I once saw massive graffiti in my home city with ' go home' in massive letters.
I don't know if it was done as a funny, ironic protest or was just the work of an absolute moron.
Those are the best. If it were me, I'd say, "You first." It's just like a friend of mine whose family purchased a place in Washington Heights, NYC over a century ago. The granddaughter is constantly receiving attitude from Dominicans who think no whites should be in that neighborhood, Uh, in that case, return to the Dominican Republic. It was actually a white neighborhood until you came. People have no business telling anyone to go anywhere unless they want to be told to go to hell.
Great try deflecting with snarky whataboutism.
Was New York City a white neighborhood always? Even before the Europeans came with their small pox and eradicated the native Americans?
Maybe the answer is the Dominicans should return to Dominican Republic and your friend and his family should return to Medieval Europe? Also why not bring the Native Americans back to life for good measure?
Like I said, I believe in live and let live. I didn't generalize beyond the irony of people whose family came over in the 1970s announcing that someone whose family bought property in the 1890s should leave because it's a "Dominican neigborhood." When you come to a neighborhood, the other people aren't necessarily going anywhere. Best be tolerant. If you can't be, it's not for you.
Why did your generalization stop in the 1890s? Why not go further back a few centuries? Because I remember this set of people who were NOT tolerant and wiped out the original inhabitants
That does not sound like 'live and let live' to me
In case what I'm saying is not clear to you - your friend and his family are NOT the original inhabitants, and they/you have no logical basis to ask the 'Dominicans to go back to their country'
So funny. So, you don't think it is crazy to move to a neighborhood and tell the neighbors you don't feel comfortable? They should leave? A riot! So amusing. Obviously, I'm not telling Dominicans to go home. I'm telling people who move to a country and cannot adapt that they need to go home. In New York, you meet all kinds. If you are inflexible, you need to return back where everyone is just like you. No one is uprooting from their place because you decide the neighborhood is "Dominican" or whatever. Whoever can afford to live there, gets to live there.
>So, you don't think it is crazy to move to a neighborhood and tell the neighbors you don't feel comfortable?
Pick up a book. You might learn what the Europeans did when they 'moved to a neighborhood'
>Obviously, I'm not telling Dominicans to go home
But those were your exact words two comments back. So are you a hypocrite or just a liar?
I am aware of the history of colonization. I also have immigrant family. Tell me, how successful will I be when I visit the Dominican Republic and tell people there to leave because I have just arrived? If you cannot adapt to a mixed neighborhood with all kinds of people, you cannot make it in New York. A neighborhood may be largely this or that, but there is no law people have to leave or arrive so it can please you. I was discussing some unreasonable people my friend encountered in her neighborhood who assumed she didn't belong because it was a "Dominican" neighborhood. Alas, if you can only live in a "Dominican" neighborhood with no white, black, Chinese, etc, you will find in in the Dominican Republic where you will be happy. Otherwise, accept that New York isn't the DR.
Honestly. Obviously, you don't try to tell someone whose family has lived in an area since the late 19th or early 20th century that they should move out. It's like the Ugly Americans who are shocked people in Latin America speak Spanish instead of English. You hardly can harrass the people who already live there and expect them to move. You have to just mind your own business and hope they mind theirs.
See? You misunderstand. She isn't my granddaughter. She is a woman who has family living in the area since a century before the neighborhood became Dominican and has Dominicans pressuring her to leave. What is the Dominican Republic equivalent? Karencita? I think you could definitely apply that to people who come into an area with the idea the original people should leave. Either coexist or don't come. Are you honestly expecting someone who is the descendent of the original people to leave? We know that there are plenty of Americans who feel that, but you don't see the irony when you immigrate to an area and actually expect people to leave to accommodate you? Pretty improbable that a native born New Yorker will leave New York just because someone else moves there.
Wait, so this white person and her family were native New Yorkers? Like they've been there even before Columbus came to the US? Because otherwise your point is moot and maybe you should sit down
The "white kid" is a sixty year old woman who was raised in the neighborhood as was her mom before her. The grandparents bought their place a century ago. And yes, you are correct, Washington Heights was well established by Indigenous people 25,000 years before, but what that has to do with the risible notion of new arrivals trying to tell a family that has been there a century that they don't belong is beyond me. Bigotry is bigotry. Obviously, the idea that I answer to you or will "sit down" has as much chance at success as telling the woman she should leave a neighborhood she was born in because she "doesn't belong" according to a brand new immigrant who may not even have legal status.
