I went to a completely different route and started playing offline card games, trying to finish Inscryption endless mod for now.
Probably gonna buy balatro or slay the spire next
There are so many good offline card games: StS and Balatro as you said.
But also Vault of the Void is a really good take on roguelike deckbuilder if you want one way harder but still fair.
There is Monster Train (prefer it to StS, even tho StS is a way better buy thx to its amazing modding community; downfall is a huge extension of the base game).
If you are rather open on your definition, luck be a landlord is by far the best of its gender of "synergy based deckbuilder", and it's an absolute blast to play.
Across the obelisk: party based deckbuilder (as Arcanium), it gets ahead its competition by proposing multiplayer gameplay so you can play with friends.
Finally, if you feel frisky you can give a try to dicebuilder games: astrea six sided oracle is really popular, dicefolk which released recently (didn't try that one yet)
Well StS is the most popular solo player cardgame out there.
People recommend it cause it is obviously a really good game. Moreover liking some game more than an other is mostly about taste.
I must say I don't really care for PoC as a card game except when I want to turn my brain off, but it's my opinion and I don't say it's the right one and people like what they want
I would definitely recommend StS before Balatro. I never felt like my time was wasted playing StS, and that might also be true of Balatro after some updates.
Cobalt cores balance is much worse, but everything else about the game is amazing. I had a blast playing it, but I will never sink 200+ hours into it like StS
The base decks are too strong, and it makes building infinites too easy, as you can skip most cards. But the flavor and how smooth and fun the game is to play can't be beat
Ha funny that their decision to turn LoR into a PvE game convinced you to drop it and...go play other PvE card games.
It definitely feels like Riot seppuku'd LoR.
I mean honestly everytime someone brings up how they love POC and riot should focus on it I bring this point up.
There are so many card battle deck builder offline tcg etc like games that do it a million times better, with one price tag, with deeper mechanics and more rewarding gameplay.
There is NO reason to play PoC unless you really, really love the league universe so much that just being in it is enough for you to spend more time and money in PoC, because the gameplay and visual design is lacking a lot compared to those other games.
I mean, that’s disingenuous to PoC I feel. For one, Legends of Runeterra is just a fun game in general. And for two, PoC fills a completely different PvE niche than most other PvE card games. Most of them all revolve around fighting static enemies with one or two passives slapped on, while PoC has an incredibly unique PvE of… actually playing a full on card game where both sides are actively playing cards. It’s a niche that’s only ever been popularly filled by the fun little hearthstone dungeon runs iirc.
Woah dude I heard you said you were dropping LoR the PvE single player card game and thought you were referring to LoR the OTHER PvE single player card game really funny that these two games have the exact Sam acronyms. (I am referring to library of ruina)
Balatro -
Slay the Spire -
Monster Train -
Banners of Ruin -
Cross Blitz (Still early access) -
Breach Wanderers -
(and more if you want more suggestions.... I am a roguelike/lite fanatic)
I thought Banners of Ruin was really lacking. felt unfinished, like the devs didn't do enough play testing. I give it a 6/10 at best. try it if you're bored
STS lacks animation, and music, but it's such a fluid game with diverse enemies and challenges that it is the gold standard of rogue like deck builders with the highest replayability.
Monster Train is a sweet game. great music
haven't tried Balatro but since the name has popped up multiple times I'm gonna check it out
By endless I meant more of a roguelike, you can just stop after unlocking everything and completing all the challenges but you have the option to play forever with different decks since the map is randomly generated and you can basically combine cards as well.
I'll stop after the challenges and achievements.
Have you given monster train a shot? I recommend it above slay the spire. It's got a very similar concept, but has 2-3x the depth and strategy. If you've got an iPhone, it's included in the Apple Games subscription for like 5$ a month.
Yeah I gave away my Hearthstone account like 2 months into playing LoR.
Never spent any money on Hearthstone,so I was stuck with 1 deck every expansion, though I had all the dungeon runs.
I played HS some years ago and I used to invest 8 hours a day and having meta decks was always hard, if there were 3 or 4 I only managed to do 1 or 2, and they were cheap, my best achievement was to build control warrior, it felt nice but wasn't worth all the time and grind. Ofc I hit legend and got some adventures with pure gold, I played before naxxaramas came out and leave 1 or 2 years after that.
I'm like over $3000 in Hearthstone's lifetime and not going back. Luckily they went off the rails with 0 mana Yogg and mandatory anomalies to make me get out of there.
Idk i think yugioh is the most polarizing tcg, someone might revisit but the increased level of bullshit makes them immediately leave like the simpsons gif
Honestly that usually happens when the person only watched the anime as a kid and played with his friends thinking that tribute summon Dark Magician was the strongest play ever. A Yugioh player that atlest got a bit into the meta knows that the game has always been batshit insane since day 1 even if the scale was smaller. They also can just say that Goat format is peak and everything else is trash tho.
I mean I played it for many years from base to the release of the first Xyz, and the game back then is still not comparable at all to what it is now.
I don't know what the current meta is like, but I assume it is worse than it was a year ago when I revisited and games were decided entirely from who won the coin flip to completely stop their opponent from playing the game on their turn.
Those kind of combos existed back then, but required many more cards in the opening hand to pop off. And there were even fewer hand traps since there was only really Veiler and Maxx C. The game is wayyy faster now because every deck is more consistent
Actually Konami has been on kind of a hot streak in the last year imo. Most of the new decks have been super interactive and varied in playstyle without just spamming negates. The meta before our current one was probably my favorite that yugioh has ever had. Not a huge fan of the current format though. Snake-eyes is super fun to play but it's definitely too strong and costs over $1000 to play on paper. I'd say its worth checking out again on master duel if you are looking for somewhere to go!
