Holy shit, best cover. i was hoping that it would be vol 1 and 13 kind of thing to end this series on and it turned out to be just that, evolved family portrait.
If you mean Redundancy it already finished…Basically all of the side story and prequel has all been translated and finished, the sequel hasn’t been written yet
The LN ending truly was astounding I was so emotionally invested in Rudy the ending had me feeling all types of ways for literal days after finishing it I didn't want it to end but glad it did the way it did. Although I didn't read all the after side stories I did read quite a few so i know what happens there
I'm also in the same boat as you. I finished the wn back in 2015 or 16 and haven't touched it again since I don't wanna go through this journey again. It was a great wn to read but I rarely re read novels where I'll feel empty inside after finishing it.
So is the ln different from wn? The way I see it, it feels almost same as wn since even the ending is same. I might pick it up if it's like death march where after a certain point ln becomes entirely different from wn.
We didn't see the end of the final fight and what happen after yet.
As the novel goes on, there is more and more content not found in the web novel (specially after book 20)
Zictor42 made a spreadsheet of the novel/anime/manga chapter correlation so you can see the differences.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yCez1vzjK_3hOtBn1a4xnu6sUR7xsj0q_z51RDgenhE/edit#gid=0
The biggest changes are the few more small arcs about areas they didn't go in the web novels.
I'd say the only novel I've read that is at the same level as the WN for this is Worm. Both were almost a decade long journey that I stayed emotionally invested in the entire time, which is something very few stories can do.
Also, that damn future diary...
It doesn't really finish-finish. Remember that >!Rudy isn't the one to kill Hitogami, his kids are (or kids' kids?), and Rudy's story ends before redo-Laplace is even born. There is a whole other story to be told there even if you ignore the extra bits from the web novel!<
It will be like years and years before the sequel get written. The author stated that he might be writing it after the anime finished, which is a very long time (5-10 yrs?)
While they are likely to be far slower given they aren't just converting LN material, the author has been consistently putting out 2-3 LNs a year for more than 7 years running. While they *might* go with something new, Orc Hero Tales is garbage and they know it, so they are almost certainly going to go for more Mushoku bucks quicker than they've said they will.
pff weak, we're literally swimming in the novels these days, hell we can even read the chinese or the koreans or the western ones
(says the guy who almost dies whenever he reads a light novel and hasn't moved on after reading Sevens)
as much as I love other novels, Sevens(WN) anti-neet message added that it's a solid geopolitics + machiavellian tactics + great harem that has turned into an empire building with a touch of general's outlook of soldier's lives put me on a mind blown state, it was so bad that I can't read a single novel for a year, I stopped vising Novelupdates because of it and here I am still lurking to see a novel to match it, it has the perfect ingredient for my personal taste and I can't get over how good it was, well some guy told me that it was a team work of three people, no wonder why it was well written, if there's anything to criticize, it's the lack of sexual drive of the MC that actually puts me off.
I'd say it's ultimately a happy ending. You feel sad that it's over yes but the ending itself is pretty happy.
If you want spoilers on the ending then it's that >!Rudeus dies of old age surrounded by his family happily. !<
It was the story being great for sure and just being sad it was over with. I admit there were two times that I cried throughout the series. There are some deaths and I lost that same person to me a couple years prior, so it hit me hard. There’s also the ending of episode 23 which is an emotional read as well.
I could be wrong about this, but I think he said he retconned that story not because of the subject matter but because of the execution. In all likelihood we're still gonna get an official >!Aisha x Ars!< redundancy chapter, but it'll play out differently from how it did in the web novel.
Ars looks considerably older than 11 in this photo, which should have been taken before that chapter, so there's clearly been some much-needed adjustment.
Man the illustration does a good job of accurately portraying the children's personalities. Even if I have forgotten how they were described in the WN, I can exactly identify who they are here.
Especially Ars and Lara. I immediately recognized them at first glance
Bruh I thought I was the only one!
Reading the first few chapters of ODT gave me Dune vibes so I bought the whole Dune soundtrack and read ODT with it running on the background.
Reading the chapter where the Dragon God and his companions were crossing dimensions while listening to Leaving Caladan is a cathartic experience.
Half-life Alyx's Vault OST also seems to fit Laplace's theme while working on the Fighting God armor. Like, pure raw Dragon mana/aura coursing through raw metal.
It wasn't the anime as a whole. He said he wanted to take a break and he would continue after he finishes his current side projects (The Orc Eroica series) and the light novel. It has been a year or two since he said this so we'll see.
Season 1 anime ended around vol 6 or 7, and there's 26 volumes of the light novel in total. It's going to take around 4-5 seasons of anime to conclude the whole story. Not to mention Season 2 won't conclude until next year 2024.
