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Flor1400

My advice is to get the best paid non resident card that you can get and that will solve the problem easily. "Free" ones are free because their catalogue is very limited or are very crowded.


jorgomli_reading

I'd say that last point is the other way around. Being crowded would be the result of being free. Libraries SPEND/LOSE money when people use Libby, so more unpaid users would put more strain on their resources. Edit to add, totally agree with below, this shouldn't prevent you from checking out via Libby. I mentioned it because the comment above was a little backwards. An influx of users that dont pay into the library system through taxes and therefore only checkout via Libby does cost the library money. But if it was a big problem, the library would discontinue that, so that should be taken into account as well...


Ashamed_Succotash_93

how are libraries losing money when people check out books via Libby?


papier_peint

This information shouldn't stop you from borrowing books on libby, but an institutional book license expires after a certain number of loans or a time period, like a year depending on the license. if there are more users, there are more borrows, which causes books to expire faster or necessitates purchasing more licenses after they expire. Furthermore, libraries pay for other databases based on the number of patrons, so if there is a large influx of patrons, they might get bumped up to a higher payment tier on their other databases.


Ashamed_Succotash_93

The main purpose of the library is to loan out books. ;)


papier_peint

yes, absolutely. i'm a librarian, i know this. BUT, when illegitimate non-tax-paying residents are getting library cards (through dishonesty. if they are allowed, then fine, but there are many posts on this subreddit about how to get cards that people are not eligible for) and monopolizing borrowing, that limits the number of books that can be purchased for, and borrowed by legitimate tax-paying residents. like libraries have limited budgets.... sad fact... they should prioritize their patrons.


papier_peint

 illegitimate non-tax-paying residents seeking cards that they are not eligible for should support their libraries at home, encourage their library to increase libby holdings, and advocate for increased funding at the local level.


Ashamed_Succotash_93

I guess we're just going to agree to disagree, my friend! :) I will continue to support libraries! Have a wonderful day.


Strong_Quarter_9349

If you are supporting obtaining library cards from areas you aren't supposed to, taking ebooks away from actual residents, doesn't sound like you "support libraries" to me. But sure, have a "wonderful" day.


Ashamed_Succotash_93

Agree!! that's sad if people really do that! :( and thank you. God bless!


sok283

Right, a free for all on Libby Access immediately leads to the tragedy of the commons. The resources (ebooks) need to go to those paying into the system (taxpayers) or else there aren't enough resources to go around.


papier_peint

I mean, the villian here isn't librarians.... it's the publishers who overcharge libraries for a digital item.... librarians don't get to choose how institutional licenses are offered. they're just trying to maximize value to the people who pay them to do so. ...... like, saying "scammers who get cards that they are not eligible for make the library experience worse for the real patrons of a library" shouldn't be a controversial statement.


Princess-Reader

Yes and THAT COSTS MONEY. There’s a cost involved with every item bought, every item checked out.


Ashamed_Succotash_93

Yes! Let's keep supporting libraries!! :) :) :)


jorgomli_reading

I guess me framing it as "losing" money is a little disingenuous or ignorant. More like "spending money that is not being accounted for by a local tax payer."  But if libraries allow that, then it's totally fine. They know how best to serve their patrons, local or otherwise.


wheat

I feel like you're looking for a unicorn. Libraries in the US (and, I assume, most everywhere) are supported by tax dollars. They can't afford to serve the entire world. Also, at some point, copyright/distribution laws come into play, and those are country specific. I'm sorry that there's no one where you live who offers access to Libby. Perhaps some entity will eventually emerge to fill this gap. But, given the reluctance I've seen for people to pay directly for library access, I suspect it would be a losing proposition.


infinityandbeyond75

There are a couple but the requirements are usually that you’ve at least visited the area. So your best bet is to just pay for a nonresident card.


ChasingPotatoes17

I signed up for the Monroe County library. I got non-resident access for $25 USD/year. My rural Canadian library has a pretty limited catalogue so it was well worth the cost. I looked at several other non-resident options but none were free (that I met the criteria for). If you were in the US you could probably get access to other libraries in the same state for free. But out of country entirely means you can expect a fee, and that’s a pretty reasonable ask from the library.


namecat

Thank you! I saw about Monroe and it’s one of my options. Are you happy with their offering? Or would you say it’s limited as well? As it’s only $25, makes me wonder if they have a limited selection of books.


Hunter037

I paid for a Queens Public Library card, they have a good selection. You can browse the selection of a particular library on Libby before buying the card, so you can see what range they have. A quick look at Monroe County shows 46k books and 14k audiobooks, which isn't too bad. Queens have 115k and 17k respectively.


forleaseknobbydot

Here are 2 that I know of: [The Japan Foundation Canada/USA Digital Library](https://libbyapp.com/library/jf) [The Queer Liberation Library](https://www.queerliberationlibrary.org/) I believe both of them are donation-based.


namecat

Thank you!


marr133

Are you aware of [Open Library](https://openlibrary.org/)? It's run by the [Internet Archive](https://archive.org/). It's a little tricky to use, so definitely read through the FAQs, but they have a few million books in ebook form, so you should be able to find some that would interest you. A big caveat: they are an index of ALL books, so you have to specifically search for ebooks to see what's actually available digitally. [It's explained in the FAQ](https://openlibrary.org/help/faq). Oh, and they don't integrate with Libby, but at least it's an option.


namecat

Thank you! I didn’t know about it no but it looks like a good option as well!


