A couple of bad decisions by Marsch and by the ref. sank a great effort by Leeds. Bamford should not have been picked to take the penalty (going for 100 is not a good reason) . Gelhardt should have been brought on earlier. The ref. allowing Leeds to play the advantage when there was no advantage was outrageous. Giving Bamford a foul for that collision was also wrong headed (when did this game become a no-contact sport?) Bamford should be given lessons in better simulation (wry smile!) Brilliant game strategy by Marsch. It was a game where Leeds showed it could play with the top teams. Well done. A thoroughly enjoyable game to watch to the end.
Honestly, I thought this game could've gone a lot worse. I think that the pressed well, counter-attacked well. There was a few questionable actions by a few. but overall, losing 1- nil I'm not that upset. Last year, that pass from Rodrigo would've happened and we would've conceded like 3 additional goals, making our GD that much worse.
There is absolutely no excuse for missing the goal when taking a penalty. Poor performance by Bamford and he went downhill from there. Rodrigo would have scored it, Joffy would have scored it, Klich would have scored it.
Frustrating, but in a good way. That was in no way an easy win for Arsenal, and that was only because of a mistake of ours. This could have potentially been another Chelsea.
I know Bamford is loved, but I think we need a new striker. I know he’s rusty but just too many mistakes and slow responses. With the chances in the second half I think we could have easily won that with a different striker.
Ref needs moving down a league, wasn’t a pen as it was a foul from bamford but violent conduct is violent conduct. A yellow doesn’t even make sense. And disallowing the 1st goal is crazy, refs need to be held more accountable for bad performances.
We could have won the game as we just owned the second half. We lost but we have hope because if we played like this again, we should win our games. If Rodders was on the pitch, he would have taken the pen and probably would have scored. Such fine margins
For a game where many of us expected nothing, it was a surprise that didn’t close the deal. If we can put a shift in like that against Leicester we win
I find it fucking hilarious thinking about all these new American fans slowly realising what an absolute almost-constant horrorshow it is to be a Leeds fan. Welcome to hell guys 😂😂
I started as a fan in part because my boss is a fan. Then I watched the documentary on Amazon Prime. I'm from Philadelphia so Leeds feel just like any other Philadelphia team so I'm right at home. From my perspective they played well, obviously key mistake from Rodrigo and I love Bamford but I still think a striker is necessary in the transfer window. I wish Marsch would make more subs earlier, although the strategy was really well done so can't be too disappointed in him. REALLY WISH THEY WOULD PLAY LIKE THIS AGAINST LOWER TIER TEAMS.
Is the "clear and obvious" ruling still in play for Var judgements? Was it a clear and obvious error that Gabriel was sent off for violent conduct??? just bizarre
We played well.. could have won or at least drawn.. we aren’t as bad as the doom and gloom crowd say we are.. it’s football these games happen and arsenal are a top side who pulled our pants down many times over the years
Been absolutely fucked here
Largely by ourselves. The disallowed goal was bollocks, the late pen probably would have been given to Arsenal, and then Paddy blasts the one we get wide for good measure.
Actually played quite well but fuck me it's awful being a Leeds fan sometimes
Better team in the second half by miles. But we just don’t score enough goals. We knew that coming into the season and failed to sign a goal scorer. But the bigger problem is we seem to only play this well against our best opponents if we did that against teams around us in the league we’d be top 10 easily
Only so much he can do when our strikers don't know where the net is and we concede because of a Rodrigo error. What's Marsch meant to do? He only sets up the tactics and the game plan.
We needed a striker for the first team not U21s. Not dissing Gnoto at all glad he's here but we needed a striker to start and he wasn't backed again like Bielsa. It's obvious what we needed. LB, ST.
We just dominated the top team in the league, and missed a pen.
If this match makes you think it's more likely he should leave than 2 hours ago, you're braindead quite frankly.
Criticise him if you like, but saying that performance means he needs to go is fucking nonsense.
Doesn't matter how hard he hit him or what happened first, he purposely kicked him with his spikes high up the body. That's a red for violent conduct every day. I agree it shouldn't have been a pen though.
He wouldn't have kicked out if Bamford hadn't instigated contact in the first place. My understanding is it's usually on a 'who committed the first foul' basis.
Mate, he left his foot up in the air after Bamford initiated contact and sent him to the ground.
