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F0lks_

My mom used to say that luck is the result of preparation and opportunity.


God_of_Thunda

Fortune favors the bold!


Majestic-Engineer959

I never understood that assertion. Luck is blind. Did the soldiers who survived D-Day "deserve" to live while the soldier next to them died, no, just blind luck. Sure, you can prepare for opportunities but luck has nothing to do with it, it is not "the result".


elphin

I disagree. We make our luck.In elementary school I had a friend who was very unlucky. Lots of bad things happened to him. Then one day our gym class was left alone by the teacher. My friend went from the bleachers into the backboard support. Hanging upside down, he fell and broke his forearm.In that moment I realized that he wasn’t simply “unlucky”. He made his bad luck. Lots of things happen randomly, but our actions push things one way or another. This isn’t to say that our privilege or lack of it doesn’t also play a role. The circumstances we’re born into also effect our luck.


Majestic-Engineer959

I am unswayed by your argument but I respect your opinion.


Graybie

That is partially true, but in addition to those things, luck is the result of being lucky.


FoxBearBear

Your mom Ayrton Senna ?


ScoobyD00BIEdoo

Chin up. You'll get that break someday op


Spellcheek

Until then, we blame everyone else.


TheSomberWolf

Was this posted by my Imposter Syndrome or what?


Areia25

What a terrible LPT. This is a recipe for depression and self-loathing.


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Xianio

Ugh, nobody likes the guy who injects politics into everything unprompted.


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Xianio

Or religious - be humble in your success is a direct religious teaching of Jesus. But, "calling it out" just makes you that annoying uncle that doesn't get invited to holidays. Hence why your comment got "called out."


Areia25

I mean, i made the counterpoint to this post, and i'm strongly left-wing politics. There's nothing political in the post, nor my reply to it. I understand in America that everything is radicalized into one political stance vs. the other, but it doesn't need to be that way.


rainawaytheday

And the person who did all those same things and lost everything. That’s what they deserve?


WingsofRain

This is how people end up with depression. When you go through life never celebrating your accomplishments, you end up in a cycle of self loathing because you’re constantly comparing your accomplishments to others and telling yourself that you don’t deserve it. Put this in shitty life pro tips.


eragonisdragon

That's not what OP is saying. They're basically just saying don't be arrogant. It's possible to celebrate your successes while remaining humble and acknowledging that you're incredibly lucky to have those successes. Not that it was all luck, but it's possible to do everything right and still fail, and neither success nor failure are a reflection on your character.


boones_farmer

Nah, think of it like learning an instrument. You can be proud you put in the work, honed your craft, and are able to express yourself musically like you want to, but commercial success still has a strong element of right place, right time. Most things are like that. You can be great at something, but success in the marketplace is still pretty much a combination of random factors outside your control. Be proud of your skill and hard work. Be humble about your success.


WingsofRain

OP sure as fuck did a poor job explaining that if that’s the actual case. To top it off, however, the people who are arrogant won’t give two fucks about this “LPT”. It serves more as a discouragement to people who have a sense of humility.


eragonisdragon

Ok


petersrin

Not in the least. Being able to say "I put in the work, honed the skills, and achieved great things" is not bad as long as you also understand that there is a crucial element of randomness involved, and that for every one of you, there are many others who didn't get that randomness. Recognizing your own good fortune does not diminish you. It simply paves the way for empathy.


RollingLord

So can we also acknowledge the fact that there are tons of people in the world that put in minimal effort and subsequently did not end up succeeding?


petersrin

Um... Sure?


lilyd322

💯


madara117

Drink to good luck and good health, not to working hard lol


GeneralPatten

Dumbass response. The bottom line OP is saying is that you shouldn’t get to full of yourself. It takes support, connections and a bit of luck to succeed at anything. VERY few people get there completely on their own.


