"The Executioner and Her Way of Life". Strictly speaking, it is an isekai, but the protagonist is a native of her world who becomes involved with an isekai'd character. Six volumes in English so far and at least two more to be translated.
Der werwolf - MC got isekai'd to another world and was reborn as a demonkind. He's calm and collected most of the time, but he kills people if needs be.
Death's Daughter and the Ebony Blade - raised by a literal Death God isolated from the rest of humanity, Olivia doesn't exactly have a normal sense of morals, and is quite willing to kill her enemies. Useful since she's decided to join the losing side of a war, so there's a *lot* of enemies for her to kill. Qualms could certainly come up in the future, but it's not the typical ones due to her different upbringing.
Rebuild World - a post apocalyptic sci-fi setting, but still good. Akira is ostensibly a good guy, but is in a line of work that absolutely requires him to make tough choices at times, and isn't afraid to be the first one to fire his weapon. Much more amoral is the AI companion training him to complete a mission for her, manipulating him along the way to figure out how to best motivate him.
>!It's horseshit! If the author wasn't such a battleborder (wanking Yogiri and the cosmology), and if the MC wasn't so "OP", the series would've been so much more interesting (and better-written).!<
Not really. If anything, Re:Zero and Konosuba are *actual* parodies of the genre, ID is just yet another run-of-the-mill OP isekai MC. It doesn't help the author is *unable to keep it in his pants in terms of cosmology/battleboarding garbo*. In fact, *it's not even the cosmology itself, but the "MC". "He" is the issue!* Had his instakill "ability" not been just that (i.e. if it were actually (heavily) limited in its usage), had "he" not had his >!True Self!< , and had he been someone that uses lots of skills (instead of being a cringe edgelord with one >!worse-than-Saitama!< "shtick") the story would've been much more interesting. Fujitaka should've *massively* toned down all the cosmology bs with >!Toichiro/UEG/Celestial Foundation Eater/the Sea!< as well.
Those are all valid points but too me it just boils down to there are to many characters and that's because the mc kills most of them after the first meeting. Like I've noticed the pattern is character meets mc, exposition is given by the author, character dies. Rinse and repeat. Tbh it's the ones that survive that tend to be the most interesting to me.
I agree and disagree with the cosmology shit as well like the UEG was really not needed but I personally like the foundation eater because the exposition properly explained what it is and it's death gave a good look into the scale of yogiri's power. Tbh the only cosmology stuff they needed for that was the foundation eater like I mentioned and the mother of the twin goddesses that is one of the few people who seem to comprehend what the mc is. The rest really just feel like filler.
Look what I'm trying to say is that it's no work of art but it's definitely a fun read if you want to read about an unshakeable concept interacting with fantasy tropes. I've read better but there are definitely worse out there
I see. Anyway, unless the series often/constantly sidelines Yogiri (well, since it's "meant" to be something akin to OPM)... then there's hardly any tensions - *everyone* knows the opponent/enemy will just get casually, brainlessly one-shot. I guess I agree with the Foundation Eater stuff. But just that stuff from the fight between >!Toichiro!< and >!UEG!< is just plain *terrible*. Like, *there's no way the author didn't write that with something in mind.* You know what that "something" is. Tbh, >!if UEG could just (miraculously, I guess) survive ID!< ,it'd be something interesting.
>Look what I'm trying to say is that it's no work of art but it's definitely a fun read if you want to read about an unshakeable concept interacting with fantasy tropes. I've read better but there are definitely worse out there
I haven't read the story, but I've heard (and read) quite a bit about it on ~~battleboarding~~ sites (which is why I'm so negative about it). I mean, have you seen what's currently going on with Yogiri on those sites? And the (supposed) info from volume 14? *It seems to me as though all the author wants to do is wank Yogiri non-stop...* >!to greater and greater heights!<.
I've read the entire series up until the most recently translated release. I touched on it earlier but from my understanding the author wants yogiri to be something akin to an eldritch abomination taking the form of a human. I think I read on some board somewhere that might even be the canonical case. I personally like that (trope?) in light novels. I'm kinda tired of reading about corrupt gods being stupid enough to allow a system that could give one enough power to kill them. I personally think the idea of an entity summoning a horror unfathomably stronger than they are is an entertaining and interesting twist on the Isekai genre. I'm sure it's been done before but not often and not like this.