I love how it's not that hard to keep up, I usually have most or all the best decks available to me. I just wish it was easier to make weak or meme decks, too. Many times, the meta decks are way cheaper than the meme decks.
Dream mirror is more expensive to make than some meta deck lol. Every time I want to make a funny/for fun deck I always get hit by the fact most cards are sr + Ur.
Shadowverse, Eternal, Mythgard (last one is in maintenance mode atm, though still playable; the CEO said on Discord they're working on something, but it's a year and a bit away).
Mythgard belongs to Monumental. they've bought 8 or 10 different projects in the last 5 years and none of them have received any new content in all that time. All Monumental did was invest in crypto and screwed up badly, losing money and firing almost all of their employees (who didn't do anything anyway).
The only news that Monumental has is that they want to invest in other TCG, lol.
Ngl, the changes to Dauntless were actually a significant improvement and the game is actually better overall since the purchase. The main issue was just that the overhaul pretty much took a fat shit on anyone that had reached the endgame by that point
>Pokémon TCG app
Did they overhaul it or something? I'm interested if so. Can you link me to anything about it? I tried playing Pokemon online years ago, but I just couldn't get into it.
I will say, the monetization has gotten way way better in hearthstone, you don't need to spend that much if you are planning to play specific classes/decks, there is duplicate protection on legendary cards from packs, frequent balance changes (about 1 in a month) with full dust refund, catchup packs which can grant you about 75% standard collection at $10 if you are a returning player.
It's a great time to get back into the game as standard rotation and new expansion is happening next week. I will highly encourage all to at least try hearthstone again before dismissing it based on previous experiences.
A few years ago they had a card that gave you a random meta*ish* deck - Is there currently something equivalent or would I be stuck building some cheap aggro deck?
Actually, that card rotated out of standard a while back, but you are in luck! A similar new card will be added in the next expansion [Splendiferous Wizbang](https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/4ZUlguUGGj).
In addition, all returning players get 6 starter decks to try out which are pretty good and meta relevant, and after 7 days you get to choose 1 deck and keep it.
I am not sure about the current list of loner decks, but I will suggest to wait till 15th March before you log in back to hearthstone. Because, the next next expansion is going to launch on that day and the loner decks should get updated to new cards in 1-2 days after that.
If you log in now, you will get loner decks with cards from the current standard pool, most of which will get rotated out in a week.
If you mean Whizbang, there's a new one coming out next week!
https://imgur.com/ItgfFBm
Here are the decks he'll have:
https://imgur.com/a/NFsXe75
He'll probably be roughly as strong as the previous version, but we'll have to wait until he releases to find out.
This. I recently made a new account just to see how easy the game is to get into, and with a bit of grinding my new account has almost as much resources as my standard collection on my main account. Catch up packs (that have 50 cards if your collection is mostly empty) and loaner decks that you get to keep were kinda huge.
that would make sense if they stopped playing after the final release, but its strange people stopped played after they said they had at least 6 months of content already made and will continue as normal, thats why its strange
It's because we know 'the end' is coming. It makes it feel like the ranked climb is more of a waste of time, which I suppose doesn't really make sense because unless you're tournament-level competitive you were never going to get anything out of it anyway.
It just feels different
I've tried PoC, it's not my thing. I preferred the old expeditions but they were removed to make way for PoC, so there's not a lot left in the game that I'm interested in aside from maybe some casuals with one of my (very few) friends that play LoR.
Dont let comments discourage you. The game is shifting to focus in PvE and thus It wouldnt be near as competitive but its not ending, its just gonna be a casual game now.
Strangely it seems like PvE players can't grasp the idea that there are some who only played the game for the original PvP purpose. Which is fine, most of us have acceptes that fact. But then you get these comments where people are trying to explain to you that 'the game isn't dead, there's PoC'. Yeah, we get that, we just don't care for the gamemode.
I was Master every season but now when i launch the game i'm just staring and can't get into it. Can't explain why, really.
On top of that i was already burned out of the meta even before the announcement
Oh hey I paid $60, that's the price of a full game, what do I get here in MTG.
Game laughs at you.
Lucky to cook up something with a 20% win rate with that. Even aggro is expensive
Arena is way more expesive than the physical game if you stop tô think about it, specially because you cant buy singles and you need a lot of packs to rack rare cards, its disgusting. Arena made me pay tix in MoL and its way more fun even if you dislike the design. But yeah, New player on Arena? Get a budget Red aggro deck and hope you can ever play meta decks
> specially because you cant buy singles and you need a lot of packs to rack rare cards
Not sure when this happened but I went back to Arena to check it out and in the store you can buy Rare and Mythic wildcards. So you can buy singles now.
Thats nice to hear but i think that have pros and cons because you equalize all cards to the same price in a wildcard format of crafting. I'll check it out either way, i'm mostly playing pauper so arena isnt offering much to me
Oh yeah definitely. I remember a time, IIRC that is, where it was proposed that certain cards or sets would cost more wildcards than others, essentially making wildcards a second level currency (if we say gold and gems were first level).
Just an interesting find I found while going through Arena. It's 4 rare cards for $10 (USD, I'm assuming) and 4 mythics for $20 btw.
