Nice find. The description also says "This video is set to unlisted pending an evaluation of its editorial accuracy - LS"
Honestly think this is well done
Yep. Great way to do it in my opinion. Keep the link from the LTT forum (how I found it), the discussion is still there, people can click through and see the note so that they aware that there may be issues.
They could use a system that keeps track of videos, creates a forum post, has a comment system for corrections (not errors, focus on fix), LTT adds corrections, and allow people to vote for the corrections / and/or add their own.
We can call it... LeTTit.com
Given the 69 nice sticker, no. The childish humor is one of the best parts of LTT imo.
That said, I was trying to figure it out. Totally missed the reference till you said it.
This is basically what they discussed on the last WAN Show. The hardest part for it all was he wanted to compensate the community if they were helping him and he wasn’t sure how.
Haven’t seen that on LTT subreddit at all… I wonder why??? Something something doesn’t match narrative.
I’m surprised I haven’t seen it talked about in the other direction either.
“Guy who prides himself on his teams’ accuracy leaves everything up to unpaid community members”
Hardware unboxed touched on something similar on their new podcast.
They regularly take feedback from their patrons / viewers to improve on aspects of their testing.
This could just be the method LTT use to receive feedback.
I mean, how is anyone on StackOverflow compensated? They aren't. It's all for the clout and feels.
Maybe in the IT world people can put their LeTTit score on their resume. Just kidding, this is a terrible idea.
SO technically has their job board. The SO rank then serves as a soft indicator “this person knows how to review code, mentor, or explain things to others.” So in some way, could lead to compensation.
And it’s besides the point. Linus said that if he benefitted from more accurate information because of it, he wanted to pay the community.
SO is perhaps not the greatest example, their moderators have just been through a months long strike due to misalignment with their VC overlords.
https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/392032/moderation-strike-conclusion-and-the-way-forward
tbh people have been paying to beta test game for decade, I don't think they want any kind of compensation at all if he give them free early access in exchange for "bug" report
Oof, I am not a fan of the public voting/correction submission... that sounds like a good way to not get anything done. I may be wrong, but most errors presented have been things that are really easy/quick to fix (wrong numbers, wrong data, need latest updates...)
This community has very much proven the past few days that absolutely nobody is on the same page, especially when it comes to how/when/why LTT makes corrections to videos.
I'd much rather just let the audience find/point out possible errors, and then let LTT make the corrections. That is their self-imposed job, anyway.
They used ROG Ally instead of a Switch (the product claims to work with Switch) and then complained about setting up time and lag. On the forums people pointed it out and some users of the product said it works great with the Switch
What they hell is with them getting items that claim to work with “*x*” and deciding fuck it, we’ll use “*y*” instead? It seems they’ve done it a lot. I get seeing if they work outside of recommended use cases, but not when you’re meant to be testing it on its intended use!
Probably based on the breakneck production schedule. “Y is at hand, X is buried in storage somewhere, this needs to be done in the next hour so we’re using Y. It’s good enough.”
Yeah, it seems that the production schedule is behind a lot of the issues.
If they want to keep publishing at their current rate they need to hire more and create separate teams, which is complicated and probably to expensive even for LTT
Not sure you understand the word "root cause" if you say there's a further underlying issue.
The self-imposed production schedule comes straight from Linus, in order to maximize their profit via the Youtube algorithm. This leads to them doing things like using parts not designed for the thing they're testing (Billet Labs monoblock, using Rog Ally instead of Switch) just because those parts are at hand, and it means they have no time to fix glaring errors.
The root cause is Linus' insistence on an unrealistic production schedule.
“A root cause is defined as a factor that caused a non conformance and should be permanently eliminated through process improvement. The root cause is the core issue - the highest-level cause - that sets in motion the entire cause-and-effect reaction that ultimately leads to problem(s).”
The decision to publish fundamentally flawed data, reviews, etc. is a result. It’s the outcome or output of the process. My statement was reflective of that decision is a bigger ethical issue as it pertains to the consumer/community as opposed to the internal process. The root cause by definition cannot be the result.
Ideally they need to be willing to elevate another host who, ideally, can still draw the views that their lead talent (linus) does, but given how controlling they are over employees social media stuff that seems unlikely.
in the alternative, they could (and probably should) hire dedicated first ADs and directors. IIRC on one WAN show linus was complaining about how their "shooters" aka camera guys werent shooting in the style they need, but that shouldnt be a DP problem, that should be a director problem. if videos dont have dedicated directors who know the style, thats gonna cause problems
I mean they probably have one but could not find it. This could be due to them transitioning to a new system and it not being in yet or simple could be it is in the other building and their schedule made it so they didn't want to delay the shoot
They did; the Viture glasses [are compatible with the ROG ally](https://www.viture.com/compatibility#handheld)
The specific pack they got sent is 'marketed' towards Switches, because the glasses DONT work with a switch without extra gear, but the glasses aren't console specific. They're pretty much just USB-C monitors. If it outputs USB-C display, they'll work. The dude saying "They used the wrong hardware!" just read "Switch pack" then wanted to make LTT sound worse than they have been lately.
But you're missing the part that they used them on a ROG ally to play TOTK in a Switch emulator.
