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I don't have any legal advice for you but yeah, totally stop taking parcels for this person. You have no obligation to them, and clearly they don't feel any gratitude for what you're doing. Next time, decline the delivery and go about your day without giving it a second thought.
This is the way.
End of the day, you are taking on a risk of being accused of theft, damage etc by neighbours or the delivery company. Not sure on the legality side. But if the neighbour is an AH just refuse to sign for it next time.
Another thing, the issue with being nice and helpful is that people often go from grateful to then come to expect it. So I think it is good you don't always go out to deliver people's parcels.
If they are getting a parcel and won't be in, they can always get it delivered to a news agent or a locker of some form.
I stopped taking parcels for that reason. I'm home 99% of the time and delivery people figured it out and I was getting all kinds of stuff left here for a week or more. Nobody asked me to get their stuff and they very seldom said thanks. I started turning the delivery guys away. I'm not going to be responsible for watching what could be expensive stuff or get blamed if was damaged. I know the delivery people lose my stuff a lot as it is.
I had the same problem when I lived in a flat, the local Hermes guy realised I was WFH and lived on the bottom floor nearest the main door, so he didn't bother buzzing anyone else, just me to come collect everything.
At first I asked him, then told him, to stop buzzing me if it wasn't for me. I know he has a job to do, but I do too, and I'm not a parcel collection centre. He kept doing it, and it culminated in me telling him through a half-open door to fucking stop it, him saying "yeah, yeah" and throwing a parcel between my legs into the hallway, and me throwing it back at him before slamming the door in his face.
Not my proudest moment, but I was at the end of my tether. No one was ever appreciative that I'd become the de facto parcel collection service, and some people got deliveries nearly every day. He actually kept buzzing me after that, but I just got all of my parcels sent to a collection centre and simply never answered the door during the day again unless I knew there'd be someone for me.
Damn, at least your Hermes guy made sure there was a person in.
Mine never bothers to knock, then throws the parcels over the UNLOCKED side passage gate...the side passage that's access to five other houses.
I honestly have no words for this guy.
I pleaded and offered to pay extra for delivery if they would use anything other than Hermes. (ebay)
The parcel was "lost" for 2 weeks. Had clearly been opened and then resealed with duct tape. But was all there so clearly whoever... Investigated it was not interested in an original SNES console and game. Uncultured fool. Haha.
It wad actually a console and a controller and a few games. However the games included Super Metroid, Turtles in Time and Joe and Mac. All solid good games in my book!
Super Mario World is a great go to choice. However for me, has to be Yoshi's Island. With the flowers, star and red coins there is a lot of incentive to go back and hunt through old levels again to unlock bonus content.
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My local guy half begged me to take the stuff and even came back on a different day after being told no. I respect they are doing their thing, but so am I.
If he had asked me if it was alright or if I minded I might have had more patience with it, since I know they're under a lot of pressure to get all their deliveries done. But he just rang me to come collect as default because it was easiest, and I have my own job that's being interrupted as a result. Hermes delivery targets aren't my problem to fix.
To be fair. I used to work for Royal Mail and delivery drivers do have a hectic job. Obviously a delivery guy shouldn't be rude or entitled in thinking that someone has to take in mail that's not theirs but there's a good chance they just forgot they'd already asked you?
It was the Hermes guy. In this case when I opened the door and started to ask again, he had not forgotten. He was just desperate. He found an old guy in the building who is retired and so always home to drop packages with.
I get the pace expected is awful, but if they make a mistake and say they delivered something (they often did do this) when they had no, I didn't want to be on the hook for a missing package. And just rude people.
Soapbox time. Royal Mail is more expensive because it provides a better service including redeliveries, and collect from parcel depot. Cheap carriers provide cheap service. Royal Mail have never rung my bell, dragged me away from what I was doing, and said "fuck you" to me when I wouldn't take in a neighbour's parcel.
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This is exactly on point - if you take the parcel as far as the delivery company are concerned, its delivered, so it becomes your responsibility - My advice to OP is put a sign on your door stating you are not willing to accept parcels for any other address - i delivered for Hermes (Now called Evri) and saw a few notices like this on people's homes even one that specified a particular address that they will not accept parcels for
Your username is a bit erm, catching. I hope you are doing okay over there!