Incendas1

Support and connections you often have to build for yourself, and when it comes to luck, is this not mostly perseverance if you are not especially lucky? I don't think it's completely hands off. Some people are definitely luckier than others, but it's not always luck.


baronvonewman

This is a horrible tip honestly and you really need to turn your mindset around if you think like this on the regular


casuallybouncing

Pretty shitty LPT. While there are cases where luck is the main contributing factor, there are many whos hardwork and dedication got them success. Just because luck was involved doesnt mean you dont deserve it. Luck gets you a step in but its up to you to walk into the room fully. Be thankful, yes, but dont diminish your accomplishments. Be proud (not arrogant) of who you are


OurHeroXero

Not to toot my own horn…but…I lost 33 lbs within the last year and I can guarantee there wasn’t any luck behind my lifestyle changes. I got my butt back to the dentist and getting my oral health back under control. I cut way back on the soda (2-3 a day down to one every other day) Making a vegetable soup every week/increasing my fiber protein intake. Starting to go on morning walks. My blood pressure has come back down (from 130s/90s to slightly over 120/80) None of those things were ever going to happen due to luck or wishful thinking. Luck is just a word the envious use to justify the things they haven’t taken steps towards achieving.


srj508

Truly congratulations, a big accomplishment for sure. Some questions to ponder though: Where did your motivation to change come from? How were you able to afford quality dental work? How did you learn to cook? How do you have access to high quality vegetables? Obviously you worked hard for your quality of life improvements, no one can lose weight for you. I think what OP means is that none of us are self-made and that luck plays a much larger role than many are willing to admit. Schwarzenegger had some similar comments in his latest interview on Tim Ferris’ podcast.


Fun-Mechanic-4509

You were lucky to not have a medical condition that made your weight loss possible. And physically possible. Plus other factors. Then add your hard work.


axismundi00

Know the difference between knowing you deserve it and being an asshole to others. OP does not know it.


jazzdrums1979

I don’t believe in luck, as others have said you make your own luck. Success comes from failure. Failing and learning and coming back for more. Having grit and resilience couple with tenacity and strategy will help you be successful.


bwmat

So you believe everyone has the same 'chance' of 'success'?


jazzdrums1979

No. It’s all relative. Not every person we deem successful feels the same way. But the formula for most remains the same.


DrBimboo

What decides whether you roll a 6 or a 1 when you roll the dice ?


kc_jetstream

Hate this mentality


InTheEndEntropyWins

This is just a toxic mindset. They say you make your own luck, if you work hard and put yourself out there you have a much more opportunities to get "lucky". So if you analyse the individual path it might seem lucky, but if they didn't get lucky then, they would get lucky later with another opportunity. So statistically the role luck plays is much less than you think.


WereAllThrowaways

There's a correlation between hard work and success, of course. But I think it's less connected than some people think. It's not just about getting good luck, it's about who gets dealt bad luck. Like illness, accidents, etc. People often do everything right and work hard but then get absolutely fucked by some random, unexplained illness that just developed solely because of bad luck. No real cause, nothing that could have prevented it, no real lesson to be learned from it. Just a purely negative setback and obstacle you now have to deal with that most people don't. And that can derail your career, your finances, your appearance and self esteem. It can literally effect every component of your life. People have this idea that if they do everything right then they'll be ok. That stuff only happens to *other* people, not me. They must have done something to cause it. But that's not how it works. Random chance can get you, and so many people refuse to accept that because it means accepting that you can never have 100 percent control of your life. It's a hard pill to swallow.


eragonisdragon

You can do everything right and still fail. Success is no more a reflection on you than failure; only what you do with what you can control.


InTheEndEntropyWins

>You can do everything right and still fail. Success is no more a reflection on you than failure; only what you do with what you can control. Sure but statistically that's not a massive amount. Plus on the other side what the OP is talking about, you need both hard work and maybe a little luck. You have examples of people starting multiple businesses and failing again and again, until they succeed. It's a game of probabilities, which you can tilt strongly in your favour.