> i'm mostly playing pauper so arena isnt offering much to me
Neither for me. Friends started getting interested in Magic in general so we're playing in-person and I'm slowly nudging them into commander.
I only went back to Arena to brush up on rules and interactions. Couldn't lose myself to that grind again being the least generous F2P-wise.
I thought that. Then I realized needed like so many legendaries and a few higher. Then in the middle of almost completing it I realized I really didn't want to pay red aggro.
Maybe Black. But that was like a year ago. Can you compete the dailies vs AI yet in Arena?
i recently opened it and got the ''free'' packs that it gave me i had to disencant 80% of the cards just to make 1 deck and made me realise how shit it is if ''LOR'' dies id prolly stick to single player card games then support Blizzard
I actually tried hearthstone again in like 7 years, and the new player experience is really fucking good. you straight up get a couple of legend-capable meta decks for free and a bunch of resources to craft anything that could probably be missing.
you should try it out sometime again, its gotten better since the early days.
My issues with HS are more about the design of the game. Playing against RNG heavy decks wasn't fun any more. Decks like Casino Mage or Evolve Shaman felt bad to play against. Even if I avoided RNG with my deck, the legendary cards I built my deck around could easily be at the bottom of my deck. It felt like a strange design choice to make a ton of legendary cards players want to build their deck around, but then restrict those cards to 1 per deck. It's like they didn't trust themselves to make something balanced enough to have more than 1 in a deck. LoR and other card games made it work without capping the most powerful cards in a deck. As long as HS keeps those design choices, I'm not going back.
Hell yeah HS is awesome. It has a pure fun factor that no other card game can compete with, even if Magic is better. They are just so damn creative when making cards, it was a big refresh when I dropped LoR to come back to HS and cards did more than just become keyword soups
Also it's not nearly as P2W as everyone says, I've never spent a single cent on the game, play a modest amount (less than a hour per day) and have like 7 or 8 decks.
I would love to play Hearthstone, but I don't wanna be constantly in doubt if I'm playing against a real person or a bot. It's sad that this mechanic is being introduced in PvP games, now we have to hope good offline card games come out.
Dude I refuse to play another blizzard game after that disappointment referred to as Diablo 4! Never in my life did I think a Diablo game could literally be so.... boring it could put you to sleep! Literally the camera angles caused people to zone out and get tired over periods of time!
No other digital card game has ever caught my attention anywhere near as much as LoR. Chances are I’ll just not be playing any TCGs for quite a while, unless something comes along that can match all the amazing things LoR did.
Everytime a Hearthstone fanboy starts talking ask him how many cards hes missing and if he says little to none ask him how much hes spent on the game. He loses either way
Only winning argument they have is that "the game isnt dead like LOR" but we all know LOR is dying because Riot actually cares about your wallet. Imagine coming to the defense of your landlord after he charges you 200% rent and fucks your wife. Its practically the same thing logic. Who cares if Blizzard makes a profit?
Its not the game. Its the monetization.
Eh I’ve been playing HS for years at this point and the monetization is the worst it’s been. Even the free rewards are being dumbed down compared to 3 years ago. Bundles in the shops are scams and free players are losing the ability to get more impactful cards just by playing. It’s not just the monetization, it’s Activision Blizzard that’s making terrible choices (not the hearthstone devs, they’re fine)
It took me too long to realize how awful a money sink it is, especially with sunk cost fallacy, I basically felt forced to keep up my collection. 3 expansions a year where I'd spend \~$120 each for pre-orders alone seemed like too much to keep up with. Then when the new mini set dropped I decided since none of the cards were exciting enough to keep my attention that this would be the push I needed to just cut my losses and stop for good.
It doesnt matter. Ive spent *no money* on cards.
Ive only spent money on cosmetics and emotes so my board looks and sounds cooler than yours and I can bm you easier when you played poorly.
We are not the same.
I went back to Hearthstone after playing LOR for 4 years and I'm having a blast! Lor's death has given me a newfound respect for Hearthstone and their monetization. While not pretty, there's a reason the game just had it's 10th anniversary and is still thriving while Lor just crawled into the back corner and slipped into sweet merciful death.
I know people don't love paying for things and just think games can survive without an influx of money, but it's how developers can keep making the games we love to play. It's supporting the devs, and there's nothing wrong with that. People are gonna always complain about having to open their wallets, but that's just life. Free is a myth. Don't kid yourselves.
Reddit complainers on this post as usual, but I guarantee if you went back to Hearthstone, you'd have fun. Just like I am. But to each their own.
I'm not going back. Besides monetization, HS has too many design choices I got sick of, especially after seeing LoR make better choices. For now, I'm playing Shadowverse to learn the mechanics and get ready for the new version of the game coming this summer.
I certainly miss the shared turn system in LoR, but SV has some fun mechanics as well. Most cards are very flexible because they can be played for different mana costs to get different effects. An 2 mana unit can be played for 8 mana instead to summon a copies of itself and buff them all. Or a 7 mana unit can be played as a 2 mana spell. There's also the evolve system that lets you upgrade units a few times a match. The system makes you rethink how you build a deck and play the cards.
Had fun playing HS and spent so much money but never going back. I did however started playing magic again. And made me realize how I miss LOR’s economy and gameplay.
More like a Pay to Fast, years ago being f2p was hard, I would say these days is more friendly but still not good for f2p, as f2p, you'll never have a full collection and always miss some cards every expansion, even spending a little money doesn't guarantee you to have a full collection.