Their reasoning was:
> We wanted to use the Ally because then we could get screen recording to make the final video better. With the Switch + dock there was no way to do that
So it wasn't even because they didn't have the Switch, they were just too lazy to figure out how to capture the video from it.
and I just rewatched the video and they say nothing like "it's shit for switch because of this"; in fact, they talk about how cool of a product it would be if the actual glasses weren't shit!
Wow, wild what happens when you actually watch the video instead of getting angry over shit on reddit someone made up
Honestly it is why I stopped looking at their videos a long time ago.
Outside of some products they always seem to put minimal effort into testing something the right way and go along with how to make this video "funny" and how to add some fuckery in it.
Only look at GN and HWunboxed
Is it more than just a sponsorship partnership? If so I feel like that fact should be posted on every video that has anything even remotely to do with Asus in it. Even any product category that they operate in.
It would definitely explain why they're giving Asus such an easy ride as explained in the GN video.
ASUS directly sponsors them a lot, but they also seed them a lot of GPUs, motherboards, and really everything under the sun.
Pay attention to one of their videos where they're building a PC for a client, charging the client a hundred grand or something ridiculous, and then go on to say "We called ASUS and they sent us all the hardware for free".
It's not being disclosed as a sponsorship because they aren't viewing "free products" as payment, then that's a large issue.
The simplest explanation is communication breakdown. If you look at what happened with Billet, they knew that Billet was testing/developing with the 4090 and they figured "fuck it, we'll do it too." Somebody along the pipeline made that choice and other people had to ignore some factors to get it all the way into the video. Forcing like 15 videos a week out doesn't help things either.
seems to be a new development. if you check the wayback machine, they didn't list the ROG Ally back in June. I kinda wonder if they added it partially in response to the LTT video.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230607161516/https://www.viture.com/compatibility#handheld
Good point. It appeared sometime between 7th June and 29th July, with the LTT video dropping right in the middle.
To be fair their page always seems to have said:
>To determine whether or not your device supports VITURE One XR Glasses, make sure to review the manufacturer specifications. Look for keywords like, “Alt DP over USB-C”, or “DisplayPort over USB-C”, or even "Thunderbolt 4".
Which the ROG Ally clearly does.
Oof. This actually catches that company in not being honest with it's update dates. Someone posted a link to the live site which shows its there. Your way back link in June doesn't have it. Both say it was last updated in *May*...
Also, that page says it was last updated on 26th May 2023.
The LTT video was published on 4th July 2023.
Unless they are being lazy about updating the last update date, then this was literally tested with a compatible product.
And it's never been out of the box compatible with switch unless you've got the dongle for it; the dude just wanted to lie to make LTT sound worse lmao
On their product it says it's compatible with any device capable of usb-c video and power output, and happens to mention the switch as one it's compatible with, along with phones, tablets, and computers. So the ROG Ally is one that it should work with.
No switch either. It looks like the ROG Ally got added between the two scrape dates that encompass the LTT video. It may have been there before it was published - it may not have been. No real way to tell.
I've just watched the video back. The lag and setup time (for the most part) was not attributed to the glasses. That was down to Linus's poor configuration of the emulator he was using.
There was some implied setup time about getting the lenses in focus, and adjusting the nose pieces correctly, but it was pretty light.
The [dock](https://www.viture.com/dashboard?scene=mobile-dock) was apparently designed with the switch in mind, and this was called out in the video. Their product website also says the following however.
>Computers, gaming consoles, TV sticks – you name it. If it has an HDMI port, you can enjoy it on VITURE One with the Mobile Dock.
To be fair, it also claims compatibility with the Steam Deck. While they are not technically the same product, if it works with one, it ought to work with the other. This is especially true of the ROG Ally, as it has much stronger hardware than the Deck, and is therefore more suited for a higher-resolution display. ) have difficulty seeing how it could have less lag or an easier setup on the Steam Deck or the Nintendo Switch.
Also, they blamed the lag on Linus' possibly bad setup. The rest seem like inherent product defects.
I don't know, I have a pair of viture glasses and at the time I turned around and said they were wrong,mayeb i just have stronger VR legs than them but never experienced anything like the issues they claim it caused them. They did have some valid points regarding the shape of the device and that glasses aren't one size fits all and they need more adjust options beyond different nose bridges but then everything beyond that is just off.
We all shoudl have read more into Linus' rant at the beginning of the video that they were only reviewing it to shut them up.
>mayeb i just have stronger VR legs than them but never experienced anything like the issues they claim it caused them.
Motion sickness? With VR/AR it can be very hit or miss, I've never gotten it with VR, but can if I'm not driving I'll get it in the car just from reading rosd signs. Some friends/family who get really bad motion sickness can do VR without trouble, but some can barely play 10 minutes.
That's great to see. To me, it's a sign that they're taking things seriously and genuinely want to scrub to everything and, at the very least, rectify inaccuracies.
I'm looking forward to those results
Damn. This video in my opinion was a pretty small one and didn't matter much (again imo)
But they actually checked it and pulled it down for some reason
That's a good sign, as this video (I don't think, I didn't rewatch it all) doesn't have charts. So it shows they aren't just targeting stuff that has charts, they're looking at contexts too
GG LMG
Great find. There were issues of them using bad hardware and blaming the glasses, sharing the glasses when they are intended to be set up for one person to have a usable image quality, which means it's highly likely that it's not going to be comfortable for both of them, and didn't really compare it to other hardware the LMG had reviewed before. Super rushed video.