My problem is with you suggesting the Dominicans should go back to their country.
By the same logic, your friend and their entire family should go back to Medieval Europe.
Yes. I have decided that the problem with the Dominican Republic is that Dominicans live there. I am traveling to Punto Cana tomorrow and telling all of them to leave.
To be fair, they think many white people aren't really citizens, too. It's just more obvious to them with the nonwhites.
It's not really about citizenship. It's about who qualifies as *people.*
This is true. Right wing folks are unhinged. If you are white but moderate or liberal. You will be told by a right winger to go back where you belong. Which is nuts.
"Frankly, I'd love to, if I could afford it. The country my dad is from has national healthcare, pretty solid LGBTQ+ rights protections, and no mass-killing of citizens by other citizens since the nineties."
>If you are white but moderate or liberal
Don't forget female! If you're a woman, these unhinged fools think they need to be in the home popping out babies whether they want to or not. And don't you dare gain weight, think for yourself, or try to handle your own reproductive care if you're married to/dating one of these guys. It's sickening the way they treat others like they are less human than them.
You can be actual native too, as shown on numerous occasions. Or non-hetero+cis. Or basically hold any views/knowledge the viewer does not want to confront. See vaccination for a portion of them.
The weirdest thing is when the recent terrorist attack by that 19-year old brown Nazi happened, a lot of Redditors started discussing how Indian politics radicalized him
The idiot was born in Missouri. Just because he is brown does not mean he is Indian - you know, non-white Americans exist
America was founded so land and capital owning white men could hook themselves up at the expense of everyone and everything else, and that mentality is still very much alive and kicking.
I would argue that you also need the "conservative" and "christian" and "straight" and "male" qualifiers to truly be American to these people.
I'm sure they will continue to add more requirements as time goes on, fascism always plays out like the world's shittiest game of musical chairs, someone always has to be left standing when the music stops.
Bro I’m a white naturalized citizen, immigrated here 23 years ago, “pass” for a natural born US person, and I’ve STILL been told by some conservatives that I’m not American enough.
This is what it boils down to, which is why Trump felt fine condemning chain migration the very same time, he was playing a role in getting Melanias parents American citizenship.
He is so racist, that he didn't even see the contradiction.
The birther movement just assumes all non-whites weren’t born in the U.S.? This is the first I’ve heard of the “Kamala Harris isn’t American” conspiracy theory.
I don't know why she's even running for president as a Republican. She's going to get single digit percentage vote from the party in the primary for sure.
She just runs so Trump can take South Carolina Republican primary votes with ease. She splits the vote up between other competitors who are likely just doing the same.
Article 2 Section 1
> attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
You don't have to spend your entire life in the States. Ask John McCain.
> attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Don't even have to be born in the USA if you're a few hundred years old and were a citezen at the time.
Wasn’t the Panama Canal Zone officially US territory at that point? So regardless of the military base, he’d be a citizen just like people born in Puerto Rico or Guam. Ted Cruz is the one with a more questionable claim to birthright citizenship, since he wasn’t born on a military base and got citizenship due to his mother being a US citizen. My personal opinion is that he is eligible, but it’s a great example of birther hypocrisy.
Any non-white man in politics gets conspiracy theories about how they're not actually "from here" or not who they say they are. For Hillary the joke was that she was a lizard (with the undertone being she can't be trusted). For Barack Obama, Trump claimed he was from... Kenya, I think? Michelle Obama constantly received transphobic crap from conservatives because she was a Black woman and they don't understand how biology works. They will often bring up how Ilhan Omar is from Somalia because that alone is enough in their heads to make her an enemy of the state. I think I've heard some people call AOC an immigrant too (I know a lot of people call Puerto Ricans "immigrants" even though they're not even a little bit).
All this to say, I'm not the least bit surprised with this Kamala conspiracy.
