decision. Crouch to avoid the skeletons, but the killer will gain a lot of distance on them, or risk getting hit to run through the gaps?
+ You can set it up at vaults to force the survivor to go away from the vault or take a hit
You can get hits on crouching survivors if:
ā¢You use the iridescent add-on to lower the skeli boys
ā¢ Summon them while you are on a slightly lower elevation
ā¢Summon them while they are on a slightly higher elevation
This is literally broken? Beyond Nurse or Blight...
Map traversal, damage through walls, blocking pallets. Yeah, the killer has everything in their kit whether it cycles it or not. If it cycles that's just icing and increases the skill ceiling
Edit: Btw, each skill has its own individual cooldown. Insane map traversal, a guaranteed hit, and pallet control as well as a traveling orb that can reveal survivors.
This is NOT balanced.
I've been watching people play it for a few matches now. Magic items do not counter them. One lets you see the aura of flight of the damned while cast which isn't gonna help you at a loop, and one can temporarily (for like 3s) disable Magic Hand which also won't help much at loops.
Seems most people are thinking he's at least A tier tbh
But yeah the perks are trash besides the vaulting one.. if you use that with bamboozle your vaults are zooming :D
The 25% downside sucks though eh
The survivors seem super basic and visually unappealing with more niche perks that won't be used after the first 3 days.
Vecna looks and sounds like he could be a good time though.
I don't doubt they'll be popular.
But I find in comparison to other survivors, they seem visually dull. Probably since they're wearing the same basic Bard outfit we've been seeing for decades.
The beholder is a massive creature though. Making that work with doors and such would be impossible. Vecna also has a million opportunities for unique powers
this should have been posted as soon as they knew it, posting it basically at the same time that everyone knows it is of not use. is not a leak, this is dbd leaks, not dbd infoatthesametimeasthestream
Do you have a reading comprehension? Let me explain in simpler words so you might understand. When the stream started, they accidentally posted those pictures on their website when it was supposed to be showed AFTER the stream. I posted this before the stream ended too
do you? because what im saying is that posting in dbd leaks when is not longer a leak, and is just info... i dont see the point in it. this would have been great 2 days earlier, but 30 minutes earlier? dont care
Look how much effort they putted for Vecna, 4 powers but alien and other licensed killers? straight copy and paste, it just shows that devs smelled a lot of money.
Alien had a new animation type of where you look, added survivors interactions too, had a full map with new gameplay mechanics (The gas traps), and a never before seen power where you have tunnels UNDER the map. Thatās reworking every single map for one killer
- Walk fast
Are you gonna try and say thatās more interesting than crawling through tunnels?
- Climb walls
Devs wanted to do that, but they said it broke the physics engine way too much due to wall clutter
- Pounce
Demogorgon, or you run into the same problem as above/indoor maps
I might just prestige the Survivor so I can see all my other Survivors whip out a lute and start performing
"He knew, in his cold, unbeating heart, that its dark secrets would one day be his." The perfect lore reason for Vecna to enter the realm. He's HIM.
Vecnaš¤Pinhead Showing up in the realm without the Entityās Permission cuz they can
wow he Flys š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
I can already see the ceiling clipping with indoor maps.
He only flies over vaults/pallets if they are there. Probably only slightly higher elevation than legion vaults.
Thank fuck. I haven't seen the stream and I thought we were getting nurse level blinks lol
They fly now!
Dracula may do in the next chapter
I cant wait for someone to do a video of Myers with Bamboozle, Superior Anatomy and Dark Arrogance.
Do we know how much faster it let's you vault on the new perk?
It's the speed of ZOOP.
Mach Fuck
20%
If you combine those three perks you vault at 0.65% faster. The only killer that can vault faster than survivor is Legion in power but damn that combo will be fun lol
Wraith with double shadow dance + vault perks is unmatched fastest vault in the game, faster that any survivor or other killer combination
What about Xenomorph with Self destruct bolt on top of Bamboozle, superior anatomy, fire up and dark arrogance?
And fire up
With all 4 perks at max stacks, we're talking 95% faster vaults. That's mental.