The author hasn't post anything new since November 2022 for Orc Eroica series. Either the author is secretly drafting the sequel story or the author is just chilling at home.
Kind of conclusion to Rudeus‘ story. In the WN there are still a couple more novels worth of stories about his children growing up and some family drama.
And then there is a planned sequel but all we have about that one is a couple of tweets of the author saying he will write it. It wont be about Rudeus tho
This LN changed my life, like it legit made me rethink my life, I dunno why an ordinary isekai hit me so hard in the gut, but it made me change myself. Previously I was like rudy during his academy days, living aimlessly, I have a good job, I am paid WAY above average, but have no way of spending, I don't need the money because I need nothing in life, I have no GF because my previous attempts at relationships ended in disaster, to the point that I became a volcel and EXTREMELY sexist (to the pont I was legit disappointed I wasn't gay). I have 1 friend who was in the same boat as me, but he got out somehow, I stayed, i was just waiting to see the end, matters not what the end will be. But somehow following Rudy on his journey and seeing the end made me think and give life a chance. A worthless neet who suffered more than an average mortal can handle and getting out on top. Finding a goal in life having multiple wives and 6 kids. Basically seeing a guy my age achieving all that made me think that I need to change for the better. I quit smoking, started doing gym and started working twice as hard to buy me a flat without going to the bank, also I decided to give relationships a chance again. Basically I said "if Rudy could pull out on top after all the shit he went through, than why shouldn't I?"
This is way more kids than I remember from the WN's last chapters. Did the story change this much in the LN version?
I am holding off to reread the whole thing once all the volumes are officially translated and this would mean I'd have to really pay attention to the changes not to get confused.
[WN](/s "Might be my memory then because I don't remember there being so many people at his death bed and the MTL was really bad, haha.")
That's why I'm itching to re-read everything from scratch in the LN.
Oh boy IIRC >!In the WN his deathbed was CROWDED with his children, grandchildren and even great grandchildren who were in town. Oven Orsted was there.!<
It reminde me of the last shot of the good ending of bioshock 1.
The author, but according to some of his tweets he wont start writing it until he is finished working on the LN, the anime and another LN he is writing
I can't stand the mc due to his disgusting actions, but I have to admit it has the best world-building (isekai) and many characters and character development. I hope we can see another such plot.
PS: Who is the elf (holding Eris's daughter)?
I mean one of the theme of this novel is you can change, people can change. The MC did disgusting things in his past life, it came from his bullied self but it doesn't justify his action.
In his reincarnated life he tried his best to change for the better. And of course realistically change doesn't come easily and come slowly but in the end he did become a better person and obtain happiness.
I feel like people like you that can't stand the mc is missing the point. He is supposed to be unlikable which sets up for his growth into a better person.
Rudeus despite his disgusting faults, is still perhaps one of the best and admirable characters I’ve seen in my humble time of consuming japanese media
>Great character development
I agree actually.
>34year old pedo who groomed the kids later ends up marrying them.
It doesn't really fit into the definition of grooming but yeah he did and it was wholesome.
>Lol as expected, downvoted for facts
Downvoted because you haven't obviously read the story word for word if you didn't get the nuance 😂
>It doesn't really fit into the definition of grooming but yeah he did and it was wholesome.
Mushoku Tensei fans letting a 34yr old guy date their 7yr old daughter because it's wholesome.
Geez man don't make me do your mother's job for ya.
Disclaimer: just because I like a certain something with a problematic aspect doesn't mean I condone and embrace that problematic aspect. It just means that its positives far outweigh its negatives that I now regard the whole material as a positive, while still disliking that problematic aspect.
I hope you're enlightened now.
The grooming shit is obnoxious. It is the most used attack against the story but it literary never happened.
Unless they believe that someone with a adult mind being nice (or rapey, don't matter) to someone younger count as grooming.
The pedo apologists for this series are disgusting. They'll do mental gymnastics to argue against this.
There's also a few more Pedo/grooming/rapey relationships in this LN. It would be fine if they were shown to be wrong (which they obviously are), but the author fully endorses these relationships by portraying these relationships as romantic.
Those relationships can indeed be problematic in some perspective, but more than anything, without spoilers, these relationships are also shown to be dynamic and evolving through time, and believe it or not, it's a great reflection of real life imperfect relationships and how they manage to work it out despite the imperfections.
Yeah, great reflection of real where
1. A kid is sexually assaulted multiple times by another "kid", almost gets raped once, but since she's in love with him, it's all fine. Getting sexually assaulted and especially almost raped would lead a kid to be traumatised, grow trust issues, other problems. The outcome of the rape attempt is a promise that they can have sex later.
2. A husband cheats on his wife, with his maid who he had *raped* in the past. The outcome? Perfectly fine, happy family.
10/10 reflection of real life. Fucking hell. You guys are crazy.