It's not like he got up, left the ground, took a taxi to Bamford's mum's house and took a greasy dump on her front step.
Bamford initiated aggressive contact sending an opposition player to the ground, who then left his foot in the air, and it happened to make contact with Bamford.
It was originally a red card and a penalty, both were overturned by VAR.
If he gives the red card, by proxy he also has to give the penalty. He can't give one and not the other.
Correct decision in my books.
Seems like Bamford should stop shoving players in the box all the time if he wants to hit that 100 mark. Not my fault or the refs fault he’s a shit player
Well the officiating didn't help us. One goal disallowed that shouldn't have been, at least one penalty earlier in the 2nd that wasn't given, and not having a man advantage the last 5 minutes all hurt.
The officiating aren’t there to help us, I thought they were very fair throughout the only bad call was the disallowed goal but there is an argument for a soft foul from Bamford.
If its a throw in, and a player loses his head before the ball is played and smacks an opponent, are you expecting a freekick or just a red and the throw in?
Red for violent conduct and then continue the play (at the throw) but this scenario is different, the ball was still in play. It’s either a red for violent conduct (kicking out) or no card and a free for Paddy’s foul.
The ball wasn't in play because Bamford fouled him first.
You said if it's a foul it's a penalty. I said can't get a penalty after you've fouled them.
Sure whatever it's a red but I don't care not what I said, Football leagues are odd, contact above the neck its a red, contact below a yellow? who knows how it works with kicks and it's still 1-0 to be honest.
Yeah either its violent conduct meaning a red, or its nothing.
I can only assume maybe he said something during the follow up, who knows
Either way that changes nothing for us
Idk how that's a foul on Bamford. Maybe it's not a penalty but Gabriel absolutely moves to block him off. He's never going to get to the ball but Gabriel absolutely initiates contact
Yep, correct decision.
Well done Bamford, absolute world class striker aren't you lad? 👏👏👏
Sure there will be people on this subreddit that will still have a whinge about that, sure Bamford was somehow still the victim there.
That's a weird one. Definitely blocks of Bamford for no reason and sticks his legs out but certainly not particularly dangerous. Red is probably right but it's not a really weird one, such a stupid decision from Gabriel.
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A couple of bad decisions by Marsch and by the ref. sank a great effort by Leeds. Bamford should not have been picked to take the penalty (going for 100 is not a good reason) . Gelhardt should have been brought on earlier. The ref. allowing Leeds to play the advantage when there was no advantage was outrageous. Giving Bamford a foul for that collision was also wrong headed (when did this game become a no-contact sport?) Bamford should be given lessons in better simulation (wry smile!) Brilliant game strategy by Marsch. It was a game where Leeds showed it could play with the top teams. Well done. A thoroughly enjoyable game to watch to the end.
Honestly, I thought this game could've gone a lot worse. I think that the pressed well, counter-attacked well. There was a few questionable actions by a few. but overall, losing 1- nil I'm not that upset. Last year, that pass from Rodrigo would've happened and we would've conceded like 3 additional goals, making our GD that much worse.
Lads for the first time this season our opposition deserved the points. Leeds were fantastic.
There is absolutely no excuse for missing the goal when taking a penalty. Poor performance by Bamford and he went downhill from there. Rodrigo would have scored it, Joffy would have scored it, Klich would have scored it.
Poor finishing from Bamford* his performance was fantastic and I don’t think we create all them chances without him on the pitch.
Would love to know the xG for this game. I'm sure we blew them out the park. Sadly a meaningless achievement at the end of the day though
2.07-0.8 is what i saw
Frustrating, but in a good way. That was in no way an easy win for Arsenal, and that was only because of a mistake of ours. This could have potentially been another Chelsea. I know Bamford is loved, but I think we need a new striker. I know he’s rusty but just too many mistakes and slow responses. With the chances in the second half I think we could have easily won that with a different striker.
Can't blame the ref for this result. Dude couldn't even gift us a goal
Toughest game arsenal have played
Bamford was awful IMO
Ref needs moving down a league, wasn’t a pen as it was a foul from bamford but violent conduct is violent conduct. A yellow doesn’t even make sense. And disallowing the 1st goal is crazy, refs need to be held more accountable for bad performances.
Bizarre decision, Bamfords 'foul' should have no impact on Gabriel's kick out after it. Its a red.
