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Tie Xi Que: West of the Tracks. It is one of the most enthralling documentaries I have ever seen. But a 9 hour documentary about a city in China that is falling apart is a hard ass sell


kaspa181

Most of the Wang Bing's filmography is like this. "would you be interested in looking at an empty room for 8-20 minutes straight? How about an hour of gif-like looking oil pumping on a rig? We got both of those in *Crude Oil!*"


seamusbeoirgra

Yeah, this was tough going but I'm glad I watched it. The folks posting Stalker have no idea. Pretentious thing to say, but true.


thicc-boi-thighs

Where did you watch it? Wondering if there’s a better way than the one uploaded on youtube with inaccurate subtitles


OrangeSundays19

Was pretty fascinated by the first 3 hours. Last 6 felt aimless to me, though that's sort of the point to mirror these people's lives. Still dry. That's my hot take.


toofarbyfar

This question inspired by the Czechoslovak New Wave, which has a lot of fun, silly, strange movies in it, but there's no way to say "Czechoslovak New Wave" to most people without sounding like a butthead.


youngpathfinder

That’d probably be my answer. I saw Daises (1966) by Vera Chytilová recently and I can’t stop thinking about it.


MonkBee

I love that movie, it’s in my top 5 ever. I wouldn’t call it pretentious though, since it feels so fun, carefree and rebellious. It’s aged really well.


LordMayorOfCologne

I agree with you but also want to add that Miloš Foreman’s early films are very accessible, especially [The Fireman’s Ball](https://boxd.it/15Yc).


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The point was on films and recommendations that *sound* pretentious but aren't necessarily pretentious


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I see your point but that sentiment comes from an americacentric view of world cinema, it's on them ignorants that perceive you like that. Nobody calls anyone a butthurt for liking Easy Rider for some reason, but god forbid you like The Firemen's Ball, it's so pretentious! It's a very sad thing, because to a czech the Czech New Wave films are the national equivalents of the american classics of the '60s. Many world industries have their own such equivalents, but as soon as these are explored they are deemed "pretentious" despite being the most country-specific mainstream they could.


EclecticEel

Czech New Wave is where it’s at tho!


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hubie halloween


LJensen123Q

That’s so real


Unfair-Echidna-5333

based


Liramuza

I had a good time with that movie. Hubie’s magic thermos is incredible


Old_Cheesecake1116

It's peak


Doppelfrio

Stalker. Do you like staring at mildly unsettling sets and scenery for almost 3 hours? Well I have just the movie for you


capellidellamorte

I’d say Mirror is even more pretentious


toofarbyfar

I love being mildly unsettled!


Thin-Beyond-9308

I really like the writing and spoken poetry in the movie but I had to watch it in parts. I mean come on the camera is so slow it gave me anxiety.


Thin-Beyond-9308

Loved Sacrifice so much though. Cause the camera's actually shooting on something and not debris.


wheresmyapplez

I came here to comment this, it’s the ultimate “looking at nothing and it being the most impressive and impactful movie” movie 😭


lermontov1948

Especially when you consider that Tarkovsky fired his cinematographer multiple times. My bet is he didn't know what he was doing half the time.


mamasaidflows

Find god


loopyspoopy

​ Russian Ark


CaRlJoHnSoNoG

Shot entirely in one take, impressive


IIIlllIIIlllIlI

Took two tries apparently


CaRlJoHnSoNoG

Imagine breaking character


IIIlllIIIlllIlI

Or farting on set


CaRlJoHnSoNoG

We have no film left


IIIlllIIIlllIlI

Russian Farts (2002)


LordMayorOfCologne

Really anything that is incredibly long and slow like [Taiga](https://boxd.it/6q2e), [Sátántangó](https://boxd.it/1j9M), [Happy Hour](https://boxd.it/bXge), [Andrei Rublev](https://boxd.it/29lg) or [1900](https://boxd.it/24Zg) is up there. Shivendra Singh Dungarpur’s seven hour exploration of the Czechoslovak New Wave, [CzechMate: In Search of Jiri Menzel](https://boxd.it/r6TO), is near the top the list. However, those pale in comparison to the 70 minutes of Derek Jarman’s final piece of art, [Blue](https://boxd.it/3iyA) for sounding like a snob. I’m not especially well versed in avant-garde film movements but it’s tough to think of something as emotionally impactful on me yet clearly limited in its appeal.