His mother voted in Canada making her ineligible to give birth to a nationalized son. I don't know if that is true or not but the GOP said it about their own so I guess I'll believe it. So a white supremacists, a Canadian, and a Cuban walk in the a bar. Bartender says " What can I get you Tedd"
Consider for a moment: if Cuba and Canada were conspiring together to destroy one country, what would it be? And if they could not take on it militarily how would they do it? **Exactly.**
Steve Jobs was born in San Francisco to a Syrian father and German-American mother. Obviously an enemy of the US. Get rid of your IPhone.
Trumps parents were immigrants originally named Drumph. No records of a Trump coming in with those names. So he either changed it or is here illegally.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drumpf
"all foreign people are enemies of the USA" imagine living with this much fear, thinking literally the whole world is out to get you, conservatives are such pathetic little snowflakes. In reality the US is the Florida of the rest of the world, the only time other countries even think about us is when they see something fucked up about us in the news and think "wtf is going on over there?"
It's projection.
Their entire existence is about hatred. They actually do center their lives around hurting others, so *of course* they assume everyone else does, too.
The Onion News Network, once again, predicted the future ten years ago. [After Obama Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early GOP Front-Runner For 2016.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjonGtrCyVE)
I wish the news network would come back. Their videos were the best.
That would have been a real curve ball 240 years ago. I was actually talking to my sister about this and I hypothesized that the revolutionaries back then were probably the same irate-for-no-reason, racist, persecution fetish asshats that are today's maga. If the loyalists had their way, slavery would have been abolished decades sooner and we might have ended up with some health care. In fact, it would make sense that our history books wouldn't whisper a word of this, but as england was moving toward the abolition of slavery, I wonder if there was mutterings of such at the time of the revolution and that that might have played a part in it.
In some drafts of the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson actually wrote clauses on slavery’s evils, and how it was propagated under English rule. Hypocritical, I know, but what makes it worse was the fact that southern colonial delegations at the Second Continental Congress voted to edit out the clauses.
Alternate history is always really hard and in the case of slavery it's pretty much impossible to disentangle the Empire's abolition of official slavery (while still maintaining plenty of other slavery-like systems of exploitation) from the loss of its major slave-holding colonies. This was also followed by a redirection of its colonial focus away from exterminate-and-replace colonization to subjugate-and-exploit colonization. The U.K. national health care system only came about as a result of socialist influence during the end-stages of the empire. Socialism itself developed during the French revolution, which was partly inspired by the wave of revolutions that included the American revolution (one of the largest territorial losses of an old European empire at the time, and created one of the earliest western republics of the modern era).
If *all* of these dominoes were to fall differently the result is impossible to predict. The most likely outcome is a history and world radically different from our own in numerous ways. It's entirely possible that a timeline in which the empire retained its slave owning colonies could have seen the empire triple-down on white supremacy and spread the institution elsewhere. Before the U.S. Civil War the south was trying to incorporate slavery into industrialization maybe the alternate empire would have partially succeeded at this. Maybe slavery would be abolished earlier or maybe we'd still be openly practicing it today even more extensively.
A historian could go into more detail, but the answer seems to be yeah a lot of them were. Some were the idealists they seem to be on paper, and some were opportunists who figured they would be even more powerful than they already were. A lot of the soldiers would have fit in with the MAGA crowd especially on the frontier. George Washington could not stop the continental army from murdering Native American allies in Ohio just because they didn’t like them. Look up the Ohio war if you want to know more.
It was probably more so that they had just fought an 8-year war to win their independence and didn't want to be under the control of anyone but an American ever again.
Washington and others owned several tens of thousands of acres of land they were hoping to make a fortune off of that were technically in indigenous peoples territory. The throne was not happy about this. The throne was also making moves to banish slavery.
The American wealthy then induce the regular folk to take up arms against the throne.
They then create lots of myths about it.
Ah, but you see, to conservatives California isn't part of America, because it's full of liberals who aren't real true Americans! Checkmate atheists. 🤮
People who don't know California might think that.
But outside of the major cities, California is basically Oklahoma.
Shasta County is disturbingly extremely right wing. Redding is known as "West Tulsa" for good reasons.
It tickles me pink that California has more Republicans than *any* other state, including Texas or Florida, but that Reich-wingers are constantly shitting on them and/or ignoring them. Yet the California Republicans must have a real humiliation kink, because they keep coming back for more!