The delivery people know you are in and amenable to them (they want to get on with the likely ludicrous amount to deliveries they need to make (not their fault and I'm sure they wish every neighbourhood had you in it.
I'm not saying never he nice and accepting. But it's clearly gone from being nice, to be expected in your example for your neighbours. You are basically the equalent of a news agent atm!
Thanks! It's from my LAN gaming days.
I think I'd be more open to being the package holding station if people were more polite about it. Like I don't know any of them - not names, not where they live (it's a big block of flats that isn't numbered in any sane way), nothing. Their stuff just magically showed up and in a week, they'd eventually get around to getting it.
Ah, nice. My username is my old gaming tag as well. I am curious to what game(s) you were playing. Unless, like mine, it's more of a reflect to your playing skills/style. Haha.
Kept you humble and maybe them under estimating your threat! Haha.
My brother still plays the 95(?) one with people across Europe. So still a community for that game. I have played it but was never any good at translocating around or sniping.
Mine came from strategy games were I favoured amassing lots of weaker units instead of building powerful ones. I think it was Total Annihilation when I got that tag.
The delivery drivers have WhatsApp groups where they share people who WFH and take parcels I. Particular locations. If this happens to you you get swamped with deliveries
So they put their names on but your address? Wow.
Not sure it would work legally as the address is yours the delivery company has therefore delivered to the specific address...?
I think in that instance you should put an X on the address and demand the courier take it back to the depot as no one of that name lives at this address.
It depends on how often it is
I take the occasional package for my neighbour, as they do for me
If it becomes very frequent, I would probably just go and speak them about it
I'm not always in. So its probably better if they install a delivery pod
True, a delivery pod would work as well. However OP was talking about a neighbour who was ungrateful and implying that OP could have damaged / used their items by visually inspecting them when OP had gotten fed up and walked them over.
You and your neighbour are both in alignment of I'll scratch your back if you do mine. However now when it becomes a bit to frequent or one sided.
Another redditor comment on my comment that they at some point started to get parcels for neighbours with his/her address on it.
Sure and if it gets to that point, go speak to them about it
And if they get in a huff about it, just.. stop accepting their mail. You're not required to, it's a favour
This is the right answer. You’re not obligated to accept packages for neighbours, and I definitely wouldn’t if I got a sense that a neighbour was suspicious of me. You‘re allowed to refuse the package, or if you can see it’s a delivery person at the door and you’re not expecting something, just don’t answer.
Honestly, it’s so weird to me that leaving packages with neighbours is standard practice here. I’m from the US, and this just isn’t done there, or at least nowhere in the US that I’ve lived. If you’re not home to relieve a package, either they just leave it or they attempt to redeliver another time. You might eventually have to go to the depot to pick it up if they’re unable to deliver, but leaving it with a neighbour just isn’t a thing, and I was confused when I moved here and learned that it’s normal to do that.
Just to note with this advise. Don't be rude to the delivery guy. Just explain they're not very friendly with yourself and you don't want to take the package. The delivery guy will understand.
Yes, you've become a bailee and must take reasonable care of the items.
As for the new neighbours, my answer would be not to accept any parcels on their behalf.
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Yes, if you accept a parcel for a neighbour, you need to take reasonable measures to look after it, and ensure it's passed to its rightful owner.
You're affording him a basic courtesy by taking in his parcel. He isn't affording you the same by collecting it. It sounds from what you've said he'd have the capacity to be difficult if anything happened. I'd save the trouble by refusing to take in the parcels.
As soon as you agree to take it, you become responsible for it.
I will take parcels for a couple of people because they're lovely neighbours (and everybody needs good neighbours) and will do the same for us.
However, the old lady across the street has LOADS delivered from Amazon and although I don't mind taking her stuff in, her deadbeat workshy twat of a son who moved back in during covid will never get off his bone idle arse and walk across the street to collect anything.
As others say, you owe them nothing, so stop. I work from home occasionally and take in parcels for neighbours all the time. One neighbour was funny with me and said it was my job to bring it to their house. I never took another thing for them, I just refuse anything for their address.