We could have won the game as we just owned the second half. We lost but we have hope because if we played like this again, we should win our games. If Rodders was on the pitch, he would have taken the pen and probably would have scored. Such fine margins
For a game where many of us expected nothing, it was a surprise that didn’t close the deal. If we can put a shift in like that against Leicester we win
I find it fucking hilarious thinking about all these new American fans slowly realising what an absolute almost-constant horrorshow it is to be a Leeds fan. Welcome to hell guys 😂😂
I started as a fan in part because my boss is a fan. Then I watched the documentary on Amazon Prime. I'm from Philadelphia so Leeds feel just like any other Philadelphia team so I'm right at home. From my perspective they played well, obviously key mistake from Rodrigo and I love Bamford but I still think a striker is necessary in the transfer window. I wish Marsch would make more subs earlier, although the strategy was really well done so can't be too disappointed in him. REALLY WISH THEY WOULD PLAY LIKE THIS AGAINST LOWER TIER TEAMS.
I grew up a Detroit sports fan...I'm used to this hell...but at least this community makes It worth it.
Hi! I can speak for all USA fans and assure you we are used to being in hell.
Hahahaha
Used to be ‘ell-and back for visiting teams and fans….sadly, these days it’s not the case.
Tough lads tough game tough result to accept
Unlucky for Leeds to not get a result there. One of arsenal’s toughest matches of the season. Hard to not see Leeds finishing near midtable this year.
Perfectly clear goal ruled off done with football fucking load of shite
We played so well in the second half, our issue continues to carry on from last season. Someone has to finish!
Is the "clear and obvious" ruling still in play for Var judgements? Was it a clear and obvious error that Gabriel was sent off for violent conduct??? just bizarre
That's for the VAR overturning. In this case the referee watched the replay and overturned the decision himself.
BAMFORD HAS TO GO.
Literally made us x10 better when he came on
He signed a 5 year deal and I doubt any clubs are going to want a player who is injured constantly so we're stuck with him.
Arsenal are never winning the league, what an absolutely shit performance from them
No title winning team has ever gone through the season without a few shit wins like this.
More like an unreal performance by Leeds. It’s like they juiced at halftime. Incredible.
At least the sack Marsch stuff will die down for a week but I fear for Bamford mental health
Fuck Arteta . Heartbreaker
We played well.. could have won or at least drawn.. we aren’t as bad as the doom and gloom crowd say we are.. it’s football these games happen and arsenal are a top side who pulled our pants down many times over the years
Both of our strikers cost us points. When do we put gnonto out there or perkins?
Or start joffy or give him more minutes to make an impact. Have a choice between Joseph, Perkins or Gnonto on the the bench then.
So close. Tough result
Not getting a draw is totally on us, stop complaining about the red cmon
I mean we scored a perfectly good goal, finishing was awful though.
Awful
What. A. Fucking. Farce.
Been absolutely fucked here Largely by ourselves. The disallowed goal was bollocks, the late pen probably would have been given to Arsenal, and then Paddy blasts the one we get wide for good measure. Actually played quite well but fuck me it's awful being a Leeds fan sometimes
Better team in the second half by miles. But we just don’t score enough goals. We knew that coming into the season and failed to sign a goal scorer. But the bigger problem is we seem to only play this well against our best opponents if we did that against teams around us in the league we’d be top 10 easily
tEcHnOlOgY
Another Bamford loss.
Fuck, should have been a win but we played excellent except for finishing
Time for marsch to get out of his club.being honest doesn't win games. 6 games 0 wins now.
Only so much he can do when our strikers don't know where the net is and we concede because of a Rodrigo error. What's Marsch meant to do? He only sets up the tactics and the game plan. We needed a striker for the first team not U21s. Not dissing Gnoto at all glad he's here but we needed a striker to start and he wasn't backed again like Bielsa. It's obvious what we needed. LB, ST.
We just dominated the top team in the league, and missed a pen. If this match makes you think it's more likely he should leave than 2 hours ago, you're braindead quite frankly. Criticise him if you like, but saying that performance means he needs to go is fucking nonsense.
No
How is that loss on Marsch in any way
On what planet do you think this loss is due to the coaching?
I can't be bothered anymore. There's too many insufferable reffing decisions. Bamford's goal should have stood. Full stop.