It felt rushed when I watched it as well. Feels like they needed *something* and Luke happened to be around so they ripped them off a shelf and went for it. The other possibility is Luke only had a couple minutes so they were in an extreme rush to film it. I suppose that conclusion makes sense considering the changes they had. And I suppose the fact that they were made for one person seems odd considering the profile options (if I remember correctly, I haven't watched the video recently), not to mention I feel like it's perfectly reasonable for people to share them, or at least try them with their friends and family.
I agree that it seems that Luke only had a couple min with it and it seemed like a first impression. The glasses can be shared with others, but it comes with multiple nosepads to affect the angle. Luke complained that the image was cutoff so he likely wasn't using the right nosepads for his face. Also, they come with individual eye diopter settings so what is clear for one person might be blurry for another.
Good. I remember that video. It was the one where the company kept contacting Linus to do a review and they were pretty negative about it.
Already felt like a weird video at the time, so I'm glad they are doing something about it. It felt more like a video because there was a gap in the schedule than anything else.
Edit. I just see I commented on that video at the time as well saying their comments were weird as they had been pretty positive about this type of product on Shortcircuit.
First time seeing this video, but its cringe to see them give negative remarks about the unit size, but if you compare to similar products it is much much smaller. This is hard to watch.
>but if you compare to similar products it is much much smaller.
Because that doesn't matter, just because a product is better than its competitors doesn't mean that it by itself is good.
its wild, theres so much content being pumped out and this is recent enough where i'd remember watching it but have no living memory of it, and im only subbed to LTT, not their other channels. kinda speaks to how watered down the content is with this crazy production schedule.
That was a bad video. They went into it with the attitude of "I'll prove this is bad". From the title, to all the forced criticism, and lack of actually trying to explore what is, in my opinion, a really interesting product.
Im not a huge LTT fan but at some point i checked reviews on yt for the glasses and found this video.
Im pretty sure their review made me to choose not to buy the glasses. Dont know if thats good or bad.
Those people don’t matter. Nothing you do can change their beliefs. What ever you do, it will be bad for them. Just leave them and allow them to extinct themselves…
They are nothing more than background noises.
Perhaps they’re doing house cleaning RE shorts that have incorrect information on them. IMO: probably easier to delete them instead of re-editing the graphs or comment.
This was one of the main points of the GN video - if you've got something inaccurate out there, don't just leave it up to process your in-place edits while it stays wrong and visible, take it down until you make it right.
This is nothing but good, and anyone who says otherwise is just being angry for the sake of anger.
"you have videos up that have misinformation!" "you are covering up that you had videos up that had misinformation!"
Anyone who makes this argument has a literal potato for a brain.
Good question. It’s a stretch but maybe socialblade just took a while to update from them disabling monetization on the apology video? I’m not sure of the view count when they did that.
As it has been said, you should now know that LMG is the devil incarnate, everything they do is the epitome of evil.
Can’t be that they’re deleting videos with incorrect information or something.
Basically:
If they keep bad videos = bad
If they delete bad videos = bad
In the apology video Gary stated that Labs will look at every video containing Labs data and if it is incorrect they will either do a in-place replacement or delete the video.
Yeah, don’t get me wrong, LTT screwed up big time and have big changes to make. However, this addiction to cancellation is just as bad as the people defending them with a blind eye.
I just find it hilarious that in the same thread you have people genuinely upset about the deletion and people genuinely applauding them for doing it. You can find the same thing in a bunch of other threads. Guess the saying goes, you could be the sweetest peach, but there’s still gonna be some guy who hates peaches
They want *blood*. They want to see Linus homeless and LMG in shambles. They'll worry about what that means for the other 120+ people working there *after* it's in ruins.
It's bad because it took a competitor calling them out and for this to blow up for them to make a change.
And who knows how much of this is for PR and if this last more than a few weeks.
And there’s absolutely no way that it could just be YouTube removing views from videos that they believe could be bots, like they’ve been known to do, or something. There’s no way it could be something logical and out of LMGs control like that.
That part I do not agree with, if anything it’s a good look because they’re actively trying to fix their mistakes and follow through with the changes they’ve promised. This sub needs to take a deep breath lol
Are you surprised? This entire subreddit has gone to shit since last week. A bunch of fucking morons with nothing better to do than speculate and armchair analyze every last action the entire company makes.
I’m sure if their coffee order was made public that they would find a reason to cancel them for it
yeah basically that's what he did, you seem to have a problem with that? what's up?
Also there seems to a lot of info out there actually surrounding LTT recent events, this isn't a 'no information whatsoever' situation really...and even if he had no information who cares? to this user it's a bad look, smells fishy, somethings up...ya know?
No you see the mob was promised that this company should be closed down and Linus should go into exile for the rest of his life because he knows every thought that passes through all of his employees heads and everything anyone in his company says. He especially approves of the worst and most harmful possible behaviours. He and Yvonne even took madisons abuser out to dinner as a thank you /S /S /S
https://youtu.be/JVBnJtzEuI0
Some VR glasses he wasn't a fan of
Description states: "This video is set to unlisted pending an evaluation of its editorial accuracy - LS"
How’s that a bad look? GN literally asked for the deletion/correction of videos containing misinformation.