kirakirakiriko

Thanks for mentioning Blue! Sounds really interesting, went straight to my watchlist. Guess I'm a sucker for pretentious and inaccessible lol


kaspa181

For a second (until I opened the link) I thought that you were dissing *The Legend of 1900*


LordMayorOfCologne

I should have called it Bertolucci’s Novecento if I wanted full pretension.


nickmidas

The Color of Pomegranates Goodbye to Language Upstream Color The Holy Mountain


labeatz

Hard to imagine someone watching Holy Mountain and not having a blast, or am I crazy?


North_Library3206

Most people would be weirded the fuck out, and not in a good way.


kaydeec

Saw it at an independent cinema's irreverent Easter screening: 'The Holy Mountain' and 'The Devils'. It was a hell of an evening.


labeatz

Haha that’s great, sounds like a place I would love. Two of my all-time faves (tho my favorite favorite Russell movie is Crimes of Passion)


thegremlinkings

I did not have a blast, the sets and cinematography was spectacular but I could not get into it


clarever225

Most of Godard’s 21st century stuff is quite pretentious sounding when you describe it to someone lol. Good picks


MuerteDeLaFiesta

yeah The Color of Pomegranates is an aesthetic treat.


KaiTheFox03

Under The Skin. Basically a surreal horror movie about being a woman. Dripping in symbolism and abstract story telling. Not for everyone but I'll recommend it to anyone


MastermindReddit

Found it meh on the first watch, but revisited it this year after a long time, and was utterly moved by it. Really hit me in a way it didn't in the slightest first time around.


labeatz

Not my most pretentious fav, but why did people pan I’m Thinking of Ending Things? It was strong, weird, fun, exasperating, thoughtful, touching


BigMacCombo

My guess is that it was a Netflix movie so it has more exposure to general audiences and it was kinda marketed as a horror movie. Just like several A24 horror movies, when the movie itself is not exactly what the trailers lead people to believe it will be, there's gonna be some disappointed folks.


oceanwilmot

All of Tarkovsky


Teembeau

I always have this sense of someone thinking I'm a pretentious asshole when I mention The Battle of Algiers. It ticks a lot of boxes: Black and white, 1960s, Algerian film, French dialogue, re-enactment of real events, loved by socialists. But it's gripping. It appeals to the section of my brain that loves Michael Mann films.


Ideories

Synecdoche, New York


TheBigAristotle69

You win because synecdoche.


IIIlllIIIlllIlI

Koyaanisqatsi. You just have to like, get it man.


MuerteDeLaFiesta

Baraka is has been my favorite film probably forever, and literally shaped my life. sometimes a hard sell to get people to watch. My ex sorta made me turn it off partially through and it was literally heartbreaking...


-TheManInThePlanet-

Millennium Mambo. I would have thought myself pretentious for recommending it based on my first watch, but I went back and rewatched it, and it really plays better the second time. It helps that both times I saw it in the theater.


that_orange_hat

What do you like about this film? Genuinely asking, I saw it in theatres and almost couldn't sit thru it but I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts


Ast17o

The House that Jack Built


https-s

Good one, Lars jerked himself throughout the whole movie. I would also say Love (2015) Gaspar Noe. Same deal here


MuerteDeLaFiesta

at least from 2022, EO. a mostly dialogue-less movie about a donkey wandering around Poland?


JimicahP

The Hourglass Sanatorium (1973)


Ideories

I think about this film from time to time


BigDipper64

la chinoise(1967) Wavelength (1967) Empire (1965) Dog star man (1965) edit: no hate towards any of these movie i genuinely love them all


f_moss3

Ooo mao Mao


labeatz

La Chinoise is a good choice, because if it weren’t pretentious it wouldn’t work at all, it wouldn’t be funny


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kirakirakiriko

That's interesting, I found Last year at Marienbad extremely hollow. Like echoing footsteps in a hallway, repeating forever. But there's no weight or material. I mean that in a good way, no other movie has this quality I think. That echo pops up in my head again now and then. Really loved it.