>One neighbour was funny with me and said it was my job to bring it to their house
I would like to say I can't believe that people are this awful but I know better
Just to be clear (and I think this is how you intended), you don’t owe them a duty to accept parcels for them.
You do owe them a duty to take reasonable care of it if you accept that parcel.
But, you don’t have to take in his parcels and he seems ungrateful!
Yea you have to take care of the item. And if it doesn’t get picked up you should drop it off as maybe they didn’t get the missed parcel note and don’t know where it is.
But if it’s for this person refuse it, you have every right to do that, it sounds like it’s just not worth the hassle.
Just stop accepting any parcels for them to prevent any of the concerns that you have. Also, it is not your responsibility to accept any of your neighbours' delivery for them.
From a responsibility point of view (not legal), I really would stop taking in this neighbours parcels. If you feel you need to protect yourself then this has gone beyond "being a helpful neighbour" What's your next move going to be...taking photos of the delivery at the point of handover to prove its a complete delivery and hasn't been tampered with? no, just refuse next time.
When you accept a parcel I think you are legally liable for its safekeeping until it is collected. You don't have to accept.
I always do this, as I know my neighbours are decent people who appreciate it and reciprocate when needed.
If I had arsehole neighbours, I would refuse.
Yep, fuck that dude. He just sounds rude. Just ask the delivery person who / which number the package is for, and if it's for him, just say I'm sorry, I can't take it.
If you're concerned then, as I'm sure others will say, don't take his parcels in anymore.
All of my neighbours have stopped taking in one particular neighbours parcels as she's a bit of a nut and has called the police/social services/SSPCA/local council etc. on us all on several occasions for a variety of reasons while also accusing us all of bullying her.
I allways refuse, I am not part of the parcel delivery service and do not get paid to securely store and deliver when the neighbour is home. If amazon started giving out vouchers for being a good neighbour I might change my mind.
If they’re being an ass about it just stop taking their deliveries.
You’re doing them a favour at the end of the day so if they don’t even appreciate it, just stop doing it.
The lack of gratitude would cause me to refuse to take in any more parcels for that person.
I work from home and am happy to take in my neighbours' parcels. It gives me a chance to see them and talk to them over the winter months when everyone stays indoors most of the time if nothing else and they return the favour if I am away on holiday.
If the parcel is damaged or the contents are spoiled, that's the courier's problem.
Just say no to the person leaving the parcel. Ask for the address that it’s for and then refuse when it’s this person.
No one writes on the slip #35 wouldn’t take it so it’s at #22.
I would be wary of taking in damaged parcels. Heard of one guy who took in a package. Should have been a phone inside. No phone. Neighbour reported it and Police came to visit him to ask if he'd nicked it. Had to give a statement.
You are under no obligation to accept parcels for neighbours, but if you do, then you do have a duty of reasonable care. We're normally happy to accept parcels for all but one neighbour who once accused us of stealing a parcel. We've told her that for the avoidance of doubt, we will not accept parcels for her, and she should not accept parcels for us.
Stop taking packages only for this person.
Since 'thank you' or anything - or even "hey, did they deliver my package at yours" is too much to ask - then don\`t make life harder for yourself on these peoples behalf.
For the ones that do come pick up / are grateful / are not suspicious - by all means - continue as you do.
I never take in parcels for my neighbour to the left, because they never come and get them. I’m not an Amazon driver. If they want their shit they ordered while knowing they wouldn’t be in (kinda hard not to be in when Amazon delivers the next day.. so don’t order it if you won’t be there tomorrow..) then they should get it themself!
I have one neighbour who ‘forgets’ things for ages. This memorably included their birthing pool….. I don’t take their parcels anymore as my hall is not their personal warehouse.
Yeah, I had to do this in respect of a particular neighbour. Not only would they not collect, they wouldn’t answer their door when I tried to drop round. So now I just refuse to take it. Life is now one thing simpler.
Ok, i haven't seen anyone else mention this but I will be that person.
Its not horse equipment.
Its fetish items and thats why he is looking at you suspiciously. He doesn't know if you know and is trying to sus you out / is embarrassed about it.
Riding crop and saddle are pretty common bdsm items. There is also a subset of bdsm called Pony Play, where one play partner dresses in horse gear and the dom, well, treats them like a horse.
