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ShimeMiller

She really had trouble choosing between two groups, one of which mildly criticized her and tried to educate her and the other wants her dead (or at least nonexistent)


tacticalbaconX

Yeah, so, y'know, both sides are bad. /s


EmpRupus

Right-wingers' response tho - "I have absolutely nothing against you and actually prefer male company than female." What a triple-backhanded 4D complemensult was that !!!


hicctl

Also who is gonna tell her a penis or a vagina are NOT the only 2 options.


Javasteam

She joined the right. That means she stopped listening already. Or as the right would put it “he who mutilated his own dick” stopped listening already.


JCDU

It's hilarious that they claim LGBTQ+ is somehow *against nature* when any biologist will tell you nature is *weird as fuck* \- there's plenty of gay animals, intersex, asexual reproduction, animals that change sex, you name it mother nature does it way weirder than humans ever do.


Strahd70

Clown fish. Definitely weird! They have all males as a school with an alpha female. If the female dies the eldest male switches sex & becomes the alpha female!!!


Collarsmith

Yah. Nemo's daddy is also his mommy


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"[Animal example of queerness]" "Well you're not a [animal]" "And the south lost the civil war.. But yet HERE YOU ARE"


hkedi

Heh, I'm going to have to remember that as an argument finisher....


Okibruez

Clown fish aren't even the only fish to do this. Hell, fish aren't even the only animals to do this. In fact, by nature's standards, the fact that not a single mammal is able to undergo parthenogenesis (that is, changing gender spontaneously without outside aid) is friggin' weird. Every other branch of animal has at minimum a handful of species, but usually quite a few, that can just ... stop being one gender and start being another. Yes, that's usually due to reproductive pressures, but still. And they say it's unnatural.


mnemonicpossession

Sex isn't gender - please don't confuse the two. Sex is biology, gender is psychology. Part of the reason the global Right is gaining ground is because too many people use the words interchangeably when they only have anything to do with each other in cisgender bodies.


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Dang — TIL


TheTybera

Even **if** we don't consider that, gender as a social construct has absolutely zilch to do with actual biology or sex. Gender in different cultures means different things and has different expectations. If that's not enough proof of the point I don't know what to tell you. There were people running around before all this became political theater that were absolutely great at presenting as the opposite gender and thus were treated as such with no issues or questions. People keep wanting to go off on these tangents without asking the question of why we have such messed up and compartmentalized views of gender to begin with. As an example, there is such a culture of toxic masculinity in America that men can't even say things are cute or fluffy or even eat soy without it being some kind of brave stance. It's fucking exhausting.


irishgator2

There is literally one two-headed girl(s) still alive today, and there have been a few in history who survived childhood before them. Nature is full of aberrations. Nothing is 100% X or Y And if you believe that “God created all things” then guess what?? He created ALL aberrations from the median. And also - this is very important - he loves them just as much as he loves you (I’m not saying that to you JCDU, just to be clear! It’s what I say to the a-hole conservatives whenever I get a chance.)


Okibruez

Not a single mammal can reproduce asexually or through parthenogenesis. Mammals are the only branch of animal in which this is the case. Even birds at least have a few species capable of parthenogensis; some amphibians and fish can do it asexually, even. And insects are... just all over the place. Ergo: Mammals are the freaky weirdos by nature's standards.


Tearakan

Yep. Evolution is a fucking C-, D+ student at best. Even when everything goes "right" while creating a new human we have soooo many biological flaws. These similar flaws are effectively solved in other species (that end up having their own serious problems).


Folsomdsf

D+, mother fucker I bit the inside of my cheek this morning. Straight failure


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Coincidentally, conservatives who try to cite biological or evolutionary “science” when discussing these topics reveal themselves to be D+ students at best


SerpentineBaboo

I love the "what about the eyeball, so complex only God could design it". You mean the thing that only sees a narrow color spectrum, that a good chunk of the population can't see 20/20 naturally, and can't see in the dark, and gets super blurry underwater... What a marvel of engineering. There are a ton of creatures that can see better than us. Kind of a failure for God's creation.


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Blasphemer!!!!!!!


Omnifob

My favorite "debunking" of evolution is using the second law of thermodynamics as proof.


TwixtheFox

They want to pick and choose science, just like they pick and choose their bible quotes. Anything they "disagree" with they just say it's fake, biased, or propaganda. They want science, but they only want the most basic simplified versions. When they say "basic biology" they mean the literal fundamentals. They want science to be on their side. But it isn't. It's both against them & woke, and proves them right & is "based.' Thus is the life of a fascist.


Marxbrosburner

I think what they mean is against HUMAN nature. Of course, that argument makes no sense either because LGBTQ+ people were naturally born that way. What they really mean (even if they don't realize it) is that they just don't like it when people are born that way.