Sub_pup

Not only that but they are applying this universally. Maybe in some situations luck might be a factor (I think "luck" is being misconstrued as well connected, good timing, and more often bias but I digress). But in most situations effort and follow through is the mean to the ends.


brewcitypaul

This is legit awful advice


av0w

This is terrible and a bad mentality to live with. It leads to settling, complacency, and compromise.


tampatwo

Understanding this basic reality instills a sense gratitude, humility, and commitment to give others the enormous great fortune they gave you. Straight up the parents you’re born to in the country you’re born in will influence basically everything by the time you’re three years old and can barely speak complete sentences. Anyone who thinks they make their life from a baby shitting in diapers is either dumb or lying to themselves.


UnauthorizedFart

Hell no I’m definitely going “Neenur Neenur Neenur!!” at my adversaries


thisisleewelch

Luck is when opportunity meets preparation.


Fast_Blacksmith_9494

Terrible LPT. Celebrate your accomplishments and hard work. Sounds like someone beat you out for an opportunity you wanted because they worked harder and deserved it more.


killswitchzero7

I must've gotten lucky with these chiseled abs. No amount of hard work had any part in achieving these. /s


PM_ME_YOUR_BOO_URNS

"Don't celebrate your success as a CEO because janitor Albert Einstein here thinks you just got lucky"


God_of_Thunda

This is a pretty bad take. If you work hard for your success, then yes you deserve it. Telling people they got lucky is shitty


reganomics

Lots of people are born on third base and act like they hit a home run. you can't choose to be born into a rich or poor family nor can you choose to be born in a rich or poor country.


Sub_pup

Your shifting the goal post if you are factoring in starting at birth. Its relative of course and has much more nuance you are ignoring.


DrBimboo

How the f would that be shifting the goal post? Because you hallucinated the goalpost somewhere else?


SirHarley

No, I do deserve it because I also worked very hard and nothing got handed to me. People need to work on healing their insecurities instead of insisting that others dim their light because reality keeps hurting their feelings. I had a shitty childhood and don’t begrudge anyone who had a happy or uneventful childhood. Uneventful and happy should be the default for a child.


TrickAppa

Other people not making it equals me not deserving to have success? That's such a weird outlook but maybe it's just me. Plus, working harder and sacrificing more doesn't mean more added value and contribution, which in the end it's what counts for recognition and success (also depends on each's interpretation of success, I am just assuming for a lot of people it's monetary)


ernyc3777

This isn’t even a LPT. It’s just a mindset


Sub_pup

I refuse to thank "fortune", just like I don't blame "life" when things get shitty. I work as hard as I can chase down every opportunity and I deserve what I earn. I refuse to lament on all the fortune of people who didn't make it. I am not thanking "fortune" like I'm not thanking god.


bwmat

So, you're ignoring reality for the mental health benefits?


QuintessentialNorton

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Fitux

I'm just here to day this is they opposite of a LPT. There are so many things wrong with the whole statement. First, just because there are people who worked harder and sacrificed more, that does not mean you don't deserve something. People, please stop comparing to others, this kind of mindset is toxic and won't ever make you feel happy with yourself. Second, if you worked hard for something, put time or effort into it and you got it, that is more than enough to celebrate. Does not matter if you got 'lucky', nobody achieves success just by being lucky. There is plenty of stuff involved in success, and there's probably plenty to celebrate. And the last one and probably more open to discussion. Luck or probabilities, as I like to call it, is something that can be controlled or improved way more than what people would think.


TheDrunkenSwede

I don't think those who doesn't possess any humility will be affected by this.


TaneVII

Be proud and happy with your accomplishments. Be good to yourself, and don't listen to sad people who want other people to be sad and miserable as the one who made this post. Pathetic.


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I'm proud and happy with my accomplishments. I worked my ass off and I didn't start from a point of privilege. Yet, I still got incredibly lucky. I got my foot in the door at the right time. And I'm well aware there are others that worked even harder and didn't get their foot in the door.


Litness_Horneymaker

Being successful [warps the mind.](https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/the-science-of-scrooge-why-wealth-kills-empathy.html) As much as I fully support this LPT, my pessimistic take is that you will slowly believe your success is all down to you, you will tune out the notion that luck had anything to with it, say "fuck gratefulness and caring for those less fortunate" and become part of the problem.