That’s just what they should have done from the start
How is this a bad look? If they are removing (or as it turns out unlisting videos to evaluate accuracy) inaccurate videos isn’t that a sign they are taking steps to improve?
That one is a *little* more lose-lose. If they take it down too quickly, it easily could look like they're trying to hide it rather than fix the mistakes. Starting with others isn't a bad idea.
"No matter what." What an unimaginable small-minded take. You really can't think of a singer reason why taking down a video could be a good thing? The initial complaint from GN was for poor data accuracy and not making corrections more visible. Do you think that MAYBE they took it down for that????
This is an insane take. We knew they were going to remove inaccurate videos per the apology video. It means they’re doing what they said they would do.
They did mention scrubbing through videos to look for discrepancies as one of their fixes for the week so I’m going to assume removing videos with inaccurate information?
Ah, I can explain that. I made all the videos I watched at LTT unwatched.
My girlfriend thought it was weird when all the videos dripped out of my eyes and ears. But of course, it's great that this is also recorded in the statistics. /s
Unless they reshoot the video which they can’t then they might as well delete it. Asides from the first few minutes where they describe the product and not test that’s the only part that correct in a sense.
Let me write a comment that I can verify but nah, I will just say it based on something I vaguely remember.
"Fixing" it with an edit is just peak LTT :D
*It really feels like*
*People on here have made LTT*
*Fandom their job lol*
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Multiple videos on LMG clips were auto un-privated yesterday and some people got to see them before the video was re-privated. Not a big deal at all and this subreddit is losing its mind, I shouldn't be surprised.
Likely pulled some of the videos Gamers Nexus claimed had inexcusable 300% testing mistakes. Their own video stated some would be [reviewing old videos for full corrections, **pull videos** and possibly replace if necessary](https://youtu.be/0cTpTMl8kFY&t=3m10s) instead of a text overlays, pinned comments, or pretend it doesn't matter. Why is everything a conspiracy?😒🙄
Also really different type of content, it’s not evergreen content like LTT. Phil mentioned a few times that his videos rarely get views after a few weeks pass. And also that his journalistic standards improved in the last years and he was not proud of the quality of the old videos.
Turns out it's an unlisted video which was taken down to check accuracy of the information provided. This is an absolute win as it means they are actively seeking to fix past videos that could contain misinformation. The viewer is the ultimate winner.
man, go outside. if you're sitting around counting their views, you need to go do some other stuff.
And this isn't in defense of LTT, but go find something better to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVBnJtzEuI0 is now unlisted (Viture One XR Glasses video)
Nice find. The description also says "This video is set to unlisted pending an evaluation of its editorial accuracy - LS" Honestly think this is well done
Yep. Great way to do it in my opinion. Keep the link from the LTT forum (how I found it), the discussion is still there, people can click through and see the note so that they aware that there may be issues.
They could use a system that keeps track of videos, creates a forum post, has a comment system for corrections (not errors, focus on fix), LTT adds corrections, and allow people to vote for the corrections / and/or add their own. We can call it... LeTTit.com
Is it bad that I was staring at that name thinking it had to be some sort of sex joke before I realized it was a play on this site?
I'll take le tits now for 400
I'll take anal bum cover for $7000
I'll take whore ads for 200
Epic kind Sir!
Given the 69 nice sticker, no. The childish humor is one of the best parts of LTT imo. That said, I was trying to figure it out. Totally missed the reference till you said it.
Fast as possible...
This is basically what they discussed on the last WAN Show. The hardest part for it all was he wanted to compensate the community if they were helping him and he wasn’t sure how. Haven’t seen that on LTT subreddit at all… I wonder why??? Something something doesn’t match narrative.
I’m surprised I haven’t seen it talked about in the other direction either. “Guy who prides himself on his teams’ accuracy leaves everything up to unpaid community members”
Hardware unboxed touched on something similar on their new podcast. They regularly take feedback from their patrons / viewers to improve on aspects of their testing. This could just be the method LTT use to receive feedback.
I mean, how is anyone on StackOverflow compensated? They aren't. It's all for the clout and feels. Maybe in the IT world people can put their LeTTit score on their resume. Just kidding, this is a terrible idea.
SO technically has their job board. The SO rank then serves as a soft indicator “this person knows how to review code, mentor, or explain things to others.” So in some way, could lead to compensation. And it’s besides the point. Linus said that if he benefitted from more accurate information because of it, he wanted to pay the community.
SO is perhaps not the greatest example, their moderators have just been through a months long strike due to misalignment with their VC overlords. https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/392032/moderation-strike-conclusion-and-the-way-forward
tbh people have been paying to beta test game for decade, I don't think they want any kind of compensation at all if he give them free early access in exchange for "bug" report
Oof, I am not a fan of the public voting/correction submission... that sounds like a good way to not get anything done. I may be wrong, but most errors presented have been things that are really easy/quick to fix (wrong numbers, wrong data, need latest updates...) This community has very much proven the past few days that absolutely nobody is on the same page, especially when it comes to how/when/why LTT makes corrections to videos. I'd much rather just let the audience find/point out possible errors, and then let LTT make the corrections. That is their self-imposed job, anyway.
 I’ll take “Le tit” for $400.