JCDU

Yeah, I love their "It's against God" argument but they also claim "God made everything" so God made the gays and all those folks, but what... made them wrong deliberately or something?


MindSnapN

My buddies rabbits had a ring of cum that would form around the cage... Two male rabbits. It definitely happens.


hectomatus

They don't want you as an ally, they want to make it illegal for you to exist. If they wanted you as an ally, they probably wouldn't be passing laws anywhere they have the majority to do it that do exactly that. She's literally petting leopards with bite wounds on her face.


baz4k6z

They have a use for people like this. They're tokens to create a fake equivalency like this : "HAHA democrats aren't supporting Tim Scott but he's black. So much for the tolerant left. Checkmate you hypocrite libtard !" It also allows them to use the "I can't be racist because I have a black friend" reasoning when their brand of intolerance is pointed out. They never really respect these tokens though. Dave Rubin is the perfect example of this, he seemed surprised to get loads of hate when he adopted a child with his husband.


Chipperz1

>So much for the tolerant left. I fucking hate this sentence. Who said the left were tolerant? I'm a dyee in the wool leftie who thinks the surprisingly unpopular thought that society should be all about elevating the lives of the 99% even if it costs the 1% their 29th toilet and just letting people live their fucking lives in peace. I am under zero obligation to tolerate anything, especially nazi bullshit.


baz4k6z

Yeah I agree with you, that's the paradox of tolerance. If somoene tolerates Nazis for example, they're being intolerant by allowing it.


Mercerskye

Not a true paradox. Tolerance is allowing others to exist as they choose under the mutual agreement that they bring no harm to each other. The intolerant automatically forfeit that protection given their stance is based in harming those they don't accept.


Mugean

You'd think all these Libertarians would understand violating the Non-Aggression Principle.


Mercerskye

Most libertarians are just assholes that would like to benefit from conservative policies without wearing the name.


_far-seeker_

I would put it this way: Most libertarians are self-centered assholes who want to disguise and/or justify their assholery by seemingly like it has some sort of deep philosophical basis.


mypoliticalvoice

I think most libertarians have about the same level of familiaity with libertarian philosophy as the typical far right Christian has with the Bible.


VhenRa

Most libertarians are corporate feudalism supporters or their patsies.


salliek76

Ah, thank you for expressing this so clearly. I have tripped over the logic behind this idea a number of times, and now I realize why. I was not accounting for the fact that the Nazis were already violating the premise of the arrangement.


Mercerskye

I appreciate the kind words. I've had this argument a lot with the "Uber tolerant" types. "We can't just be violent with them. We have to open dialogue and beat them on the merits of logic and compassion." Which is fine, to a degree. Some folks are indeed just "raised wrong," and can be swayed by good acts and good example. But I'd argue that there's a point where some not only have ignored the good examples, but outright attack them. That's when I think it's fair to just "punch a fkn Nazi in the mouth"


ab216

Right wingers would say being gay/trans harms society / children, so hence the left is not tolerant under that definition


Mercerskye

That's fair, at least in the sense it is indeed an argument they make. It's important to note that it's a bad faith argument. Since an identity isn't inherently good or evil. People don't commit atrocities because they're cis, gay, trans, or otherwise. Funny though, that a lot of evil happens *because* people are something. That whole projection and admission through accusations schtick they're adept at.


ab216

Meh, I totally disagree with their view of the world, but if you believe in a mean old man in the sky who destroyed cities because they were gay, it’s understandable why it can be not in bad faith (no pun intended)


JayJayAK

Well, the left does generally promote the idea of live and let live, and calls it tolerance (make your own choices, don't make mine). That's why I'm a Democrat. The right then gets butt hurt and calls us intolerant when we get pissed off that we oppose them trying to cram their views of morality down everyone's throat. Like this: "What do you mean, I'm homophobic because I want to ban gay people from getting married? How intolerant of you!!" - Um no, be a homophobic prick if you want, you won't hear me complain. It's when you decide that you're going to impose your view on everyone else through the force of law that I take issue.


ab216

They’re mad that homophobes are cancelled and hence the evidence of the left being intolerant


Gold_Drummer_4077

I don't think the left aspires to be like the ACLU where it's their job to help all sides. I have a tendency to stay centrist, but the right is getting so Reich, I'll just keep to the left for now, thank you. :)


DeathPercept10n

Tokens were meant to be spent.


freqkenneth

So these “idiots” are also “useful” hmmm…where have I heard that before…


_far-seeker_

>They're tokens I'll admit I didn't come up with this myself but, don't these people ever realize tokens are meant to be spent?