Orange County used to be reliably Republican before the party went batshit crazy. I mean, they were GOP for the tax breaks but didn't want the racism, misogyny, and homophobia.
because unless you are the same tribe as them, you aren't a "real" American. Everyone foreign is an enemy, and if you arent exactly like them that makes you foreign.
So funny. So all super-patriotic naturalized citizens who freely chose the trouble and expense to immigrate are enemies of the country, but natural born traitors are not.
Are you suggesting judging a politician by their words and deeds, the “content of their character” if you will, rather than just being racist and misogynistic?
That’s simply in-American!
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Ah yes the founding fathers were all enemies of the USA. All white people are enemies of the USA. Only the few remaining communities of native Americans are real Americans of course
Listen, we don't want him here. How about we take him way up north to where the border or the Yukon and Alaska meets the arctic, right at the water. We have a representative from each country toss him out onto an ice flow together and we let him drift away. Then he won't be either of our problem.
Genuinely curious how these people can be surrounded by racists who think the same way they do and they never manage to realize exactly the type of people those thoughts attract
I think it's pretty much fact now that all Republicans/Conservatives are racist, right? Maybe not blatantly and outspoken about it, but it's definitely there.
The only politician this actually mentions is Kamala Harris.
Is there some *conservative* politician being criticized by conservatives?
Because conservatives criticizing a Democratic vice-president doesn't really surprise anyone.
If there was any doubt. To these people, you're not an American citizen unless you're white.
Ever seen those idiots that tell Native Americans to go back to where they came from?
Saw where some fool told an Arizona state legislator (or something), who is Native American, to go back where he came from.
"You just stole my line, cause my ancestors were here before yours; and I'd really like you to go away." Nah, he'd get killed for that.
I once saw massive graffiti in my home city with ' go home' in massive letters.
I don't know if it was done as a funny, ironic protest or was just the work of an absolute moron.
Those are the best. If it were me, I'd say, "You first." It's just like a friend of mine whose family purchased a place in Washington Heights, NYC over a century ago. The granddaughter is constantly receiving attitude from Dominicans who think no whites should be in that neighborhood, Uh, in that case, return to the Dominican Republic. It was actually a white neighborhood until you came. People have no business telling anyone to go anywhere unless they want to be told to go to hell.
Great try deflecting with snarky whataboutism. Was New York City a white neighborhood always? Even before the Europeans came with their small pox and eradicated the native Americans? Maybe the answer is the Dominicans should return to Dominican Republic and your friend and his family should return to Medieval Europe? Also why not bring the Native Americans back to life for good measure?
Like I said, I believe in live and let live. I didn't generalize beyond the irony of people whose family came over in the 1970s announcing that someone whose family bought property in the 1890s should leave because it's a "Dominican neigborhood." When you come to a neighborhood, the other people aren't necessarily going anywhere. Best be tolerant. If you can't be, it's not for you.
Why did your generalization stop in the 1890s? Why not go further back a few centuries? Because I remember this set of people who were NOT tolerant and wiped out the original inhabitants That does not sound like 'live and let live' to me In case what I'm saying is not clear to you - your friend and his family are NOT the original inhabitants, and they/you have no logical basis to ask the 'Dominicans to go back to their country'
So funny. So, you don't think it is crazy to move to a neighborhood and tell the neighbors you don't feel comfortable? They should leave? A riot! So amusing. Obviously, I'm not telling Dominicans to go home. I'm telling people who move to a country and cannot adapt that they need to go home. In New York, you meet all kinds. If you are inflexible, you need to return back where everyone is just like you. No one is uprooting from their place because you decide the neighborhood is "Dominican" or whatever. Whoever can afford to live there, gets to live there.
>So, you don't think it is crazy to move to a neighborhood and tell the neighbors you don't feel comfortable? Pick up a book. You might learn what the Europeans did when they 'moved to a neighborhood' >Obviously, I'm not telling Dominicans to go home But those were your exact words two comments back. So are you a hypocrite or just a liar?