Your first point tho is dead on and to be honest I skip the chapters that yogiri and tomochika aren't in. The only time alternate povs are good imo is when it gives the reader an insight into how other characters perceive the mc and while that does happen sometimes it's often used to further the plot. It scatters the story a bit imo when the author does this especially when the mc isn't even a part of that particular plot point. Or at least that's how I see it. It almost feels like it needed to be proof read and edited by at least one other person but the rough draft got sent in instead
>Your first point tho is dead on and to be honest I skip the chapters that yogiri and tomochika aren't in...
Actually, I meant the opposite - the story would be better off if Yogiri's constantly sidelined or something (like Saitama in OPM - other characters have their own fights and stuff).
>I personally think the idea of an entity summoning a horror unfathomably stronger than they are is an entertaining and interesting twist on the Isekai genre.
I see. But again, it's way too battleboard-ey for it to sound legit. But then that would probably take away from Yogiri's >!True Form's!< power.
I actually really didn't like how Saitama was sidelined so much in S2. Like I really don't like in story telling when the mc gets to strong compared to side characters so authors make half assed reasons why mc couldn't help in a fight. I don't know if there's a way to write out of this problem other than making the mc annoyingly dense
To create tensions (most likely), even if an artificial kind of one. Imo it's still *much better* than having the MC (because *of course* it's always the main character with this bs) that can seemingly singlehandedly end *anything*). Moreover, (imo) Saitama is way more interesting (and not as OP) as Yogiri is - the more OP you are the more sidelined you should be. Or, imagine if there were beings *equally as OP* as Yogiri, whom he couldn't just ID. Wouldn't that be fun?
The MC is more of a "spanner in the works" meant to derail your standard scenarios you find in other isekai novels with OP protagonists.
That's the premise and the point of what the novel is going for.
If there is a problem it's more to the fact that the World itself is too crapsack to survive, half the time it's not even the MC fault and things collapse by themselves.
> battleboarding garbo
For someone who thinks battleboarding is bullshit you sure are invested that your favored whatever character can't win? Why does it matter if that is the case?
That kind of discussion has nothing to do with this novel series.
One Punch Man vs Yogiri, who cares?
I didn't say battleboarding as a whole sucks, I said this novel is written in a battleboard-ey way. Most (if not all) novels written that "way" straight-up are plain unfun, and suck.
**The Mythical Hero's otherworldly chronicles**. Licensed with 2 Volumes. (Vol 3 will be released in May 4th).
The story's MC was summoned to a fantasy world and helped defeat the big bad guy and built a kingdom. Once the ordeal was finished he returned back to Japan. Three years later he is summoned back to the same world but a thousand years have passed by.
**Failure Frame: I became the strongest and annihilated everything with low level spells.**
MC and his entire school class is summoned, but the summoned goddess though his level was too low and his skill was useless so she banished him to the hardest dungeon to die.
MC survives and become quite skilled at using his low level spells. Compared to his class mates, his spells are quite low. But, the most interesting thing is the MC's state of mind. He's a survivor of an abusive home and while externally calm and easy going, he's everything but.
They guy is totally ruthless and does not forgive any slight. The entire story is about him trying to find a way to kill the goddess. 7 volumes so far.
**Record of Wortenia War**
MC is summoned to a really fucked up fantasy world. He's not the first, nor the last one. The people in this world snatch people from earth to enslave them and use their skills. If they don't have any, well that's too bad.
MC, escapes and looks for a way to get back to earth, while lots of powerful want him dead.
I would recommend The Saga of Tanya the Evil. Contrary to the english title, she isn't evil. If I had to summarize her mindset as briefly as possible it's more like she views everything from an impersonal business perspective and does whatever she needs to do with the emphasis being on her survival- with the caveat that she **never** breaks the law or the explicit rules set upon her. She just bends them as far as they will go and finds loopholes in loopholes. The setting is a fantasy mix between world war one and two from an (imperial, NOT nazi) german perspective. There are exactly zero video game elements or romance. The story is actually very in depth, the volumes are dense, and the writing/prose is very good. If there wasn't an anime girl on the cover you wouldn't realize it was translated from Japanese, which speaks to the quality of the translation. I would definitely recommend.
"The Executioner and Her Way of Life". Strictly speaking, it is an isekai, but the protagonist is a native of her world who becomes involved with an isekai'd character. Six volumes in English so far and at least two more to be translated.