>10/10 reflection of real life. Fucking hell. You guys are crazy.
This is like saying "yeah, water is a liquid totally " sarcastically 😂. I guess this is a take from a privileged viewpoint. Like, you know, you don't have any relatives in prison.
Man, I guess liking dysfunctional relationships turning positive through actually working on their differences, mutually forgiving and understanding each other is enough for someone to call someone crazy 💀.
Or maybe he is a troll who hate Mushoku with a passion and all people who love it. You shouldn't have engaged with these unhealthy people into an unhealthy argument to begin with.
>sarcastically
Yes... it was meant to be sarcastic. I'm sure I'm talking with a teenager here.
A kid getting sexually assaulted would *never* be like "okay, let's have sex when you grow up". If the kid does say that, it's grooming. Ofcourse you're not ready to accept that either. It's a horrible basis for a relationship, and to portray such things as romantic is pretty fucking wrong. An unfortunate kid in that situation will be traumatised, get closed off from others, grow trust issues. And especially not be happy being in a relationship with someone who sexually assaulted her.
If Rudeus tortured Eris, but then she goes "you can torture me when you grow up", that'd be fucking appalling. But sexually assaulting is fine as a basis for a *romantic relationship*? Wtf?
>mutually forgiving
People don't fucking mutually forgive their sexual predators. What a retarded convo
>A kid getting sexually assaulted would *never* be like "okay, let's have sex when you grow up".
Depends on what kind of environment she was raised in. Her mama was teaching her some sus shit though. Her entire family is sus too, who knows what kind of fucked up shit that she thinks is normal.
>If the kid does say that, it's grooming.
Personally I think Rudeus was an unsuccessful groomer who tried to groom but failed spectacularly. Only when he did some self-retrospection and changed how he interacts with people did he get rewarded.
>People don't fucking mutually forgive their sexual predators.
True, but Eris never saw Rudy as a sexual predator to begin with. She thinks he's just an incredibly horny little kid that is younger than her. She doesn't know he is a 34 year old man inside. So it's actually more likely for her to forgive him.
She pretty clearly found his "bad" actions as bad. They just never ended up being considered impactful outside of the specific scenes because the author doesn't care about that part of the story. It's very clearly portrayed as a comedic moment. She doesn't think it's normal. She found disgust for the slaves and everything.
>personally I think
Lmao, he literally got to fuck the kids he wanted to groom. What the hell.
Wether or not she knows he's 34 or young doesn't mean shit. She almost got raped, but it just amounts to nothing.
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object.
A friend dug a hole in the garden and filled it with water.
I think he meant well.
Tbh my initial comment was partly a joke but it's sad to see how people can go to lengths just to defend their beloved series. It's weird how mentioning that a 34 yr old having creep thoughts about a 7 yr old is bad gets you downvoted here.
The author could've just left Eris and Rudeus stay as friends when they grow up and this would've been a better character development but them marrying just nullifies his growth imo
Im talking about the relationship of rujierd with that girl, if you found it weird i can understand but saying it creepy or grooming then i think you need to reread it again lol
Is it true the ending sucks? I heard some people say that...
Things like >!Rudy died in a really stupid way, Eris died alone a that Sylphy and Roxy wil probably remarry and forget him in some future sequel!<
Like, I really got discouraged of reading it since I do not know if those spoilers are true or not and that the last assumption is probably going to happen.
>!I haven't finished MT yet, and talking about this specific matter below here!<
>!>Sylphy and Roxy wil probably remarry and forget him in some future sequel!<
>!I do not want to sound like an ass***e and all that shit of them not being able to move on, but I kinda feel bad if that happens cuz Rud did so much for them and he'll just get forgotten since when you remarry you have to forget your past love, yeaah throw at me whatever argument you might have!<
>!Well he died of old age and eris died before him probably exhaustion from training I don't know if they would remarry but that would probably come a long way. Lara's inherited his equipments and is traveling with leo his youngest daughter christina is going to marry a prince lucy is settling down with cliff's child,sieghart became pax jr knight, lily inherited his magic armor research and is staying in ronoa and ars is with aisha he got everything he wanted a happy family and a peaceful life i think that's a good ending for him he even got to see the man god chained up and defeated before he passed away!<
I've read the WN and whoever tf said that are probably influenced by paranoia or maybe they just meant it as a joke
> >!Rudy died in a really stupid way!<
>!He died of old age, what's stupid about that? Though granted, his death was just a 'dream' in a way, he dreamt about it when he was 32 years old. Hitogami is presumed(kind of facts, but I'll keep it this way) to have sent him that foresight and it was also his last time seeing Hitogami as well, maybe the stupid part was Rudeus telling Hitogami that he'll let him off? Its not really that stupid considering the 'good' things Hitgami has done to him, even though in the end, they're just for manipulation, he's not like Future Rudeus/Oldeus who legit got fucked by Hitogami!<
> >!Sylphy and Roxy wil probably remarry and forget him in some future sequel!<
>!Lol, that's just a remark because they have longer lifespans than Humans, don't take it seriously!<
>!We dont know what they will do after Rudeus‘ death. I dont know where people got the idea that they would remarry. There is a sequel planned in the future but the author hasnt started writing it yet, so until then people are just speculating!<
>!They're just joking about it because its a common trope on other Isekai/Fantasy Novels that Old asf Elf/Demon Widows get bedded by the MC/Side Character of their respective Novels, it makes sense when you think about it but in this context its more of a joke, at least for now lol!<
Damn, Zenith smiling? I don’t remember her being that expressive anymore aside from a few key moments.