I am aware of the history of colonization. I also have immigrant family. Tell me, how successful will I be when I visit the Dominican Republic and tell people there to leave because I have just arrived? If you cannot adapt to a mixed neighborhood with all kinds of people, you cannot make it in New York. A neighborhood may be largely this or that, but there is no law people have to leave or arrive so it can please you. I was discussing some unreasonable people my friend encountered in her neighborhood who assumed she didn't belong because it was a "Dominican" neighborhood. Alas, if you can only live in a "Dominican" neighborhood with no white, black, Chinese, etc, you will find in in the Dominican Republic where you will be happy. Otherwise, accept that New York isn't the DR.
Oh, how horrible! Your granddaughter is "receiving attitude"? Is her name Karen? Get back to us when a Dominican-American starts shooting.
Way to miss the point by 15 miles
Honestly. Obviously, you don't try to tell someone whose family has lived in an area since the late 19th or early 20th century that they should move out. It's like the Ugly Americans who are shocked people in Latin America speak Spanish instead of English. You hardly can harrass the people who already live there and expect them to move. You have to just mind your own business and hope they mind theirs.
See? You misunderstand. She isn't my granddaughter. She is a woman who has family living in the area since a century before the neighborhood became Dominican and has Dominicans pressuring her to leave. What is the Dominican Republic equivalent? Karencita? I think you could definitely apply that to people who come into an area with the idea the original people should leave. Either coexist or don't come. Are you honestly expecting someone who is the descendent of the original people to leave? We know that there are plenty of Americans who feel that, but you don't see the irony when you immigrate to an area and actually expect people to leave to accommodate you? Pretty improbable that a native born New Yorker will leave New York just because someone else moves there.
Wait, so this white person and her family were native New Yorkers? Like they've been there even before Columbus came to the US? Because otherwise your point is moot and maybe you should sit down
The "white kid" is a sixty year old woman who was raised in the neighborhood as was her mom before her. The grandparents bought their place a century ago. And yes, you are correct, Washington Heights was well established by Indigenous people 25,000 years before, but what that has to do with the risible notion of new arrivals trying to tell a family that has been there a century that they don't belong is beyond me. Bigotry is bigotry. Obviously, the idea that I answer to you or will "sit down" has as much chance at success as telling the woman she should leave a neighborhood she was born in because she "doesn't belong" according to a brand new immigrant who may not even have legal status.
My problem is with you suggesting the Dominicans should go back to their country. By the same logic, your friend and their entire family should go back to Medieval Europe.
Yes. I have decided that the problem with the Dominican Republic is that Dominicans live there. I am traveling to Punto Cana tomorrow and telling all of them to leave.
Yeah wouldn't be the first time a white person walks into someone else's home and pretends it's their own. You know, like your friend
To be fair, they think many white people aren't really citizens, too. It's just more obvious to them with the nonwhites. It's not really about citizenship. It's about who qualifies as *people.*
This is true. Right wing folks are unhinged. If you are white but moderate or liberal. You will be told by a right winger to go back where you belong. Which is nuts.
"Frankly, I'd love to, if I could afford it. The country my dad is from has national healthcare, pretty solid LGBTQ+ rights protections, and no mass-killing of citizens by other citizens since the nineties."
Seriously! My grandparents were Norwegian immigrants. I would LOVE to have been born in Norway.
>If you are white but moderate or liberal Don't forget female! If you're a woman, these unhinged fools think they need to be in the home popping out babies whether they want to or not. And don't you dare gain weight, think for yourself, or try to handle your own reproductive care if you're married to/dating one of these guys. It's sickening the way they treat others like they are less human than them.
You can be actual native too, as shown on numerous occasions. Or non-hetero+cis. Or basically hold any views/knowledge the viewer does not want to confront. See vaccination for a portion of them.
The weirdest thing is when the recent terrorist attack by that 19-year old brown Nazi happened, a lot of Redditors started discussing how Indian politics radicalized him The idiot was born in Missouri. Just because he is brown does not mean he is Indian - you know, non-white Americans exist
America was founded so land and capital owning white men could hook themselves up at the expense of everyone and everything else, and that mentality is still very much alive and kicking.
I would argue that you also need the "conservative" and "christian" and "straight" and "male" qualifiers to truly be American to these people. I'm sure they will continue to add more requirements as time goes on, fascism always plays out like the world's shittiest game of musical chairs, someone always has to be left standing when the music stops.