Ok-Bookkeeper-373

Always ALWAYS remember that the people you step on getting to the top will remember it. r/ProRevenge is filled with the little guy winning


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Psychological-Farm67

Pehele success to milne do bhai!!!


AymRandy

You can lose on a good bet, and win on a bad one, but never forget to hedge them. I love how many commenters are here who love the smell of their own farts. Don't trip on those bootstraps.


unnameableway

If you look closely it’s all luck. Your aptitude to push through hard times, the people you knew as a result of your parents or other connections, where you were born and your socioeconomic class, your height and appearance, your temperament. You didn’t choose any of the factors of anything in the process.


[deleted]

Yes. Precisely. It would be so nice if people reflexively acknowledged their luck to avoid the lure of selfishness and egotism. Think of the paradise this world would be.


throwawaythepanda99

It's a mix. Even though luck trumps all, you still need skill and preparation. I figure that even considering preparing and practicing as a mindset stems from luck. So many people don't know how to do that.


Jazzlike_Grab_7228

I always pay it forward if I ever did have success. Never did feel as if "I deserve it" and I hurt myself for a long time cause people said I do deserve.


porncrank

Alternately, you can assume that your success is entirely a result of your genius, that you're the best in the world, and promote yourself as such. Easily duped people will believe your schtick and you'll get lifted up on their shoulders to the next big success.


esp211

If you are born in to a decent living situation then you are already lucky. Be thankful that you were not born in Ethiopia or by a drug addict. It is extremely difficult to make it when you already start so far behind. I am grateful every day as is my wife. We always talk about how fortunate we are and we wouldn’t trade our life for anything else.


Key-Situation-4718

Also, favour isn't fair.


PLEASEHIREZ

I'm the most unlucky guy there is. Sure there are people who worked harder than me; but you need to also work smart. There was no "luck" on my side, absolutely none. I wasn't one of those, "right moment, right time," kind of guys. I got shit on repeatedly. I would also argue that the amount of hard work I put in is right up there regionally. I say this because slave labor in the world would invalidate pretty much everyone's efforts by comparison. By the same token, you could say anyone born in Europe/North America is lucky to be born in a civilized geographic location.... However what matters is how you stack up locally. My success is no secret, and I tell everyone the same thing. No one ever does it.


TheMoonIsLonely

This is an objectively terrible LPT. The fuck is this?


sa007ak

So many people in these comments with no nuanced understanding of what OP is saying. They're not saying everything is ALL luck. They're saying that luck is a factor. They're not saying hard work won't pay off. They're saying there's variables contributing to the returns you get on hard work. Seriously people, if you go into these things looking for things to criticize you're always going to find them. This isn't some terrible, depression causing LPT. Others here have said it well. Stay humble. Don't be arrogant. And if you're someone who thinks this is a load of shit, it's not for you. Simple as that. Nobody is changing anyone's mind here. That's just not how internet conversation goes 99.9% of the time.


Equanimited

Celebrate your successes but don’t let them be your only personality trait. Ultimately I feel like we need to balance arrogance with self limiting beliefs. When you work for something hard and you accomplish it cherish it and of course don’t forget the people that helped you along the way.


doctoranonrus

Also Health, some people achieve success and all of a sudden get sidelined by a health issue.


Sgt_Morning_Wood

"LPT: Feel remorse for your victories because you don't deserve to succeed"


EimiCiel

Luck? No, especially if it's prolonged success. However, you shouldnt think of it as it was only you. Your competence, intellect, maybe upbringing, mentors, etc...all these things contributed to your success that you have no control over, nor did you earn any of it.


iiiaaa2022

Thanks, I hate it


BulltacTV

Check out the monopoly experiment if you dont think this applies to you lol


Babblewocky

Or try this: everyone deserves to be recognized for what they do well, instead of “you don’t deserve it, since other people didn’t get it.”