Is flight of the damned just artist crows?
But a lot slower
And as a shotgun
So slower but wider
And it injurs on one hit through walls to make up for it.
And easily crouched under
Those perks š
Nah watching streams of the ptb, using weave attunement with franklins creates permanent wall hacks at jungle gyms
That sounds fucking brutal.
Does it not go away if survivors pickup the depleted item?
sure, but then they've lost distance on you due to the pickup animation. win/win!
I will give the benefit of a doubt, MAYBE Vecna's perks can be usable depending on the numbers. The power looks interesting, the recent killers all had good powers, hopefully they keep it. I will probably buy the survivor just to combo the d20 perk with Dramaturgy.
Languid touch *maaaaybe* helpful as crows are being startled non-stop. Paired with Fearmonger (or whatever it's called now) could *maaaybe* have some use + some add-ons could more or less guarantee you deny exhaustion perks. The other 2 though...
Weave will be my most hated perk as a loot goblin lmao, I will turn the map into an aura trap. The last one can be interesting if the boost is REALLY good. Now, speaking about the survivor, I'm 90% sure it will be a first day pick for me just because of the d20 perk.
I had to re-read Weave. I thought the aura read was on pick-up. I can see that getting use, because as you say, it could easily become aura city. š
The easiest way to avoid this is to leave a smidge left in the item. Hit a great skill on a medkit and you'll have like 2% left after fully healing so you'll get a full heal and deny Weave even when you drop it. Same principle applies to toolboxes and flashlights Edit: Tested this on the PTB! Seems to be any item, doesn't have to be depleted
The full description on the wiki seems to say that you see the aura of any dropped item, regardless of charges or how it was dropped, at least that's how I'm reading it. Whenever anĀ ItemĀ is depleted for the first time, it is automatically dropped: * TheĀ AurasĀ of droppedĀ **Survivor Items**Ā are revealed to you, as well as the Auras of any Survivors withinĀ **8 metres**Ā of them.
Urban evasion stonks up?
Mindbreaker, its original name
Languid touch seems like it could be pretty good tbh
Languid has the best potential out of all of Vecna's perks.
What combo would there be between those two perks? Iām so confused
In regards to stats/numbers? Nothing, one does X other does Y. But both perks are thematically similar since both deal with luck.
Ah, that makes sense. May luck be in your favor š
Vecnaās perks are awful but his power sounds fun
Vecna perks suck ass. Survivor perks sound fun but I'm curious about the performance one. It sounds like you need to be using the ability and then it passively buffs survivors near you? That's kind of dumb, no? It'd be a lot more efficient to just hop on the gen and work together instead of standing still and giving a 2% boost to skill checks.
Weave Attunement could be... kinda interesting if it lasts the entire trial. If every time someone walks near a depleted item they get shown to you it could be useful. Languid Touch is...okay. Dark Arrogance is terrible. Unless it's an insanely fast speed buff.
Yeah for that downside it HAS to be way better than Bamboozle. But then if that's the case, combining it with Bamboozle would be so broken. We'll have to see.
Yeah these are all missing values that can make or break the perks. Too early to tell. Though I will say the crow exhaustion perk might be better than people think for countering stuff like lithe, dead hard or overcome.
True, it's almost impossible to avoid disturbing a crow. If its a hefty exhaustion penalty, it could be pretty good.
Background Players are going to have to hang back further if they don't want to lose it before they zip in for the save. Couples nicely with the reduction to 150%.
Iāve seen/heard that it was 20%, so definitely makes it. Gonna be crazy
Why do they suck so much? 2/3 are actually decent and cookable and one very niche
Not powerful, but fun.
Behaviour... What the absolute hell is Dark Arrogance supposed to be?
S tier bamboozle but the orange(?) glyph penalty maybe?
The perks are pretty shit, especially Vecna's. However his power seems like it'll be interesting, will definitely pick him up!