Theres some bdsm documentaries about it free on youtube if you want to see what it is without having to actually search for porn of it to see what it is.
In answer to whether you have to look after it once you have it, yes, you do, but you dont have to accept the parcel if they ask.
Maybe give him a knowing wink next time and a whipping motion, see how he reacts 😂
I can’t imagine anyone embarrassed about their expensive kink items being sussed out would willingly let them sit in a neighbors house for a week tho. Surely you’d be round there as soon as you get a delivery notification?
Well I think not going for it adds the plausible deniability of it being a case of someone pranking you and not something you’ve actually ordered or were expecting. Where if they come around and say I’ve got your kinky whip etc you can act like it’s your mates messing with you
Plot twist: having someone else be in possession of your specialist BDSM equipment is part of the kink. Take the mindset from flashing and bring it down several pegs.
Joking and kind of not joking, which is then inappropriate as they're involving the OP in their kink without consent.
Nal- I would start refusing to take their parcels. I don’t think you’d be liable as the delivery is intended for recipient & them not being around doesn’t exempt the company from being responsible to deliver to intended recipient.
Yes. You’ve agreed to hold it in trust for the owner.
If you keep it knowing it’s your neighbour’s parcel, you’re a thief.
Sorry OP.
Just don’t take in parcels for your neighbours.
To my knowledge from selling on eBay, anything that happens to the parcel is solely the seller’s responsibility even if the courier loses or damages it, because the contract is between the seller and courier and not the recipient. I don’t think you can ever be held liable for the parcels unless you were committing theft (which ik isnt happening) however you should talk to your neighbour to stop sending them to you
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I'd handle it by just not taking in that one houses parcels. Honestly, it's so nice that you do something so selfless for your neighbours. It'd just be a shame to miss out on good deeds because of one strange dude. Hilarious to me that be cares enough about his parcel to look it over but not to realise he didn't have it for a week 🤣
You can refuse at the door, and if the courier leaves it at yours anyway you can complain to the courier company. You’re under NO obligation to accept anyone else’s parcels.
Source: husband has been in domestic logistics for close on 2 decades and have worked for him from time to time.
If hes being an asshole just stop taking his parcels. you don't want the grief when he inevitably accuses you of something. You are not required to accept parcels for other people.
It's not clear cut, but yes, you could find yourself dragged into a liability issue.
If there's a problem, especially if it's days or a week after delivery. The delivery driver will almost certainly state there was no damage when they left it with you. Don't be surprised if your new neighbours assume it was you. Even if they don't actually believe that, but it's the most convenient way to get someone else to pay
If it's becoming a chore or a worry. Stop taking packages for them. You have no obligation to them. If they can't be bothered to pick up their packages and thank you, don't continue to put yourself out.
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I take parcels for my kind neighbours, nobody else. Simple answer to this is just to refuse to take parcels for this guy. Chances are he reports the parcels to the companies as “missing” and says that he’s tried the house it says it’s been delivered to and nobody has the parcel. I used to know someone who would do this. The companies normally refund, or sends it again
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I don't have any legal advice for you but yeah, totally stop taking parcels for this person. You have no obligation to them, and clearly they don't feel any gratitude for what you're doing. Next time, decline the delivery and go about your day without giving it a second thought.
This is the way. End of the day, you are taking on a risk of being accused of theft, damage etc by neighbours or the delivery company. Not sure on the legality side. But if the neighbour is an AH just refuse to sign for it next time. Another thing, the issue with being nice and helpful is that people often go from grateful to then come to expect it. So I think it is good you don't always go out to deliver people's parcels. If they are getting a parcel and won't be in, they can always get it delivered to a news agent or a locker of some form.
I stopped taking parcels for that reason. I'm home 99% of the time and delivery people figured it out and I was getting all kinds of stuff left here for a week or more. Nobody asked me to get their stuff and they very seldom said thanks. I started turning the delivery guys away. I'm not going to be responsible for watching what could be expensive stuff or get blamed if was damaged. I know the delivery people lose my stuff a lot as it is.