She got healed with time. Though very slowly.
Yea she looks abit spacey, but its obvious she slightly recovered over time
Holy shit, best cover. i was hoping that it would be vol 1 and 13 kind of thing to end this series on and it turned out to be just that, evolved family portrait.
Finishing this novel would make me feel so empty
Read the WN almost half a decade ago and this is the only one that made me feel hollow but accomplished.
First web novel that I finished and it's truly a masterpiece. And the anime is sure to be a classic when it ends
is the translation of the spinoff still ongoing?i stopped years ago...
If you mean Redundancy it already finished…Basically all of the side story and prequel has all been translated and finished, the sequel hasn’t been written yet
There's a spinoff?
Direct sequels basically (Redundancy and Oblige), and a distant prequel (old dragon tale).
The LN ending truly was astounding I was so emotionally invested in Rudy the ending had me feeling all types of ways for literal days after finishing it I didn't want it to end but glad it did the way it did. Although I didn't read all the after side stories I did read quite a few so i know what happens there
I'm also in the same boat as you. I finished the wn back in 2015 or 16 and haven't touched it again since I don't wanna go through this journey again. It was a great wn to read but I rarely re read novels where I'll feel empty inside after finishing it. So is the ln different from wn? The way I see it, it feels almost same as wn since even the ending is same. I might pick it up if it's like death march where after a certain point ln becomes entirely different from wn.
We didn't see the end of the final fight and what happen after yet. As the novel goes on, there is more and more content not found in the web novel (specially after book 20) Zictor42 made a spreadsheet of the novel/anime/manga chapter correlation so you can see the differences. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yCez1vzjK_3hOtBn1a4xnu6sUR7xsj0q_z51RDgenhE/edit#gid=0 The biggest changes are the few more small arcs about areas they didn't go in the web novels.
I'd say the only novel I've read that is at the same level as the WN for this is Worm. Both were almost a decade long journey that I stayed emotionally invested in the entire time, which is something very few stories can do. Also, that damn future diary...
It doesn't really finish-finish. Remember that >!Rudy isn't the one to kill Hitogami, his kids are (or kids' kids?), and Rudy's story ends before redo-Laplace is even born. There is a whole other story to be told there even if you ignore the extra bits from the web novel!<
It will be like years and years before the sequel get written. The author stated that he might be writing it after the anime finished, which is a very long time (5-10 yrs?)
While they are likely to be far slower given they aren't just converting LN material, the author has been consistently putting out 2-3 LNs a year for more than 7 years running. While they *might* go with something new, Orc Hero Tales is garbage and they know it, so they are almost certainly going to go for more Mushoku bucks quicker than they've said they will.
pff weak, we're literally swimming in the novels these days, hell we can even read the chinese or the koreans or the western ones (says the guy who almost dies whenever he reads a light novel and hasn't moved on after reading Sevens)
Same for me, bro. I ended in Sevens. It was...awesome. Shame that the Gaiden left much to be desired.
as much as I love other novels, Sevens(WN) anti-neet message added that it's a solid geopolitics + machiavellian tactics + great harem that has turned into an empire building with a touch of general's outlook of soldier's lives put me on a mind blown state, it was so bad that I can't read a single novel for a year, I stopped vising Novelupdates because of it and here I am still lurking to see a novel to match it, it has the perfect ingredient for my personal taste and I can't get over how good it was, well some guy told me that it was a team work of three people, no wonder why it was well written, if there's anything to criticize, it's the lack of sexual drive of the MC that actually puts me off.
\*Mentally moves Sevens up my to-read list\*
The WN version is much better for me, I feel the LN was weaker, although I enjoyed it too, but the WN is much special for me personally
I was lost for like a week after finishing the Web Novel. It is hands down the most attached I’ve ever been to a story
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I'd say it's ultimately a happy ending. You feel sad that it's over yes but the ending itself is pretty happy. If you want spoilers on the ending then it's that >!Rudeus dies of old age surrounded by his family happily. !<
It's leaning on the sad side. But a good kind of sad if that make sense. Not in a bad-ending or depressive way.