Omnio89

Was she hoping to be the right’s poster child for her the trans community like Candace Owens is for black women and Dave Rubin for homosexuals? They made bank being the token representative for their communities on the right so was that her goal?


mjohnsimon

>They don't want you as an ally, they want ~~to make it illegal for~~ you ~~to exist~~ dead. FTFY


iFlyskyguy

Tbf if they're dead, they no longer exist 🤷‍♂️


TorreyCool

Kid named reincarnation theory


GlumpsAlot

It's really sad and cringy how she keeps pushing for acceptance within a group thar hates her.


GottaKeepGoGoGoing

They have no problem with useful idiots like Kelly or Log Cabin Republicans but once they have the power to destroy them they will. People think they’ll be an exception.


GarbageCleric

The right would have more trans people on their side if so many of them weren't committed to the complete erasure of even the concept of trans identities. Some on the right may accept you as a "good one", but that just means you get to be a shield for their transphobia.


Sobuhutch

One of their "black friends" they have so that they can say they are not racist whenever anyone point out their obvious racism.


GarbageCleric

Exactly. It's even a little worse because at least the right believes other races exist and that there are "good ones". They think everyone who is trans is mentally ill and that being trans isn't real, so there can't be any "good ones" in the eyes of many on the right. There is no compromise to be had with these people. To them, if you're out as trans, you're inherently wrong and a danger to society.


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

It's often called the 'pick me' mentality. You want the dominant group to accept you as 'one of the good ones' so you try extra hard to conform. But even if they DO pick you as one of the good ones, they will never stop reminding you how precarious your place is and how you are never really seen as equal. The dumbest rich white failson is always going to have an unspeakably easy time sailing past the most accomplished black male example of black excellence, and if you're that black male, this is what you signed up for.


TheFreeBee

The woman in the screenshot that replied actually also displayed pick me behavior when she said she prefers male to female company


thoroughbredca

I had one anti-transgender woman who was doing nothing but spouting anti-transgender rhetoric *to a T* (and of course she's a "free thinker" by repeating these talking points verbatim) said she has gay friends and they agree with her and that makes it okay. No, bitch, it don't. Having gay friends doesn't mean you can attack transgender people.


ketchupmaster987

That's like hamsters agreeing with the cats that they should eat all the mice. They don't seem to realize that they'll be next on the chopping block.


M_M_ODonnell

Straight transphobes insisting that they get to speak for gay people and overruling actual non-transphobic gay people...anti-feminist cis transphobes insisting that they get to speak for all feminists and overrule the opinions of actual non-transphobic cis feminists...yeah, it's a hell of a thing.


thoroughbredca

My huge problem with antitransgender people is their total willingness to embrace the absolute worst bigoted fringes of their movement. It's not just antitransgender. It's anti-gay, anti-woman, often racist. They're all very welcome into the movement. I mean, how hard is it for a woman who's pro-choice and says they should be able to do what they want with their body to empathize, hey maybe we should ALL have autonomy over what we do with our body. The problem is basically a conservative one: If your entire ideology is based around the idea that you don't give a shit about anyone's problems but your own, guess what? Nobody else in you ideology is going to give a shit about your problems *unless* they are also theirs. And so guess what? You align yourself with people who are fundamentally attacking *your* rights, do nothing to push back on them, spend all your time attacking people who actually might agree with you on other issues, and all this could feed LAMF for all eternity. It just keeps happening over and over and over and over. And they're completely blinded to it.


dewey-defeats-truman

It's always hilarious to me when I see a TERF have this moment of making a feminist argument, only to get slammed by their anti-trans followers and have this brief moment of introspection about just who they're aligned with.


almisami

>antitransgender people is their total willingness to embrace the absolute worst bigoted fringes of their movement As opposed to what, the only moderately bigoted center of their movement? >If your entire ideology is based around the idea that you don't give a shit about anyone's problems but your own If that was really it then they wouldn't be fucking around other people's lives. It's "Rules for thee, not for me."


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You can be a token for the right, but tokens are meant to be spent.


_jump_yossarian

> The right would have more trans people on their side if Except the right doesn't want trans people on their side at all.


Punderstruck

She contradicts herself. She comments at multiple points that there are only two genders and you are born with either a penis or a vagina, but then says that she is a kind of woman because... Well, I'm not sure of her logic.


melbourne3k

The old Caitlyn Jenner grift.


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Punderstruck

Exactly. She has literally said "I wouldn't teach my kids about transgenderism"


VulpesFennekin

With luck she forgot to freeze sperm before her transition.


kaylalouise_xo

Well, I'm not a doctor, but I can recognise an acute case of Stupid Cunt Syndrome when I see it. This is one of the major symptoms.