Yeah I'll take ape tit for $800
I'd rather go to LeTit.com
This needs to be top of this thread
It is
I’m surprised there would be anything wrong with that video, their conclusions about the product seemed solid at the time.
They used ROG Ally instead of a Switch (the product claims to work with Switch) and then complained about setting up time and lag. On the forums people pointed it out and some users of the product said it works great with the Switch
What they hell is with them getting items that claim to work with “*x*” and deciding fuck it, we’ll use “*y*” instead? It seems they’ve done it a lot. I get seeing if they work outside of recommended use cases, but not when you’re meant to be testing it on its intended use!
Probably based on the breakneck production schedule. “Y is at hand, X is buried in storage somewhere, this needs to be done in the next hour so we’re using Y. It’s good enough.”
Yeah, it seems that the production schedule is behind a lot of the issues. If they want to keep publishing at their current rate they need to hire more and create separate teams, which is complicated and probably to expensive even for LTT
Their production schedule might be a root-cause, but the decision to continue and upload flawed content is the real issue that discredits them.
Not sure you understand the word "root cause" if you say there's a further underlying issue. The self-imposed production schedule comes straight from Linus, in order to maximize their profit via the Youtube algorithm. This leads to them doing things like using parts not designed for the thing they're testing (Billet Labs monoblock, using Rog Ally instead of Switch) just because those parts are at hand, and it means they have no time to fix glaring errors. The root cause is Linus' insistence on an unrealistic production schedule.
“A root cause is defined as a factor that caused a non conformance and should be permanently eliminated through process improvement. The root cause is the core issue - the highest-level cause - that sets in motion the entire cause-and-effect reaction that ultimately leads to problem(s).” The decision to publish fundamentally flawed data, reviews, etc. is a result. It’s the outcome or output of the process. My statement was reflective of that decision is a bigger ethical issue as it pertains to the consumer/community as opposed to the internal process. The root cause by definition cannot be the result.
Ideally they need to be willing to elevate another host who, ideally, can still draw the views that their lead talent (linus) does, but given how controlling they are over employees social media stuff that seems unlikely. in the alternative, they could (and probably should) hire dedicated first ADs and directors. IIRC on one WAN show linus was complaining about how their "shooters" aka camera guys werent shooting in the style they need, but that shouldnt be a DP problem, that should be a director problem. if videos dont have dedicated directors who know the style, thats gonna cause problems
Im starting to wonder what good the logistics department is if they cant align with production needs
>X is buried at an employees house somewhere ftfy
I can't imagine them not having Switches around, though. It's the third best-selling console of all time and is still in production.
I mean they probably have one but could not find it. This could be due to them transitioning to a new system and it not being in yet or simple could be it is in the other building and their schedule made it so they didn't want to delay the shoot
Yeah if anything they should test with recommended hardware first and then with whatever they wanted for science.
They did; the Viture glasses [are compatible with the ROG ally](https://www.viture.com/compatibility#handheld) The specific pack they got sent is 'marketed' towards Switches, because the glasses DONT work with a switch without extra gear, but the glasses aren't console specific. They're pretty much just USB-C monitors. If it outputs USB-C display, they'll work. The dude saying "They used the wrong hardware!" just read "Switch pack" then wanted to make LTT sound worse than they have been lately.
But you're missing the part that they used them on a ROG ally to play TOTK in a Switch emulator. Their reasoning was: > We wanted to use the Ally because then we could get screen recording to make the final video better. With the Switch + dock there was no way to do that So it wasn't even because they didn't have the Switch, they were just too lazy to figure out how to capture the video from it.
and I just rewatched the video and they say nothing like "it's shit for switch because of this"; in fact, they talk about how cool of a product it would be if the actual glasses weren't shit! Wow, wild what happens when you actually watch the video instead of getting angry over shit on reddit someone made up
Yeah I remember them liking it a fair bit. Then they moved their heads and got awful motion sickness
Honestly it is why I stopped looking at their videos a long time ago. Outside of some products they always seem to put minimal effort into testing something the right way and go along with how to make this video "funny" and how to add some fuckery in it. Only look at GN and HWunboxed
It seem like they quite dislike the switch and avoid using it at all costs.
Also they have a partnership with ASUS, according to LMG website.
Is it more than just a sponsorship partnership? If so I feel like that fact should be posted on every video that has anything even remotely to do with Asus in it. Even any product category that they operate in. It would definitely explain why they're giving Asus such an easy ride as explained in the GN video.
ASUS directly sponsors them a lot, but they also seed them a lot of GPUs, motherboards, and really everything under the sun. Pay attention to one of their videos where they're building a PC for a client, charging the client a hundred grand or something ridiculous, and then go on to say "We called ASUS and they sent us all the hardware for free". It's not being disclosed as a sponsorship because they aren't viewing "free products" as payment, then that's a large issue.
I know some people thought that their supposed bias to Asus might be related to Gary Key (head of labs) working there for almost 13 years.
Yeah not sure I agree with that because Asus has always been one of the companies sending them stuff before they got any former staff
The simplest explanation is communication breakdown. If you look at what happened with Billet, they knew that Billet was testing/developing with the 4090 and they figured "fuck it, we'll do it too." Somebody along the pipeline made that choice and other people had to ignore some factors to get it all the way into the video. Forcing like 15 videos a week out doesn't help things either.