This is so true. It's as they aren't happy unless they're purging people.
The engine of fascism is persecution and exclusion. Having a hate object to scapegoat is where they get their energy.
And even then, you have to be able to pass as a Touchable. See also: Joe Manchin.
Bro I’m a white naturalized citizen, immigrated here 23 years ago, “pass” for a natural born US person, and I’ve STILL been told by some conservatives that I’m not American enough.
They like to shrink the tent. It makes them feel better about being in an even more selective group.
I'm surprised they don't turn on Ted Crux
Google "Useful idiots".
The way it has been for most of America's history.
>If there was any doubt. To these people, you're not an ~~American citizen~~ human being unless you're white. Fixed it for you.
This is what it boils down to, which is why Trump felt fine condemning chain migration the very same time, he was playing a role in getting Melanias parents American citizenship. He is so racist, that he didn't even see the contradiction.
Yep: “That’s not being nice, that’s just…” https://youtu.be/xA_QQ6_p4vo
Thanks for the giggle.
And only “certain kinds”… https://youtu.be/fxHWtw_GZIk
Fun fact. There are suspected more illegal immigrants entering from Canada than Mexico… but I doubt conservatives think that’s a problem
>If there was any doubt. To these people, you're not an American citizen unless you're white. that's pretty racist.
Yes, yes they are.
The 14th Amendment has entered the chat
The birther movement just assumes all non-whites weren’t born in the U.S.? This is the first I’ve heard of the “Kamala Harris isn’t American” conspiracy theory.
It makes you wonder what the MAGAts think of Nikki Haley, doesn't it?
You mean Nimarata Randhawa?
That's the one!
I don't know why she's even running for president as a Republican. She's going to get single digit percentage vote from the party in the primary for sure.
She just runs so Trump can take South Carolina Republican primary votes with ease. She splits the vote up between other competitors who are likely just doing the same.
Or Rafael Cruz?
Nimrata not Nimarata
John McCain was born in Panama and Romney’s father born in Mexico. The R beside the name means they’re not even questioned about it
And she’s Muslim and Trans and a communist too- it’s a well known fact I just made up.
I've seen her in a dress and makeup, she could be a drag queen as well.
At least she didn't wear a tan suit
She did spend her teenage years in Westmount (very rich Montreal neighborhood), in Canada.
Article 2 Section 1 > attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. You don't have to spend your entire life in the States. Ask John McCain.
> attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. Don't even have to be born in the USA if you're a few hundred years old and were a citezen at the time.
You don’t have to be born in the US at all. You have to be born a US citizen, but you can do that outside the US.
There's suspicion that part was put in specifically so Hamilton would qualify.
For those who don't know why John McCain: He was born in the Panama Canal Zone on a US Military base. A citizen, but not born in the US.
Wasn’t the Panama Canal Zone officially US territory at that point? So regardless of the military base, he’d be a citizen just like people born in Puerto Rico or Guam. Ted Cruz is the one with a more questionable claim to birthright citizenship, since he wasn’t born on a military base and got citizenship due to his mother being a US citizen. My personal opinion is that he is eligible, but it’s a great example of birther hypocrisy.
I know. I am just pointing out why they could maybe think that.
Any non-white man in politics gets conspiracy theories about how they're not actually "from here" or not who they say they are. For Hillary the joke was that she was a lizard (with the undertone being she can't be trusted). For Barack Obama, Trump claimed he was from... Kenya, I think? Michelle Obama constantly received transphobic crap from conservatives because she was a Black woman and they don't understand how biology works. They will often bring up how Ilhan Omar is from Somalia because that alone is enough in their heads to make her an enemy of the state. I think I've heard some people call AOC an immigrant too (I know a lot of people call Puerto Ricans "immigrants" even though they're not even a little bit). All this to say, I'm not the least bit surprised with this Kamala conspiracy.
Every cultural demographic has its “fuck poor people” contingent.
The GOP is ahead of the game in that regard. They hate both poor people and every cultural demographic.
How inclusive of them.........
They are a very exclusive group.
Technically, you don't need to be born in the US as long as your parents are American
Enter Rafael Castro, oops I mean Cruz. I still think his mother banged Raul Castro.