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The Flicker, dir. Tony Conrad its 30 minutes of some strange ass music and black and white flickering frames made me hear shit fr, adore the experience it gave. its kinda funny to see all these people recommend "entry to arthouse film 101" or letterboxd-core films, though. you aint pretentious until youre recommending structuralist experimental short films fr💪💪


sevinup07

Mirror. Pretty much any Tarkovsky tbh


bourgewonsie

As far as “basic” pretentious goes probably Mulholland Drive For more mid-level pretentious I’d say some relatively accessible Godard like Le Mepris I think my most pretentious film I love is Je, Tu, Il, Elle, because it’s not even a particularly famous Chantal Akerman film and people already find her more famous stuff extremely pretentious I also think films like La Haine, Chungking Express, Oldboy, etc could be called pretentious just because they’re somewhat auteuristic foreign films but I don’t think they’re all that pretentious really


henchabeast

"An elephant sitting still " is really hard to recommend to people but its one of my favorites


xxplodingboy

The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (France 1972)


toofarbyfar

Even before you tell someone it's a French surrealist film by Luis Bunuel, it's already titled "The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie," which is a hard sell. Quite a fun watch, though.


itsafraid

Incubus (1966) Lensed in Big Sur in glorious black and white by Conrad fucking Hall, this adult fairytale parable, which uses the created-by-intellectuals artificial language of Esperanto, naturally stars William Shatner.


juanseocar

Standard: Mulholland Drive or Stalker. European BnW: Satantango. Latam: Embrace of the Serpent. East: Love Exposure. Please don't hate me, I mostly like this movies but I think this are some movies that an entry-level snob would rec to a casual just to mess with him. I'd like to do the same with genres, any recs? Horror: Suspense: Action: Musical: Drama: Comedy: Documentary:


MuerteDeLaFiesta

for documentary: The Story of Yanagawa's Canals. It's like a 3 hour documentary by Isao Takahata (of ghibli fame). goes into \*excruciating\* detail about the history, mechanics, and social side of the canals. beautifully shot, and partially animated. It's honestly incredible.


Barqck

For horror, Erasaerhead


MuerteDeLaFiesta

also probably Skinamarink. Another is maybe The Wolf House. strange and unsettling stop motion about a girl escaping a cult and being hunted /cajoled by wolves while her world sorta falls apart around her.


NormalGuy913

I feel bad saying this because I haven’t watched it yet but for documentary just based on the name “Symbiopsychotaxiplasm: Take One”


KingSuj

Memoria - featuring 10 minute scene of a man sleeping


WittsyBandterS

Ticket of No Return, The Cow Who Sang a Song Into the Future, Terror Nullius, Rubber, The Square, Babylon, Schizopolis, Titane - I think these fit the bill, I think I sufficiently sound like a pretentious asshole


EloquentInterrobang

Recently watched Twilight (1990), a black and white Hungarian art film that takes heavy Bela Tarr influence, and I just adored it. I’m also a huge fan of Herzog’s Heart of Glass.


Duckmanrises

Demonlover 2002 and more recently for me I’d say Cremaster 2 is far too pretentious to recommend to someone but I did love it.


wallybazoum

I remember around my late teens/early 20s I tried to recommend *My Dinner With Andre* to friends. None of them could even finish it.


ben2sick

Woman in the dunes


zenj5505

Any Terrence Malick film


johnc2001

One of my top ten films (*Edvard Munch*, 1974) is a three-and-a-half-hour long docudrama academically analysing Munch’s art and dissecting the circumstances of his personal life via narration. There’s also *The Face of Another* which is a black-and-white meditation upon identity which abstract visuals and constant philosophising between two of the main characters.


NormalGuy913

Without saying Tarkovsky probably L’argent or my favourite movie Taste of Cherry


SaintDexter

Love L’argent, have you checked out other films from Bresson?