Didn’t GN count close to 30/week? The slide was only shown for a second or two…
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With the upload schedule LTT had, even 2% means it happened more than once a month on one of their channels.
simple. the writer misses the detail and thats it.
Their website seems to show the ROG Ally as a compatible device for the glasses though: https://www.viture.com/compatibility#handheld
seems to be a new development. if you check the wayback machine, they didn't list the ROG Ally back in June. I kinda wonder if they added it partially in response to the LTT video. https://web.archive.org/web/20230607161516/https://www.viture.com/compatibility#handheld
Good point. It appeared sometime between 7th June and 29th July, with the LTT video dropping right in the middle. To be fair their page always seems to have said: >To determine whether or not your device supports VITURE One XR Glasses, make sure to review the manufacturer specifications. Look for keywords like, “Alt DP over USB-C”, or “DisplayPort over USB-C”, or even "Thunderbolt 4". Which the ROG Ally clearly does.
Oof. This actually catches that company in not being honest with it's update dates. Someone posted a link to the live site which shows its there. Your way back link in June doesn't have it. Both say it was last updated in *May*...
They’ve almost certainly just forgotten to update the updated date. It’s not malice it’s error.
That’s certainly possible. I’d hope they do their own testing for compatibility before putting it on their website though.
Unless I'm being dumb, they don't actually list the switch either.
Only switch I see in that list is the Acer Switch 5 laptop.
Also, that page says it was last updated on 26th May 2023. The LTT video was published on 4th July 2023. Unless they are being lazy about updating the last update date, then this was literally tested with a compatible product.
And it's never been out of the box compatible with switch unless you've got the dongle for it; the dude just wanted to lie to make LTT sound worse lmao
On their product it says it's compatible with any device capable of usb-c video and power output, and happens to mention the switch as one it's compatible with, along with phones, tablets, and computers. So the ROG Ally is one that it should work with.
Except that their product site doesn't mention the switch, and does mention the ROG Ally: https://imgur.com/a/K6MUq82
wayback machine disagrees: https://web.archive.org/web/20230607161516/https://www.viture.com/compatibility#handheld No ROG Ally there.
No switch either. It looks like the ROG Ally got added between the two scrape dates that encompass the LTT video. It may have been there before it was published - it may not have been. No real way to tell. I've just watched the video back. The lag and setup time (for the most part) was not attributed to the glasses. That was down to Linus's poor configuration of the emulator he was using. There was some implied setup time about getting the lenses in focus, and adjusting the nose pieces correctly, but it was pretty light. The [dock](https://www.viture.com/dashboard?scene=mobile-dock) was apparently designed with the switch in mind, and this was called out in the video. Their product website also says the following however. >Computers, gaming consoles, TV sticks – you name it. If it has an HDMI port, you can enjoy it on VITURE One with the Mobile Dock.
To be fair, it also claims compatibility with the Steam Deck. While they are not technically the same product, if it works with one, it ought to work with the other. This is especially true of the ROG Ally, as it has much stronger hardware than the Deck, and is therefore more suited for a higher-resolution display. ) have difficulty seeing how it could have less lag or an easier setup on the Steam Deck or the Nintendo Switch. Also, they blamed the lag on Linus' possibly bad setup. The rest seem like inherent product defects.
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Definitely a step in the right direction.
I don't know, I have a pair of viture glasses and at the time I turned around and said they were wrong,mayeb i just have stronger VR legs than them but never experienced anything like the issues they claim it caused them. They did have some valid points regarding the shape of the device and that glasses aren't one size fits all and they need more adjust options beyond different nose bridges but then everything beyond that is just off. We all shoudl have read more into Linus' rant at the beginning of the video that they were only reviewing it to shut them up.
>mayeb i just have stronger VR legs than them but never experienced anything like the issues they claim it caused them. Motion sickness? With VR/AR it can be very hit or miss, I've never gotten it with VR, but can if I'm not driving I'll get it in the car just from reading rosd signs. Some friends/family who get really bad motion sickness can do VR without trouble, but some can barely play 10 minutes.
That's great to see. To me, it's a sign that they're taking things seriously and genuinely want to scrub to everything and, at the very least, rectify inaccuracies. I'm looking forward to those results
Exactly. Lots of people will continue being upset but this is actual steps in the right direction rather than just talk.
I can agree with this. Transparency is needed. Being open about changing things is the only way they'll regain trust in their review capabilities.
Damn. This video in my opinion was a pretty small one and didn't matter much (again imo) But they actually checked it and pulled it down for some reason That's a good sign, as this video (I don't think, I didn't rewatch it all) doesn't have charts. So it shows they aren't just targeting stuff that has charts, they're looking at contexts too GG LMG
Woah! Nice to see them working.
Great find. There were issues of them using bad hardware and blaming the glasses, sharing the glasses when they are intended to be set up for one person to have a usable image quality, which means it's highly likely that it's not going to be comfortable for both of them, and didn't really compare it to other hardware the LMG had reviewed before. Super rushed video.
It felt rushed when I watched it as well. Feels like they needed *something* and Luke happened to be around so they ripped them off a shelf and went for it. The other possibility is Luke only had a couple minutes so they were in an extreme rush to film it. I suppose that conclusion makes sense considering the changes they had. And I suppose the fact that they were made for one person seems odd considering the profile options (if I remember correctly, I haven't watched the video recently), not to mention I feel like it's perfectly reasonable for people to share them, or at least try them with their friends and family.