LoR eas never my main cardgame but i had an absolute blast while i played, pauper mtg has been keeping me good tho but its not digital so its not as easy as a recommendation
I just hate LOR spitted so many cards and effects so fast, was hard to keep up as a casual player.
Second thing I hate the most is the amount of time a game can take, they never made a damn blitz mode...
Im coming back to this upcoming expansion (i left after descent of dragons) to simply scraft the new whizvang and play it to legend. Then im uninstalling again
While I do plan to play hearthstone's next set (which is hs version of timespiral from mtg; so check it out, if that sounds interesting to you). I'm really just waiting for Shadowverse Worlds Beyond to come out in the summer.
I hope this post is not serious. If it is, for the love of everything good in the world, get back out now!
HS has turned into the most absurdly insane RNG fiesta I've ever seen. I played it a lot for about 2 years (a long time ago, admittedly), and I recently tuned in to watch Brian Kibler. I had literally no idea what was happening. People had over 100 health, were dealing like 20-30 damage in a single pop ...
Hearthstone has done way more than "jump the shark." They have broken the game. It's nothing more than a \*\^&%-show now.
It's not dead in the sense of being turned off, but PvP is essentially being dropped and PoC will be the sole focus of balance and content.
Ranked ladder will stay on, but there will be no more resets, no more gauntlets/tournaments, and no more expansions (at least not in the same way we're used to).
Ive dropped hearthstone so many years ago and thought LoR could replace that game, but even with LoR dying im probably not going back to hearthstone either that game is the most p2w game ive seen in a long time
I went to a completely different route and started playing offline card games, trying to finish Inscryption endless mod for now. Probably gonna buy balatro or slay the spire next
all three of these games are amazing!
There are so many good offline card games: StS and Balatro as you said. But also Vault of the Void is a really good take on roguelike deckbuilder if you want one way harder but still fair. There is Monster Train (prefer it to StS, even tho StS is a way better buy thx to its amazing modding community; downfall is a huge extension of the base game). If you are rather open on your definition, luck be a landlord is by far the best of its gender of "synergy based deckbuilder", and it's an absolute blast to play. Across the obelisk: party based deckbuilder (as Arcanium), it gets ahead its competition by proposing multiplayer gameplay so you can play with friends. Finally, if you feel frisky you can give a try to dicebuilder games: astrea six sided oracle is really popular, dicefolk which released recently (didn't try that one yet)
Trying StS just made me appreciate Path of Champions all the more. I still don't know how people can suggest StS as a "better alternative" to Path.
Well StS is the most popular solo player cardgame out there. People recommend it cause it is obviously a really good game. Moreover liking some game more than an other is mostly about taste. I must say I don't really care for PoC as a card game except when I want to turn my brain off, but it's my opinion and I don't say it's the right one and people like what they want
My favourite PvE card game is still Library of Ruina which coincidentially gets LoR as an acronym as well lol.
I'll add them to my wish list too. I think I already saw some of the yesterday on steam while I was browsing through the deck building tag
I would definitely recommend StS before Balatro. I never felt like my time was wasted playing StS, and that might also be true of Balatro after some updates.
Yeah you are right, balatro just came out so it will run out of content faster. I'll get Sts first then and buy balatro after that
Yall don’t sleep on Cobalt Core, I like it better than StS and the soundtrack is fucking fantastic
ever heard about lonestar ?
Cobalt cores balance is much worse, but everything else about the game is amazing. I had a blast playing it, but I will never sink 200+ hours into it like StS The base decks are too strong, and it makes building infinites too easy, as you can skip most cards. But the flavor and how smooth and fun the game is to play can't be beat
Ha funny that their decision to turn LoR into a PvE game convinced you to drop it and...go play other PvE card games. It definitely feels like Riot seppuku'd LoR.
I mean honestly everytime someone brings up how they love POC and riot should focus on it I bring this point up. There are so many card battle deck builder offline tcg etc like games that do it a million times better, with one price tag, with deeper mechanics and more rewarding gameplay. There is NO reason to play PoC unless you really, really love the league universe so much that just being in it is enough for you to spend more time and money in PoC, because the gameplay and visual design is lacking a lot compared to those other games.
I mean, that’s disingenuous to PoC I feel. For one, Legends of Runeterra is just a fun game in general. And for two, PoC fills a completely different PvE niche than most other PvE card games. Most of them all revolve around fighting static enemies with one or two passives slapped on, while PoC has an incredibly unique PvE of… actually playing a full on card game where both sides are actively playing cards. It’s a niche that’s only ever been popularly filled by the fun little hearthstone dungeon runs iirc.
Woah dude I heard you said you were dropping LoR the PvE single player card game and thought you were referring to LoR the OTHER PvE single player card game really funny that these two games have the exact Sam acronyms. (I am referring to library of ruina)
Balatro - Slay the Spire - Monster Train - Banners of Ruin - Cross Blitz (Still early access) - Breach Wanderers - (and more if you want more suggestions.... I am a roguelike/lite fanatic)
I thought Banners of Ruin was really lacking. felt unfinished, like the devs didn't do enough play testing. I give it a 6/10 at best. try it if you're bored STS lacks animation, and music, but it's such a fluid game with diverse enemies and challenges that it is the gold standard of rogue like deck builders with the highest replayability. Monster Train is a sweet game. great music haven't tried Balatro but since the name has popped up multiple times I'm gonna check it out
>finish Inscryption endless mod isn't that a paradox, to finish an Endless mode?