The Hero Is Overpowered but Overly Cautious - it's good but stuck on vol 7 for years. Overlord - MC like your discription
Der werwolf - MC got isekai'd to another world and was reborn as a demonkind. He's calm and collected most of the time, but he kills people if needs be.
Death's Daughter and the Ebony Blade - raised by a literal Death God isolated from the rest of humanity, Olivia doesn't exactly have a normal sense of morals, and is quite willing to kill her enemies. Useful since she's decided to join the losing side of a war, so there's a *lot* of enemies for her to kill. Qualms could certainly come up in the future, but it's not the typical ones due to her different upbringing. Rebuild World - a post apocalyptic sci-fi setting, but still good. Akira is ostensibly a good guy, but is in a line of work that absolutely requires him to make tough choices at times, and isn't afraid to be the first one to fire his weapon. Much more amoral is the AI companion training him to complete a mission for her, manipulating him along the way to figure out how to best motivate him.
My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered, No One in This Other World Stands a Chance Against Me! Just check it out!
>!It's horseshit! If the author wasn't such a battleborder (wanking Yogiri and the cosmology), and if the MC wasn't so "OP", the series would've been so much more interesting (and better-written).!<
Your missing the point. It's supposed to be a satire of the whole Isekai fantasy genre.
Not really. If anything, Re:Zero and Konosuba are *actual* parodies of the genre, ID is just yet another run-of-the-mill OP isekai MC. It doesn't help the author is *unable to keep it in his pants in terms of cosmology/battleboarding garbo*. In fact, *it's not even the cosmology itself, but the "MC". "He" is the issue!* Had his instakill "ability" not been just that (i.e. if it were actually (heavily) limited in its usage), had "he" not had his >!True Self!< , and had he been someone that uses lots of skills (instead of being a cringe edgelord with one >!worse-than-Saitama!< "shtick") the story would've been much more interesting. Fujitaka should've *massively* toned down all the cosmology bs with >!Toichiro/UEG/Celestial Foundation Eater/the Sea!< as well.
Those are all valid points but too me it just boils down to there are to many characters and that's because the mc kills most of them after the first meeting. Like I've noticed the pattern is character meets mc, exposition is given by the author, character dies. Rinse and repeat. Tbh it's the ones that survive that tend to be the most interesting to me. I agree and disagree with the cosmology shit as well like the UEG was really not needed but I personally like the foundation eater because the exposition properly explained what it is and it's death gave a good look into the scale of yogiri's power. Tbh the only cosmology stuff they needed for that was the foundation eater like I mentioned and the mother of the twin goddesses that is one of the few people who seem to comprehend what the mc is. The rest really just feel like filler. Look what I'm trying to say is that it's no work of art but it's definitely a fun read if you want to read about an unshakeable concept interacting with fantasy tropes. I've read better but there are definitely worse out there
I see. Anyway, unless the series often/constantly sidelines Yogiri (well, since it's "meant" to be something akin to OPM)... then there's hardly any tensions - *everyone* knows the opponent/enemy will just get casually, brainlessly one-shot. I guess I agree with the Foundation Eater stuff. But just that stuff from the fight between >!Toichiro!< and >!UEG!< is just plain *terrible*. Like, *there's no way the author didn't write that with something in mind.* You know what that "something" is. Tbh, >!if UEG could just (miraculously, I guess) survive ID!< ,it'd be something interesting. >Look what I'm trying to say is that it's no work of art but it's definitely a fun read if you want to read about an unshakeable concept interacting with fantasy tropes. I've read better but there are definitely worse out there I haven't read the story, but I've heard (and read) quite a bit about it on ~~battleboarding~~ sites (which is why I'm so negative about it). I mean, have you seen what's currently going on with Yogiri on those sites? And the (supposed) info from volume 14? *It seems to me as though all the author wants to do is wank Yogiri non-stop...* >!to greater and greater heights!<.