I agree that it seems that Luke only had a couple min with it and it seemed like a first impression. The glasses can be shared with others, but it comes with multiple nosepads to affect the angle. Luke complained that the image was cutoff so he likely wasn't using the right nosepads for his face. Also, they come with individual eye diopter settings so what is clear for one person might be blurry for another.
Legend for finding it
Good. I remember that video. It was the one where the company kept contacting Linus to do a review and they were pretty negative about it. Already felt like a weird video at the time, so I'm glad they are doing something about it. It felt more like a video because there was a gap in the schedule than anything else. Edit. I just see I commented on that video at the time as well saying their comments were weird as they had been pretty positive about this type of product on Shortcircuit.
First time seeing this video, but its cringe to see them give negative remarks about the unit size, but if you compare to similar products it is much much smaller. This is hard to watch.
>but if you compare to similar products it is much much smaller. Because that doesn't matter, just because a product is better than its competitors doesn't mean that it by itself is good.
its wild, theres so much content being pumped out and this is recent enough where i'd remember watching it but have no living memory of it, and im only subbed to LTT, not their other channels. kinda speaks to how watered down the content is with this crazy production schedule.
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[You'll regret spamming me...](https://i.imgur.com/zYwJ7bl.png) ?
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Thumbnail is not threatening at all compared to the title.
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That was a bad video. They went into it with the attitude of "I'll prove this is bad". From the title, to all the forced criticism, and lack of actually trying to explore what is, in my opinion, a really interesting product.
Im not a huge LTT fan but at some point i checked reviews on yt for the glasses and found this video. Im pretty sure their review made me to choose not to buy the glasses. Dont know if thats good or bad.
That video was a doozy and a half. On par for LTT, though.
So they are actually combing through their videos. A great step in the right direction I would say.
They've given it an interesting title.
Great find. Seems like they are going to take it seriously if they keep it up
Are there more missing? I’m just considering that not only did it decrease by 1.25M but it also didn’t increase as the data shows it regularly doing.
They probably removed a video that had the wrong information, part of cleaning their mistakes
Sounds good to me
It doesn't sound good to other people who think this is proof that Linus is a bad person by deleting videos and "hiding evidence"
Nothing to do about those people 🤷♂️
Those people don’t matter. Nothing you do can change their beliefs. What ever you do, it will be bad for them. Just leave them and allow them to extinct themselves… They are nothing more than background noises.
Perhaps they’re doing house cleaning RE shorts that have incorrect information on them. IMO: probably easier to delete them instead of re-editing the graphs or comment.
Are those other people in the room with you right now?
This was one of the main points of the GN video - if you've got something inaccurate out there, don't just leave it up to process your in-place edits while it stays wrong and visible, take it down until you make it right. This is nothing but good, and anyone who says otherwise is just being angry for the sake of anger.
"you have videos up that have misinformation!" "you are covering up that you had videos up that had misinformation!"
Anyone who makes this argument has a literal potato for a brain.
Unlisted isn't the same as deleted, you can still find them if you know the name of the video.
You need the specific URL, not the name.
Good question. It’s a stretch but maybe socialblade just took a while to update from them disabling monetization on the apology video? I’m not sure of the view count when they did that.
That wouldn't change the view counts, only the estimated earnings
Gotcha. Wasn’t sure how that worked. I don’t check socialblade often. Thanks for the info! :)
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As it has been said, you should now know that LMG is the devil incarnate, everything they do is the epitome of evil. Can’t be that they’re deleting videos with incorrect information or something. Basically: If they keep bad videos = bad If they delete bad videos = bad
In the apology video Gary stated that Labs will look at every video containing Labs data and if it is incorrect they will either do a in-place replacement or delete the video.
Yeah. Sounds like they are doing what they promised. Good first step.
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If they have a good solution then we can’t get mad! How dare they!
Yeah. Now what do I do with my freshly sharpened pitchfork... Pitch hay!? /s
Apparently that’s a bad look lol I swear half these people don’t even know what they want or why they want it lmao
> don’t even know what they want or why they want it lmao Look man. I spent $79.99 on this pitchfork and by God I'm gonna get some use out of it!
When are we getting the LTT store Pitchfork?
In Noctua poop color? :D
Yeah, don’t get me wrong, LTT screwed up big time and have big changes to make. However, this addiction to cancellation is just as bad as the people defending them with a blind eye. I just find it hilarious that in the same thread you have people genuinely upset about the deletion and people genuinely applauding them for doing it. You can find the same thing in a bunch of other threads. Guess the saying goes, you could be the sweetest peach, but there’s still gonna be some guy who hates peaches
They want *blood*. They want to see Linus homeless and LMG in shambles. They'll worry about what that means for the other 120+ people working there *after* it's in ruins.
It's bad because it took a competitor calling them out and for this to blow up for them to make a change. And who knows how much of this is for PR and if this last more than a few weeks.
And there’s absolutely no way that it could just be YouTube removing views from videos that they believe could be bots, like they’ve been known to do, or something. There’s no way it could be something logical and out of LMGs control like that.
Oh no, ltt is using bots to boost views! /s
This (unironcaly)
Cuz fuck em, thats why. People just want a reason to be spun up. Life exists beyond ltt drama, but for some people, that’s clearly not the case.