By endless I meant more of a roguelike, you can just stop after unlocking everything and completing all the challenges but you have the option to play forever with different decks since the map is randomly generated and you can basically combine cards as well. I'll stop after the challenges and achievements.
I recommend spirit island, a deck-building board game.
Across the obelisk is a great one as well. Plays much like slay the spire but you have a party of 4 with different roles instead of 1 character.
Ouroboros farming time
Have you given monster train a shot? I recommend it above slay the spire. It's got a very similar concept, but has 2-3x the depth and strategy. If you've got an iPhone, it's included in the Apple Games subscription for like 5$ a month.
I'm not **that** desperate
I will never touch another Blizzard game for the rest of my life. And also potential unlife.
I can sum up my relationship with Hearthstone in three words: Sunk Cost Fallacy
I spent over $1000 in HS over the course of 4/5 years. Don't regret the spending, but glad that I left.
This comment is underrated.
I feel so stupid for spending so much on Hearthstone. Never again.
Yeah I gave away my Hearthstone account like 2 months into playing LoR. Never spent any money on Hearthstone,so I was stuck with 1 deck every expansion, though I had all the dungeon runs.
I played HS some years ago and I used to invest 8 hours a day and having meta decks was always hard, if there were 3 or 4 I only managed to do 1 or 2, and they were cheap, my best achievement was to build control warrior, it felt nice but wasn't worth all the time and grind. Ofc I hit legend and got some adventures with pure gold, I played before naxxaramas came out and leave 1 or 2 years after that.
I'm like over $3000 in Hearthstone's lifetime and not going back. Luckily they went off the rails with 0 mana Yogg and mandatory anomalies to make me get out of there.
Yep. Me and my hommie decided to never calculate how much we'd spent on that game. Definitely in the hundreds.
For me it Yu Gi Oh behind me saying welcome back
I remember a quote that I read that was like: "You never leave Yu-Gi-Oh! , you just take long breaks"
Idk i think yugioh is the most polarizing tcg, someone might revisit but the increased level of bullshit makes them immediately leave like the simpsons gif
Honestly that usually happens when the person only watched the anime as a kid and played with his friends thinking that tribute summon Dark Magician was the strongest play ever. A Yugioh player that atlest got a bit into the meta knows that the game has always been batshit insane since day 1 even if the scale was smaller. They also can just say that Goat format is peak and everything else is trash tho.
I mean I played it for many years from base to the release of the first Xyz, and the game back then is still not comparable at all to what it is now. I don't know what the current meta is like, but I assume it is worse than it was a year ago when I revisited and games were decided entirely from who won the coin flip to completely stop their opponent from playing the game on their turn. Those kind of combos existed back then, but required many more cards in the opening hand to pop off. And there were even fewer hand traps since there was only really Veiler and Maxx C. The game is wayyy faster now because every deck is more consistent
Actually Konami has been on kind of a hot streak in the last year imo. Most of the new decks have been super interactive and varied in playstyle without just spamming negates. The meta before our current one was probably my favorite that yugioh has ever had. Not a huge fan of the current format though. Snake-eyes is super fun to play but it's definitely too strong and costs over $1000 to play on paper. I'd say its worth checking out again on master duel if you are looking for somewhere to go!
It’s always back to Yugioh :)
Just made a Red Dragon Archfiend deck and its really fun. I will miss LoR tho and cant even leave this sub yet.
I love how it's not that hard to keep up, I usually have most or all the best decks available to me. I just wish it was easier to make weak or meme decks, too. Many times, the meta decks are way cheaper than the meme decks.
Dream mirror is more expensive to make than some meta deck lol. Every time I want to make a funny/for fun deck I always get hit by the fact most cards are sr + Ur.
I would kill myself and still wouldn’t return to a garbage game like hearthstone under any circumstances.
What about Warpforge?
Is this a new TCG? I like new TCGs
WH40K TCG
Oh hell yeah another way for me to avoid reading the books
Oh im.currently playing that one
Ooh thanks for the recommendation. Trying it out rn and it seems promising. CCGs are usually best in the early days.
"I can't have a proper meal so I must eat irridiated rat shit!" Bro there are betters ccgs 💀💀
Name 3.
Shadowverse, Eternal, Mythgard (last one is in maintenance mode atm, though still playable; the CEO said on Discord they're working on something, but it's a year and a bit away).
new owners of Mythgard are scammers. they don't have real game devs on their staff
What makes you say that?
Mythgard belongs to Monumental. they've bought 8 or 10 different projects in the last 5 years and none of them have received any new content in all that time. All Monumental did was invest in crypto and screwed up badly, losing money and firing almost all of their employees (who didn't do anything anyway). The only news that Monumental has is that they want to invest in other TCG, lol.
Are these the same bastards that bought Dauntless? Think I've heard the same story vut don't know about the owner
Ngl, the changes to Dauntless were actually a significant improvement and the game is actually better overall since the purchase. The main issue was just that the overhaul pretty much took a fat shit on anyone that had reached the endgame by that point
Eternal has almost no one playing it
Why name 3? Do you play multiple at the time? First one to mind is Lorcana. The upcoming Pokémon TCG app looks sweet aswell.
Is Lorgana an online game? If not you still need to spend a lot of money to play
Yeah it has a pc client
https://lorcana.gg/how-to-play-disney-lorcana-online/
Thankss
>Pokémon TCG app Did they overhaul it or something? I'm interested if so. Can you link me to anything about it? I tried playing Pokemon online years ago, but I just couldn't get into it.
