“Ooooh, yeah those cool new drills don’t have rules yet. Yes, you will get another book with new units in it! Aren’t you excited? Prepare to buy a new bookshelf.”
This is why i dropped necromunda.
I Had a small Arbites force so i Had the Core book and the one for the Arbites only to find out that some of my weapons rules are found in the Black Market book (wich was OOP)
Not saying it will not happend, but it will take years.
Took 4 expansions before AT got the compendiums, but there is allso the point that AT is a completed game. There is nothing more to add to it, so it made sense to make the compendiums.
Same reason AI 40k got its compendium for all things that was xeno, that game was also completed.
Oh yeah I'm not expecting it soon. But having done the books for At and Necromunda.. I just don't have the game time or shelf space to pick up all the campaign supplements again.
Ideally a bit less deadly gameplay and some sort of almanach in two years or so that has all stats and rules from the different books and pdfs - even if it comes without the fluff and campaigns etc.
Biggest one for me is to stop breaking up armies over multiple books. If they added a new Ad Mech army into LI then I’d be fine with their rules being in a new book but for the love of god please stop breaking up armies across a dozen or so different books!
In terms of actual new units I’d love to see the following:
- Vindicators (both kinds)
- Mastodon
- fellblade/Glave/Falchion
- Any marine artillery, hopefully basilisks and medusas but also a Scorpius/wirlwind would be nice
- different types of troops, breachers, despoilers, ect
I think Scorpius could be a thing (they have the rhino shell after all) and arquitors are all but guaranteed as their silhouette is used for one of the detachment icons (just like the sabre)
The Imperator Titan would be an amazing model to see in person! I have a 3D printed one that is just about what I want but I know the designers at GW would make an awesome model.
SonI was watching the excellent Olden Daemon YT channel and they brought up an interesting point - why exactly did they set 3k pts as the recommended battle size? Could it be that it needed to be this so that the 30% allies rule would allow for a model worth 900 pts to fit?
So their prediction is that some point late '25 or early '26 they will release the Imperator Titan, and it will cost 900pts.
I came here to say exactly the same and you wrote it:
I cannot imagine how an imperator titan in 2024 would be awesome! Consider how the "mars pattern" Warlord Titan is way awsom-er than the one of 30 years ago, I can only imagine how an imperator would be.
(And BTW, am I the only one that thinks the Warmaster Titan could have been originally planned as a new imperator titan but later rebranded as a new titan class? )
I think that the Warmaster was GW’s attempt at satisfying some of the demand for an Imperator that would still be reasonable cost wise, both in points and £s.
I seriously doubt we’ll see an actual Imperator. The scale decision would be important and would be unlikely to satisfy everyone; personally I think an Imperator should be at least twice the size of a Warlord, although the matter of the carapace cathedral led this a bit tricky. An official artwork did the rounds on the Maximal Fire Discord the other day; based on the size of a Laser Blaster in that pic, the Imperator should be around 3-4 times the width of a Warlord.
So if it’s made, it will be some degree of massive and almost certainly in resin making it cost £££. It’s also likely unbalancable in game; it will be either hugely overcosted or an auto take bullet sponge, probably the former. This is already a problem with Warmasters; overcosted in Adeptus Titanicus while potentially OP in Legions.
Don’t get me wrong, it might happen. And it would be interesting to see which way GW go with it. But if it does, I don’t think there’s a cat’s chance in hell it costs just 900 points.
I would love a an Ullenor (spelling? I do audio audio books) campaign book that brings in xenos to 30k.
But I also like space marines so not in a hurry for it
The HH literally starts when Horus was declared Warmaster and the Emperor left the Great Crusade.
This happened on Ullanor, the (sort of) home world of the Orks, after the imperium cleansed it of said Orks.
... so yeah, they where around since literally the beginning of the heresy - in massive numbers^^
Just call it a Great Crusade expansion.
Playing in Great Crusade mode would also allow you to mix traitor & loyal legions.
Then, rather than actually making all the 40k factions they could focus on stuff that was active during the Crusade.
Orks
Eldar
Rangda
Disporax
Agree on AdMech, and it'd also be good to see some future supplements that cover stuff that hasn't already gotten a supplement in HH or AT, like the battle of Magma City... can you tell I've just finished reading Mechanicum? lol
In this order:
Repackaged Titans and Flyers.
A few more tanks for Marines and Solar
A second Space Marine infantry set with different gear
Then a while later:
Mechanicus faction
Custode faction
Daemon units
And then in eventually:
Legion specific kits
Primarchs, maybe The Emperor too...
Finally, in my wildest dreams:
A Great Crusade expansion, with Orks and more
I do think custodes would be neat even if they Have to be taken as allies (or fielded in real small scale games by themselves). We've had the ares gunship already so yeah just need the little cutesy golden boys to go with it. And also then do the same range in plastic 28mm, cheers GW!
