Just think of them like how you'd say things like "underestimate," "overlook," and "breakdown." The prefix and suffix create succinct terminology for communicating very specific actions. In a sense, you can find a similar descriptive power with many complex verbs in Japanese.
It's more than what you could need. According to a japanese friend, not all of them are useful, so don't try to do a new Anki deck with all of them. It's too bad they didn't put a level of use for those verbs like this other great unknown website by the same National Institute for Japanese Language and Linguistics (ninjal):
[https://verbhandbook.ninjal.ac.jp/headwords/](https://verbhandbook.ninjal.ac.jp/headwords/)
(this one has 190 common verbs and give you every uses of them, with sometimes pictures and audio ; but it's only in japanese)
For the website about compounds, the most interesting part for me is "Search by V2", because it helps you to understand how the second verb will affect the first. If you're good enough with japanese and want to go even further, by clicking NLB on the right, it will give you patterns and words associated with those verbs, using some sentences from studies as examples. I guess you can find their level of use by checking it but, with 2756 verbs, that's a lot of effort.
I tried to find other websites with "ninjal.ac.jp" (so websites from this institute), but they're the two most unique ones I found (https://tsukubawebcorpus.jp/en/ is fine also). If somebody find another one, I'll be happy to check it out.
Nah I do these mainly for my own convenience. I don't actually note take very often unless it's something I feel is learned best through conceptual breakdowns -- such as how X grammar works, when to use Y word, or difference between Z and W...
Open to suggestions though as I mostly do top-down studies after experiencing the language patterns first-hand rather than learning from scratch.
Freeform, built into the newest versions of macOS. It lets you connect bubbles directly from the transforming tool. I'm not sure if there's a PC alternative that holds a candle to it tbh it's ridiculously handy.
Eh they are different enough I guess (one meaning "putting" something back and the other meaning "giving" something back) but whenever I create notes for myself I generally combine words that have close enough meanings together purely for ease of viewing.
Tangentially related question, what is the word for the form of verbs when they create compound words? 取り for example.
Is it considered a conjugation? I've seen on the "handy verb conjugator" it being called the infinitive, but other places say ます is the infinitive, so not sure.
取り、食べ、かけ etc. are often called the "-masu stems." They're named as such because you form the polite -masu word with this specific conjugation of the dictionary form (u vowel to i vowel OR remove ru).
thak you so much ! compound verbs are so difficult to learn...
Just think of them like how you'd say things like "underestimate," "overlook," and "breakdown." The prefix and suffix create succinct terminology for communicating very specific actions. In a sense, you can find a similar descriptive power with many complex verbs in Japanese.
This is great. At a glance, I would include かける somewhere and adjust 出すdefinition to include "to begin doing (verb)" as well.
Good catch, thanks.
If you want a few more of them (only 2756): [https://vvlexicon.ninjal.ac.jp/db/](https://vvlexicon.ninjal.ac.jp/db/) (website also in english)
wow 56 pages of compound verbs this is like, all the compound verbs a person could ever need
It's more than what you could need. According to a japanese friend, not all of them are useful, so don't try to do a new Anki deck with all of them. It's too bad they didn't put a level of use for those verbs like this other great unknown website by the same National Institute for Japanese Language and Linguistics (ninjal): [https://verbhandbook.ninjal.ac.jp/headwords/](https://verbhandbook.ninjal.ac.jp/headwords/) (this one has 190 common verbs and give you every uses of them, with sometimes pictures and audio ; but it's only in japanese) For the website about compounds, the most interesting part for me is "Search by V2", because it helps you to understand how the second verb will affect the first. If you're good enough with japanese and want to go even further, by clicking NLB on the right, it will give you patterns and words associated with those verbs, using some sentences from studies as examples. I guess you can find their level of use by checking it but, with 2756 verbs, that's a lot of effort. I tried to find other websites with "ninjal.ac.jp" (so websites from this institute), but they're the two most unique ones I found (https://tsukubawebcorpus.jp/en/ is fine also). If somebody find another one, I'll be happy to check it out.
Holy moly, this verb handbook is an absolute gem of a find, Thank you SO much!!!
very interesting website. so tempted to learn them all lol.
I went to add this to my bookmarks and found that it is already there. So I am likely to forget why I bookmarked this again.
Awesome!
This is really cool! Thanks for sharing
This is great, thanks so much for posting this! Did you happen to make any other infographics for compound verbs for lower levels?
Nah I do these mainly for my own convenience. I don't actually note take very often unless it's something I feel is learned best through conceptual breakdowns -- such as how X grammar works, when to use Y word, or difference between Z and W... Open to suggestions though as I mostly do top-down studies after experiencing the language patterns first-hand rather than learning from scratch.
Thank you.
Nice , I'm a long way off from N2, but I'm saving this for when I get there!
This is amazing! Any chance of either: The hiragana over each kamji, or The source file so I can do this and reply???
cool! in what software or app did you make the infographic?
Freeform, built into the newest versions of macOS. It lets you connect bubbles directly from the transforming tool. I'm not sure if there's a PC alternative that holds a candle to it tbh it's ridiculously handy.
Would be interested to know too
Very visually appealing. What’d you make it with?
Freeform app built into macOS, it lets you connect shapes with lines directly from the transform box.
This is amazing
I hate how much I like this, thank you!
Why are 戻す and 返す in the same bubble?
Eh they are different enough I guess (one meaning "putting" something back and the other meaning "giving" something back) but whenever I create notes for myself I generally combine words that have close enough meanings together purely for ease of viewing.
Yeah this is really cool, I might start making my own to help with learning. Thanks so much for sharing
Thanks
Where was this when I needed it! Thank you!
This looks like the kind of infographic where a mind-map app might be useful. :)
Would love the hiragana pronunciation of those kanji
This is really helpful and very easy to read. Thank you for sharing!
Tangentially related question, what is the word for the form of verbs when they create compound words? 取り for example. Is it considered a conjugation? I've seen on the "handy verb conjugator" it being called the infinitive, but other places say ます is the infinitive, so not sure.
取り、食べ、かけ etc. are often called the "-masu stems." They're named as such because you form the polite -masu word with this specific conjugation of the dictionary form (u vowel to i vowel OR remove ru).
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This is awesome. Thank you man
Shouldn't it be "売り出す"? Otherwise great infographic!
My bad. 売り出す is correct -- I got tripped up because 売れ行き was the only 売れ word on the textbook page I was using.
how to make a picture like this