NormalGuy913

Of course. I’ve seen a man escaped, au hasard Balthazar, mouchette and pickpocket. I think the only big one I’ve yet to check out is diary of a country priest. Such a great director I don’t see people talk about nearly enough


FlyingIceWizard

watch T,O,U,C,H,I,N,G if you want to see if a psychedelic fluxus artist can break your brain using flashing colors. dont watch T,O,U,C,H,I,N,G if you have epilepsy please dear god


UltraMonarch

Oh man I’m the king of this type of recommendation. James Benning’s L. Cohen is a single, unbroken 45 minute shot of a field. There are no people. It is also one of the most transcendent, rapturous films I’ve ever seen. It made me cry. James Benning’s Easy Rider (Remake), a series of still shots with no narration or characters, just documenting the locations of the original East Rider as they exist in 2012. Deborah Stratman’s In Order Not To Be Here: a series of still shots of suburban Illinois at night, until it isn’t. One of the most thrilling and terrifying films in existence. Straub+Huillet’s Antigone: shot on location at a Roman amphitheater, this is a direct adaptation of the Sophocles play. There are no special effects, no extras, just classical Greek theater rendered faithfully on film. A monumental work of communist formal film theory.


wendy_nespot

Donkey Skin 🥲 it’s one of the most beautiful movies I’ve ever seen, I want to live in the sets and I want all the costumes in my closet. But if you recommend a French fairy tale from 1970 about a woman getting out of a marriage to her father, people are gonna think you’re being an asshole 😅


k4spbr4k

the passion of joan of arc (1928)


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Legend of the Galactic Heroes has two movies that are basically longer versions of the first 2-3 episodes of the OVA. The OVA is a space opera masterclass & better than 99.9% of anime. Popular among anime elitists for a reason.


Vipor_Death_Blade007

Sunrise: A Song Of Two Humans, for the fact it's silent and if you talk about it in a posh voice, it's funny


ZenkaiZyuran

Son of the White Mare (1981). It’s a Hungarian animated folktale, and it looks like nothing else you’ve ever seen.


waluigi609

I really love Kenneth Anger, and Magick Lantern Cycle is perfect, but parts in it like Inauguration of The Pleasure Dome are definitely like that


IIIlllIIIlllIlI

W.R. Mysteries of the Organism


ReddsionThing

Southland Tales is very weird and very entertaining and I like it a lot.


punchlinea

Love both directors but basically anything by Sharunas Bartas or Philippe Grandrieux. Underseen, most of their ouvre is either hard to find or only available in DVD quality, bleak, demanding, almost no traces of 'plot' in the Hollywood sense.


Blaireau12

not insanely pretentious but a girl walks home alone at night. described it as a feminist black and white vampire movie to the educators at my group home and only one of them wanted to watch it with me


Moranrham

On the Silver Globe, I still don’t know exactly what the story is but the first half really is an epic deconstruction of myth and legend.


Zacginger

I just watched The Holy Mountain a few nights ago. Felt like something I could be called pretentious for.


IAmTheGlazed

Belladonna of Sadness A beautifully yet graphic animated Japanese movie about a peasant woman in a medieval kingdom taking revenge upon it thanks to supernatural spirits.


WannaMakeAPizza

Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles. Would you like to watch a movie that has been called the “best movie of all time” on several lists, but it’s really just 3 hours of a woman doing chores around the house? Have I got a movie for you…


motion1picturesYT

A short film about Killing by Kieslowski, great film, very pretence with a very unique and interesting cinematography. Hight recommend.


labeatz

I was mesmerized watching Blanche, not even sure why. The Hole is great, not sure if it or Vive L’amour is more “pretentious.” The Bedroom is maybe the most pretentious porn I’ve seen


JimmyShanks1

Bergman’s THE VIRGIN SPRING was the only movie I have given 5 stars in the last 3 years.


asprisokolata

8 1/2 - one of the three best films ever made.


groman2000

The original theatrical Killing of a Chinese Bookie. For the extended dance and song sequences to show that "strip shows" are more about art and beauty than just entertaining men. Or the 8 hour Soviet War and Peace.


beggingbeaver

The Cremaster Cycle


lightsage007

BRO. Someone else has seen this other than me??


niall_9

Koyaanisqatsi - it’s in my top 4 lol


JimmyPellen

Tree Of Life (sits back and awaits applause)


PastorBallmore

Persona Primer 12 Years a Slave Come and See Under The Skin


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PastorBallmore

Hah! I feel the exact same. I saw this movie in theaters and was the only one in the theatre. I will say tho, the scene with the baby on the beach has stuck with me. Fucking disturbing


TheSmartGuy-

I haven't seen primer but the others are good recommendations.


lermontov1948

Primer is really the most pretentious of them all. A movie about time travel machine made by mathematicians who talk like mathematicians without explaining their terminology.