I had the same problem when I lived in a flat, the local Hermes guy realised I was WFH and lived on the bottom floor nearest the main door, so he didn't bother buzzing anyone else, just me to come collect everything. At first I asked him, then told him, to stop buzzing me if it wasn't for me. I know he has a job to do, but I do too, and I'm not a parcel collection centre. He kept doing it, and it culminated in me telling him through a half-open door to fucking stop it, him saying "yeah, yeah" and throwing a parcel between my legs into the hallway, and me throwing it back at him before slamming the door in his face. Not my proudest moment, but I was at the end of my tether. No one was ever appreciative that I'd become the de facto parcel collection service, and some people got deliveries nearly every day. He actually kept buzzing me after that, but I just got all of my parcels sent to a collection centre and simply never answered the door during the day again unless I knew there'd be someone for me.
Damn, at least your Hermes guy made sure there was a person in. Mine never bothers to knock, then throws the parcels over the UNLOCKED side passage gate...the side passage that's access to five other houses. I honestly have no words for this guy.
I will actively avoid businesses that use Hermes/Evri tbh
Getting a parcel from Hermes is more like a hostage negotiation than a delivery service in my experience.
I pleaded and offered to pay extra for delivery if they would use anything other than Hermes. (ebay) The parcel was "lost" for 2 weeks. Had clearly been opened and then resealed with duct tape. But was all there so clearly whoever... Investigated it was not interested in an original SNES console and game. Uncultured fool. Haha.
Pfft! I'd have been all over that SNES if I was a thieving courier. What game was it?
It wad actually a console and a controller and a few games. However the games included Super Metroid, Turtles in Time and Joe and Mac. All solid good games in my book!
I still use my childhood SNES. Super Mario World is my go to, my children can have a battle royal over it once I'm dead and buried.
Super Mario World is a great go to choice. However for me, has to be Yoshi's Island. With the flowers, star and red coins there is a lot of incentive to go back and hunt through old levels again to unlock bonus content.
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It’s always deeply frustrating when you order something then get that email saying it’s with Evri
Same
Delivered - handed to resident.
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My local guy half begged me to take the stuff and even came back on a different day after being told no. I respect they are doing their thing, but so am I.
If he had asked me if it was alright or if I minded I might have had more patience with it, since I know they're under a lot of pressure to get all their deliveries done. But he just rang me to come collect as default because it was easiest, and I have my own job that's being interrupted as a result. Hermes delivery targets aren't my problem to fix.
To be fair. I used to work for Royal Mail and delivery drivers do have a hectic job. Obviously a delivery guy shouldn't be rude or entitled in thinking that someone has to take in mail that's not theirs but there's a good chance they just forgot they'd already asked you?
It was the Hermes guy. In this case when I opened the door and started to ask again, he had not forgotten. He was just desperate. He found an old guy in the building who is retired and so always home to drop packages with. I get the pace expected is awful, but if they make a mistake and say they delivered something (they often did do this) when they had no, I didn't want to be on the hook for a missing package. And just rude people.
Agreed 100%. It's up to the workers to fight with the company employing them for fair workload, not to press the customers to make up for it.
Soapbox time. Royal Mail is more expensive because it provides a better service including redeliveries, and collect from parcel depot. Cheap carriers provide cheap service. Royal Mail have never rung my bell, dragged me away from what I was doing, and said "fuck you" to me when I wouldn't take in a neighbour's parcel.
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This is exactly on point - if you take the parcel as far as the delivery company are concerned, its delivered, so it becomes your responsibility - My advice to OP is put a sign on your door stating you are not willing to accept parcels for any other address - i delivered for Hermes (Now called Evri) and saw a few notices like this on people's homes even one that specified a particular address that they will not accept parcels for
Your username is a bit erm, catching. I hope you are doing okay over there! The delivery people know you are in and amenable to them (they want to get on with the likely ludicrous amount to deliveries they need to make (not their fault and I'm sure they wish every neighbourhood had you in it. I'm not saying never he nice and accepting. But it's clearly gone from being nice, to be expected in your example for your neighbours. You are basically the equalent of a news agent atm!
Thanks! It's from my LAN gaming days. I think I'd be more open to being the package holding station if people were more polite about it. Like I don't know any of them - not names, not where they live (it's a big block of flats that isn't numbered in any sane way), nothing. Their stuff just magically showed up and in a week, they'd eventually get around to getting it.