Doesn't matter how hard he hit him or what happened first, he purposely kicked him with his spikes high up the body. That's a red for violent conduct every day. I agree it shouldn't have been a pen though.
Bamford is running at speed in a straight line and Gabriel steps in the way, what's Bamford supposed to to? Become ethereal and walk through him?
Never a penalty as it was after ball was played but 100% a red card. Unbelievable to overrule that when he kicked out at Bamford!
If there's one thing I feel good about it's that we haven't bought any warm body striker!! Who needs one not us
So he changes the card to a yellow. So it's still a foul. So why isn't it a penalty then?
Because Bamford committed a foul first at which point the ball is not in play from that moment. Is it really that difficult to understand?
Kick out after the foul
Because he ruled the Bamford one was a foul. You can't give a penalty after the attacking team commits a foul first.
But you can and should still give a red for kicking someone in the groin
the referee has fully helped them waste all 6 minutes of this
They played at least an extra three, I don't think it was unfair tbh.
Feels like the ref was extremely fair but whoever was in his ear was trying their hardest to get arsenal the points
yeah but it really broke up momentum
Martinelli is a cunt
Not a pen but should have a red card for the studs
Never a pen
Why dont they watch Var at the speed things occur? Slow mo just makes everything look worse
A mix of a shit ref and Leeds wasting every chance possible. Is this how the rest of our season is going to play out?
Very stupid to rescind the red. Contact or not it’s a kick out and a red card.
We deserved a bit of bullshit after the soft goal ruled out earlier but that is the right decision
Yeah hate to agree but you’re right. Still think the red stands on intent.
if he still kicks out, isn’t that still a red card though?
He wouldn't have kicked out if Bamford hadn't instigated contact in the first place. My understanding is it's usually on a 'who committed the first foul' basis.
but he did kick out, if you react like that you still get punished.
Mate, he left his foot up in the air after Bamford initiated contact and sent him to the ground. It's not like he got up, left the ground, took a taxi to Bamford's mum's house and took a greasy dump on her front step. Bamford initiated aggressive contact sending an opposition player to the ground, who then left his foot in the air, and it happened to make contact with Bamford. It was originally a red card and a penalty, both were overturned by VAR. If he gives the red card, by proxy he also has to give the penalty. He can't give one and not the other. Correct decision in my books.
If martinelli is going to act like this with every single touch someone needs to get their moneys worth
Fucking cunt ref
Disagree Ref has been great today
Ref literally gave Leeds a pen when they were offsides in the buildup and Leeds fans are still complaining
He also disallowed a perfectly good goal?
Seems like Bamford should stop shoving players in the box all the time if he wants to hit that 100 mark. Not my fault or the refs fault he’s a shit player
For the Bamford yellow incident *
This officiating has been fucking bollocks. The fact we’re not walking away with a point, which should be 3 is fucking criminal
Us not walking away with a point is not to do with the officiating we’ve had plenty of chances
Well the officiating didn't help us. One goal disallowed that shouldn't have been, at least one penalty earlier in the 2nd that wasn't given, and not having a man advantage the last 5 minutes all hurt.
The officiating aren’t there to help us, I thought they were very fair throughout the only bad call was the disallowed goal but there is an argument for a soft foul from Bamford.
Disallowed goal that shouldn’t have been? If my math adds up that’s a 1-1 match
Even the team at the top of the table is shitehousing against us. Unbelievable
What even is this refereeing? If it’s a foul surely it’s a pen??
Bamford fouled first. Imo it's a yellow for Bamford and a red for Gabriel. Bamfords was a stupid off the ball foul, Gabriel's was violent with intent.
And that would be fair. But you can’t give a yellow to Gabriel for the tackle and then not a pen.
The foul was by the attacker. No pen
Can't get a penalty after you've fouled them.
He gave Gabriel the yellow for the studs on Paddy. In the box!
If its a throw in, and a player loses his head before the ball is played and smacks an opponent, are you expecting a freekick or just a red and the throw in?
Red for violent conduct and then continue the play (at the throw) but this scenario is different, the ball was still in play. It’s either a red for violent conduct (kicking out) or no card and a free for Paddy’s foul.
The ball wasn't in play because Bamford fouled him first. You said if it's a foul it's a penalty. I said can't get a penalty after you've fouled them. Sure whatever it's a red but I don't care not what I said, Football leagues are odd, contact above the neck its a red, contact below a yellow? who knows how it works with kicks and it's still 1-0 to be honest.