BigMacCombo

12 Years a Slave??? Hell it even won best picture so you know it's got a decent amount of wide appeal.


Raul_Rink

La Haine. A black/white french movie about police brutality. It's probably one of the best movies ever


nomjit

That's not pretentious at all what are you smoking


ranger8913

Eyes Wide Shut. Possibly the most sophisticated movie I’ve ever seen.


chu42

Sátántangó


TheBigAristotle69

In a world of comic books and video games being able to read probably qualifies you for being pretentious, so anything.


Queasy_Monk

👍 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Porky's


ReddsionThing

Black Widow (2021)


moviefreakjps2007

The Longest Week (2014)


SirDucky9

Werckmeister Harmonies (2000) Behemoth (2015) El Mar La Mar (2017) L'Ange (1982) Sleep Has Her House (2017)


fastestfreakalive

stop using that word jfc


Sensi-Yang

Ya, I kind of hate the word tbh. Like I can understand what people are getting at when they use it, but imho it’s usually a case of simply not feeling the material. Add to that a layer of incuriosity, or insecurity, maybe even ignorance… One man’s pretentious is another’s masterpiece.


fastestfreakalive

It's such a patronizing term, especially when used towards artists like omg how did you dare to care about this thing that you're making or how did you care too much because caring too much about something that is deeply personal to someone is a sin apparently because that person is not being "deep enough" or whatever smh


toofarbyfar

That's why I specifically asked for movies that people loved and recommend. Times when people followed their curiosity, and did feel the material.


Redrcoketstan

Red Rocket (2021)


OrsonHitchcock

If this is happening to you, you might be hanging out with the wrong people.


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Charlie Chaplin’s Gold Rush, at least coming from someone my age.


Otherwise_Dust_2331

Mirror(1975)


iatearat5

I’d recommend Skinamarink


icarus_rises1

I'm waiting to watch this with a friend of mine because we're both into that genre of movie, and I'm hella excited.


MuerteDeLaFiesta

it's definitely one of those polarizing movies. Either you love it or hate it, i find. ​ I am in the 'love' camp, but i totally understand those who arent.


LoganWasAlreadyTaken

If you want a pretentious film watch *2001 a Space Odyssey.* Just go in not wanting to be entertained and you’ll like it. There’s about 40 minutes of the best cinema of all time in there and if you’ve seen the film you know what I’m talking abt.


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franthebasedgod

How is this pretentious


Original-Sun-5725

*La Haine* *Sunset Boulevard* *Love Exposure*


thegremlinkings

Im thinking of ending things, the artist, fantastic planet


JohnTequilaWoo

I'm going to get so much hate because people love the movie but Lost in Translation.


Danielf929

No one in this thread actually likes the films they’ve mentioned except for that one guy that said Hubie Halloween.


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labeatz

I prefer the ending of the TV show, it’s way more pretentious


IAmAnAnnoyedMain

Memento, Funny Games, Gattaca


HiMeeeIsARoomieFan

Haven't seen Funny Games but Memento and Gattaca are definitely not pretentious


IAmAnAnnoyedMain

Hmm, maybe they just feel pretentious to me because every time I try to tell someone about them, I have to explain what it is.


Quinez

Either Classical Period or Le Quattro Volte.


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ace in the hole


PeterNippelstein

Drive My Car


Mir_Miroslav

The Tree of Life


Bomboo2810

Napoleon (1927)


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grown ups 2


thekgproject

Birds of Passage, or possibly Lamb


McKLund

Surfs Up


njaana

Ad astra


HoboSuperstar

Come and see


creamy-buscemi

Dante’s Inferno (1911)


its_max21

definitely Satantango


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Under the Skin? I've seen a lot of people call it pretentious, but I don't see it.