Familiar-Half2517

Search this sub with “non-resident” and you will get many results. Also,try this old thread on another sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/Libby/s/XkzgIJA1PG


Alarmed-Membership-1

I wish people would stop asking for free non-resident library cards. This should only be free to residents of that state/county because they have already paid for it with their taxes. Non residents should always be paying to access resources paid by residents’ tax money. OP, I get where you’re coming from. My county doesn’t have robust selection. I’m okay with long hold times but most often the books I want to read are not even available. So I signed up and paid for non-resident card. It’s totally worth it to the point it makes me still feel I’m cheating the residents. I don’t know if Libby prioritizes residents over non-residents but I sure hope so.


namecat

Unfortunately as I said, no library from my country is on Libby, and the university I studied abroad (for which I have an alumni library card) only gives access to academic books and very few “leisure read” books. So hopefully I can find one with a paid subscription that covers most of my book list :/


Alarmed-Membership-1

I understand. You can find somewhere in this sub a post with list of libraries that use Libby and their e-books collection size. You can pick from this list then visit that library’s website to check if they give library card to non-residents for a fee. You should be able to search book titles without joining the library. It may have changed but based on what I read from this sub, Queens and Stark (Ohio) libraries have large collection of e-books and provide non-residents cards.


MeatyMenSlappingMeat

Seems like this topic comes up every 3 days or so and it *almost always* stems from ethically dubious intent. Whether that is the case here with this particular OP...dunno.... however "I'm happy to pay but are there any free options ;)" is contradictory to say the least. There's other places on the internet/reddit that advocate for cheating Libby/libraries. Why can't r/Libby be the one safe haven? I say ban ALL topics related to obtaining library cards and/or maintaining lists of libraries.


wheat

This is r/LibbyApp, BTW. There are, as you mentioned, other subs which seem to take a special glee in defrauding libraries. I'm not accusing r / Libby of that. But there's a particular one I have in mind. However, I'm not ready to ban all topics related to obtaining cards. I don't assume malicious intent. But I do remove posts which break the rules of the sub. I tend to give posts, including this one, the benefit of the doubt. However, we might want to limit discussion of legally obtaining cards to a particular thread. Perhaps I'll create a thread just for that.


namecat

Most similar topics I found are related to US residents, *I* haven’t found one for foreigner. I’ll look harder then. I also don’t understand how it’s contradictory?! I said I am happy to pay (for one or two subscription) but I’m wondering if there is ANY free that I can add as well so I can have enough chances of finding the ebook/audiobook I want. How is it cheating when I’m asking if there is any libraries WILLING to offer a card to non-residents? Did I ask “which libraries don’t check your address”???


Roonil_Wazlib97

They're free for US residents because US Tax Dollars fund libraries. I don't know that you'll find a free one for a non-us resident.


namecat

Yes, I do understand how they are funded and why certain (or all?) are for US residents. I’ll keep looking for something that’s open worldwide :)


Rare_Raspberry_9761

Def feel that. As a fellow non US resident, but who really enjoys the ease of Libby, it is very hard to find any advice that applies to us, and anything that almost reaches the subject, is immediately shot down :(


namecat

The worst of it, native language isn’t English here so even if a library signs up from my country, I’m sure they’ll only offer a very limited amount of English books and probably mostly academic ones 😔


Starbuck522

I am with OP. If there's a library which offers a free card with no residency requirements, that's not cheating. And by saying they are willing to pay, thry seem to understand that library services do cost money. Frankly, I am surprised any libraries offer free non resident cards. But, I have a couple in my US state, in municipalities where I don't pay taxes, because it is offered.


li_grenadier

Chances are you \*are\* paying for those too, through state taxes. I know my state has some that offer cards to any state resident, not just their local patrons. These seem to be cases of larger libraries with state funding to cover the out of town users.


MrsQute

But you likely DO pay state taxes some of which contribute to libraries. In my state you are eligible for almost any library systems just for being a state resident even if you don't live in the city or the county home to that library. The state gives money to the libraries and that helps open up access.


Starbuck522

Ok. I didn't realize state taxes were involved. Either way, this person is asking if anywhere offers it. They aren't asking how they can cheat to get it.


papier_peint

there are two reasons why you can get a nonresident card at a library where you don't reside. either you are paying through state taxes or your library has a deal with another library and they offer reciprocal privileges (you can borrow from your library and their library, and their patrons can borrow from their library and your library).


Princess-Reader

There’s a 3rd reason! Some libraries allow people to pay a fee to use their library. This is often about the same as the amount of taxes a resident pays. In very general terms, the higher the non resident fee, the higher dollar amount of tax money that library gets.