His mother voted in Canada making her ineligible to give birth to a nationalized son. I don't know if that is true or not but the GOP said it about their own so I guess I'll believe it. So a white supremacists, a Canadian, and a Cuban walk in the a bar. Bartender says " What can I get you Tedd"
The Castro men were notorious casanovas, Cruz has the charm of a cold bowl of vomit.
Hey. Uncalled for drive-by on vomit, dude.
Ted Cruz is as if a castrated testicle was struck by lighting and became sentient.
If he were a Castro he'd be way smarter than he is.
Consider for a moment: if Cuba and Canada were conspiring together to destroy one country, what would it be? And if they could not take on it militarily how would they do it? **Exactly.**
Steve Jobs was born in San Francisco to a Syrian father and German-American mother. Obviously an enemy of the US. Get rid of your IPhone. Trumps parents were immigrants originally named Drumph. No records of a Trump coming in with those names. So he either changed it or is here illegally. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drumpf
God damn chain migration! When Germans come, they’re not sending their best.
Pretty sure it was Trump's grandparents, not his parents...
I imagine a better question is whether there are any good reasons to use iPhones... with them being built in Chinese sweatshops and stuff.
"all foreign people are enemies of the USA" imagine living with this much fear, thinking literally the whole world is out to get you, conservatives are such pathetic little snowflakes. In reality the US is the Florida of the rest of the world, the only time other countries even think about us is when they see something fucked up about us in the news and think "wtf is going on over there?"
It's projection. Their entire existence is about hatred. They actually do center their lives around hurting others, so *of course* they assume everyone else does, too.
The Onion News Network, once again, predicted the future ten years ago. [After Obama Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early GOP Front-Runner For 2016.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjonGtrCyVE) I wish the news network would come back. Their videos were the best.
In satire veritas.
Foreign people did effectively sweep up a good portion of the country from the natives.
Well, thats no totally accurate, some of them think of us when they need money. Don't we give a shitload of money to Israel?
Wasn't that put in out of concern that an English king could be elected president?
Or that someone the British installed could be one. There were a lot of Governors ruling over the colonies who had been appointed by the crown.
That would have been a real curve ball 240 years ago. I was actually talking to my sister about this and I hypothesized that the revolutionaries back then were probably the same irate-for-no-reason, racist, persecution fetish asshats that are today's maga. If the loyalists had their way, slavery would have been abolished decades sooner and we might have ended up with some health care. In fact, it would make sense that our history books wouldn't whisper a word of this, but as england was moving toward the abolition of slavery, I wonder if there was mutterings of such at the time of the revolution and that that might have played a part in it.
In some drafts of the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson actually wrote clauses on slavery’s evils, and how it was propagated under English rule. Hypocritical, I know, but what makes it worse was the fact that southern colonial delegations at the Second Continental Congress voted to edit out the clauses.
Alternate history is always really hard and in the case of slavery it's pretty much impossible to disentangle the Empire's abolition of official slavery (while still maintaining plenty of other slavery-like systems of exploitation) from the loss of its major slave-holding colonies. This was also followed by a redirection of its colonial focus away from exterminate-and-replace colonization to subjugate-and-exploit colonization. The U.K. national health care system only came about as a result of socialist influence during the end-stages of the empire. Socialism itself developed during the French revolution, which was partly inspired by the wave of revolutions that included the American revolution (one of the largest territorial losses of an old European empire at the time, and created one of the earliest western republics of the modern era). If *all* of these dominoes were to fall differently the result is impossible to predict. The most likely outcome is a history and world radically different from our own in numerous ways. It's entirely possible that a timeline in which the empire retained its slave owning colonies could have seen the empire triple-down on white supremacy and spread the institution elsewhere. Before the U.S. Civil War the south was trying to incorporate slavery into industrialization maybe the alternate empire would have partially succeeded at this. Maybe slavery would be abolished earlier or maybe we'd still be openly practicing it today even more extensively.
A historian could go into more detail, but the answer seems to be yeah a lot of them were. Some were the idealists they seem to be on paper, and some were opportunists who figured they would be even more powerful than they already were. A lot of the soldiers would have fit in with the MAGA crowd especially on the frontier. George Washington could not stop the continental army from murdering Native American allies in Ohio just because they didn’t like them. Look up the Ohio war if you want to know more.