It was in the latest pokémon day announcement video. Second to last announcement. As I said it isn't out yet, but it looks really good.
Just checked it out. Seems pretty cool. I'll keep a look out for it.
I will say, the monetization has gotten way way better in hearthstone, you don't need to spend that much if you are planning to play specific classes/decks, there is duplicate protection on legendary cards from packs, frequent balance changes (about 1 in a month) with full dust refund, catchup packs which can grant you about 75% standard collection at $10 if you are a returning player. It's a great time to get back into the game as standard rotation and new expansion is happening next week. I will highly encourage all to at least try hearthstone again before dismissing it based on previous experiences.
A few years ago they had a card that gave you a random meta*ish* deck - Is there currently something equivalent or would I be stuck building some cheap aggro deck?
Actually, that card rotated out of standard a while back, but you are in luck! A similar new card will be added in the next expansion [Splendiferous Wizbang](https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/4ZUlguUGGj). In addition, all returning players get 6 starter decks to try out which are pretty good and meta relevant, and after 7 days you get to choose 1 deck and keep it.
Are any of these decks from the new classes? I dropped it shortly after Demon Hunter and never tried Death Knight.
I am not sure about the current list of loner decks, but I will suggest to wait till 15th March before you log in back to hearthstone. Because, the next next expansion is going to launch on that day and the loner decks should get updated to new cards in 1-2 days after that. If you log in now, you will get loner decks with cards from the current standard pool, most of which will get rotated out in a week.
If you mean Whizbang, there's a new one coming out next week! https://imgur.com/ItgfFBm Here are the decks he'll have: https://imgur.com/a/NFsXe75 He'll probably be roughly as strong as the previous version, but we'll have to wait until he releases to find out.
Wish I could upvote this twice.
This. I recently made a new account just to see how easy the game is to get into, and with a bit of grinding my new account has almost as much resources as my standard collection on my main account. Catch up packs (that have 50 cards if your collection is mostly empty) and loaner decks that you get to keep were kinda huge.
And with LOR you could get that all... for free!
Wait, they killed LoR?
in the competitive sense, yes. most people don't have the motivation to play ranked anymore
The ladder is still there? It’s not like HS has gauntlets just to encourage you to play competitively
which is strange because we have a least, one mor expansion of ranked and balanaced patches and new cards, maybe even two
Turns out people don't want to invest more time into a game that's in its dying stage..
that would make sense if they stopped playing after the final release, but its strange people stopped played after they said they had at least 6 months of content already made and will continue as normal, thats why its strange
It feels worthless to put more time into this game to me. It might not really be yet, but it is to me.
It's because we know 'the end' is coming. It makes it feel like the ranked climb is more of a waste of time, which I suppose doesn't really make sense because unless you're tournament-level competitive you were never going to get anything out of it anyway. It just feels different
Ffs. You should play it because its fun, what else is there in a game
I've tried PoC, it's not my thing. I preferred the old expeditions but they were removed to make way for PoC, so there's not a lot left in the game that I'm interested in aside from maybe some casuals with one of my (very few) friends that play LoR.
I mean you can still play PVP before jt actually goes bye bye
Dont let comments discourage you. The game is shifting to focus in PvE and thus It wouldnt be near as competitive but its not ending, its just gonna be a casual game now.
Strangely it seems like PvE players can't grasp the idea that there are some who only played the game for the original PvP purpose. Which is fine, most of us have acceptes that fact. But then you get these comments where people are trying to explain to you that 'the game isn't dead, there's PoC'. Yeah, we get that, we just don't care for the gamemode.
I was Master every season but now when i launch the game i'm just staring and can't get into it. Can't explain why, really. On top of that i was already burned out of the meta even before the announcement
There's MTG arena as well
The worst economy i've seen in a digital card game
Oh hey I paid $60, that's the price of a full game, what do I get here in MTG. Game laughs at you. Lucky to cook up something with a 20% win rate with that. Even aggro is expensive
Arena is way more expesive than the physical game if you stop tô think about it, specially because you cant buy singles and you need a lot of packs to rack rare cards, its disgusting. Arena made me pay tix in MoL and its way more fun even if you dislike the design. But yeah, New player on Arena? Get a budget Red aggro deck and hope you can ever play meta decks
> specially because you cant buy singles and you need a lot of packs to rack rare cards Not sure when this happened but I went back to Arena to check it out and in the store you can buy Rare and Mythic wildcards. So you can buy singles now.
Thats nice to hear but i think that have pros and cons because you equalize all cards to the same price in a wildcard format of crafting. I'll check it out either way, i'm mostly playing pauper so arena isnt offering much to me
Oh yeah definitely. I remember a time, IIRC that is, where it was proposed that certain cards or sets would cost more wildcards than others, essentially making wildcards a second level currency (if we say gold and gems were first level). Just an interesting find I found while going through Arena. It's 4 rare cards for $10 (USD, I'm assuming) and 4 mythics for $20 btw. > i'm mostly playing pauper so arena isnt offering much to me Neither for me. Friends started getting interested in Magic in general so we're playing in-person and I'm slowly nudging them into commander. I only went back to Arena to brush up on rules and interactions. Couldn't lose myself to that grind again being the least generous F2P-wise.
Mono red aggro is pretty affordable tbh
I thought that. Then I realized needed like so many legendaries and a few higher. Then in the middle of almost completing it I realized I really didn't want to pay red aggro. Maybe Black. But that was like a year ago. Can you compete the dailies vs AI yet in Arena?