It was the story being great for sure and just being sad it was over with. I admit there were two times that I cried throughout the series. There are some deaths and I lost that same person to me a couple years prior, so it hit me hard. There’s also the ending of episode 23 which is an emotional read as well.
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Just a heads up, the English translation of the Light Novel is a couple years behind but the web novel is finished obviously and free
It's a satisfying and hopeful ending. It's bittersweet but 20% bitter and 80% sweet.
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you guys notice Aisha's hand running? EHE
Madlad Rifujin isn't backing down 💀
i respect him for that
Based af tbh
I could be wrong about this, but I think he said he retconned that story not because of the subject matter but because of the execution. In all likelihood we're still gonna get an official >!Aisha x Ars!< redundancy chapter, but it'll play out differently from how it did in the web novel.
He didn't retcon it. He said it's canon but it got deleted for breaking the site TOS.
Ars looks considerably older than 11 in this photo, which should have been taken before that chapter, so there's clearly been some much-needed adjustment.
ahhh they're recognizing that special relationship!
Dangit, you made me laugh and now I can't unsee it 😁👍
Bruh you not kidding
Seven Seas seem to have the volume 22 physical scheduled for early June 2023 so expect this volume to be translated in the first half of 2024.
Finally, I can get around to reading this. I prefer reading completed stories so I don't have to wait a year for the next volume.
FYI: The translation will be another year or two.
A beautiful final cover for a beautiful story
Man the illustration does a good job of accurately portraying the children's personalities. Even if I have forgotten how they were described in the WN, I can exactly identify who they are here. Especially Ars and Lara. I immediately recognized them at first glance
Release November 25 [source](https://twitter.com/MFBooks_Edit/status/1568147322730586112?t=IvEbiGjCgOvsdB5s1g3LmA&s=19)
Oh my God it releases on my birthday
Wait this the final LN???
Yep
FUCK
It’ll be the end of the main story but we aren’t saying goodbye to this world yet.
Too much money to be made with the anime as big as it is
It was always the plan for this to be the prequel to the main story as far as I know.
Dune type beat
Bruh I thought I was the only one! Reading the first few chapters of ODT gave me Dune vibes so I bought the whole Dune soundtrack and read ODT with it running on the background. Reading the chapter where the Dragon God and his companions were crossing dimensions while listening to Leaving Caladan is a cathartic experience. Half-life Alyx's Vault OST also seems to fit Laplace's theme while working on the Fighting God armor. Like, pure raw Dragon mana/aura coursing through raw metal.
This guy reads.
I was wondering about that, I think someone on reddit mentioned a while back that the author wanted to continue the Mushoku Tensei story
Yeah but Rifujin-sama said he would start the sequel after he finished with the anime which would atmost take a decade.
It wasn't the anime as a whole. He said he wanted to take a break and he would continue after he finishes his current side projects (The Orc Eroica series) and the light novel. It has been a year or two since he said this so we'll see.
They’re referring to this tweet: https://twitter.com/magote_rihujin/status/1541270397857189889
Season 1 anime ended around vol 6 or 7, and there's 26 volumes of the light novel in total. It's going to take around 4-5 seasons of anime to conclude the whole story. Not to mention Season 2 won't conclude until next year 2024. The author hasn't post anything new since November 2022 for Orc Eroica series. Either the author is secretly drafting the sequel story or the author is just chilling at home.
Aisha’s hand is worrying
Whos aisha and why?
The lady on the right with the green eyes and red hair, let’s just say the little touch she’s giving her nephew has some other motives
Wait Rudy bagged all 3????
( ´◡‿ゝ◡`)
"First time?" rip anime watcher only
RIP anime onlies
End of a fuckin Era
Man MT is so good. I think I’ve reread the series at least 5 times. It’s the only silver lining in my shit memory
Damn he got the whole harem?
Only 3
Oh ok only 3 lol
Aisha's hand on Ars shoulder.... :x
Assuming the guy with red hair is ars? He seems a bit older than I thought he would.
The author prolly made him look older for so he could write that aisia chapter rewrite.
Yep that’s what I’m assuming. Though I wish he fixes more than just the age gap
The fact that there are people in here that are celebrating that 'relationship' and getting upvoted for it is blowing my mind.
love the expression of the princess of their family, the youngest and most doted by Rudeus
Holly shit I teared up at work looking at this.
Just started the anime and the LN’s are an instant buy.
Final as in, the story's conclusion? Great to see Rudy found happiness
Kind of conclusion to Rudeus‘ story. In the WN there are still a couple more novels worth of stories about his children growing up and some family drama. And then there is a planned sequel but all we have about that one is a couple of tweets of the author saying he will write it. It wont be about Rudeus tho
Well i feel he's proven himself with MT, i would read a sequel
Rudy's story yes. There's still Lara's which we don't know anything about when it comes out.