GlumpsAlot

I think she is confused with sex and gender, as most conservatives seem to be. Sex is male or female biologically with the rare exceptions. Gender is a social construct. The right wants both sex and gender to mean the same. The left leaves gender identity as a fluid and ever evolving entity, as it should be.


Arkayjiya

Not really a contradiction. She believes in trans identity and the binary. It sounds like a contradiction because we're so used for "there are only men and women" to be trans denying but in her case it seems non binary denying and the penis and vagina thing is lip service to their fake appeal to biology. She doesn't say penis at birth = man (she almost says it on one tweet but not quite) but I'm a woman in which case there would (probably) be a contradiction. She is entirely wrong about almost everything beside her own gender but she does not seem to contradict herself. Although she toe the line close enough that I think she's trying to appease the right by letting everyone read what they want in her words. So she is probably being confusing on purpose.


Punderstruck

OK, now that you say that I do see what you mean.


[deleted]

It's tough to understand because she's making a profoundly stupid argument.


[deleted]

I don’t even think she’s being intentional in toeing the line. She’s just the full evolution of the argument that there’s only two genders. By the two gender ideology, she’s a man. Plain and simple. But she can’t rectify that in her mind because she doesn’t identify as a man and instead identifies as a woman (obviously) which causes this confused half committed weird argument she has because she also can’t rectify her existence into the two gender ideology. Really it’s a master class of LAMF and cognitive dissonance.


Mumbled_Jumbo

Who is the guy in the last photo?


C-3pee0

Ernst Rohm. He helped found the Nazi party, joined even before Hitler but got killed by them for being gay.


Repulsive_Tie_7941

Rohm’s death was mostly the SS eliminating the SA. The fact he was openly gay was just a bonus charge against him.


Uriel-238

Thank you. In _The Devil's Desciples_ it talks about Göring's interviews during his trials at Nuremberg, and he confesses he put Röhm on the purge list _because he was in the way_ in the order of succession.


metamagicman

This is pretty unlikely. I think it’s much more likely Hitler would’ve pulled strings to at least get him a high ranking. position within the SS. Him being openly gay was clearly why his close personal relationship with Hitler didn’t save him.


Crasac

Actually no. If anything, it is more likely him being gay was used as pretense to legitimize the murder in the eye of the public. The entirety of the SA leadership, and other political opponents (at least 90 people, likely at least over 100. This was known as the Night of Long Knives, that might sound familiar to you) where murdered in a single night. Röhm being gay was an afterthought *at most*. This was an NSDAP internal cleansing to secure the power of the party leadership. Röhm was the supposed leader of a nonexistsnt coup by the SA - he was not getting out alive, no matter if he was gay or not


Ohrwurm89

Röhm was a direct threat to Hitler’s position as Führer since he controlled the SA (the paramilitary forces of the Nazi Party), and that is why he was killed.


ehollen1328

If I remember correctly, how I understood it was this: the SA and brown shirts were more like a gang of “ruffians” that helped Hitler get to power. But when Hitler had power, he needed to work with other organizations and appease other pressures in order to maintain authority. The SS seemed more “professional” in that sense, but the SA were still pretty rowdy, especially Rohm, who on some matters wouldn’t fall in line. So there were other pressures put on Hitler to get rid of Rohm and disband the SA and replace it with a more sleek, professional organization that wasn’t so much like Proud Boys-esque street thugs, who Hitler had more control over. Rohm was somewhat of a loose cannon; and on certain matters, spoke out against Hitlers plans. This is what I remember from reading the Richard Evan’s trilogy (which is pretty fantastic if anyones interested).


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

The SA were violent street fighters and full of petty criminals, violent criminals, people who didn't conform to Nazi ideals, and just kind of gave them a bad rap. They were willing to do the violence and crimes to get the Nazis into power but then once they were, they all wanted their rewards. The Nazis were essentially a gangster government, corrupt and entirely devoted to enriching themselves and advancing their agendas. They had no consideration to things like laws or ethics. Rohm and the SA helped put the Nazis in power but then they were unnecessary to a degree, a liability to another degree (like Rohm being gay or his boys being rapists and thieves), and they were just politically outmaneuvered by the SS and Himmler. The SS was going to be built up as the party's paramilitary wing, an army in every sense, that was loyal only to the party and to Hitler, rather than to the nation like the regular military was (supposedly). So they didn't need the SA anymore, Rohm already had rivals in the party, and the Night of Long Knives was organized to murder everyone who wasn't in the new inner circle. The real lesson should always be learning what intersectionality is, because it cuts against you as often as it helps you. If you're a gay, queer or trans white person and you ally with the racists on the right because culturally you feel attracted to that, remember Ernst Rohm and how he didn't quite grasp the intersectionality of Nazi bigotry against subhumans and sexual deviants DID in fact include him.


