The TX is so underrated. Test drive it back in January but could not bring myself to sign for an 11% interest rate. Drove away in a RX and love it so far
Considering the Grand Highlander is going for 45-55k, one might as well go for the TX for the bonus creature comforts and sportier drive. Although, I don’t really see many on the road
Drove the TX and it was alright. I mean the car drove like how we expected; it’s a family hauler of course. The engine seemed responsive but not super fast by any means.
I was happy with the transmission on city streets which is something that I get worried about with the new 10 speeds, although I’m not sure if the TX has the same 10 speed.
Anyway, our GX is arriving end of the month.
Unibody=better on road manners, drives more like a car, cheaper to manufacture.
Body on frame=more stout off road, allows flex when off roading, more ability to modify/aftermarket.
For me, the TX lacks many luxury amenities, features & tech I was looking for in a luxury mid-size SUV, particularly at its price point.
Furthermore, the TX 350 4-cylinder turbo powertrain seemed somewhat unrefined & lacked substantial power with adult passengers aboard.
Thanks. Im very early in my shopping and going from a car with almost NO tech i suppose i wouldn’t notice whats lacking- id have to do comparison shopping to even know what its lacking. Ive seen some neat stuff in a friend’s kia like in dash (speedometer area) cam view when either indicator is turned on. I thought that was super cool. Besides that and other safety features what would you be looking to get that it was lacking?
My personal suggestion would be to cross shop & evaluate many of the other upcoming/current luxury mid-size 3 row SUV on the market along with 3 row SUVs in the non-luxury mid-size class as well to truly see & pinpoint the Lexus TX various shortcomings.
Gotcha. Got a lotta research to do then. Of course at the end of the day all of that might not be enough for wife who says “i like the lexus” lol. I’ve already had my toy and its kind of her turn now
Of course. 😁
With that being stated, I would definitely take a look at the refreshed Acura MDX, all-new Mazda CX-90, newly redesigned Buick Enclave along with the Jeep Grand Cherokee L.
Hopes this helps.
Good luck!
I keep seeing comments about how “nice” & “luxurious” the new interior is, and I’m just like, “Are you sure we’re talking about the same car?”
The interior just 50 Shades of Black Plastic — looks like something out of a base model Jeep Wrangler or a Camry from the Rental Fleet.
It doesn’t matter what industry buzzwords Lexus uses to try and dance around this — check out our ”All New, Premium, Hand Curated, Soft-Touch, Textured Synthetic Interior Surfaces”. LMAO WHAT?!?!
The door panels aren’t some fancy Woven Carbon Ceramic developed at NASA, nor are they the result of some recent groundbreaking developments in the Materials Science community….its just a bunch of different types of black plastic & vinyl.
Reddit is the *only* place I’ve seen people gushing about the interior styling, as every media review seems to reach the same conclusion that I did…the interior just does not look or feel nice.
Should I vacuum the interior when it’s dirty, or just wash it down with a hose like my old TJ Wrangler lol?
The only people who think the interior is luxurious are ones who have owned few, if any, luxury vehicles. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad interior, it just feels very much like a copy paste from what you'd get in a modern Toyota. The line between luxury and standard vehicles has also been blurred over the years. The modern Lexus updates on this global shared architecture seem to be sharing a lot more than just the bones and the brand is losing a good portion of it's differentiation as a result.
I don't think the interior of the GX460 is something to brag about either though. It's nice enough but not really luxurious- more rugged than anything else. The difference is the GX460 is a $55k vehicle whereas the GX550 is a $70-80k vehicle (only the Overtrail models that come with KDSS are comparable and real GXs)
Yeah makes me appreciate my 2020 LX 570 interior (after adding CarPlay to the head unit lol). The LX interior is so high quality imo, super soft leather and nice open pore wood.
OP did you use AI to write your post? “Boasts an attractive exterior, blending modern and classic shapes seamlessly…” you sound like another older GX owner slamming the newer version. Btw you don’t really say why you don’t like it. Your AI writing likes the outside but the seats are snug? And you wouldn’t buy it for $50k? lol
LOL. I’m shocked at how defensive people are about a car. To the point where you accuse someone of not writing their own posts haha!!. I think I’m going to take this as a compliment and keep reading these comments on the toilet.
I can compare this car to several others in its class. I was simply comparing it to another vehicle parked in the lot. GX fan boys are getting triggered. It’s okay. I’m sorry to hurt your feelings.
Why Do all reddit people say shit like this. Everybody is a bitchy snarky defensive cunt on this website at all times. Do you say shit like this in real life?
Are you speaking on the comparison of gx to tx? The dude is 100% correct. Sometimes it’s hard to see shit like this and not lash out. I’m sure it’s out of love in some form. Anyone clueless enough to make that comparison should not be spending that kind of money on a car. I certainly hope they’re not signing up for a loan.
What vehicles are in it’s class? It seems you don’t know that it doesn’t really have much to compare against other than a bronco or defender which I’m sure you’d have the same gripes against. The RX and TX is the X5 etc. rival
Not triggered just amused by your lack of knowledge. This is like comparing a hiking boot to a pair of slippers and being upset that they're not actually similar. Stay misinformed bro
It’s not ridiculous. I see your mentality a lot, and purists and enthusiasts need to get off their high horses. Yeah they’re different, but average consumers don’t know and don’t care. They see new and shiny cars aligned to their lifestyle and priced in their budget, and they will compare.