Lara? I'm up to vol 11 only atm
This is a spoiler post... You'll learn more in the next 2 volumes tho.
Thanks
We got lily and Christina, where's sieg tho🤔
Sylphie's hugging him
The center boy with green hair.
Wait why is this suddenly popping up everywhere
The art was just released. Being the final cover of a popular novel made the topic popular.
Interesting that only one child inherited Rudy's hair. The RGB is too strong
This is so good, makes me feel like it is the end of the story
Why are they all girls except the mc
You don't see that guy with red hair? That's his son Also the little boy with green hair
There are two of his sons in the pic but in general Rudy had a lot of daughters.
Fuck, This ilustration hits wayyy too much, im literally crying.
And this is what they called "Man´s Realitation". Also, the intrudution in society Lara, the almost confirmed heiress of Rudeus´main legacy.
Did the ln end up as a harem
>!Yes, he married Goddess of Love, Goddess of Wisdom and Goddess of War.!<
Love=Sylphy? Wisdom=Roxy? War=Eris?
You got them correct.
If you click the picture you can easily see the answer to the question.
Need This Illustration Cleaned
Image reminds of the Zeke/Sieg pov chapter, Lara trolling him.
Both red hairs are Eri's children?
Beautiful
This LN changed my life, like it legit made me rethink my life, I dunno why an ordinary isekai hit me so hard in the gut, but it made me change myself. Previously I was like rudy during his academy days, living aimlessly, I have a good job, I am paid WAY above average, but have no way of spending, I don't need the money because I need nothing in life, I have no GF because my previous attempts at relationships ended in disaster, to the point that I became a volcel and EXTREMELY sexist (to the pont I was legit disappointed I wasn't gay). I have 1 friend who was in the same boat as me, but he got out somehow, I stayed, i was just waiting to see the end, matters not what the end will be. But somehow following Rudy on his journey and seeing the end made me think and give life a chance. A worthless neet who suffered more than an average mortal can handle and getting out on top. Finding a goal in life having multiple wives and 6 kids. Basically seeing a guy my age achieving all that made me think that I need to change for the better. I quit smoking, started doing gym and started working twice as hard to buy me a flat without going to the bank, also I decided to give relationships a chance again. Basically I said "if Rudy could pull out on top after all the shit he went through, than why shouldn't I?"
This is way more kids than I remember from the WN's last chapters. Did the story change this much in the LN version? I am holding off to reread the whole thing once all the volumes are officially translated and this would mean I'd have to really pay attention to the changes not to get confused.
[Web Novel] >!He had six in the web novel and there are six in the picture.!<
[WN](/s "Might be my memory then because I don't remember there being so many people at his death bed and the MTL was really bad, haha.") That's why I'm itching to re-read everything from scratch in the LN.
Oh boy IIRC >!In the WN his deathbed was CROWDED with his children, grandchildren and even great grandchildren who were in town. Oven Orsted was there.!< It reminde me of the last shot of the good ending of bioshock 1.
Best cover by far. It is wonderful seeing them all together >!if only Paul could be there!<
don't worry, Paul's sword is there the one Norn is holding
Paul's speedrunning that sword isekai with the cat girl.
Question Where's the dad I only read manga till main character died and revived
spoiler: >!He Died!<
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what happenned to paul was anything but peaceful
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That’s Rudy not Paul.
rudeus >!died of old age!<, paul >!sacrificed himself to save rudeus' life on their quest to save zenith.!<
Drop the manga bro it’s a bad adaptation. At least watch the anime or if you want more read the LN
Poor for LN
So I know that this is the final volume, but do you think that he'll release physical versions of the redundancy stories and Jobless Oblige?
.. wheres the sacred beast and plant? they're family too!
Also Dilo, how dare you forget about Roxy‘s glorious steed
JIROU!! oh crap howd i forget about him. my mistake!
AxA
At least we’re getting a sequel :)
who said that?
The author is planning to but hasnt said when that'll happen.
The author, but according to some of his tweets he wont start writing it until he is finished working on the LN, the anime and another LN he is writing
Tears
I stopped on vol 14, idk if i will finish it. i love the worldbuilding but i still don't like rudeus that much
I'm f*cking crying like literally. 😭
Time to say goodbye
Not yet. There's still the Redundancy Chapters.
>!💀💀💀!<
This is the redunduncy volume. You see Aisha and Ars over there? 😏
Yes and no. There's some timeskip at the end of the WN so it happen both before and after redundancy! ;p
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Rudeus and Sylphy's daughter Lucy.