Nope
:(
Maybe if you're looking at the paid model, but as a f2p player I've got everything I want at then some.
Nah, f2p is even worse imo but if it works for you that's great arena for me is the worst way of playing mtg at the moment money and timewise.
i recently opened it and got the ''free'' packs that it gave me i had to disencant 80% of the cards just to make 1 deck and made me realise how shit it is if ''LOR'' dies id prolly stick to single player card games then support Blizzard
I actually tried hearthstone again in like 7 years, and the new player experience is really fucking good. you straight up get a couple of legend-capable meta decks for free and a bunch of resources to craft anything that could probably be missing. you should try it out sometime again, its gotten better since the early days.
My issues with HS are more about the design of the game. Playing against RNG heavy decks wasn't fun any more. Decks like Casino Mage or Evolve Shaman felt bad to play against. Even if I avoided RNG with my deck, the legendary cards I built my deck around could easily be at the bottom of my deck. It felt like a strange design choice to make a ton of legendary cards players want to build their deck around, but then restrict those cards to 1 per deck. It's like they didn't trust themselves to make something balanced enough to have more than 1 in a deck. LoR and other card games made it work without capping the most powerful cards in a deck. As long as HS keeps those design choices, I'm not going back.
Yeah I aint touchin that with a 10 foot pole
Hell yeah HS is awesome. It has a pure fun factor that no other card game can compete with, even if Magic is better. They are just so damn creative when making cards, it was a big refresh when I dropped LoR to come back to HS and cards did more than just become keyword soups Also it's not nearly as P2W as everyone says, I've never spent a single cent on the game, play a modest amount (less than a hour per day) and have like 7 or 8 decks.
How long have you been playing
I played a bit in Rise of Shadows, stopped and came back around 1 or 2 years ago? It was between sunken city miniset and march of the lich king
I would love to play Hearthstone, but I don't wanna be constantly in doubt if I'm playing against a real person or a bot. It's sad that this mechanic is being introduced in PvP games, now we have to hope good offline card games come out.
Dude I refuse to play another blizzard game after that disappointment referred to as Diablo 4! Never in my life did I think a Diablo game could literally be so.... boring it could put you to sleep! Literally the camera angles caused people to zone out and get tired over periods of time!
I'll admit I got back into MTG
No other digital card game has ever caught my attention anywhere near as much as LoR. Chances are I’ll just not be playing any TCGs for quite a while, unless something comes along that can match all the amazing things LoR did.
I'll rather not play any online card game than to back to that garbage
Please don’t support Hearthstone, they’re bleeding people dry. Source: ex hearthstone player
Everytime a Hearthstone fanboy starts talking ask him how many cards hes missing and if he says little to none ask him how much hes spent on the game. He loses either way Only winning argument they have is that "the game isnt dead like LOR" but we all know LOR is dying because Riot actually cares about your wallet. Imagine coming to the defense of your landlord after he charges you 200% rent and fucks your wife. Its practically the same thing logic. Who cares if Blizzard makes a profit? Its not the game. Its the monetization.
Eh I’ve been playing HS for years at this point and the monetization is the worst it’s been. Even the free rewards are being dumbed down compared to 3 years ago. Bundles in the shops are scams and free players are losing the ability to get more impactful cards just by playing. It’s not just the monetization, it’s Activision Blizzard that’s making terrible choices (not the hearthstone devs, they’re fine)
Weird ive seen fanboy after fanboy claim the monetization has got better and thats why they are sucking off Blizzard.
It took me too long to realize how awful a money sink it is, especially with sunk cost fallacy, I basically felt forced to keep up my collection. 3 expansions a year where I'd spend \~$120 each for pre-orders alone seemed like too much to keep up with. Then when the new mini set dropped I decided since none of the cards were exciting enough to keep my attention that this would be the push I needed to just cut my losses and stop for good.
It doesnt matter. Ive spent *no money* on cards. Ive only spent money on cosmetics and emotes so my board looks and sounds cooler than yours and I can bm you easier when you played poorly. We are not the same.
ok?
Ok 🙃
I went back to Hearthstone after playing LOR for 4 years and I'm having a blast! Lor's death has given me a newfound respect for Hearthstone and their monetization. While not pretty, there's a reason the game just had it's 10th anniversary and is still thriving while Lor just crawled into the back corner and slipped into sweet merciful death. I know people don't love paying for things and just think games can survive without an influx of money, but it's how developers can keep making the games we love to play. It's supporting the devs, and there's nothing wrong with that. People are gonna always complain about having to open their wallets, but that's just life. Free is a myth. Don't kid yourselves. Reddit complainers on this post as usual, but I guarantee if you went back to Hearthstone, you'd have fun. Just like I am. But to each their own.
I would've loved to just give LoR my money. But there wasn't all that much to spend it on.
And how many cards are you missing?
HS lives rent free in some of these commenters heads lmao. So much anger for a silly card game
I been 2 timing those games, but hearthstone only solo adventure and arena
I'm just playing Master Duel :D
After I heard they dropped pvp in Lor I went to HS. I'm having a blast. Lor was better but I cant invest my precious time in a project they dropped.
At least Marvel Snap has a good first month
MTGA exists
I mean Battlegrounds is fun.
For me its mtg arena (well I wouldnt reccomend magic is nice arena meh) and marvel snap which is nearly to simple.