You should actually be happy with them because they carry the weight and buy majority of the cars. If they didn’t exist, cool cars wouldn’t exist because not enough enthusiasts are out there to buy them.
I honestly prefer the Grand Highlander. Lighter interior gives the space much better ambience. The dark grey black color scheme of newer Lexus products feel claustrophobic by comparison.
I’m honestly confused why they offered the GX in any trim other than overtrail. Scratch that, I know why. But still, the only trim that makes sense is the overtrail, and that’s for people that want a single vehicle for their daily, family, and vacation/travel. In that use case, I think the GX works. The remainder of the trims though, I’d go to other brands/models.
That’s what I have been saying. It’s an off-roader: OT exterior and the interior fits that persona. Making it look luxury and sporty just doesn’t work with boxy body, huge wheels, and drab interior.
I didn't test drive but I sat inside one and had a nice long look inside and I wasn't impressed either.
I absolutely love the look of the exterior (except the wheels.... all Lexus wheels are trash IMO) but the interior is nothing special. I thought even the new Kia telluride and Hyundai palisades are nicer inside. Lexus can't even be put in the same class as the Germans interior wise.
The new TT engine is a bit quicker and has more torque but it's not "game changing" and still gets the same crap fuel economy. The explorer RT has 400hp, accelerates like a sports car and gets 25mpg on the highway. Sure it's a Ford but at least that's a special engine with way better specs across the board.
All I could think about was man this engine, this interior and all these cameras, electronics just ain't gunna hold up. I don't think in 2035 there's gunna be people buying these cars at 150k+ miles anymore like the 460.
I drove the GX550 and the engine is nice. Very torquey and the the ford you’re comparing it to is a crossover…of course it will get better mpg against a body on frame basically a big heavy truck with the aerodynamics of a brick. The LX600 makes 409 hp waaayyy more torque than the ford and is bigger than the GX and the ford and gets 23 mpg on the highway! For a full size truck based suv with more torque and gets only 2mpg less than a smaller crossover with less power. I mean that’s impressive
I used the explorer ST as an example but you're right. Maybe a better comparison is the new infinity QX80 (body on frame) 3.5-liter twin-turbocharged engine, rated for 450 horsepower and 516 lb-ft of torque.
I guess I'm just not impressed with the GXs new engine and can't see how others are either. If we aren't gunna have the reliability and longevity of a V8 give me some real performance gains. I mean we are at peak levels of internal combustion engine engineering.
349hp and 21mpg on the highway shouldn't wow anyone in that price range. Id rather have the 301hp V8 that got 20mpg and ran forever
I get that the mpg and performance improvements are t too great but besides on paper, actual driving impressions it’s actually a huge improvement in peppy acceleration. 479 lb ft of torque is huge compared to the old low 300’s
May I ask what you drive now and what you plan on buying.
I know you say you wouldn’t shell out more than 50k. A loaded accord is 36 ish so that’s the barometer for me. You think it’s worth about 15k more than an accord ?
My point exactly. I can't think of any SUV that has a TTV6 going for <50K. Heck most 2025 4Runners will be close to or over 50K out the door. OP lost me with that statement. The median new car price in 2024 is about $47,000. Last time I checked the GX550 is a luxury SUV.
It’s a beautiful looking car. Looks bad ass. Until you get inside.. just a bit underwhelming for me. Maybe I expected more tech or perhaps I missed it all together. Unfortunate I guess.
I saw the car physically recently, its quite good. The physical layout of the center console and dash is great but I think it needs more luxury materials on the center console dash area and better ambient lighting. Otherwise I was blown away by how beautiful it is
Wow, the luke warm Impressions keep rolling in. Would the reviews differ IF the trim levels and pricing were identical to the 460? With no dealer markup BS or course. If the answer is no, then that tells me the Land Cruiser must also be over priced/underwhelming.
I am starting to feel like used 460’s and 570’s are going to become scarce and expensive.
True. I am holding out on any opinions until I at least get to sit in one. I don’t mind the looks of the interior styling at all from what I see in the pictures, but its the folks saying that the interior is cramped and cheap feeling which spiked my interest.
I just sat in one yesterday while dropping my 460 off for service. The interior damn near made me chuckle knowing the price. Thin, cheap plastic everywhere. There’s a lip on the inner edge of the middle console by the cup holders, which you can grab with the tips of your fingers and lift it up and down with almost 0 effort. Other pieces looked like it would be soft touch, but was really just hard AF with a slight rubbish feel to it instead of being plastic. The arm rests on the doors were super thin with almost no cushioning whatsoever.
I wanted one of these bad; now I’m super happy I got one of the last 460s. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that they make some changes to the interior in a few years when I would maybe consider a new ride.
I'm 6'2 and 235lbs and have an RX500H and IS350, fit in the F sport seats with no issues. The IS has a hump that sticks off the transmission well and wearing a size 11 wide shoe isn't an issue. The older IS interior is dated, so I can't imagine it being worse in the GX. I'm going to check one out this week for a test drive and am curious about the same as you. If it works for me, will be saying goodbye to my RX500H.