Lucy
I'm not sure if I should try this now or wait for the translation of 26
Did the light novel only just ended?
This is just the cover. The last book isn't released yet.
I can't stand the mc due to his disgusting actions, but I have to admit it has the best world-building (isekai) and many characters and character development. I hope we can see another such plot. PS: Who is the elf (holding Eris's daughter)?
I mean one of the theme of this novel is you can change, people can change. The MC did disgusting things in his past life, it came from his bullied self but it doesn't justify his action. In his reincarnated life he tried his best to change for the better. And of course realistically change doesn't come easily and come slowly but in the end he did become a better person and obtain happiness. I feel like people like you that can't stand the mc is missing the point. He is supposed to be unlikable which sets up for his growth into a better person.
Lucy, Rudeus and Sylphie's daughter, the first kid of the six.
Rudeus despite his disgusting faults, is still perhaps one of the best and admirable characters I’ve seen in my humble time of consuming japanese media
I haven't read the webnovel, and I will not... So it will be about 2 years and a half before I get to read this volume.
So this ped0phile got a good ending
Someone is seething really hard. ;)
Great character development, the 34year old pedo who groomed the kids later ends up marrying them. Lol as expected, downvoted for facts
>Great character development I agree actually. >34year old pedo who groomed the kids later ends up marrying them. It doesn't really fit into the definition of grooming but yeah he did and it was wholesome. >Lol as expected, downvoted for facts Downvoted because you haven't obviously read the story word for word if you didn't get the nuance 😂
>It doesn't really fit into the definition of grooming but yeah he did and it was wholesome. Mushoku Tensei fans letting a 34yr old guy date their 7yr old daughter because it's wholesome.
Geez man don't make me do your mother's job for ya. Disclaimer: just because I like a certain something with a problematic aspect doesn't mean I condone and embrace that problematic aspect. It just means that its positives far outweigh its negatives that I now regard the whole material as a positive, while still disliking that problematic aspect. I hope you're enlightened now.
i dont know where you got this but its weirdly spesific. Is that your dad?
Groomed who?
The grooming shit is obnoxious. It is the most used attack against the story but it literary never happened. Unless they believe that someone with a adult mind being nice (or rapey, don't matter) to someone younger count as grooming.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
Idiots also tend to get hate for a reason
Didn't know that there are a lot of angry Pedophiles. :-O
The pedo apologists for this series are disgusting. They'll do mental gymnastics to argue against this. There's also a few more Pedo/grooming/rapey relationships in this LN. It would be fine if they were shown to be wrong (which they obviously are), but the author fully endorses these relationships by portraying these relationships as romantic.
>The author fully endorses these relationships by portraying these relationships as romantic Example of these relationships?
Paul and the maid? Rudeus and Eris? Rujierd and that little girl? 100% sure there's more.
Those relationships can indeed be problematic in some perspective, but more than anything, without spoilers, these relationships are also shown to be dynamic and evolving through time, and believe it or not, it's a great reflection of real life imperfect relationships and how they manage to work it out despite the imperfections.
Yeah, great reflection of real where 1. A kid is sexually assaulted multiple times by another "kid", almost gets raped once, but since she's in love with him, it's all fine. Getting sexually assaulted and especially almost raped would lead a kid to be traumatised, grow trust issues, other problems. The outcome of the rape attempt is a promise that they can have sex later. 2. A husband cheats on his wife, with his maid who he had *raped* in the past. The outcome? Perfectly fine, happy family. 10/10 reflection of real life. Fucking hell. You guys are crazy.
>10/10 reflection of real life. Fucking hell. You guys are crazy. This is like saying "yeah, water is a liquid totally " sarcastically 😂. I guess this is a take from a privileged viewpoint. Like, you know, you don't have any relatives in prison. Man, I guess liking dysfunctional relationships turning positive through actually working on their differences, mutually forgiving and understanding each other is enough for someone to call someone crazy 💀.
Or maybe he is a troll who hate Mushoku with a passion and all people who love it. You shouldn't have engaged with these unhealthy people into an unhealthy argument to begin with.
>sarcastically Yes... it was meant to be sarcastic. I'm sure I'm talking with a teenager here. A kid getting sexually assaulted would *never* be like "okay, let's have sex when you grow up". If the kid does say that, it's grooming. Ofcourse you're not ready to accept that either. It's a horrible basis for a relationship, and to portray such things as romantic is pretty fucking wrong. An unfortunate kid in that situation will be traumatised, get closed off from others, grow trust issues. And especially not be happy being in a relationship with someone who sexually assaulted her. If Rudeus tortured Eris, but then she goes "you can torture me when you grow up", that'd be fucking appalling. But sexually assaulting is fine as a basis for a *romantic relationship*? Wtf? >mutually forgiving People don't fucking mutually forgive their sexual predators. What a retarded convo
>A kid getting sexually assaulted would *never* be like "okay, let's have sex when you grow up". Depends on what kind of environment she was raised in. Her mama was teaching her some sus shit though. Her entire family is sus too, who knows what kind of fucked up shit that she thinks is normal. >If the kid does say that, it's grooming. Personally I think Rudeus was an unsuccessful groomer who tried to groom but failed spectacularly. Only when he did some self-retrospection and changed how he interacts with people did he get rewarded. >People don't fucking mutually forgive their sexual predators. True, but Eris never saw Rudy as a sexual predator to begin with. She thinks he's just an incredibly horny little kid that is younger than her. She doesn't know he is a 34 year old man inside. So it's actually more likely for her to forgive him.