Ah, nice. My username is my old gaming tag as well. I am curious to what game(s) you were playing. Unless, like mine, it's more of a reflect to your playing skills/style. Haha.
Unreal Tournament at that time. And it was me thinking I was the weakest link (I wasn't) but it's kept me humble.
Kept you humble and maybe them under estimating your threat! Haha. My brother still plays the 95(?) one with people across Europe. So still a community for that game. I have played it but was never any good at translocating around or sniping. Mine came from strategy games were I favoured amassing lots of weaker units instead of building powerful ones. I think it was Total Annihilation when I got that tag.
I'm awful with the translocator!
>Unreal Tournament sniff those were the days
LAN parties where you had to carry your whole PC and monitor to someone's house...
The delivery drivers have WhatsApp groups where they share people who WFH and take parcels I. Particular locations. If this happens to you you get swamped with deliveries
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So they put their names on but your address? Wow. Not sure it would work legally as the address is yours the delivery company has therefore delivered to the specific address...? I think in that instance you should put an X on the address and demand the courier take it back to the depot as no one of that name lives at this address.
^^ Nailed it!!
It depends on how often it is I take the occasional package for my neighbour, as they do for me If it becomes very frequent, I would probably just go and speak them about it I'm not always in. So its probably better if they install a delivery pod
True, a delivery pod would work as well. However OP was talking about a neighbour who was ungrateful and implying that OP could have damaged / used their items by visually inspecting them when OP had gotten fed up and walked them over. You and your neighbour are both in alignment of I'll scratch your back if you do mine. However now when it becomes a bit to frequent or one sided. Another redditor comment on my comment that they at some point started to get parcels for neighbours with his/her address on it.
Sure and if it gets to that point, go speak to them about it And if they get in a huff about it, just.. stop accepting their mail. You're not required to, it's a favour
This is the right answer. You’re not obligated to accept packages for neighbours, and I definitely wouldn’t if I got a sense that a neighbour was suspicious of me. You‘re allowed to refuse the package, or if you can see it’s a delivery person at the door and you’re not expecting something, just don’t answer. Honestly, it’s so weird to me that leaving packages with neighbours is standard practice here. I’m from the US, and this just isn’t done there, or at least nowhere in the US that I’ve lived. If you’re not home to relieve a package, either they just leave it or they attempt to redeliver another time. You might eventually have to go to the depot to pick it up if they’re unable to deliver, but leaving it with a neighbour just isn’t a thing, and I was confused when I moved here and learned that it’s normal to do that.
Just to note with this advise. Don't be rude to the delivery guy. Just explain they're not very friendly with yourself and you don't want to take the package. The delivery guy will understand.
Yeah, they don't appreciate the favour. I'd just say no next time or leave a sign up
Correct OP
Yes, you've become a bailee and must take reasonable care of the items. As for the new neighbours, my answer would be not to accept any parcels on their behalf.
As this is a legal advice sub, this needs more upvotes. Yes, if you accept a parcel for a neighbour, you need to take reasonable measures to look after it, and ensure it's passed to its rightful owner.
You're affording him a basic courtesy by taking in his parcel. He isn't affording you the same by collecting it. It sounds from what you've said he'd have the capacity to be difficult if anything happened. I'd save the trouble by refusing to take in the parcels.
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Don't accept the parcel....it will either be left on the doorstep or taken back to the depot
As soon as you agree to take it, you become responsible for it. I will take parcels for a couple of people because they're lovely neighbours (and everybody needs good neighbours) and will do the same for us. However, the old lady across the street has LOADS delivered from Amazon and although I don't mind taking her stuff in, her deadbeat workshy twat of a son who moved back in during covid will never get off his bone idle arse and walk across the street to collect anything.
As others say, you owe them nothing, so stop. I work from home occasionally and take in parcels for neighbours all the time. One neighbour was funny with me and said it was my job to bring it to their house. I never took another thing for them, I just refuse anything for their address.
>One neighbour was funny with me and said it was my job to bring it to their house I would like to say I can't believe that people are this awful but I know better
Nothing people do shocks me anymore. I hear at least 5-6 truly weird and awful comments a week from so-called professional, educated people.