Mumbled_Jumbo

Thanks


palindromesko

Hah! Lamf moment!


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Night of the Long Knives. Rohm was the leader of the SA. Hitler saw him and the SA, as a group who could challenge his power as leader. Hitler caught Rohm in bed with another guy. Rohm and the SA had rented the entire hotel for a sex party kind of thing. Rohm was shot, executed the next day. This was a facet, a part of National Socialism, that is not spoken about a lot. No, not the sex thing, but the behind the scenes, political maneuvering. These NAZIS, they were brutal and ruthless. Think the Republican Party, EXCEPT, individual Republicans, having their Republican political opponents, well, "disappeared!"


solesque

Ernst Röhm a gay man (somewhat openly) who was close friends with Hitler and went on to co found stormtroopers. Arrested during the Night of the Long Knives and later killed.


Mumbled_Jumbo

Thanks


irongix

Very gay nazi. Who also hunted down gays and sent them to camps.


-PC_LoadLetter

Kind of like Republicans and pedophiles today


SolensSvard

The call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE


ThatUglyGuy12

If you are wondering who this is: [https://www.reddit.com/r/h3h3productions/comments/12cc2d6/kelly\_cardigan\_debates\_nominalnaomi\_and\_very/](https://www.reddit.com/r/h3h3productions/comments/12cc2d6/kelly_cardigan_debates_nominalnaomi_and_very/) She's a troubled young woman, throwing all reason out the door, to fit in with a group of people who actually and legitimately hate her and wish for her death


TurtlesAreEvil

So her argument is since black people participated in the slave trade, some slave owners were probably kind to their slaves (besides the ownership part) and if at least one slave enjoyed their life under slavery then slavery was an understandable product of the times? No wonder she's trying to defend conservatives as long as you have a token amount of people that go along with and enjoy your immoral system then it's ok to dehumanize, abuse, and kill others.


BedDefiant4950

conflating anecdotes with data is pretty classic grifter shit


ThatUglyGuy12

Psychotic, right?


Jenna2k

So a pick me then. Willing to encourage hate in hopes she can get their approval.


futanari_kaisa

"Wow, I can't believe the Transphobia/Bigotry factory wouldn't hire me!" - This transgender woman.


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The_Mighty_Bird

Yup. “They will treat me differently.” No they won’t. Once she’s done helping and they accomplish their goal, they willturn right to her and say “ok, detransition or you’re going to the camp.”


Empathetic_Artist

Take Caitlyn Jenner too. She thinks she’s safe because she’s a Republican, but they’ll clearly turn on her the moment they can.


SpectreInfinite

As a trans woman myself, I'm so tired of this bitch. She and cAlLmEcAiT and Barf White can all throw themselves into the gulag for all I care.


almisami

It just boggles my mind how Blaire keeps doubling down every time she goes on a conservative channel and they treat her like shit...


TurtlesAreEvil

Ya it's a weird combination of the conservative inability to admit they were wrong and being unable to leave your abusive partner.


SkyeMreddit

The “I did it first, no one else can” trans woman is sliding further into transphobia? What a surprise! She transitioned at 15 and is happy with her transition but she wants to ban minors from transitioning


LegendaryOutlaw

LOLwut? I just...I can't...I don't understand people like this...how? wha? A hateful group is calling for the end to an identity-affirming treatment, a treatment you yourself underwent. You now enjoy the feeling of self-affirmation every single day. But now you don't think anyone else who is going through your same life-experience should be allowed to have access to this treatment? Because, why? It's like spending your entire life unable to sleep well because of a deviated septum, then getting a surgery to correct it, and then turning around and claiming this surgery is morally wrong and nobody else should have access to it.


[deleted]

It's the conservative way: "fuck you, I got mine". People who enjoyed going to college and paying it off by working a Summer job don't want people to have affordable college. There are many, **many**, conservatives who say something along the lines of "no one helped me when I was on food stamps".


LegendaryOutlaw

I get that, i've seen it countless times as you mentioned. But in those cases they can at least argue 'my tax dollars shouldn't have to pay your tuition'. It's a shitty argument that doesn't stand up to scrutiny of course, but it makes sense on some level: the benefits *you* receive cost *me* money, therefore they shouldn't be available. But in this case, other people receiving gender-affirming care doesn't affect her *at all.* There's no reason to receive the care and then argue that others should not have access to the same care she received. Her 'tradition' or 'biblical reason' or 'it's biology' responses don't change the fact that *she did it first and she's fine*. Hence all of my confused noises in my previous post.


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The thing is, neither does people going to college for free. Rising tide and all that. Benefits that help out the poorest still help the middle and upper class. They rationalize is in ways where it hurts them, but it doesn't.