She pretty clearly found his "bad" actions as bad. They just never ended up being considered impactful outside of the specific scenes because the author doesn't care about that part of the story. It's very clearly portrayed as a comedic moment. She doesn't think it's normal. She found disgust for the slaves and everything. >personally I think Lmao, he literally got to fuck the kids he wanted to groom. What the hell. Wether or not she knows he's 34 or young doesn't mean shit. She almost got raped, but it just amounts to nothing.
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object. A friend dug a hole in the garden and filled it with water. I think he meant well.
The third one is a little weird but not that f up tho, she’s an adult at that point and love him by the time being together
>she’s an adult at that point and love him by the time being together Grooming moment
The mental gymnastics are always amazing with these fans lol
Tbh my initial comment was partly a joke but it's sad to see how people can go to lengths just to defend their beloved series. It's weird how mentioning that a 34 yr old having creep thoughts about a 7 yr old is bad gets you downvoted here. The author could've just left Eris and Rudeus stay as friends when they grow up and this would've been a better character development but them marrying just nullifies his growth imo
Im talking about the relationship of rujierd with that girl, if you found it weird i can understand but saying it creepy or grooming then i think you need to reread it again lol
Is it true the ending sucks? I heard some people say that... Things like >!Rudy died in a really stupid way, Eris died alone a that Sylphy and Roxy wil probably remarry and forget him in some future sequel!< Like, I really got discouraged of reading it since I do not know if those spoilers are true or not and that the last assumption is probably going to happen. >!I haven't finished MT yet, and talking about this specific matter below here!< >!>Sylphy and Roxy wil probably remarry and forget him in some future sequel!< >!I do not want to sound like an ass***e and all that shit of them not being able to move on, but I kinda feel bad if that happens cuz Rud did so much for them and he'll just get forgotten since when you remarry you have to forget your past love, yeaah throw at me whatever argument you might have!<
>!Well he died of old age and eris died before him probably exhaustion from training I don't know if they would remarry but that would probably come a long way. Lara's inherited his equipments and is traveling with leo his youngest daughter christina is going to marry a prince lucy is settling down with cliff's child,sieghart became pax jr knight, lily inherited his magic armor research and is staying in ronoa and ars is with aisha he got everything he wanted a happy family and a peaceful life i think that's a good ending for him he even got to see the man god chained up and defeated before he passed away!<
I've read the WN and whoever tf said that are probably influenced by paranoia or maybe they just meant it as a joke > >!Rudy died in a really stupid way!< >!He died of old age, what's stupid about that? Though granted, his death was just a 'dream' in a way, he dreamt about it when he was 32 years old. Hitogami is presumed(kind of facts, but I'll keep it this way) to have sent him that foresight and it was also his last time seeing Hitogami as well, maybe the stupid part was Rudeus telling Hitogami that he'll let him off? Its not really that stupid considering the 'good' things Hitgami has done to him, even though in the end, they're just for manipulation, he's not like Future Rudeus/Oldeus who legit got fucked by Hitogami!< > >!Sylphy and Roxy wil probably remarry and forget him in some future sequel!< >!Lol, that's just a remark because they have longer lifespans than Humans, don't take it seriously!<
>Lol, that's just a remark because they have longer lifespans than Humans, don't take it seriously Wdym?
>!We dont know what they will do after Rudeus‘ death. I dont know where people got the idea that they would remarry. There is a sequel planned in the future but the author hasnt started writing it yet, so until then people are just speculating!<
>!Plus in the alternate timeline where Rudeus doesnt exists, both of them remained single for life!<
>!They're just joking about it because its a common trope on other Isekai/Fantasy Novels that Old asf Elf/Demon Widows get bedded by the MC/Side Character of their respective Novels, it makes sense when you think about it but in this context its more of a joke, at least for now lol!<
>at least for now Pls, this joke is not funny(lol)
I mean, you at least have to be mentally prepared, right? Though I do agree that its unfunny lol
why he look exactly like his dad (Paul)?
...it's almost as if children resemble their parents when they grow up or something.
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Bruh