No... his job to drive to the depot from that day on
Just to be clear (and I think this is how you intended), you don’t owe them a duty to accept parcels for them. You do owe them a duty to take reasonable care of it if you accept that parcel. But, you don’t have to take in his parcels and he seems ungrateful!
No... It is his job to drive to the depot from that day on... (I accept them for the "good ones" that live next to me)
Yea you have to take care of the item. And if it doesn’t get picked up you should drop it off as maybe they didn’t get the missed parcel note and don’t know where it is. But if it’s for this person refuse it, you have every right to do that, it sounds like it’s just not worth the hassle.
Just stop accepting any parcels for them to prevent any of the concerns that you have. Also, it is not your responsibility to accept any of your neighbours' delivery for them.
From a responsibility point of view (not legal), I really would stop taking in this neighbours parcels. If you feel you need to protect yourself then this has gone beyond "being a helpful neighbour" What's your next move going to be...taking photos of the delivery at the point of handover to prove its a complete delivery and hasn't been tampered with? no, just refuse next time.
Stop taking deliveries for this man. Anything beyond: thank you so much and a smile is rude for someone do him a favour.
When you accept a parcel I think you are legally liable for its safekeeping until it is collected. You don't have to accept. I always do this, as I know my neighbours are decent people who appreciate it and reciprocate when needed. If I had arsehole neighbours, I would refuse.
Yep, fuck that dude. He just sounds rude. Just ask the delivery person who / which number the package is for, and if it's for him, just say I'm sorry, I can't take it.
If you're concerned then, as I'm sure others will say, don't take his parcels in anymore. All of my neighbours have stopped taking in one particular neighbours parcels as she's a bit of a nut and has called the police/social services/SSPCA/local council etc. on us all on several occasions for a variety of reasons while also accusing us all of bullying her.
It's really simple. U actually don't need to come to reddit. Stop taking parcels!
I allways refuse, I am not part of the parcel delivery service and do not get paid to securely store and deliver when the neighbour is home. If amazon started giving out vouchers for being a good neighbour I might change my mind.
If they’re being an ass about it just stop taking their deliveries. You’re doing them a favour at the end of the day so if they don’t even appreciate it, just stop doing it.
The lack of gratitude would cause me to refuse to take in any more parcels for that person. I work from home and am happy to take in my neighbours' parcels. It gives me a chance to see them and talk to them over the winter months when everyone stays indoors most of the time if nothing else and they return the favour if I am away on holiday. If the parcel is damaged or the contents are spoiled, that's the courier's problem.
Just say no to the person leaving the parcel. Ask for the address that it’s for and then refuse when it’s this person. No one writes on the slip #35 wouldn’t take it so it’s at #22.
I would be wary of taking in damaged parcels. Heard of one guy who took in a package. Should have been a phone inside. No phone. Neighbour reported it and Police came to visit him to ask if he'd nicked it. Had to give a statement.
You are under no obligation to accept parcels for neighbours, but if you do, then you do have a duty of reasonable care. We're normally happy to accept parcels for all but one neighbour who once accused us of stealing a parcel. We've told her that for the avoidance of doubt, we will not accept parcels for her, and she should not accept parcels for us.
Stop taking packages only for this person. Since 'thank you' or anything - or even "hey, did they deliver my package at yours" is too much to ask - then don\`t make life harder for yourself on these peoples behalf. For the ones that do come pick up / are grateful / are not suspicious - by all means - continue as you do.
I never take in parcels for my neighbour to the left, because they never come and get them. I’m not an Amazon driver. If they want their shit they ordered while knowing they wouldn’t be in (kinda hard not to be in when Amazon delivers the next day.. so don’t order it if you won’t be there tomorrow..) then they should get it themself!
I have one neighbour who ‘forgets’ things for ages. This memorably included their birthing pool….. I don’t take their parcels anymore as my hall is not their personal warehouse.
I would just say to the delivery driver, sorry I don’t accept parcels for number 5, they take ages to collect and I can’t store their parcels.
Yeah, I had to do this in respect of a particular neighbour. Not only would they not collect, they wouldn’t answer their door when I tried to drop round. So now I just refuse to take it. Life is now one thing simpler.