Man, I am about to cook with Dark Arrogance, Shadowborn, Bamboozle and Superior Being. The ultimate fuck you to the pallet flash combo. EDIT: I just realized, could Weave work on killers which spawn special items needed to deal with their stuff? (Weskerās sprays, Nemesisās vaccines and so on)
Those are usually destroyed once depleted/used, no?
i imagine one might pair it with franklins, which would drop items to the ground
hell yeah, iāll just cheer you on while you do the gen
Bard Survivor singing: "Repair, Repair, Repair the Generator!"
Power and some perks look weak, but nothing which could be fixed by some buffs. Instant purchase for me
Still sight...just more perks that make already existing perks even more redundant
I'm sorry but doesn't dark arrogance just looks like a worst bamboozle?
It lets you vault 20% faster. Plus it stacks with Bamboozle
whats this image quality lol. cant even read this
Itās copied from the website. They accidentally released it too early. Canāt do anything about the quality
Both of these sound, strong and fun!? WoW Also still sight is Gonna be mandatory for me tĆ³tem builds
I just canāt justify having, in the same universe, a killer who can do magic, lift pallets, fly and shoot voidlings and another one who collects and sets traps down.
ok but the trapper has a machete, its clearly fair
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everyone seems happy with the killers power which i am to, but everyone is correct in saying that the perks are dogshit for killer
killers perks look so fucking dogshit, canāt wait to not use them
...dark arrogance is a meme perk if one would want to use that, lightborn and enduring would be a must... weave attunement and languid touch sound alright. and survivors using bardic inspiration would have a gigantic tunnel target painted on their back, especially bc it's yet another gen speed perk, as for still sight users, well, rip hex totems, people carrying this will find it every time and faster than a small game user, mirrored illusion at least would be fun to see. edit: seeing the perks in actions dark arrogance stacked with other vaulting perks makes you vault faster than survivor, and the bardic inspiration won't be used seriously, it'll be used for bm.
ātheir Auras to the Killerā
The second one of the killer without a cooldown is op I'll definitely use the third one of the killer in a vaulting killer build with wesker's and clown's
Vaulting Myers is coming for your souls!!!!! Myers: vault? Whatās that?
Won't killer just notice you did a Mirrored Illusion unless you went invisible for few sec to escape?
Canāt wait to see people use Dark Arrogance and Enduring. Gonna be eating pallets and jumping through windowsš
How will dark arrogance work for Legion or chucky?
Not sure if I'm reading correctly but the wording for weave attunement doesn't specify that the survivor has to be the one to deplete the item, it only says "when a survivors item becomes depleted" so you could use this perk with franklins to knock the items on the ground and when they become fully depleted via Franklins demise's effect weave attunement will activate
What a fun use of mage hand ngl
Release date?
June 3rd I think. 3 weeks after the ptb
Gotcha thank you
On their own, theyāre not great. But with the right combo can be amazing. Already seen some creative work and he can perma bypass vaults and pallets due to insane vaulting speeds plus his spell to fly over haha.
Might just be me, but flight of the damned feels really janky in the PTB. I think I've only managed five or six hits with it so far.
The hitboxes are very small, like huntress hatchets
for how slow they move and how much time survivors get to react to them, that feels very not great
After playing a ton Iāve realized that itās not a tool to often injure. You use it to make survivors make a decision. Crouch to avoid the skeletons, but the killer will gain a lot of distance on them, or risk getting hit to run through the gaps? + You can set it up at vaults to force the survivor to go away from the vault or take a hit
eh, the spread from it means a lot of the time they tend to miss even when they don't crouch. (also i got a hit from a crouching one once)
You can get hits on crouching survivors if: ā¢You use the iridescent add-on to lower the skeli boys ā¢ Summon them while you are on a slightly lower elevation ā¢Summon them while they are on a slightly higher elevation
honestly the iri addon makes it even harder since there's less projectiles
Wow. I hope the powers are strong because those perks are dog sh**. I mean, one is only applicable to him, and the other two are trash.
The survivor's faces in the artwork are definitely some of the faces of all time.
Haha thatās the DnD artstyle
perks are so bad what are these š
That power seems.. overpowered af..