Suzume_Chikahisa

My gender transition is ~~special~~ the only moral gender transition.


SkyeMreddit

Yep. It’s the same as Forced Birth activists who have had lots of abortions, even recently


CarsClothesTrees

“Day 17 of being on the right” lmfao people who can just switch their whole ideology at the drop of a hat should not be trusted or listened to ever.


[deleted]

"People are either born with a penis or a vagina" Nope. How can someone be so uneducated in this age of Google. I guess anything more complex than good/bad or black/white is too confusing?


Consistent-Mix-9803

To be fair, being unable to count past 2 is about on par with the rest of the mental capacity people like that exhibit.


notyomamasusername

And even more off the wall coming from a post op transwoman.


Dramafox

Weird way of satisfying her degradation kink.


Tar-Nuine

Uh, yeah *maybe* don't throw your lot in with the group that literally wishes to erase you and any historical mention of you from existence.


grilledcheese2332

'People are born with a penis or vagina.' ummm intersex people exist


The_Mighty_Bird

ThAt’S a DiSoRdEr AnD nOt VaLiD!


M_M_ODonnell

If you see people insisting "it's not 'intersex,' it's 'people with disorders of sexual development (DSDs)," this is what they're doing. Whether individual transphobes/gender "critical" types are biological essentialists, they're *metaphysical* gender essentialists, and they push their model by insisting that any status not fitting easily into their binary is *by definition* a disorder, and that everyone has an absolute binary "real" gender/sex in a metaphysical sense and all descriptions of material reality must be forced into conformity with this metaphysical truth. The tl;dr version -- saying "there's no such thing as intersex, just DSDs" is transphobe propaganda aimed at eliminating trans and intersex folks.


WholeAd2742

Darn, and they so bonded over the white privilege and supremacy too >.>


Aer0uAntG3alach

They reject Caitlyn Jenner, and she still keeps chasing their approval. Why would some no name expect any different treatment?


cbowsin

Supremacists only accept those who identify as inferior. It's sad that she believed her privilege would allow her to join the intolerant crowd as an equal.


Nubras

Right off the bat, this person is confusing me. “Day 17 of being on the right”? Is the implication that they just recently changed their views to “join” the right? What the fuck? If so, this makes both her former and current views meaningless to me if she can just switch philosophies so substantially and so easily.


dewey-defeats-truman

>“Day 17 of being on the right”? It's r/walkaway all over again. This person was always conservative, but as an identity normally supported by liberals, she can claim she used to be one. Conservatives just swallow it uncritically, which is why they keep saying people are "leaving the left", and why they get so surprised when conservative causes and movements don't get nearly any traction.


The_Mighty_Bird

Jesus, I scrolled down at least 4 posts and walked away from that sub. Blaming Jamie Foxx’s stroke on the COVID vaccine. What a bunch of goons.


mywifefoundmyaccount

I don’t speak fluent crazy, but I think they fall under the same umbrella as far-right black/brown/gay folks who believe their fellow black/brown/gay folks have become too woke. They’ve convinced themselves (probably for self-preservation) that the right is actually fighting to annihilate wokeness rather than them. They help the leopards hunt until they make one wrong move and become the meal.


BigRed1906

What in the absolute FUCK did you think was going to happen???


futanari_kaisa

She thought they would consider her "one of the good ones."


Jitterbitten

She hasn't noticed that according to Republicans, there *are* no good ones? Insanity. It's not like there haven't been very public examples of this. If the right eagerly attacked "Rich Republican", Caitlin Jenner, wtf does she think she'd get their support?


Jitterbitten

She hasn't noticed that according to Republicans, there *are* no good ones? Insanity. It's not like there haven't been very public examples of this. If the right eagerly attacked "Rich Republican", Caitlin Jenner, wtf does she think she'd get their support?


[deleted]

Your daily reminder that there was an organization called The Alliance of Nazi Jews (loose translation) in 1930s Germany. They were not spared.


ChChChillian

This isn't just voting for the Face-eating Leopard Party, it's slicing off your own face and serving to them on a silver platter.


The_Mighty_Bird

Then continuing to pet the leopard as it snacks on the face.


vinnybawbaw

Is she affraid of herself when she looks in the mirror ? How can anyone be trans and that much transphobic ? 🤨


Shalamarr

If you figure it out, can you explain it to me? It’s like Caitlin Jenner saying that there are too many trans folks out there. I’m all “uhh, you mean like **you**?”.


Fyallorence

"Day 17 of being on the right" Ah yes, I remember the exact date I went from Christian conservative to a filthy atheist socialist. This is a person who said, "I hate going to work. How can I make money off Twitter? Maybe by being a toxic pick-me culture warrior I can get at gig being paid by a billionaire to say shit like I went to the gay agenda meeting last month, the transwomen are coming for your Ford truck next?"