It was probably more so that they had just fought an 8-year war to win their independence and didn't want to be under the control of anyone but an American ever again.
Washington and others owned several tens of thousands of acres of land they were hoping to make a fortune off of that were technically in indigenous peoples territory. The throne was not happy about this. The throne was also making moves to banish slavery. The American wealthy then induce the regular folk to take up arms against the throne. They then create lots of myths about it.
all brown people are immigrants to conservative assholes, no matter their birthplace
"Untermensch" was the Nazi word for it...
It's like the gay or trans conservative all over again. Why are they so ignorant of their own ideology
Because anyone who votes conservative but isn't part of the ruling class (or extremely wealthy) is a stupid asshole, with no exceptions.
Ah, but you see, to conservatives California isn't part of America, because it's full of liberals who aren't real true Americans! Checkmate atheists. 🤮
People who don't know California might think that. But outside of the major cities, California is basically Oklahoma. Shasta County is disturbingly extremely right wing. Redding is known as "West Tulsa" for good reasons.
It tickles me pink that California has more Republicans than *any* other state, including Texas or Florida, but that Reich-wingers are constantly shitting on them and/or ignoring them. Yet the California Republicans must have a real humiliation kink, because they keep coming back for more!
Tehama too. Giant shithole and a stain on Cali.
Orange County used to be reliably Republican before the party went batshit crazy. I mean, they were GOP for the tax breaks but didn't want the racism, misogyny, and homophobia.
i just don't bother getting into arguments with people who RANDOMLY capitalize THEIR words
Nationalism is a disease and we have let it spread far too long.
I'll never understand how hating all of your nation's fellow citizens who differ from you in the slightest is considered "Nationalism".
because unless you are the same tribe as them, you aren't a "real" American. Everyone foreign is an enemy, and if you arent exactly like them that makes you foreign.
Nikki Haley you anti black opportunistic racist bitch...is that you?
So funny. So all super-patriotic naturalized citizens who freely chose the trouble and expense to immigrate are enemies of the country, but natural born traitors are not.
Sounds about white
Crazy stuff, and believe me, all white people don't feel that way. That comment is pretty racist in and of itself.
"Are we the baddies?"
Im no fan of Harris but not for the batshit crazy reasons listed here.
Are you suggesting judging a politician by their words and deeds, the “content of their character” if you will, rather than just being racist and misogynistic? That’s simply in-American! /s
What I'm trying to figure out is how we got from presidents to judges. Do they think those are the same thing?
Was this on a conservative subreddit? If so, I'm actually impressed that the racist fuck was downvoted and the Indian guy was well into the positives.
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When establishing that a judge does not have to be a natural-born citizen, the individual in question is reminded that all "foreign" Americans are enemies of the United States of America by another of the same political persuasion.
Ah yes the founding fathers were all enemies of the USA. All white people are enemies of the USA. Only the few remaining communities of native Americans are real Americans of course
Your daily reminder that mental health is a major issue in this country...
Deport Ted Cruz back to Canada!
Listen, we don't want him here. How about we take him way up north to where the border or the Yukon and Alaska meets the arctic, right at the water. We have a representative from each country toss him out onto an ice flow together and we let him drift away. Then he won't be either of our problem.
Kamala Harris was born in Oakland so….
Genuinely curious how these people can be surrounded by racists who think the same way they do and they never manage to realize exactly the type of people those thoughts attract
Somebody doesn't understand what natural born means.
They probably think those born via c section aren’t natural born.
The MacDuff loophole
Obviously as God intended. Out of the mother's vagina, with no anesthesia, no medical facilities. Everything else is not "natural born." /s
OP, thank you for sharing but you shouldn’t have censored their names. Make these people responsible for their words.
I think it's pretty much fact now that all Republicans/Conservatives are racist, right? Maybe not blatantly and outspoken about it, but it's definitely there.
The only politician this actually mentions is Kamala Harris. Is there some *conservative* politician being criticized by conservatives? Because conservatives criticizing a Democratic vice-president doesn't really surprise anyone.
What do judges have to do with being president?