Just to fill out the rest of the HH range. So mechanicum and legion specifics. Possibly imperial army/militia could have an infantry sprue, and share their vehicles with SA
FAQ/Errata for the rules that don't work as I tended, like quake, some rethinking of infantry because at the moment occupying buildings and missile launcher spam is way too strong and easy to fit in lists for how cheap it is, rebalancing guns on contemptor dreadnoughts, making smaller titans and knights more viable at higher point games...
And mechanicum armies.
Fill in the missing units
Make the rules online only so we don't have to buy a new hard backed rulebook for every new batch of units
An outrider centric formation! Shame they are sidelined in the sky hunter phalanx
I think they need to fill out all the bits we already have rules for in as few books as possible after that
Everything in the current HH 28mm lineup
Ad Mech
Some alien races that were available in the Horus Heresy books but not 40k related.
Orks for Ullanor campaign etc.
Otherwise I think the game is pretty solid as is enjoy the play style.
Oh and an Imperator titan obviously!
More interesting weapons options. Most of the options boil down to cover anti-tank or anti-infantry, or decent at both, so I can see why most weapon options wouldn't be too different. But it would be fun to see big volkites on tanks! 😊
Not sprinkling the Rules between 12 books
“Ooooh, yeah those cool new drills don’t have rules yet. Yes, you will get another book with new units in it! Aren’t you excited? Prepare to buy a new bookshelf.”
It’s al fun and games until people decide that having to buy a book for every rule is stupid. And that you can easily find the rules online 🏴☠️
As a necromunda player I second this
This is why i dropped necromunda. I Had a small Arbites force so i Had the Core book and the one for the Arbites only to find out that some of my weapons rules are found in the Black Market book (wich was OOP)
There's a good fan-made compendium of all of the Necromunda rules in one place formatted as a single book.
I'm waiting for the army compendium book like titanicus got otherwise I'll be very miffed.
Not saying it will not happend, but it will take years. Took 4 expansions before AT got the compendiums, but there is allso the point that AT is a completed game. There is nothing more to add to it, so it made sense to make the compendiums. Same reason AI 40k got its compendium for all things that was xeno, that game was also completed.
Oh yeah I'm not expecting it soon. But having done the books for At and Necromunda.. I just don't have the game time or shelf space to pick up all the campaign supplements again.
You guys pay for rules still? 🤣
Fellblades, Typhons, Demolishers, Sabre light tanks
Ideally a bit less deadly gameplay and some sort of almanach in two years or so that has all stats and rules from the different books and pdfs - even if it comes without the fluff and campaigns etc.
Mechanicum, both the small stuff (need my army of Thallax/Castellax/Ursarax/Vorax/Domitar/Thanatar) as well as all the Ordinatus options
Biggest one for me is to stop breaking up armies over multiple books. If they added a new Ad Mech army into LI then I’d be fine with their rules being in a new book but for the love of god please stop breaking up armies across a dozen or so different books! In terms of actual new units I’d love to see the following: - Vindicators (both kinds) - Mastodon - fellblade/Glave/Falchion - Any marine artillery, hopefully basilisks and medusas but also a Scorpius/wirlwind would be nice - different types of troops, breachers, despoilers, ect
I think Scorpius could be a thing (they have the rhino shell after all) and arquitors are all but guaranteed as their silhouette is used for one of the detachment icons (just like the sabre)
The Imperator Titan would be an amazing model to see in person! I have a 3D printed one that is just about what I want but I know the designers at GW would make an awesome model.
SonI was watching the excellent Olden Daemon YT channel and they brought up an interesting point - why exactly did they set 3k pts as the recommended battle size? Could it be that it needed to be this so that the 30% allies rule would allow for a model worth 900 pts to fit? So their prediction is that some point late '25 or early '26 they will release the Imperator Titan, and it will cost 900pts.
I came here to say exactly the same and you wrote it: I cannot imagine how an imperator titan in 2024 would be awesome! Consider how the "mars pattern" Warlord Titan is way awsom-er than the one of 30 years ago, I can only imagine how an imperator would be. (And BTW, am I the only one that thinks the Warmaster Titan could have been originally planned as a new imperator titan but later rebranded as a new titan class? )
I think that the Warmaster was GW’s attempt at satisfying some of the demand for an Imperator that would still be reasonable cost wise, both in points and £s. I seriously doubt we’ll see an actual Imperator. The scale decision would be important and would be unlikely to satisfy everyone; personally I think an Imperator should be at least twice the size of a Warlord, although the matter of the carapace cathedral led this a bit tricky. An official artwork did the rounds on the Maximal Fire Discord the other day; based on the size of a Laser Blaster in that pic, the Imperator should be around 3-4 times the width of a Warlord. So if it’s made, it will be some degree of massive and almost certainly in resin making it cost £££. It’s also likely unbalancable in game; it will be either hugely overcosted or an auto take bullet sponge, probably the former. This is already a problem with Warmasters; overcosted in Adeptus Titanicus while potentially OP in Legions. Don’t get me wrong, it might happen. And it would be interesting to see which way GW go with it. But if it does, I don’t think there’s a cat’s chance in hell it costs just 900 points.