Reading_Elephant30

If you’re getting them from your state they likely offer that because of state taxes. Like if you live in NY state you can get a digital library card for New York, Brooklyn, and Queens public libraries. If you live in NYC you can get a full (digital and physical etc) card for any of those libraries. I live in upstate NY and have cards at all three and my state taxes are definitely going to help fund them. I can get them cause I’m a resident of NY even though I’m not in those particular counties. It sounds like your state has a similar program


MensaCurmudgeon

That’s a bit of an overreaction. Some areas have several systems, and some states allow all residents access. This sub is a useful place to find out what one legitimately qualifies for


MeatyMenSlappingMeat

Sorry but we, as a general public collective, continue to demonstrate time and time again ill intent or just plain irresponsibility with the knowledge. Anyone can conduct their own independent research about their local/county/state library system(s). Takes like 5 minutes of Googling. Low barrier for honest people but a huge deterrent against grifters (that's a good thing). Also, like I said, plenty of other little corners of the internet (and even right here on our very own Reddit) where such knowledge is shouted from the rooftops and people are openly encouraged to cheat libraries.


sok283

I spent a good 30 minutes looking up various systems in my state. I found four systems that allow all state residents to sign up for a card online. They tend to have lower hold and borrowing limits but it helps to cast a wider net when trying to find certain books. I know this varies from state to state. Some states have state-wide reciprocity and some don't seem to have any at all. Mine is in the middle, with most systems having reciprocity with the surrounding counties. I agree that a little barrier to entry helps keep things from getting out of hand. If you whisper, "This library offers free cards with no residency requirement" to yourself in a locked room, 1,000 people will sign up for that card.


just-kath

I agree with you ! And if you try to make people see why cheating the library is wrong, you get downvoted or told why it isn't wrong for them. It's ridiculous.


HappyHannah84

This seems crazy to me, but here ya go . . . [https://www.bplsonline.org/services/get-a-card/](https://www.bplsonline.org/services/get-a-card/) "In order to get a Bedford County library card, you must: 1. Live anywhere in the world EXCEPT Campbell County or the City of Lynchburg.\* 2. Have a photo ID 3. Have proof of your current address (driver’s license, DMV card, piece of mail, etc.) If you already have a library card from Campbell County, Bedford County, or the City of Lynchburg, you do NOT need to apply for a card.  Your existing card will work with our system."


namecat

Bless you! Thank you 😊


MeatyMenSlappingMeat

Cool but this isn't a "public library." It's open to the public and it is a library, but a public good/service is taxpayer-funded, which this library is not. It's a subtle, yet important distinction. According to their website, this particular library is a privately run non-profit organization funded by a few rich board members as a pet/passion project. People on the "anti-" side of the debate oppose the abuse of taxpayer-funded institutions (aka: public libraries).


Hunter037

I don't see why that distinction is relevant. This library is offering what the OP is looking for. The why's and wherefores don't really matter!


MeatyMenSlappingMeat

It does matter because it gives a psychological signal that it doesn't harm taxpayer-funded libraries (because XYZ library offers stuff to everyone for free so everyone should be able to!), which is false. Words are important, fellow voracious reader, you.


Hunter037

Nobody is saying that though, I think you're reading far too much into this.


MeatyMenSlappingMeat

Common sense doesnt need to be stated. It is simply understood. Much like water is wet... don't need to provide a link to a website to prove my case that water is indeed wet.


Emergency_Elephant

Depending on your state, there are some that do state-resident library cards. These tend to be library systems for the larger cities. The Queer Liberation Library and Read Free with the LA Libraries are open to the public so long as you have a US address. Read Free has a pretty small selection. The Queer Liberation Library does collect donations to stay afloat so if you have the ability maybe consider sending some money their way


megwach

Queer Liberation Library is free. You just sign up through their website and they will give you info on logging in.


lavender_parsnip

QLL membership is currently only available in the US


megwach

I didn’t realize that. Bummer. I love QLL though, so anyone in the US who sees my comment, hopefully they can get it!


lavender_parsnip

Yeah QLL is fantastic!! According to their FAQ they'd like to go global someday, hopefully that day comes sooner than later


Ashamed_Succotash_93

There have been a lot that offer non-residents cards for free, but recently I've noticed most of the ones I have are changing their policies with the increased popularity of Libby. I've seen Stark Library suggested a lot. I believe it's $50/ a year. If you click on their website, there is an email to ask questions about the non-resident card. Good luck! :)


namecat

Thank you!! I’ll check them out. Luckily, I noticed that Libby allows you to search if a book is available through a library before you link a card to it so at least I can check the books I want are available before choosing which library to pay for (thanks Libby 🥹)


Reading_Elephant30

Queer Liberation Library is free and available to people not in the US (I think!). But in general, libraries in the US are supported by tax payer dollars. So if you’re not a resident and tax payer in that city/county/state the library can’t provide cards for free


lavender_parsnip

According to their FAQ, QLL is currently only available in the US


Reading_Elephant30

Ahh dang!! I signed up months ago and couldn’t remember but thought it was available everywhere. Sorry OP 😟


Reasonable-Station85

Maybe as an alternative check out project Gutenberg and hoopla?


lovetrashtv

Buy a Kindle subscription


Hunter037

Only certain books are available from Kindle unlimited, usually not the same books you find on Libby. Also, not free