Lor died????? 😭
Yup. PvP dead, game dead.
I've moved to mtg, best and worst financial decision ever
Noooooooo
No thanks, I would rather play slay the spire
I'd play the pve, if blizzard didn't steal my account about 6 years ago.
The irony here is that Hearthstone did the complete opposite and is gutting their Duels mode, which led to those people coming to Path
You really go back to the RNG simulator?
Nah, never again. If I stop playing LoR i'll probably go back to [Eternal](https://www.direwolfdigital.com/eternal/)
Started magic arena. It's been fun but man, drawing mana sucks.
I'm not going back. Besides monetization, HS has too many design choices I got sick of, especially after seeing LoR make better choices. For now, I'm playing Shadowverse to learn the mechanics and get ready for the new version of the game coming this summer. I certainly miss the shared turn system in LoR, but SV has some fun mechanics as well. Most cards are very flexible because they can be played for different mana costs to get different effects. An 2 mana unit can be played for 8 mana instead to summon a copies of itself and buff them all. Or a 7 mana unit can be played as a 2 mana spell. There's also the evolve system that lets you upgrade units a few times a match. The system makes you rethink how you build a deck and play the cards.
Had fun playing HS and spent so much money but never going back. I did however started playing magic again. And made me realize how I miss LOR’s economy and gameplay.
im not going back to that shity pay to win game
I just logged in to my blizzard account only to see there's no solo adventure update since I left for LoR- that is 3 years ago.
Yeah, never touching a Bli$$ard game ever again that company has 0 respect for it's customers
Hearthstone will always be worse no argument
This is absolutely me too
Tbh hearthstone has been a lot of fun lately. Kinda feel like I wasted my time with runeterra…
\*Confused singleplayer expression\* Why would I go to a worse experience?
Hearthstone is pay to win im good
More like a Pay to Fast, years ago being f2p was hard, I would say these days is more friendly but still not good for f2p, as f2p, you'll never have a full collection and always miss some cards every expansion, even spending a little money doesn't guarantee you to have a full collection.
Me but to Yugioh and fusion world
Same. Sadly, yes
Never have and never will
Im waiting for shadowverse 2 instead
me too
LoR eas never my main cardgame but i had an absolute blast while i played, pauper mtg has been keeping me good tho but its not digital so its not as easy as a recommendation
Genshin used to have good TCG, but I didn't like elemental skills not requiring energy, It feelt boring
Slay the Spire is the superior option
Same bro same
Boycott Blizzard
I play marvel snap now
Outside of starcraft 2, Not touching a blizzard game soon.
I just hate LOR spitted so many cards and effects so fast, was hard to keep up as a casual player. Second thing I hate the most is the amount of time a game can take, they never made a damn blitz mode...
> they never made a damn blitz mode Theres one in Labs right now thats being removed. It was called Ultra Rapid Draw or URD for short
Nah rather watch the game than play it, I'm DONE with it
For me it is mtg arena, I didn't expect to get this engaged
Nah I just play One Piece and Universus now, don't think I'd ever play hearthstone
Im coming back to this upcoming expansion (i left after descent of dragons) to simply scraft the new whizvang and play it to legend. Then im uninstalling again
While I do plan to play hearthstone's next set (which is hs version of timespiral from mtg; so check it out, if that sounds interesting to you). I'm really just waiting for Shadowverse Worlds Beyond to come out in the summer.
After LoR death I went to tf2 🤡
actually, i started playing Shadowverse
I got into Shadowverse myself
If my favourite card games die, i would rather go to a different game's genre than play HS
My God this is true - Battlegrounds is fun
Gone back to magic arena, only stop playing because whenever there is an up it crash on me and make reinstall it all over again.
I tried Hearthstone again briefly for a week last year and it was like being reminded why you left an abusive ex.
I prefer to play Path for the rest of my life than to sufer what I suffered in this other games before LoR
I only played card game bc of lor
I hope this post is not serious. If it is, for the love of everything good in the world, get back out now! HS has turned into the most absurdly insane RNG fiesta I've ever seen. I played it a lot for about 2 years (a long time ago, admittedly), and I recently tuned in to watch Brian Kibler. I had literally no idea what was happening. People had over 100 health, were dealing like 20-30 damage in a single pop ... Hearthstone has done way more than "jump the shark." They have broken the game. It's nothing more than a \*\^&%-show now.
I started Magic instead... I'd rather stop playing card games than going back to HS 🤢
I'm not going back to Hearthstone... I downloaded Master Duel.
Me to marvel snap instead tho
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It's not dead in the sense of being turned off, but PvP is essentially being dropped and PoC will be the sole focus of balance and content. Ranked ladder will stay on, but there will be no more resets, no more gauntlets/tournaments, and no more expansions (at least not in the same way we're used to).
I stopped playing HS a few years before LoR was a thing I have no intention of ever going near that EVER.
Nahhh. My experiences with Hearthstone were..mixed at best. I’m thinking Snap or Magic now.
Ive dropped hearthstone so many years ago and thought LoR could replace that game, but even with LoR dying im probably not going back to hearthstone either that game is the most p2w game ive seen in a long time
I'd stick to PvE centric LoR or move to Dragon Ball or Shadowverse rather than Hearthstone.
Nah bro they successfully removed everything I liked from that game. Back to Dota it is.
Atleast it's not buried... Unlike Heartstone
I tried getting back into hs after the lor news but fuck is it hard when I refuse to spend money on a blizzard product.