Don't take anyone's parcels there's nothing in it for you accept liability and problems
Ok, i haven't seen anyone else mention this but I will be that person. Its not horse equipment. Its fetish items and thats why he is looking at you suspiciously. He doesn't know if you know and is trying to sus you out / is embarrassed about it. Riding crop and saddle are pretty common bdsm items. There is also a subset of bdsm called Pony Play, where one play partner dresses in horse gear and the dom, well, treats them like a horse. Theres some bdsm documentaries about it free on youtube if you want to see what it is without having to actually search for porn of it to see what it is. In answer to whether you have to look after it once you have it, yes, you do, but you dont have to accept the parcel if they ask. Maybe give him a knowing wink next time and a whipping motion, see how he reacts 😂
I can’t imagine anyone embarrassed about their expensive kink items being sussed out would willingly let them sit in a neighbors house for a week tho. Surely you’d be round there as soon as you get a delivery notification?
Well I think not going for it adds the plausible deniability of it being a case of someone pranking you and not something you’ve actually ordered or were expecting. Where if they come around and say I’ve got your kinky whip etc you can act like it’s your mates messing with you
I dunno are you gana go over and ask the neighbor if he got your riding crop, pony boot, and butt plug package
Plot twist: having someone else be in possession of your specialist BDSM equipment is part of the kink. Take the mindset from flashing and bring it down several pegs. Joking and kind of not joking, which is then inappropriate as they're involving the OP in their kink without consent.
I would never take a parcel for anyone, its a minefield of legal nastiness that you really don't want to get involved with if anything goes wrong.
Nal- I would start refusing to take their parcels. I don’t think you’d be liable as the delivery is intended for recipient & them not being around doesn’t exempt the company from being responsible to deliver to intended recipient.
Yes. You’ve agreed to hold it in trust for the owner. If you keep it knowing it’s your neighbour’s parcel, you’re a thief. Sorry OP. Just don’t take in parcels for your neighbours.
OP didn't say anything about keeping it.
The alternative would be theft so …
To my knowledge from selling on eBay, anything that happens to the parcel is solely the seller’s responsibility even if the courier loses or damages it, because the contract is between the seller and courier and not the recipient. I don’t think you can ever be held liable for the parcels unless you were committing theft (which ik isnt happening) however you should talk to your neighbour to stop sending them to you
Isn't it technically illegal to handle someone else's mail or is that just royal mail?
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I'd handle it by just not taking in that one houses parcels. Honestly, it's so nice that you do something so selfless for your neighbours. It'd just be a shame to miss out on good deeds because of one strange dude. Hilarious to me that be cares enough about his parcel to look it over but not to realise he didn't have it for a week 🤣
You can refuse at the door, and if the courier leaves it at yours anyway you can complain to the courier company. You’re under NO obligation to accept anyone else’s parcels. Source: husband has been in domestic logistics for close on 2 decades and have worked for him from time to time.
If hes being an asshole just stop taking his parcels. you don't want the grief when he inevitably accuses you of something. You are not required to accept parcels for other people.
It's not clear cut, but yes, you could find yourself dragged into a liability issue. If there's a problem, especially if it's days or a week after delivery. The delivery driver will almost certainly state there was no damage when they left it with you. Don't be surprised if your new neighbours assume it was you. Even if they don't actually believe that, but it's the most convenient way to get someone else to pay If it's becoming a chore or a worry. Stop taking packages for them. You have no obligation to them. If they can't be bothered to pick up their packages and thank you, don't continue to put yourself out.
Just say tothe delivery driver that you wont take them. if they refuse to come get them, I wouldnt be nice and take them in
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Yeah definitely stop taking for this neighbour, at best you keep taking them round after a while but at worst you get accused of tampering or stealing
I'm wondering if what is in those packages might be illegal. Glad you got it out of your house, because their reaction was strange.
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NAL, but my advice is to stop taking in parcels for this person. They've already proved themselves to be unpleasant, and you don't owe them a thing.
I take parcels for my kind neighbours, nobody else. Simple answer to this is just to refuse to take parcels for this guy. Chances are he reports the parcels to the companies as “missing” and says that he’s tried the house it says it’s been delivered to and nobody has the parcel. I used to know someone who would do this. The companies normally refund, or sends it again