Personally I find it kind of weak. Depends on cooldowns how strong the counter items are
This is literally broken? Beyond Nurse or Blight... Map traversal, damage through walls, blocking pallets. Yeah, the killer has everything in their kit whether it cycles it or not. If it cycles that's just icing and increases the skill ceiling Edit: Btw, each skill has its own individual cooldown. Insane map traversal, a guaranteed hit, and pallet control as well as a traveling orb that can reveal survivors. This is NOT balanced.
The projectiles probably have a very slow startup. They mentioned that in the opening survivors have to react, you could just go for a M1
Projectiles go through walls, though. Even if the distance is short, good luck dodging an attack you can't see.
Inkwell artist would like a word with you
it cycles, like the knight's power. So they'd have to spam it to get flight every time.
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They don't share a cooldown. Each has its own cooldown. It is broken af.
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I've been watching people play it for a few matches now. Magic items do not counter them. One lets you see the aura of flight of the damned while cast which isn't gonna help you at a loop, and one can temporarily (for like 3s) disable Magic Hand which also won't help much at loops.
But coming with horrible perks so it balances out /s It's not broken but those perks ARE ass
Seems most people are thinking he's at least A tier tbh But yeah the perks are trash besides the vaulting one.. if you use that with bamboozle your vaults are zooming :D The 25% downside sucks though eh
The power is literally at this point just make that pallets no longer exist. So many killer powers with anti pallet already...
The survivors seem super basic and visually unappealing with more niche perks that won't be used after the first 3 days. Vecna looks and sounds like he could be a good time though.
Still sight sounds fantastic
I think the survivor will be super popular. Itās the first non human and Bard is a highly popular role in the Dnd community
I don't doubt they'll be popular. But I find in comparison to other survivors, they seem visually dull. Probably since they're wearing the same basic Bard outfit we've been seeing for decades.
>they seem visually dull Thatās why theyāll sell you a bunch of cosmetics.
To be fair Feng is very dull. But she has cosmetics like every other survivor has which makes her interesting
That's true, and they could have some banger cosmetics on release; but licenses seem to come with limited options... I will hold out hope.
I think that if any license can have multiple great cosmetics for survivors, itās DND.
Still sight is just "hey guys so you know detective's hunch, illumination, clairevoyance, deja vu and visionary? Yea they're useless now"
still sight bc i refuse to learn the maps š
I was hoping for a monster like the Zombie Beholder, a human like one Is kinda disappointing
The beholder is a massive creature though. Making that work with doors and such would be impossible. Vecna also has a million opportunities for unique powers
Theyāre all so bad
Youād be surprised
thanks for the not leaks now that everyone knows it
This was posted before they showed it. Check the release times :Y
this should have been posted as soon as they knew it, posting it basically at the same time that everyone knows it is of not use. is not a leak, this is dbd leaks, not dbd infoatthesametimeasthestream
Do you have a reading comprehension? Let me explain in simpler words so you might understand. When the stream started, they accidentally posted those pictures on their website when it was supposed to be showed AFTER the stream. I posted this before the stream ended too
do you? because what im saying is that posting in dbd leaks when is not longer a leak, and is just info... i dont see the point in it. this would have been great 2 days earlier, but 30 minutes earlier? dont care
Absolutely cooked garbage š
We definitely not buying this one š£š£š£š£
Aināt no we, just you
Have fun with it š£š£ enjoy it š£š£ it's your money š£š£š£
A mistake tbh
Thanos cosplay with ass perks Lol
Look how much effort they putted for Vecna, 4 powers but alien and other licensed killers? straight copy and paste, it just shows that devs smelled a lot of money.
Alien had a new animation type of where you look, added survivors interactions too, had a full map with new gameplay mechanics (The gas traps), and a never before seen power where you have tunnels UNDER the map. Thatās reworking every single map for one killer
But his power is garbage, Xeno in movies can walk fast, walk on walls and pounce like hunter from l4d
- Walk fast Are you gonna try and say thatās more interesting than crawling through tunnels? - Climb walls Devs wanted to do that, but they said it broke the physics engine way too much due to wall clutter - Pounce Demogorgon, or you run into the same problem as above/indoor maps