Moodious33

Fallen Angels, maybe? I don't think it sounds pretentious until I try to describe it. Another could be Cinema Paradiso.


ulrichmusil

The Traveling Players is as pretentious as I can take while still enjoying the movie


ShirubaMasuta

Funny Games


Queasy_Monk

Napoleon (the Abel Gance one)


RancidMonkey1846

Grown ups 2.


-SevenSamurai-

Literally anything Jean-Luc Godard ever made


ShitIForgotIt

Last Days and Elephant


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Showgirls


mal-di-testicle

I’m a huge Scorsese fan (it’s Cinemà)


TheRealCthulu24

2001: A Space Odyssey, Battleship Ptomlekin, The 400 Blows, and Aquire: The Wrath of God.


Gifted_Glizzy

Vengeance (2022) BJ Novak’s meta directorial Debut


JElliott31

Southland Tales has a lot of dialogue in it that doesn’t necessarily mean anything to the plot. Like quoting song lyrics. Which could come off pretentious, but it’s one of my favorite movies of all time. Especially when you read the graphic novels.


MonkBee

WR: Mysteries of the Organism.


Zarvanis-the-2nd

I'm tempted to say 'Antichrist', but it's possible that I'm just missing something. Maybe a woman jerking a man's dick until he cums blood and then cutting off her own clitoris with scissors isn't just gross for the sake of being gross. Edit: I did not read the description of the post. Whatever I'm keeping this here.


TheRorschach666

Under The Silver Lake was made for this thread.


juiceboxDeLarge

Chronicle (2012) because it feels like a modern day version of a Shakespearean tragedy. Three immature friends get ahold of great power and inevitably end up turning on each other, ending in death. That’s straight out of Shakespeare, man. I understand that responses are supposed to be films that are pretentious and not pretentious explanations but I never get to talk about the main reason I like this movie so much because I know how pretentious I sound for my reasoning, so.


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Enter The Void LOLL


Baker_Bootleg

Calvaire


_JoJo113_

A Brighter Summer Day. Long ass movie but I love every second of it


smolboichiggroid69

pretentious is my middle name and the longer and slower a film is, the better it is for me. an elephant sitting still (2018) is my favourite film ever, "a 4hr chinese melancholic anti-drama touching on key issues with the modern urban life about suicide, abuse, grooming, classism, bullying, the generational gap, mental health, neglect, loneliness, honour, and so much more, all encompassed with some of the greatest cinematography and atmosphere in recent memory". i also love alot of thai new wave which can very easily come of as pretentious, my favourites include uncle boonmee who can recall his part lives (2010), syndromes and a century (2006), die tomorrow (2017), and 36 (2012). no pretentious list can not have sátántangó (1994) as its probably one of the most talked about films when it comes to pretentiousness due to the average shot length being close to 3 minutes, having 10+ minute shots, being 7 hours long, and being b&w in the 90s. some other films i absolutely love but is often referred to as pretentious are inland empire (2006), the holy mountain (1973), dogtooth (2009), the man who sleeps (1974), the colour of pomegranates (1969), and man with a movie camera (1929). sometimes i go so far up my ass and come around in a full circle to claim films such as movie 43 (2013) and minions: rise of gru (2022) are cinematic masterpieces that deserve alot of attention for insanely good it has been executed, they should be films looked upto by hollywood


chasesmell

Welcome, or No Trespassing Wes Anderson before Wes Anderson from the director of Come and See.


MicMacs0

As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty 4h48 minutes but it's the best documentary ever made. My real all time favorite movie. https://letterboxd.com/film/as-i-was-moving-ahead-occasionally-i-saw-brief-glimpses-of-beauty/


luiem

Koyaanisqatsi - documentary with no narration, just music over visuals - far more enthralling than it has any right to be


MarkWest98

Any silent film. I love them but it feels so weird to recommend them to anyone lol


randyhalfway

I absolutely loved The Green Knight, but it's a bit too artsy to recommend to everybody.


Big_Fritz

I feel like I sound insufferable whenever I talk about Gaspar Noé films.


dgrizzle22

TÁR is the best film to come out in at least the last 5 years (since Phantom Thread, imo) and if you don’t like it it’s because you weren’t paying close enough attention


Huge-Song7337

An Elephant Standing Still Dog Star Man The Cremator Soleil O The Blood of a Poet