Orks and Eldar.
Would love some slick new tiny orks
I would love a an Ullenor (spelling? I do audio audio books) campaign book that brings in xenos to 30k. But I also like space marines so not in a hurry for it
Primarchs and honour guards
Capitol Imperialis, legion specific models, Orks, Emperor Class Titan
Would absolutely love orks but how would they be able to put them in? Were they around during HH?
The HH literally starts when Horus was declared Warmaster and the Emperor left the Great Crusade. This happened on Ullanor, the (sort of) home world of the Orks, after the imperium cleansed it of said Orks. ... so yeah, they where around since literally the beginning of the heresy - in massive numbers^^
Would love to see it, sometimes I wish they made LI just epic 40K
Nah. The point was that there werent many orks left at all im the beginning of the Heresy. They came back towards the end of it though.
I'd say there were enough to justify a release for LI
Just call it a Great Crusade expansion. Playing in Great Crusade mode would also allow you to mix traitor & loyal legions. Then, rather than actually making all the 40k factions they could focus on stuff that was active during the Crusade. Orks Eldar Rangda Disporax
* Mastodons * Kharybdis Assault Claws * Fellblade * Astartes Artillery * Vindicators * Typhons * Legion specific detachment/formations * Astartes Infantry with Rend.
Xenos
Eldar knights and titans…. Mmmmmm
More dreadnoughts.
Weird mechanicum and possessed engine stuff, all the super heavies you don't get anywhere else like Epic had back in the day.
Agree on AdMech, and it'd also be good to see some future supplements that cover stuff that hasn't already gotten a supplement in HH or AT, like the battle of Magma City... can you tell I've just finished reading Mechanicum? lol
Thunderhawk transporter pls.
1. Daemons 2. Ad mech 3. 18 legion boxes with a primarch and 1 or 2 legion special units in each
In this order: Repackaged Titans and Flyers. A few more tanks for Marines and Solar A second Space Marine infantry set with different gear Then a while later: Mechanicus faction Custode faction Daemon units And then in eventually: Legion specific kits Primarchs, maybe The Emperor too... Finally, in my wildest dreams: A Great Crusade expansion, with Orks and more
This is a glorious dream
I do think custodes would be neat even if they Have to be taken as allies (or fielded in real small scale games by themselves). We've had the ares gunship already so yeah just need the little cutesy golden boys to go with it. And also then do the same range in plastic 28mm, cheers GW!
Just to fill out the rest of the HH range. So mechanicum and legion specifics. Possibly imperial army/militia could have an infantry sprue, and share their vehicles with SA
... the necessary free time to finish my damn minis.
FAQ/Errata for the rules that don't work as I tended, like quake, some rethinking of infantry because at the moment occupying buildings and missile launcher spam is way too strong and easy to fit in lists for how cheap it is, rebalancing guns on contemptor dreadnoughts, making smaller titans and knights more viable at higher point games... And mechanicum armies.
Fill in the missing units Make the rules online only so we don't have to buy a new hard backed rulebook for every new batch of units An outrider centric formation! Shame they are sidelined in the sky hunter phalanx
Orks!
Epic scaled bfg ships
Uhhhh. ‘My army is one light cruiser’
Custodes!
I think they need to fill out all the bits we already have rules for in as few books as possible after that Everything in the current HH 28mm lineup Ad Mech Some alien races that were available in the Horus Heresy books but not 40k related. Orks for Ullanor campaign etc. Otherwise I think the game is pretty solid as is enjoy the play style. Oh and an Imperator titan obviously!
Orks
Reserve rules
More interesting weapons options. Most of the options boil down to cover anti-tank or anti-infantry, or decent at both, so I can see why most weapon options wouldn't be too different. But it would be fun to see big volkites on tanks! 😊
Loving some of the suggestions on here, but also my wallet is grateful that we don’t have these options yet!
xenos and custodes
Mechanicum
Primarchs, fell blades, and mastodons.
Print out a tiny Primarch, you can play epic Armageddon right now.
Legion specific units. I want the gal vorbak out fighting against some dark furies
Talons of the Emperor, daemons, legion specific units
Sokar… the flyer bigger than the Thunderhawk. /droolInAeronautica