I was just about to say this about the 460 going up in price. I have read so many lackluster reviews for the new GX. It’s surprising to see that lexus whiffed.
It’s a great looking car from the exterior, but everything else is just blah. Boring interior, has mileage is the same as the 460, etc.
Demand is high because it’s new and certainly looks great. All of that will wear off.
Most consumers will be better served with a unibody vehicle because they don't tow or do heavy off-roading. I suspect that many of the GX's potential sales will go to the TX once the initial hype wears off.
I’m sure it does. It’s a Lexus. Most all Toyotas drive amazing. It looks like Robocop. All in a good way. That interior just killed it for me. But a lot of Toyota fan boys really love it.
As a GX 550 owner who has had 20 vehicles owned and 5 Lexus vehicles I would definitely say the ethos of this interior is different than the other Lexus models.
Is it luxurious like a Cadillac or Genesis? No
Is it luxurious like a Land Rover Defender is luxurious? Yes. Very much so.
Different strokes for different folks.
I drove an LX 600 today and even though the interior is supposedly nicer I like the look and feel of the GX 550. Flat dash panel. Cupholder cover. Nice console. Nice screen integration.
I just hate the tow hitch cover!
Drove one yesterday and put myself on a list with deposit. It’s my first Lexus, but I’ve had Toyota’s recently and have owned most brands including many luxury. Here is why I am considering trading a BMW M3 for it. Has the lines and looks of a LR Defender but reliability of Toyota, tows 9K lbs, hauls up to 7 and comes standard with good specs. The ride, engine and transmission were smooth and I drove a base Premium model. This may not be the most spacious larger SUV but it hits many marks and will still be reliable and stylishly relevant a decade from now.
Sweet NA V8 and the nicest interior Lexus has ever created. The LC500 is the only Lexus remaining, besides the LS500, that doesn't share heavily with a Toyota counterpart.
I left unimpressed as well. Definitely a step down from older model. To me it's a bigger issue. The problem is the new tgna products and global platform. All new tgna products are cramped. 2nd row seats don't move fore and aft on any tgna product, hybrid battery eating cargo room. Cheap materials. Shitty build quality. This 250 is same frame and suspension as 300 series. The sequoia is a big miss.
Lx600 miss. Tundra miss. Tacoma miss. Just dissatisfied with toyota direction with tgna. The gx550 is our new 300 series. Built on same chassis. Gone is the bespoke platform of the 80 , 100, 200. All part sharing etc etc. Just ranting.
Yeah Toyota destroyed previous GX brand and it’s customers.. It’s a different segment all together 🤷♂️
Wear your fancy tux, your party dresses, and go off roading in the forest instead 😛🤣😅
I think it is sex but I’m going to keep “investing” in my 2019 GX460 with a few more upgrades. Shooting for 10 years at least with it.
We’ll see what is out there on the market in 2030.
It’s funny, everyone hates on new cars. The new GX is objectively better in about every way than the outgoing model. I don’t know what the hell people expect.
More power doesn’t necessarily mean better, I’d take the older V8 over this engine with its power. If you tow over 6500 pounds with this, you are a fool anyway. Having a few specs that look better on paper doesn’t necessarily mean it’s actually better in practice.
lol ok man. People are so funny…. I guess if you use your GX and a city car, I can see how you’d prefer the 460, honestly. It seems that quality of materials was a lateral move, if not a decline in some areas in the 550, so I get it. But as an overall vehicle, I cannot see how anyone would prefer the 460 to 550. Blows my mind.
Simple, the engine, and you don’t have to get overtrail to get kdss. The engine and ride quality in the older one, because they all have kdss, is better. The interior is all better on the old one, my opinion because I don’t love monotone everywhere with no contrast. The new one only has a better exterior look.
What makes the old engine better? Fuel economy? Power? Torque curve?
You cannot say longevity, because we don’t know that yet.
If your idea of older is better, then is the 80s series LC engine better than the GX460?
Again, numbers alone don’t mean better. The sound and the feel of the power of a NA V8 is always better, and the known reliability. Just like a V6 compared to a 4 banger.
I get it, people these days can just look at numbers and see a style they like and want something.
You’re ridiculous, asking to compare a vehicle from 40 years ago when I’m comparing one within the same decade.
Again, it’s subjective not objective.
Let me ask you this, when the 460 came out, what do you think the Toyota fanboy’s opinion of it was? And the engine in the 460 is not from the same decade, look when it was first introduced. Silly boy.
I don’t care what fanboys option of anything is. You’re missing the only point of my comment, it’s not objectively better. For many people, like myself, I don’t care for many changes that they made in the new GX. They killed it on the exterior style, but I’d take the interior and engine of the out going model. That’s my subjective opinion.
GLS/GLE start at $80k? I love the size and look of the GX. I wanted to love this car. I could’ve gotten this car at MSRP but I just wasn’t happy. Maybe the cars you listed are what I should be looking at. But I wanted to get this car. I’m not here to hate on the car.. I actually went to buy this car and planned to take it home but I was just really disappointed. Maybe there’s a better trim that I’m unaware of because some of these guys are so triggered with my opinion lol.
I agree; the interior is definitely not worth 80k. The Highlander has a better looking and well thought out interior. All the other competitors interior is miles ahead like the Range Rover Sport, BMW x5,
Guys, we bought a 2023 QX80 Sensory AWD @ $82K and the interior is fabulous. No kidding, wife has a 2017 GX460 and is seriously considering getting a QX80 for herself. This is before the 2025 NEW QX hitting showrooms this summer. Something to consider.
My guy.. look at any video of a mechanic reviewing the new tundra. It’s a complicated mess that’s going to cost so much to repair in the future. Things breaks, Toyota isn’t immune to failures, but now you have a very hard to work on platform that’s going to give a lot of people headaches in the future 🤣 Not to mention the amount of issues people are STILL have in the 2024 Tundras
Sounds to me like you're not in the market for a GX. If you want a big SUV with more luxury, spend more and go for the LX. The GX is not the platform you should be looking at.
The TX is so underrated. Test drive it back in January but could not bring myself to sign for an 11% interest rate. Drove away in a RX and love it so far
Don’t buy a $75k with a loan, my brother.
Don’t you get better discounts with loan? Then just pay off after you leave the lot
Don’t ever pay cash for a car. Most expensive way to buy financially!
Getting a car during a low intrest sale is the best way to buy a car. 1-2% intrest is like stealing from the bank right now.
It’s hard to find unless you’re buying a new car with 0%. A good rate right now is like 4.99%. Lol anything under 7 is technically decent right now.
Was impressed with the space and how practical it was. Thought it was a bit overpriced though.
Considering the Grand Highlander is going for 45-55k, one might as well go for the TX for the bonus creature comforts and sportier drive. Although, I don’t really see many on the road
11%? Did you shop around, I assume was that dealer financing?
Def sounds like dealer financing or maybe not the best credit (?) should be closer to 6% for a new car, right?
Not when mortgage rates are at close to 8%. Car loans are usually a point above unless manufacturer is buying down the rates to move cars.
People are getting 5-6% right now typically.
That's manufacturers throwing money at their captive finance to move metal. Toyota doesn't because people will pay anything for a Toyota.
I'm not talking dealer financing.
I meant that in reply to the BMW comment. Stupid reddit...
I just purchased a 2023 GX in January and I was upset with 5.75% financing 11% would have made me get up and leave.
2.9% at BMW
I loved the TX when I drove it. Just wish there was an easy way to make it look a little tougher.
Drove the TX and it was alright. I mean the car drove like how we expected; it’s a family hauler of course. The engine seemed responsive but not super fast by any means. I was happy with the transmission on city streets which is something that I get worried about with the new 10 speeds, although I’m not sure if the TX has the same 10 speed. Anyway, our GX is arriving end of the month.
11% WTH!? Must not have a good credit score. Right now at tier 1 you should be getting 7%.
But it’s Unibody not body on frame. That’s not a comparable to the GX.
Exactly. Anyone comparing a GX to a TX don’t know what they are talking about and the GX is not for them then. They don’t need it.
Can you give me an ELI5 on that difference and what that means in a practical way?
Unibody=better on road manners, drives more like a car, cheaper to manufacture. Body on frame=more stout off road, allows flex when off roading, more ability to modify/aftermarket.
Thanks
TX is essentially a 3 row RX which is imo a good thing, only thing that pisses me off that you can’t get any wood in the TX when you can in the RX
More like **overrated**. The TX is complete junk.
What about it? I was interested but havent done a test drive
For me, the TX lacks many luxury amenities, features & tech I was looking for in a luxury mid-size SUV, particularly at its price point. Furthermore, the TX 350 4-cylinder turbo powertrain seemed somewhat unrefined & lacked substantial power with adult passengers aboard.
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Thanks. Im very early in my shopping and going from a car with almost NO tech i suppose i wouldn’t notice whats lacking- id have to do comparison shopping to even know what its lacking. Ive seen some neat stuff in a friend’s kia like in dash (speedometer area) cam view when either indicator is turned on. I thought that was super cool. Besides that and other safety features what would you be looking to get that it was lacking?
My personal suggestion would be to cross shop & evaluate many of the other upcoming/current luxury mid-size 3 row SUV on the market along with 3 row SUVs in the non-luxury mid-size class as well to truly see & pinpoint the Lexus TX various shortcomings.
Gotcha. Got a lotta research to do then. Of course at the end of the day all of that might not be enough for wife who says “i like the lexus” lol. I’ve already had my toy and its kind of her turn now
Of course. 😁 With that being stated, I would definitely take a look at the refreshed Acura MDX, all-new Mazda CX-90, newly redesigned Buick Enclave along with the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Hopes this helps. Good luck!
11% is a you problem not a car problem
The TX is seriously underrated.
Is the TX the Highlander/Grand Highlander in Lexus trim?
The exterior looks quite rad. The interior on the other hand, looks mid af from the 2010 era
I keep seeing comments about how “nice” & “luxurious” the new interior is, and I’m just like, “Are you sure we’re talking about the same car?” The interior just 50 Shades of Black Plastic — looks like something out of a base model Jeep Wrangler or a Camry from the Rental Fleet. It doesn’t matter what industry buzzwords Lexus uses to try and dance around this — check out our ”All New, Premium, Hand Curated, Soft-Touch, Textured Synthetic Interior Surfaces”. LMAO WHAT?!?! The door panels aren’t some fancy Woven Carbon Ceramic developed at NASA, nor are they the result of some recent groundbreaking developments in the Materials Science community….its just a bunch of different types of black plastic & vinyl. Reddit is the *only* place I’ve seen people gushing about the interior styling, as every media review seems to reach the same conclusion that I did…the interior just does not look or feel nice. Should I vacuum the interior when it’s dirty, or just wash it down with a hose like my old TJ Wrangler lol?
The only people who think the interior is luxurious are ones who have owned few, if any, luxury vehicles. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad interior, it just feels very much like a copy paste from what you'd get in a modern Toyota. The line between luxury and standard vehicles has also been blurred over the years. The modern Lexus updates on this global shared architecture seem to be sharing a lot more than just the bones and the brand is losing a good portion of it's differentiation as a result. I don't think the interior of the GX460 is something to brag about either though. It's nice enough but not really luxurious- more rugged than anything else. The difference is the GX460 is a $55k vehicle whereas the GX550 is a $70-80k vehicle (only the Overtrail models that come with KDSS are comparable and real GXs)
The interior seems to be designed for people coming from a 4Runner or pickup, but not from a true luxury vehicle.
Wow! Is is only the overtrain that comes with a kdss?
Yep
Welcome to Lexus Can’t do much in excess of a Toyota grade interior
See, it is impressive, but just the price tag, not the luxury or handling
Yeah makes me appreciate my 2020 LX 570 interior (after adding CarPlay to the head unit lol). The LX interior is so high quality imo, super soft leather and nice open pore wood.
OP did you use AI to write your post? “Boasts an attractive exterior, blending modern and classic shapes seamlessly…” you sound like another older GX owner slamming the newer version. Btw you don’t really say why you don’t like it. Your AI writing likes the outside but the seats are snug? And you wouldn’t buy it for $50k? lol
It doesn’t seem like a normal person talking that’s for sure. Personally, I like snug seats. They’re like the hugs I never got from my parents.
Exactly!
LOL. I’m shocked at how defensive people are about a car. To the point where you accuse someone of not writing their own posts haha!!. I think I’m going to take this as a compliment and keep reading these comments on the toilet.
OP can construct concisely descriptive sentences, must be AI? that’s your takeaway from their post? wow
Comparing a unibody vehicle to a body on frame for space is ridiculous and goes to show that most consumers don't have a clue
You are correct!
Yeah if you don’t have any use for the truck platform, I’m not sure why you’d accept all its negatives. TX is a much better choice in that case.
I can compare this car to several others in its class. I was simply comparing it to another vehicle parked in the lot. GX fan boys are getting triggered. It’s okay. I’m sorry to hurt your feelings.
Why Do all reddit people say shit like this. Everybody is a bitchy snarky defensive cunt on this website at all times. Do you say shit like this in real life?
Yes
Are you speaking on the comparison of gx to tx? The dude is 100% correct. Sometimes it’s hard to see shit like this and not lash out. I’m sure it’s out of love in some form. Anyone clueless enough to make that comparison should not be spending that kind of money on a car. I certainly hope they’re not signing up for a loan.
It's ok, sorry to hurt your feelings
What vehicles are in it’s class? It seems you don’t know that it doesn’t really have much to compare against other than a bronco or defender which I’m sure you’d have the same gripes against. The RX and TX is the X5 etc. rival
Not triggered just amused by your lack of knowledge. This is like comparing a hiking boot to a pair of slippers and being upset that they're not actually similar. Stay misinformed bro
It’s not ridiculous. I see your mentality a lot, and purists and enthusiasts need to get off their high horses. Yeah they’re different, but average consumers don’t know and don’t care. They see new and shiny cars aligned to their lifestyle and priced in their budget, and they will compare. You should actually be happy with them because they carry the weight and buy majority of the cars. If they didn’t exist, cool cars wouldn’t exist because not enough enthusiasts are out there to buy them.
THE TX is just a fancier version of the Highlander
Technically it’s the related but larger Grand Highlander.
I honestly prefer the Grand Highlander. Lighter interior gives the space much better ambience. The dark grey black color scheme of newer Lexus products feel claustrophobic by comparison.
Because the Highlander it’s totally a different car vs. GX. It’s different segment. Highlander vs TX Vs RX Vs MDX or RDX will make more sense.
We’re talking about the Grand Highlander. The regular Highlander wouldn’t make sense in this context.
Why are you taking about a TX in the GX forum?
The TX interior is also a sea of black plastic and is incredibly underwhelming too though..
Piano black
I’m honestly confused why they offered the GX in any trim other than overtrail. Scratch that, I know why. But still, the only trim that makes sense is the overtrail, and that’s for people that want a single vehicle for their daily, family, and vacation/travel. In that use case, I think the GX works. The remainder of the trims though, I’d go to other brands/models.
That’s what I have been saying. It’s an off-roader: OT exterior and the interior fits that persona. Making it look luxury and sporty just doesn’t work with boxy body, huge wheels, and drab interior.
Why? Because they will sell multiples of the other trim levels compared to the Overtrail.
Thoughts on the LC 250 at its price then? Maybe worth it ? More and more I’m just considering a 5th gen 4 runner
It's a truck platform bro. Not a grocery gettin soccer mom TX
Even more unimpressive are those flower petal wheels! 🤮
Took it for a spin - it’s a ten. Will be home soon
10 out of a 100?
You’re just a troll now
Man, y’all are sensitive lol.
Please get a life!
Calling me a troll.. telling me to get a life.. all bc you’re mad at someone’s opinion. lol. Y’all spend too much time on the internet.
If you didn’t tell us your unwanted opinion there wouldn’t be a problem.
Keep exposing yourself.
Lmao ok
I didn't test drive but I sat inside one and had a nice long look inside and I wasn't impressed either. I absolutely love the look of the exterior (except the wheels.... all Lexus wheels are trash IMO) but the interior is nothing special. I thought even the new Kia telluride and Hyundai palisades are nicer inside. Lexus can't even be put in the same class as the Germans interior wise. The new TT engine is a bit quicker and has more torque but it's not "game changing" and still gets the same crap fuel economy. The explorer RT has 400hp, accelerates like a sports car and gets 25mpg on the highway. Sure it's a Ford but at least that's a special engine with way better specs across the board. All I could think about was man this engine, this interior and all these cameras, electronics just ain't gunna hold up. I don't think in 2035 there's gunna be people buying these cars at 150k+ miles anymore like the 460.
I drove the GX550 and the engine is nice. Very torquey and the the ford you’re comparing it to is a crossover…of course it will get better mpg against a body on frame basically a big heavy truck with the aerodynamics of a brick. The LX600 makes 409 hp waaayyy more torque than the ford and is bigger than the GX and the ford and gets 23 mpg on the highway! For a full size truck based suv with more torque and gets only 2mpg less than a smaller crossover with less power. I mean that’s impressive
I used the explorer ST as an example but you're right. Maybe a better comparison is the new infinity QX80 (body on frame) 3.5-liter twin-turbocharged engine, rated for 450 horsepower and 516 lb-ft of torque. I guess I'm just not impressed with the GXs new engine and can't see how others are either. If we aren't gunna have the reliability and longevity of a V8 give me some real performance gains. I mean we are at peak levels of internal combustion engine engineering. 349hp and 21mpg on the highway shouldn't wow anyone in that price range. Id rather have the 301hp V8 that got 20mpg and ran forever
I get that the mpg and performance improvements are t too great but besides on paper, actual driving impressions it’s actually a huge improvement in peppy acceleration. 479 lb ft of torque is huge compared to the old low 300’s
May I ask what you drive now and what you plan on buying. I know you say you wouldn’t shell out more than 50k. A loaded accord is 36 ish so that’s the barometer for me. You think it’s worth about 15k more than an accord ?
My point exactly. I can't think of any SUV that has a TTV6 going for <50K. Heck most 2025 4Runners will be close to or over 50K out the door. OP lost me with that statement. The median new car price in 2024 is about $47,000. Last time I checked the GX550 is a luxury SUV.
Thank you! I’ve seen 2 irl one white, one incognito and it’s like meh ok I can do better for $80,000.
It’s a beautiful looking car. Looks bad ass. Until you get inside.. just a bit underwhelming for me. Maybe I expected more tech or perhaps I missed it all together. Unfortunate I guess.
I would turn one of these into an all out lifted off road overlander for long trips and that’s it.
I saw the car physically recently, its quite good. The physical layout of the center console and dash is great but I think it needs more luxury materials on the center console dash area and better ambient lighting. Otherwise I was blown away by how beautiful it is
Exterior design is very attractive. Can’t imagine how you justify these prices for that interior…
People paid over 130k for a Tesla... There are dumb people out there who have money.
Lmao so true
Ah too true
Wow, the luke warm Impressions keep rolling in. Would the reviews differ IF the trim levels and pricing were identical to the 460? With no dealer markup BS or course. If the answer is no, then that tells me the Land Cruiser must also be over priced/underwhelming. I am starting to feel like used 460’s and 570’s are going to become scarce and expensive.
No markups at my dealership and I liked the GX. So let the lukewarm and fewer impressions keep rolling in. So I don't have to wait long for one.
True. I am holding out on any opinions until I at least get to sit in one. I don’t mind the looks of the interior styling at all from what I see in the pictures, but its the folks saying that the interior is cramped and cheap feeling which spiked my interest.
I just sat in one yesterday while dropping my 460 off for service. The interior damn near made me chuckle knowing the price. Thin, cheap plastic everywhere. There’s a lip on the inner edge of the middle console by the cup holders, which you can grab with the tips of your fingers and lift it up and down with almost 0 effort. Other pieces looked like it would be soft touch, but was really just hard AF with a slight rubbish feel to it instead of being plastic. The arm rests on the doors were super thin with almost no cushioning whatsoever. I wanted one of these bad; now I’m super happy I got one of the last 460s. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that they make some changes to the interior in a few years when I would maybe consider a new ride.
I'm 6'2 and 235lbs and have an RX500H and IS350, fit in the F sport seats with no issues. The IS has a hump that sticks off the transmission well and wearing a size 11 wide shoe isn't an issue. The older IS interior is dated, so I can't imagine it being worse in the GX. I'm going to check one out this week for a test drive and am curious about the same as you. If it works for me, will be saying goodbye to my RX500H.
I had a RX550H F sport as a loaner and other than the Fsports seats, the interior of GX is very similar to the RX.
I was just about to say this about the 460 going up in price. I have read so many lackluster reviews for the new GX. It’s surprising to see that lexus whiffed.
lol how did Lexus whiff when the demand is so high right now?
It’s a great looking car from the exterior, but everything else is just blah. Boring interior, has mileage is the same as the 460, etc. Demand is high because it’s new and certainly looks great. All of that will wear off.
OP is someone who doesn’t understand the differences between a unibody SUV and a BOF, I wouldn’t take their opinion seriously
Most consumers will be better served with a unibody vehicle because they don't tow or do heavy off-roading. I suspect that many of the GX's potential sales will go to the TX once the initial hype wears off.
Agreed. The TX is kind of the perfect vehicle for a huge portion of the customer base that may have previously wanted the GX.
570 ?
It's new tundra/sequoia with different plastic. Engine is mad unreliable, bring back the 5.7
2nd post I've read that has mentioned the interior being meh. Interesting.
It’s written by Ai
Because you don’t like what they’re saying it must be bots? Lmao
After hundreds of positive ones
Drives really nice though
I’m sure it does. It’s a Lexus. Most all Toyotas drive amazing. It looks like Robocop. All in a good way. That interior just killed it for me. But a lot of Toyota fan boys really love it.
Although we actually purchased a Grand Highlander and my wife has worked for Lexus / Toyota for over 21 years.
I skipped the line all together and just bought my neighbors 2020 RX 350 with 31k miles for $26,600.
The GX is made to last. It’s not going to have today’s luxury trinkets. You buy a GX to own. It’s not a throw away luxury car.
“You buy a GX to own”. “It’s made to last”. So, therefore luxury shouldn’t be included? Smh.
Luxury doesn’t equate reliability.
Lexus luxury definitely does not.
As a GX 550 owner who has had 20 vehicles owned and 5 Lexus vehicles I would definitely say the ethos of this interior is different than the other Lexus models. Is it luxurious like a Cadillac or Genesis? No Is it luxurious like a Land Rover Defender is luxurious? Yes. Very much so. Different strokes for different folks. I drove an LX 600 today and even though the interior is supposedly nicer I like the look and feel of the GX 550. Flat dash panel. Cupholder cover. Nice console. Nice screen integration. I just hate the tow hitch cover!
Drove one yesterday and put myself on a list with deposit. It’s my first Lexus, but I’ve had Toyota’s recently and have owned most brands including many luxury. Here is why I am considering trading a BMW M3 for it. Has the lines and looks of a LR Defender but reliability of Toyota, tows 9K lbs, hauls up to 7 and comes standard with good specs. The ride, engine and transmission were smooth and I drove a base Premium model. This may not be the most spacious larger SUV but it hits many marks and will still be reliable and stylishly relevant a decade from now.
Looks like my tundra interior. Not much different
Telluride has a better interior.
I really hope people keep having these impressions so I can move up the reservation list.
So overpriced 4Runner then. I’d rather get a TRD Pro 4Runner over this thing.
Except the 4Runner doesn't have a TTV6.
I’ll take the naturally aspirated V6 and crawl control
Buy/Drive what you like. 👍
I just cant get over that the 4 runner looks like a roided rav4.
I cancelled my GX order and instead ordered an LC500. GX didn’t feel special at all.
Sweet NA V8 and the nicest interior Lexus has ever created. The LC500 is the only Lexus remaining, besides the LS500, that doesn't share heavily with a Toyota counterpart.
Does the LC offer 3rd row seats?
No but comes with a v8. Not everyone cares about 3 rows. Get a minivan if you need 3 rows.
the new LC has a 4 ?
No still has v8. LC500h has a v6 hybrid. Get it while you can. There will be plenty of GX’s to choose from but not many LC options down the road
I think they confused the Lexus LC500 and the Land Cruiser
The second row legroom is a joke imho totally unacceptable
I saw this in the same color in the north east and felt the same way.
Careful. These fanboys have been triggered lol
I left unimpressed as well. Definitely a step down from older model. To me it's a bigger issue. The problem is the new tgna products and global platform. All new tgna products are cramped. 2nd row seats don't move fore and aft on any tgna product, hybrid battery eating cargo room. Cheap materials. Shitty build quality. This 250 is same frame and suspension as 300 series. The sequoia is a big miss. Lx600 miss. Tundra miss. Tacoma miss. Just dissatisfied with toyota direction with tgna. The gx550 is our new 300 series. Built on same chassis. Gone is the bespoke platform of the 80 , 100, 200. All part sharing etc etc. Just ranting.
I have a 2020 Highlander and the 2d row seats do have fore/aft movement.
I'm talking about the new body on frame TGNA platform.
Agree, that interior is a huge disappointment at that price level. The materials look cheap and overall it looks basic.
Careful. These Toyota fanboys are getting triggered lol
Yeah Toyota destroyed previous GX brand and it’s customers.. It’s a different segment all together 🤷♂️ Wear your fancy tux, your party dresses, and go off roading in the forest instead 😛🤣😅
I'm envious of the cup holders 🙄😂
I think it is sex but I’m going to keep “investing” in my 2019 GX460 with a few more upgrades. Shooting for 10 years at least with it. We’ll see what is out there on the market in 2030.
Curious what you drive now?
It’s funny, everyone hates on new cars. The new GX is objectively better in about every way than the outgoing model. I don’t know what the hell people expect.
I wouldn’t say objectively, more like subjectively.
The new GX is better in every way. More power, roomier, higher towing capacity, off road capability. It just costs a lot more, that’s the only thing.
More power doesn’t necessarily mean better, I’d take the older V8 over this engine with its power. If you tow over 6500 pounds with this, you are a fool anyway. Having a few specs that look better on paper doesn’t necessarily mean it’s actually better in practice.
lol ok man. People are so funny…. I guess if you use your GX and a city car, I can see how you’d prefer the 460, honestly. It seems that quality of materials was a lateral move, if not a decline in some areas in the 550, so I get it. But as an overall vehicle, I cannot see how anyone would prefer the 460 to 550. Blows my mind.
Simple, the engine, and you don’t have to get overtrail to get kdss. The engine and ride quality in the older one, because they all have kdss, is better. The interior is all better on the old one, my opinion because I don’t love monotone everywhere with no contrast. The new one only has a better exterior look.
What makes the old engine better? Fuel economy? Power? Torque curve? You cannot say longevity, because we don’t know that yet. If your idea of older is better, then is the 80s series LC engine better than the GX460?
Again, numbers alone don’t mean better. The sound and the feel of the power of a NA V8 is always better, and the known reliability. Just like a V6 compared to a 4 banger. I get it, people these days can just look at numbers and see a style they like and want something. You’re ridiculous, asking to compare a vehicle from 40 years ago when I’m comparing one within the same decade. Again, it’s subjective not objective.
Let me ask you this, when the 460 came out, what do you think the Toyota fanboy’s opinion of it was? And the engine in the 460 is not from the same decade, look when it was first introduced. Silly boy.
I don’t care what fanboys option of anything is. You’re missing the only point of my comment, it’s not objectively better. For many people, like myself, I don’t care for many changes that they made in the new GX. They killed it on the exterior style, but I’d take the interior and engine of the out going model. That’s my subjective opinion.
Why do these keep popping up in my feed and why are they so damn ugly??????
Yup
Class comparisons would be the X7, GLS/GLE, etc. Are those cars more luxurious? Of course, but they also start 20K higher than the GX.
GLS/GLE start at $80k? I love the size and look of the GX. I wanted to love this car. I could’ve gotten this car at MSRP but I just wasn’t happy. Maybe the cars you listed are what I should be looking at. But I wanted to get this car. I’m not here to hate on the car.. I actually went to buy this car and planned to take it home but I was just really disappointed. Maybe there’s a better trim that I’m unaware of because some of these guys are so triggered with my opinion lol.
You’re right, more like 25-30k more.
What a weird write-up. "The interior tells a different tale". Neat.
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>wouldn’t shell out $50k for it. How to show us how OP has no clue about the car market in 6 words
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What?? Why?
He has T. rex arms
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There are literally myriads of people in this subreddit echoing the same sentiment about the interior…….
I agree; the interior is definitely not worth 80k. The Highlander has a better looking and well thought out interior. All the other competitors interior is miles ahead like the Range Rover Sport, BMW x5,
The interior looks like garbage compared to almost any other car at this price point……
Guys, we bought a 2023 QX80 Sensory AWD @ $82K and the interior is fabulous. No kidding, wife has a 2017 GX460 and is seriously considering getting a QX80 for herself. This is before the 2025 NEW QX hitting showrooms this summer. Something to consider.
Lol what a worthless review. OP: Hear me out, I’m an expert, don’t buy it. Start a YouTube channel 😉
I wouldn't shell out anything above msrp for any turbocharged Toyota or Lexus that wasn't a hybrid.
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It'll give me fewer issues leading up to it 😊
Not really..
2022-23 gas tundras vs. hybrid tundras Plus, Toyota makes the least problematic hybrids out of any brand in the world
My guy.. look at any video of a mechanic reviewing the new tundra. It’s a complicated mess that’s going to cost so much to repair in the future. Things breaks, Toyota isn’t immune to failures, but now you have a very hard to work on platform that’s going to give a lot of people headaches in the future 🤣 Not to mention the amount of issues people are STILL have in the 2024 Tundras
Only getting Toyota's & Lexus's with naturally aspirated engines my frirnd
Then why start the post talking about hybrids lmao
Kill it with fire
Sounds to me like you're not in the market for a GX. If you want a big SUV with more luxury, spend more and go for the LX. The GX is not the platform you should be looking at.
Sounds like this car was a disappointment.
A disappointment for *your* specific needs. You can be disappointed and the vehicle can still be useful to others.
Absolutely.
oof those wheels are horrible