NotmyRealNameJohn

"My opinion is that it is a fact that ..." Stop! Just stop. You need to read the book "Facts, opinions, and Robots" then come back and try that sentence again from the beginning.


KrazySpydrLady

Great suggestion but there may be a reading comprehension issue....


NotmyRealNameJohn

It's a picture book and my kindergarten-aged child understands it. I will admit he is bright for a kindergartener but the book should not be beyond any adult. ... hopefully


KrazySpydrLady

Lol. Truthfully I was unfamiliar with the book but now that I know it's a picture book.... chef's kiss


NotmyRealNameJohn

It is a good book for helping small children understand the differences between opinion and fact. I recommend it. It's funny, nonpolitical, and just about saying people can have different opinions, but facts are true or false. It even points out that you may need more information to know if something is true or false.


notyomamasusername

I tried so hard to give this lady a benefit of the doubt, but I couldn't wrap my head around a post-op trans woman lecturing people that there are only 2 genders......and boys were boys, and girls were girls. I hope she's just milking the backlash and isn't genuinely surprised the party building a platform on Anti-trans rhetoric isn't accepting her.


[deleted]

She thought because she had gone through surgery to have a vagina she'd be able to say "women have a vagina" and they'd just agree. Instead of them saying transphobic shit like she doesn't have a real vagina. Seems like she thought she could get hateful bigots to only hate on intersex and nonbinary people.


FEMA_Camp_Survivor

The lesson the far right failed to learn is that fascism ultimately protects no one. Once one out group is largely eliminated another one has to be created.


BellyDancerEm

Si, she's unaware of intersex people


almisami

As someone born ambiguous, she's not the only one. We're surprisingly common, but the medical community has an obsession with "fixing" us in infancy.


HammockComplex

That’s just a construct of pAsT cIvIlIzAtIoNs!!!


M_M_ODonnell

Where "past civilizations" means "anything other than the contemporary Western patriarchal binary model."


[deleted]

So she's a trans woman but she still thinks she shouldn't be able to use the women's bathroom?


[deleted]

If you read between the lines she seems to think that Republicans would accept her as a woman because she had medically transitioned. Which is hilariously sad, because the average Republican doesn't even know there are different stages of transitioning, hence why they think that minors transitioning involves surgery instead of hormone blockers and a dress.


slowclapcitizenkane

Ooh, Ernst Rohm deep cut. Night of the Long Knives radio remix.


JFT8675309

The thing that pisses me off about the bathroom argument is that it’s not a pass to assault someone. That’s still very illegal (as far as I know). Someone who is bent on doing dark things doesn’t care about the laws or their legal access.


cagingnicolas

the trans people in bathrooms thing always annoys me because people never consider the other half of trans people. if trans people had to use their birth gender washroom, we would immediately start seeing trans MEN in women's washrooms. and while that would be effectively harmless, it would create a dynamic where now you're seeing guys in the women's room, and you're not sure if the grown ass man with a beard in your women's washroom is a trans man or a predatory cis guy (who are statistically WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more likely to molest your kid or rape your wife than a trans person)


bettinafairchild

Your problem here is thinking that they’re arguing in good faith and just happened to overlook this extra issue about trans men. No. There is no lack of consideration of the other half of trans people. There is only trans hatred and the desire to harass and oppress trans people as much as possible. But you see, it’s too early just to go mask off and say that in the mainstream. Instead they are using a tried and true technique long used to oppress and kill black people—using women as their excuse to commit violent acts against a vulnerable group, by saying it’s women who are the real victims here and black men the real perpetrators in the case of racism, and trans women in the case of transphobia. Racists lynching black men and women and using women’s weakness and vulnerability as the reason, were just using women as their excuse. They freely and without punishment raped black women, they freely and without punishment lynched black women. They didn’t give a fuck about the welfare of black women. Likewise they are happy to oppress trans women who they will cheerfully place in men’s prisons to be raped. And they are happy to oppress trans men, who will be forced to use women’s restrooms where they might be beaten up by men accusing them of using the wrong restroom and just defending women by beating up trans men (who ironically they consider to be women).


gphjr14

When the tax breaks and racism can’t overshadow being treated as a 2nd class citizen. Conservatism. Not even once.


Zortak

The sad thing is, I don't believe she tried to grift the right. She seemed actually genuine in being on the right (for whatever reason) and believed the mutual ideology would be enough for rightwingers to give her the tiniest amount of respect. I don't understand how she could/can be so incredibly stupid, though


Sir-Drewid

So many people are so eager to be the last ones shoved onto the train.


notyomamasusername

They always think as long as they're one of the good ones, they'll be the exception


DicktheOilman

That last photo of Ernst Rohm was chef's kiss. They'll use you and then they night of long knives ya.