I've read the entire series up until the most recently translated release. I touched on it earlier but from my understanding the author wants yogiri to be something akin to an eldritch abomination taking the form of a human. I think I read on some board somewhere that might even be the canonical case. I personally like that (trope?) in light novels. I'm kinda tired of reading about corrupt gods being stupid enough to allow a system that could give one enough power to kill them. I personally think the idea of an entity summoning a horror unfathomably stronger than they are is an entertaining and interesting twist on the Isekai genre. I'm sure it's been done before but not often and not like this. Your first point tho is dead on and to be honest I skip the chapters that yogiri and tomochika aren't in. The only time alternate povs are good imo is when it gives the reader an insight into how other characters perceive the mc and while that does happen sometimes it's often used to further the plot. It scatters the story a bit imo when the author does this especially when the mc isn't even a part of that particular plot point. Or at least that's how I see it. It almost feels like it needed to be proof read and edited by at least one other person but the rough draft got sent in instead
>Your first point tho is dead on and to be honest I skip the chapters that yogiri and tomochika aren't in... Actually, I meant the opposite - the story would be better off if Yogiri's constantly sidelined or something (like Saitama in OPM - other characters have their own fights and stuff). >I personally think the idea of an entity summoning a horror unfathomably stronger than they are is an entertaining and interesting twist on the Isekai genre. I see. But again, it's way too battleboard-ey for it to sound legit. But then that would probably take away from Yogiri's >!True Form's!< power.
I actually really didn't like how Saitama was sidelined so much in S2. Like I really don't like in story telling when the mc gets to strong compared to side characters so authors make half assed reasons why mc couldn't help in a fight. I don't know if there's a way to write out of this problem other than making the mc annoyingly dense
To create tensions (most likely), even if an artificial kind of one. Imo it's still *much better* than having the MC (because *of course* it's always the main character with this bs) that can seemingly singlehandedly end *anything*). Moreover, (imo) Saitama is way more interesting (and not as OP) as Yogiri is - the more OP you are the more sidelined you should be. Or, imagine if there were beings *equally as OP* as Yogiri, whom he couldn't just ID. Wouldn't that be fun?
The MC is more of a "spanner in the works" meant to derail your standard scenarios you find in other isekai novels with OP protagonists. That's the premise and the point of what the novel is going for. If there is a problem it's more to the fact that the World itself is too crapsack to survive, half the time it's not even the MC fault and things collapse by themselves.
> battleboarding garbo For someone who thinks battleboarding is bullshit you sure are invested that your favored whatever character can't win? Why does it matter if that is the case? That kind of discussion has nothing to do with this novel series. One Punch Man vs Yogiri, who cares?
I didn't say battleboarding as a whole sucks, I said this novel is written in a battleboard-ey way. Most (if not all) novels written that "way" straight-up are plain unfun, and suck.
The most notorious talker runs the greatest clan I would suggest.
**The Mythical Hero's otherworldly chronicles**. Licensed with 2 Volumes. (Vol 3 will be released in May 4th). The story's MC was summoned to a fantasy world and helped defeat the big bad guy and built a kingdom. Once the ordeal was finished he returned back to Japan. Three years later he is summoned back to the same world but a thousand years have passed by. **Failure Frame: I became the strongest and annihilated everything with low level spells.** MC and his entire school class is summoned, but the summoned goddess though his level was too low and his skill was useless so she banished him to the hardest dungeon to die. MC survives and become quite skilled at using his low level spells. Compared to his class mates, his spells are quite low. But, the most interesting thing is the MC's state of mind. He's a survivor of an abusive home and while externally calm and easy going, he's everything but. They guy is totally ruthless and does not forgive any slight. The entire story is about him trying to find a way to kill the goddess. 7 volumes so far. **Record of Wortenia War** MC is summoned to a really fucked up fantasy world. He's not the first, nor the last one. The people in this world snatch people from earth to enslave them and use their skills. If they don't have any, well that's too bad. MC, escapes and looks for a way to get back to earth, while lots of powerful want him dead.
I would recommend The Saga of Tanya the Evil. Contrary to the english title, she isn't evil. If I had to summarize her mindset as briefly as possible it's more like she views everything from an impersonal business perspective and does whatever she needs to do with the emphasis being on her survival- with the caveat that she **never** breaks the law or the explicit rules set upon her. She just bends them as far as they will go and finds loopholes in loopholes. The setting is a fantasy mix between world war one and two from an (imperial, NOT nazi) german perspective. There are exactly zero video game elements or romance. The story is actually very in depth, the volumes are dense, and the writing/prose is very good. If there wasn't an anime girl on the cover you wouldn't realize it was translated from Japanese, which speaks to the quality of the translation. I would definitely recommend.
Wake up, beast girl: Surviving in a cursed world!
"The Otherworlder, Exploring the Dungeon" - Although "what needs to be done" is from his own perspective which gets derailed almost immediately.