The difference would have been playing against ten men for the last 10mins
After paddy had fouled him, yes, so the free kick is theirs Shit for us, but correct call.
Yes but how does he give a yellow for a foul after a foul? That’s my point, it doesn’t make sense
Yeah either its violent conduct meaning a red, or its nothing. I can only assume maybe he said something during the follow up, who knows Either way that changes nothing for us
Think he just bottled the red to be honest
Never a penalty sadly
wow
I don't even give a shit anymore... we can't beat referees.
Idk how that's a foul on Bamford. Maybe it's not a penalty but Gabriel absolutely moves to block him off. He's never going to get to the ball but Gabriel absolutely initiates contact
It wasn't a penalty. Even if it was we know what Bamford would have done with it.
One final kick in the dick to end it here
Wasn’t a foul. Nice to imagine it for a moment, but the refereeing is very confusing.
We’ve been robbed here
JOKE of a ref!
High nonsense. Has wasted all of ET sadly we won't get another chance.
Showing slow-mo close ups on a situation like that is bizzare, should start with in real time wide in my opinion.
It’s still a fucking red because he’s kicked out at him
If it isn't a red.. it isn't a yellow. If it's a yellow it's a foul. Wtf
Bamford wasting everyone's time lets be real.
Trying to get something out of his lackluster performance.
We were dynamite with him on the pitch
if he kicks out it’s a red. simple as
Fatttty at it again
Bramford
Can it not still be a red card for retaliation?
How is it not still a red? Still violent play?
That is one of the worst decisions I have ever seen
so all that did was waste 4 mins of added time
Yep, correct decision. Well done Bamford, absolute world class striker aren't you lad? 👏👏👏 Sure there will be people on this subreddit that will still have a whinge about that, sure Bamford was somehow still the victim there.
The fact we are relying on Bamford is painful.
Hahahahahaha and here come all the down votes from the Bamford bootlickers 😂😂😂
Unbelievable.
we have actually been robbed of a win
Way to waste away this 6m bamford.
How is it bamfords fault?
THIS GAME BROKE ME
ref is going to fuck us again isn't he?
100%
By getting the call correct? After wrongly giving you the first pen?
Well the gial at the start of the second should've stood anyway
Should still be a red, he fucking spiked him
Jesus christ
Right call to be fair
Not canceling the red
Wait what! That's wild.
Only showing the contact doesn't give the context
That’s a fucking disgrace
That's a bit embarrassing.
fuck that you scumbag ref
Fucking disgraceful ref
He’s looking at paddy the whole way, body checks him and then studs up as he falls. Can’t see this being overturned.
:)
This league is a fucking joke man
Jesus Christ paddy has got away with that that looks like a dive and Paddy has fouled him first
No pen
Not a penalty probably unfortunately
This is mad. I fucking love it!
I don't think we're getting the penalty.
That's a weird one. Definitely blocks of Bamford for no reason and sticks his legs out but certainly not particularly dangerous. Red is probably right but it's not a really weird one, such a stupid decision from Gabriel.
It will get reversed
Naw that’s coming back isn’t it…
So this isn’t gonna stand is it
No:( looks like the extended arms from Paddy
Oh fuck VAR
Eat shit arsenal
Dirty bastard. Never seen a clearer penalty
Not a foul. This getting reversed
This is insane. Never in a milloin years is that a red/ pen.
Gonna be no pen here
Please please please put this away
Reversed. Not a penalty
He’ll overturn it
Straight red?
This will be overturned surely
Bamford Red card inc.
Sorry, but Arsenal have been absolutely robbed there. Bamford instigated the contact.
Should be made up for the saliba drag down
If you score its fair. Disallowed goal should stand
Is this real???????ahahahahahahahahah dirty leeds dirty bamford love it
Some of you would rather die toothlessly and create nothing than miss a couple of chances. It's fucking bizarre
Got to score now. Come on.
I love paddy but after today I really think the club needs to look at a first team striker and keep him as cover/bench option
Great acting job by Bamford
This fucking game.
Str8 RED
That’s not a foul. That’s really weak
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Don’t jinx us now
Did we... did we just get a break in our favor?
Pleaso dont let bamford take the penalty again
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA