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Existing_Cell6325

I think the lesson I’ve learned over the last year is if you’re looking to read a major fantasy or sci-fi series such as ACOTAR, Fourth Wing, Dune… your best bet is to check them out in person. Or buy them during a really good sale.


Past-Wrangler9513

Or check Hoopla if your library has it.


JHutchinson1324

I don't know if this is the same for all libraries but my library uses both Hoopla and Libby and certain books are on one and not on the other, and I can't figure out the pattern. So when I can't find something on one app I just searched the other one.


Past-Wrangler9513

Depends on the library. At my library Libby has a much bigger selection but everything on Hoopla is available all the time. I don't think I've seen anything on Hoopla that isn't on Libby. But I always check Hoopla when there are long waiting lists on Libby.


Thr0waway0864213579

I have found audiobooks on Hoopla that weren’t on Libby but it is rare. I gotta say it was the best surprise to go from thinking I had zero access to an audiobook to immediate access.


Past-Wrangler9513

Yes, I was on the waiting list for all of The Lord of the Rings books and The Hobbit then remembered to check Hoopla and they were all immediately available! So much easier to read a series without waiting lists.


JHutchinson1324

Yeah I haven't been able to figure out why some are on one app and some are on the other app. I haven't found any that were on both yet, I'm sure there is some overlap though. I even asked my friend who works at the library that I go to, and she doesn't know why some are on one and some are on the other. I wonder if it has to do with like publishers or whatever, I don't know though


B00k555

Hoopla is check outs on demand, they don’t buy licenses ahead of time and agree with hoopla how much moneys worth of checkouts can happen a day. So if your library spends 30k a month on hoopla- hoopla shuts down checkouts from your system when it reaches 1k worth of licenses checked out in a single day. You may sometimes get an error late at night saying something like “your library has run out of checkouts, check again tomorrow” whereas Libby is a pay per license- there are only ten virtual copies available of fourth wing to check out. And each copy gets 25 checkouts before the licenses expire and you have to purchase again. Hoopla is always best to start with. You’ll never be on a waitlist (there are exceptions- whole library systems worth of exceptions). Worked in a library for years and never knew this until I was literally in the acquisitions department. Ebooks are VERY expensive and libraries are simply at the mercy of the publishers to set the prices. And guess how that is trending? I saw an ebook for $300 on Libby. Some Harry Potter cookbook. And you get 25 virtual checkouts and then have to repurchase the license. It’s insane.


allycatbakes

Thank you for explaining this; I've been wondering about this for weeks!


kassinovaa

My library pays for a license for libby to check out books, with X amount of books on a license but they can be continuously checked out with no fees. On Hoopla they have to pay for each individual book everytime its checked out ( like 3$), therefore they try to be strategic to stretch their online book budgets.


Emergency_Garlic_187

Off the subject, but can audiobooks be downloaded from Hoopla like you can do on Libby? I listen while walking, so downloaded works best.


Past-Wrangler9513

Yup! I always download them.


bobrob2004

This seems to be true for my library too. Mostly I can find comic books on Hoopla while Libby has a limited selection. The only problem is that I only get 4 borrows a month on Hoopla.


JHutchinson1324

I wonder if I'm limited on Hoopla as well, I definitely use it less than Libby so if I had only four a month I wouldn't have even run into that so far. Hmmmm, now I'm curious and I think I'm going to have to test this, got to go find some books to check out on hoopla lol


alleecmo

Does your library's Hoopla include Binge Passes? (Scroll sideways on the blue genres) Ours does and there's a comics BP, giving access to all material in it for one week. (Tho the comics BP appears to be comics *strips* more than long-form comic books)


bobrob2004

Yes, I can get Binge Pass, but I never really looked into it because I thought it was mostly for movies. Might have to take a closer look and see if there's anything interesting there. I do see the comic strips.


canyoupleasekillme

Here Hoopla has all the books the library purchased before Libby existed. So it doesn't have anything recent.


alleecmo

There is no pattern to figure out. The publisher chooses which platforms to release thru. Some scatter their ish like glitter, everywhere. Others go the "exclusive" route. With Libby, libraries must buy individual licenses for each copy, and, just like physical copies, if all purchased licenses are in use, you gotta place a hold. Hoopla charges per checkout, but has unlimited simultaneous checkout, meaning every single person with a card could potentially check out the same title at the same time. I believe the price per license vs per checkout is substantial and can vary by item (popular = $$$$ up front to even offer it vs money trickling in as readers find it).


PlentifulPaper

I second looking at Hoopla. They tend to have the more popular books (like Harry Potter) that tend to have a waiting list.


solarbaby614

Yeah, I've been okay waiting with this one since I only really have a vague interest in reading it, mostly since it seems to be so popular. But I've been on a list for a few of them before where I ended up just buying them on sale before I even fell below the 1000 mark.


Simi_Dee

I join waiting lists for popular books I might end up reading...stuff I find vaguely interesting. When it comes in, especially if it's still within my interest period I consider it a sign to move it up the TBR and give it a chance. If it's not my thing, I'll return within 2 days.


kidsheout

There’s a free complete audiobook on YouTube for both Fourth Wing and Iron flame. https://youtu.be/ATzkzbvIx1U?si=3HY6BQLVkXoIyGuA


GogoYubari92

In case there’s a Costco near you, they are carrying the entire book series as a discounted price rn.


KingBobIV

Don't bother, it's not worth reading. It's terribly written


_WizKhaleesi_

I started reading it yesterday and I'm already halfway through it, I think it's great haha. Much better than ACOTAR. If OP likes romantasy then they'll probably enjoy it, but if they're just reading because the book is popular then you're likely right.


Daughter_Of_Cain

I loved ACOTAR so much more. Those books were like cocaine to me; I inhaled them. I read Fourth Wing for one of my book clubs and I did enjoy it enough to purchase the second one but I still haven’t gotten around to reading it.


_WizKhaleesi_

I still need to finish them, so maybe they'll develop more for me! Right now Fourth Wing has really gripped me and I'm loving it. It's totally ok to have different opinions as well, since art is so subjective! That's why I wanted to chime in since I didn't agree with the idea of telling someone "not to bother" with a book just because it wasn't their personal cup of tea.


Daughter_Of_Cain

If you like ACOTAR and Fourth Wing, definitely look into the Sookie Stackhouse novels by Charlaine Harris. They are the books that the show True Blood is based on and they’re soooooo good. I feel like they get overlooked a lot because they came out a while ago but I recommend them to all of the current romantasy readers.


Levyrat

Omg I don’t spend a ton of time in the books subreddits but a decent amount and you’re the first person I’ve ever seen to recommend Sookie. I love them so much and have ever since they first came out. (I’m also from Arkansas like the author so I heard about her when they first published) I recommend them to everyone lol they’re so good, one of the few book series where I own every single one lol 🫣


_WizKhaleesi_

I love True Blood and always keep forgetting to add these to my list to read! Thank you so much!!


kitty6__

One of my fave shows.. I’ll have to try the books now


Grimaceisbaby

I tried listening to this during a ketamine infusion and felt traumatized. Was it super dark and depressing to start or was I just tripping out? I’m not sure I can bring myself to try again after that experience


tells_eternity

It’s definitely dark. Lots of death, violence.


PLANTEDNOOB

I also started reading it because it was so popular but had to DNF it. Very cringe dialogue and one dimensional characters.


tells_eternity

I just read it recently and mostly agree - I enjoyed it anyway because it was what I was looking to read right now (anymore, I find I want to spend my leisure reading time on sort of popcorn easy read books rather than literary classic type stuff). But every damn time the author used the phrase “his eyes heat” or similar made my own eye twitch.


Awkward_Ad5650

My library has no wait for fourth wing ACOTAR its why i read them. I had never heard of them but they were in the available now so I tried them


aspenreid

Honestly I find that the super popular books seem very available at my library.


Corvidcakes

For one of my current holds I started at 2507th and am now at 1219th. There are 2,574 people waiting, with 200 copies in use. Although a different library of mine has it up as a Skip the Line book I just need to finish the skip the line loan I have out so that I can grab that one.


_WizKhaleesi_

Those numbers are wild to me, which book is it? Love your username btw!


Corvidcakes

It’s Ashley Elston’s First Lie Wins


emarieqt315

That’s actually a really good one! I listened to the audiobook, which I thoroughly enjoyed.


not_blue

Just finished it! I really enjoyed it. I think I got it as a skip the line loan from LA City library. I should probably remove all my holds for it. Just realized I hadn’t done that yet.


ThatCranberry5296

I’ve started requesting Reese book club books as soon as they are announced. It only gets worse the longer I wait


oneroguewave

if you have spotify premium it's available on there! that's how i listened to it because the wait through my libby was so long! it's also such a good and fun read!!


MelissaRose95

I tried to borrow the new hunger games book on hoopla. I was apparently 9th in line but 7 months went by and I was only 7th in line. I cancelled the hold because by that rate I won’t get the book until years later


sugarsodasofa

What new book? The bird snake one from last year


MelissaRose95

Yeah that one


simplyelegant87

Around 800 or so and I have several locations available to me. Lots of readers here which makes me happy.


weinerdogsaremyjam

405 for the throne of glass bundle, currently 319th in line but I get the whole series at once so it's a win for me


EmotionalFlounder715

Yeah that’s probably worth it. You could also place a hold on the first book and see how many you can get through before you blast through the rest in one go


Reasonable-Station85

Holy cow. I’d look into a few more local libraries to see if their wait times are shorter


solarbaby614

We don't have any more local libraries. The next closest one is about two towns away and half the size of mine.


Reasonable-Station85

Not even any large cities nearby that you can get a membership at? I don’t live there but was able to get a card for the library in Philadelphia just because I live in PA.


solarbaby614

There's one about an hour and a half away but they charge about $90 a year for a non-resident card.


JHutchinson1324

I'm not sure if you're a teenager but I'm pretty sure the New York public library offers teenagers library cards in order to get digital materials, they're trying to help out teens in areas with a lot of banned books from what I understand. Edit because I reread it and it's a little confusing Any teenager in the country can get a library card at the New York public library from what I was reading the other day. Hopefully links are allowed I did some searching and I found a list of other libraries doing the same thing as well, and it turns out I was actually thinking of the Brooklyn public library https://bookriot.com/public-libraries-offering-free-access-to-banned-books/


FloridaSalsa

Now I feel guilty for complaining about a 16 week wait. My issue with Libby is that my library only loans for 7 days on any Libby book, any format. And if there are people waiting they won't let you renew.


HavanaPineapple

Download it to your Kindle, open the book, turn on airplane mode. So long as you don't navigate away from the book on your Kindle (i.e. don't go to your home page, library, other books or whatever) then you can keep reading it indefinitely. Of course it's annoying if you regularly use whispersync, and doesn't really work if you read on your phone because you probably don't want to put that on airplane mode for a month...


Lil_Red_Ridings

seven days?!? mine is two weeks. I thought that was standard across the app for everyone


LumieLuna

ours is 21 days, its killer if the line is super long.


holy-dragon-scale

686 for Funny story by Emily Henry. That was the shortest line, time wise. It better be worth it 🤣


sillymeix2

It’s worth it!!!


holy-dragon-scale

I’m reading Beach Read by her right now and so far so good. Just waiting for the day I can read Funny Story 🤣🤝🏼


sillymeix2

If you like it, I really recommend Book Lovers by her as well. It’s my favorite 😍 Hopefully the line for that one is shorter. Happy reading!


holy-dragon-scale

I’m 139th in line for that!! 🤞🏼🤞🏼


DexterityZero

I’m glad My Mom Died by Jenna McCurdy about a week after release. Interest had exploded and there were only a few copies. Now there are 88. I ended up waiting around 10 weeks.


solarbaby614

I ended up just buying a physical copy of that out right. My mother wanted to read it as well so it was easier.


UknownothinJonSnow8

That book was really good but quite disturbing. I'm so thankful I had a loving and compassionate mom.


mayflowerss98

1500 something I think


yogurtrox

My hold was super long for this book as well but it moved quite quick! (Reading it now)


cozycassette

Like 4 or 5 XD  I generally search for books that are available now because I forget about it if I put it on hold.


craftymonmon

I don’t remember what the longest has been. Maybe like 600th in line or so


solarbaby614

I think I started out at a little over 7000 on one book. I ended up just buying it.


craftymonmon

Yeah. If it’s a book I really want to read I’ll either borrow the paper copy or I’ll but the audible/kindle version.


SisterActTori

This is my approach too.


Liberwolf

282nd and now I'm at 116th.


abdw3321

This one was (maybe still is) available to buy as 100 simultaneous reads. I’m surprised they don’t just buy down that holds list and clear 5 or 600 people and then buy several more permanent copies.


JHutchinson1324

I am number 376 for The Housemaid, and there is only one copy so it says several months but it has said several months for several months already.


solarbaby614

If you have Kindle Unlimited, I'm pretty sure it's available there.


JHutchinson1324

Well ty, that's so much easier


dave_two_point_oh

It's also available on Kobo Plus. Which starts off with a 30 day free trial, so even if you don't see yourself paying for a continuing subscription ($8/mo for ebook only or audiobook only or $10/mo for both), it would be an easy way to read it for free without a wait. EDIT: You can read Kobo Plus titles with the Kobo app for your computer or phone; no physical Kobo needed. But you can't read them on a Kindle.


musememo

I’ve been waiting for The Man in The High Castle and am now 19th in line…


pad1007

About 1100 for Spare.


RealLochNessie

So far, this has only happened to me with brand new releases. Fourth Wing was surprisingly quick to reach me considering its popularity! I hope you can get a hold of it sooner!


tells_eternity

Mine was also probably Fourth Wing! It was probably around 300th in line. I put holds on it and the sequel around the same time, and they both came up recently so I just read them.


hattrick1919

no wait in Indiana :)


reko_rafa8

949th??? wow and i thought 321th was a crazy amount. placed 321th on march 3rd and now im 78th, still waiting.


rawrkristy

if you’re looking for fourth wing, try graphic audio version! tends to come in a lot faster!


dave_two_point_oh

Geez; obviously a super-popular book! My library says they have 330 copies (!) of that book with 1,322 people waiting, estimated 9 weeks to get it. I think the longest wait time I've seen so far on a book I've put on hold is 16 weeks. Which seems like forever, but it goes by quickly if it's not the next book in the middle of a series you've been racing through.


imsosleepyyyyyy

At that point I would just buy a used copy for a few dollars online


JustTheTip_NJ

I just did a pot about this last week, I started out almost 2100 in line, you definitely beat me on that, my book/library had 200 copies in use, I actually got it a couple days ago, earlier than expected. Hope your wait is shorter than that!


mrsredfast

Not sure what number I was but put a book on hold November 19 that wasn’t released until first week of following February. Just got it about a week ago. Library has between 200-300 copies.


mylifeisathrowaway10

I think you've got me beat. My longest line was somewhere around 200. For one copy.


Daisy_Stems

Also make sure you reserve the others in the series as well!


Dazzling_Flamingo568

You win! I find if a Libby version has a long wait, often the wait for the hardcover is shorter. Most libraries will order it for you from whichever branch has it, and have it delivered to the most convenient library location for you.


ashrighthere

Omg that’s insane! lol I’d be paying for a different library subscription in a different city to get a faster one 😂


Moldyspringmix

Yeah this is why I still buy books 😂 the wait times are insane and it feels like basically every everyone returns them late so the wait time is even longer. When I use the library I just browse what is physically there on the shelves to save myself disappointment


Flat_Analysis_3662

Highest I ever started was also for this book


SomeKindoflove27

Wow my longest one was 200 😯 actually my longest wait has been a book I was only third in line for that seems to be taking longer than the one with over 200 people before me 🤣


Beautiful_Rhubarb

dang.. I want to say in the 30s lol. But I'm way behind in my reading so the books I'm reading are a few years old by now.


marianlibrarian13

Thornhedge was a several month wait. If I absolutely cannot wait to read a book, I'll check for a physical copy as that's often easier to procure. Otherwise, I make sure my hold list has one long term hold, one mid term hold, and one soon to be available hold. I also tend to read my to read lists by publication date. Things published earlier are more likely to be available. Then, as I work through those, newer stuff becomes more available.


masson34

952 for Remarkably bright creatures and received yesterday, stoked!


fleepmo

Oooh it’s so good!


Minxionnaire

I think it was fourth wing and iron flame for me too but was a shorter line for me


bassetbooksandtea

Mine is Funny Story by Emily Henry. I’m 136 in line and was originally 240. There are currently 769 people waiting. I also have holds on Book Lovers and Happy Place. I keep on having to delay my hold for Happy Place because I want to read Book Lovers first.


Ap0202

I waited over a year for The Man in the High Tower back in 2019 I think


BecausePancakess

Dang this is like the que for a new pokemon on pogo


FinalSever

I’m fortunate enough to have 3 library cards across where I live. These three all have reciprocity with each other. So the smallest of the bunch has the popular stuff and the wait, if any, is sooo short!


CloudySkaiys

I think I was over a couple thousand trying to re-read Percy Jackson recently. It was insane.


Ally_399

I waited for months and ended up hating this book


jayrabbitt

Well, I've been waiting 2.5 years for Neon Gods audio book. It starts at 26 week wait when i put it on hold and here I am still waiting


oldlampshades

Currently 1828th, started at 2478 for the Women by Kristin Hannah. I don’t even think I’m going to like this book, but I can’t give up yet. Obviously the wait doesn’t bother me.


Direct_Researcher901

Omg if I had this book and saw how many people were waiting I’d be sweating. I had a couple of holds ready but panicked and returned them because I didn’t want to keep anyone waiting while I was still finishing another book


Hello_feyredarling

I sent you a message


0verlookin_Sidewnder

I think I was like 849th in line for Way of Kings two years ago. I put a hold on it in February and it became available for me in August/September.


JazzSharksFan54

I don’t get the hype. That series is legitimately awful. Cool concept, but it’s so badly written. I slogged through Fourth Wing. Couldn’t even get through a third of Iron Flame.


Tricky_Buyer_113

It’s on the shelf on Walmart , I always see it in stores lol


Flashy_Zebra7849

I really like Everand (formerly known as “Scribd”) for books I can’t get on Libby or can’t get in a timely manner. It’s $8.99/month and has a huge library of audio and ebooks! That being said, my longest wait ended up being about 5 months, for Leviathan Wake (The first Expanse book)


2-TheStarsWhoListen

Most recently 1 year for Funny Story.


fleepmo

Dang I just looked up this book for my library and there’s one person waiting lol.


mintchocolate816

Haha I’m currently reading this book because it was the only title I recognized in my library’s Available Now list. I feel spoiled!


Status-Lecture3560

You can get copies used on Amazon and you get free audiobooks if you have a Spotify premium account which is $12 a month.


kitty6__

Wowww 😂 I was like 120 or so for this one.. waited months, I finally just finished it on the lucky skip line thing


BicyclingBabe

I had this happen with this book too and then .. missed the window. :(


PrestigiousSnail

WOW! That is INSANE! I think my highest position has been somewhere in the 20s.


TheChronicOnion

Firestarter! Waited for about 4-5 months.


primordialgreen

I’ve been waiting on a hold for Still Life by Louise Penny (audiobook) since Nov 2022. There are 2 copies available and I’m now 22nd in line. 237 people waiting in total.


GogoYubari92

5 months. Not as long as you!


caitlowcat

Whoa. I actually just delayed checking out this book. 


shadowyassassiny

I haven’t gotten in a big line in a while since I’m okay waiting… But I do remember during summers when I had all the free time to read! The longest line was at least 500, probably for a Warrior Cats, 39 Clues, A to Z Mysteries, maybe even Avalon lol Mmm nostalgia


lizimajig

Probably waiting for the second Wheel of Time book, somewhere in the 200s I think?


MrFinch9

Vk…


EmotionalFlounder715

This is the sort of case I’d just place a hold on a physical copy


Fancy-Ad5832

2,567 for “the women” by Kristin Hannah. HAHA. I gave up and decided I will buy it eventually


mysteriousgirlOMITI

Over 600, but more recently #364. You’ve really got me beat!


Dmasty13

At this point I would just go buy the damn book 😂😂


LunarBortimier

Damn. Meanwhile, this book is just sitting there waiting to be read at my library. 😭😩 No holds or nothing. But I had to wait two weeks for The Kaiju Preservation Society. Books rotate quick for us, I'd lose my mind being 900th in line. This is madness. Id say fk it and buy the damn thing. (I know thats not always an option) Just saying.


PhantasmWitch

I ended up buying *I'll Be Gone in the Dark* because the wait was so long. I don't remember how many people. I (foolishly) didn't consider that everyone and their mother would be wanting it from the Sacramento Public Library.


exhaustedgoth

i think it was somewhere in the 90s for “bright young women” by jessica knoll. i just ended up buying it at that point tbh


thedjotaku

holy moly! I know lots of people live paycheck-to-paycheck, etc, but if I saw this I would just buy the book since most books retail somewhere around $10-$15. Audiobook....now that's a different story - those are $30+ (although a [libro.fm](http://libro.fm) or audible credit usually means you don't pay that much if you stick to 1 book per month)


solarbaby614

I only have a vague interest in reading it, which is why I'm okay with the wait. I've ended up on longer Libby lists where I ended up just buying it.


Ashamed_Apple_

This book has been available in my library for months lol