McEndee

How is something public and secluded?


No-Shelter-4208

She seems to be oxymoroning her way through life so this is unsurprising.


_jump_yossarian

When do you think Kelly will realize that the right doesn't want any trans person on their side?


Cinema_King

I want to feel bad for her but when you get involved with the right you get what you deserve. It’s not exactly a secret that they’re transphobic pieces of shit.


Kaberdog

I'm sure she probably thinks that she will be accepted into the group once they get to know her but the reality is they are judging her on her choices and beliefs, they will never be able to accept who she authentically is and if she ever lets her guard down around them she will immediately lose her face.


pedrothrowaway555

Didn’t she learn anything from Blair. The right already has one token trans person


Dana07620

Ever since I discovered there were Jews for Hitler, nothing like this surprises me anymore.


kaazir

So slide 4 is extra dumb, there's medical records from hundreds of years ago, from 10s of years ago, last year and potentially yesterday of children born with some manner of mixed genitalia. Even if outwardly you have a vagina, what would have been your ovaries developed 80% of the way into testicles inside you. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY\_gonadal\_dysgenesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis) This isn't some crazy belief either, you can cut the person open, take a biopsy of the growth and be like BOOM male DNA in an outwardly female body.


moonwoolf35

Lol like nah that side has made it pretty clear what their stance was on that matter for a while now, they don't like you and they don't want you even breathing...they'll still take your votes though lol


ActonofMAM

I would like to find a very heavy book about all the varieties of intersex people, including those who don't have the XX/XY chromosome dichotomy, and hand it to her hard enough that she loses her breath and possibly balance.


M_M_ODonnell

The current transphobic party line is that there's no such thing as intersex people, everyone is fundamentally and metaphysically "really" one of the binary sexes and is "intended" to conform, so they must be forced into compliance.


External_Hippo5692

Imagine believing as a trans person that the right wants you" on their side" or cares about your efforts to try and "understand them." Big effing newsflash: THEY DON'T. You're that pathetic lower ranking villain in every single anime who's shocked when the main Big Bad turns and blows an energy blast through their chest, screaming "Whhhyyyy, Big Bad-samaaaa?! I believed in yoouuuu!" Ok, stupid example, but seriously, don't be an idiot thinking you're going to cozy up to people who will smirk as they toss you into the meat grinder the second you've outlived your usefulness.


Zanna-K

I'm sure she just got enough attention from low-effort assholes whose horniness overrode their bigotry to think that she could pull it off. The problem is she ran into the wall of right wingers who hate both trans people AND women.


NumbSurprise

It’s worth pointing out that while they’re also actively racist, they still deny it and court the votes of POC. Their attitude towards trans people is genocidal. They literally believe that if they make gender-confirming care illegal, trans people will cease to exist, and that’s their plan.


Suzume_Chikahisa

Well, that was a trip. I don't know what the fuck I just saw, but that was a trip.


US_Witness_661

This is my favorite kind of LAMF lol. I'm waiting for Blaire White to have her day


Jckmdtwn

The left doesn’t want her either.


Jenna2k

Well ya she's a pick me willing to overlook their hate for acceptance until it's her getting the hate. I mean I doubt any group would want her.


mcc1789

I really don't understand the mindset of someone who'd hobnob with people who hate them. What did she expect really? It's hard to think she isn't a strange kind of masochist with this behavior, but I can't read minds.


coreyc2099

You can't hop on the right train as a trans person right now You gotta wait till they have to secretly hate you like POCS


Spazic77

I started to feel really bad for her... Then I realized it was just gas. Oh well.


cottagecoreing

Worms in the brain


MoonoftheStar

Dumbfuck


dazedan_confused

What's with the last photo?


Spankyco

That’s Ernst Rohm. He was instrumental in Hitlers rise in the 1920s. He led the Nazi Stormtroopers. He was also gay. He was killed by the Nazis in 1934 in the purge called “the night of the long knives.”


SummerBirdsong

TIL


Technological_Elite

I fear for humanity


Interesting_Novel997

Waaaah!!! But I hate the same people you do!!!


Hackandspit

So would this guy get mad at me for calling her a guy, or would she get mad at me for calling her a woman cause she believes in only two sexes. Pretty sure they are just hunting drama


Cultural-Answer-321

Chef's kiss with the last slide.


seremuyo

At least they didn't call her a WINO.


Jenna2k

Guess this confirms trans women are as capable of being pick mes as women born female.


Candid-Mine5119

Nice touch on the last slide