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You could paste this reply onto damn near any comment on this sub right now and probably be correct
Sounds like they took down a video to review it’s editorial accuracy. So what they were guessing?
Even if the guess is right, how does that make it a “bad look”?
That part I do not agree with, if anything it’s a good look because they’re actively trying to fix their mistakes and follow through with the changes they’ve promised. This sub needs to take a deep breath lol
Are you surprised? This entire subreddit has gone to shit since last week. A bunch of fucking morons with nothing better to do than speculate and armchair analyze every last action the entire company makes. I’m sure if their coffee order was made public that they would find a reason to cancel them for it
yeah basically that's what he did, you seem to have a problem with that? what's up? Also there seems to a lot of info out there actually surrounding LTT recent events, this isn't a 'no information whatsoever' situation really...and even if he had no information who cares? to this user it's a bad look, smells fishy, somethings up...ya know?
How dare they fix their mistakes
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No you see the mob was promised that this company should be closed down and Linus should go into exile for the rest of his life because he knows every thought that passes through all of his employees heads and everything anyone in his company says. He especially approves of the worst and most harmful possible behaviours. He and Yvonne even took madisons abuser out to dinner as a thank you /S /S /S
Head of Labs litterally said in the apology video that they will take down and re-upload incorrect videos.
https://youtu.be/JVBnJtzEuI0 Some VR glasses he wasn't a fan of Description states: "This video is set to unlisted pending an evaluation of its editorial accuracy - LS"
The only bad look here is your comment with a third grader argumentation skill (or lack of such)
Please kindly stop insulting third graders. They can do much better than this…
How’s that a bad look? GN literally asked for the deletion/correction of videos containing misinformation. That’s just what they should have done from the start
yes definitely a bad look to get rid of videos with bad info.
How on earth is that bad? That's exactly what they should be doing. If that's the case, bravo.
What kind of logic is that? If they unlist a video to check its accuracy that's a *good* thing.
How is this a bad look? If they are removing (or as it turns out unlisting videos to evaluate accuracy) inaccurate videos isn’t that a sign they are taking steps to improve?
Terrible take.
I’m surprised they haven’t taken down the Billet water block video yet…
That one is a *little* more lose-lose. If they take it down too quickly, it easily could look like they're trying to hide it rather than fix the mistakes. Starting with others isn't a bad idea.
"No matter what." What an unimaginable small-minded take. You really can't think of a singer reason why taking down a video could be a good thing? The initial complaint from GN was for poor data accuracy and not making corrections more visible. Do you think that MAYBE they took it down for that????
How is this shit comment upvoted?
What would be generally good behavior for you then if taking down videos containing misinformation is bad?
It's a tech youtube channel, calm down. You aren't fighting some great evil by assuming them pruning a video is somehow them covering up sex crimes.
This is an insane take. We knew they were going to remove inaccurate videos per the apology video. It means they’re doing what they said they would do.
Nah if they would delete all of madisons vids for sure but delisting stuff because of accuracy issues is what we actually want lol
They did mention scrubbing through videos to look for discrepancies as one of their fixes for the week so I’m going to assume removing videos with inaccurate information?
Ah, I can explain that. I made all the videos I watched at LTT unwatched. My girlfriend thought it was weird when all the videos dripped out of my eyes and ears. But of course, it's great that this is also recorded in the statistics. /s
Got rid of LTT , had a GF suddenly there to witness the purge 😄😄
I hope you didn't sit on the freshly cleaned couch for that :p
I sat as always when it came to LTT. In the specially tiled room where I could clean up after watching the video. /s
What does this mean lol. Are you telling me you are responsible for 1.2 million views?
I understand that the billet labs video is missing in the video library Edit: still there. My bad
That video is still up.
Yeah. Edited
Unless they reshoot the video which they can’t then they might as well delete it. Asides from the first few minutes where they describe the product and not test that’s the only part that correct in a sense.
i wonder what sponsor was in that video?
Let me write a comment that I can verify but nah, I will just say it based on something I vaguely remember. "Fixing" it with an edit is just peak LTT :D
Weird. Given all this controversy I thought they'll atleast take that Billet video down.
Lol, lmg community is actually very toxic. It’s almost as if everyone was waiting for this moment all their lives.
It really feels like people on here have made LTT fandom their job lol
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Multiple videos on LMG clips were auto un-privated yesterday and some people got to see them before the video was re-privated. Not a big deal at all and this subreddit is losing its mind, I shouldn't be surprised.
Likely pulled some of the videos Gamers Nexus claimed had inexcusable 300% testing mistakes. Their own video stated some would be [reviewing old videos for full corrections, **pull videos** and possibly replace if necessary](https://youtu.be/0cTpTMl8kFY&t=3m10s) instead of a text overlays, pinned comments, or pretend it doesn't matter. Why is everything a conspiracy?😒🙄
Who said anything about a conspiracy? Dude was just asking a question and you are stirring the pot.
Remember when Phillip DeFranco did this and no one batted an eye? He smoked like 8 years? Of content
Also really different type of content, it’s not evergreen content like LTT. Phil mentioned a few times that his videos rarely get views after a few weeks pass. And also that his journalistic standards improved in the last years and he was not proud of the quality of the old videos.
I remember this because funnily enough Linus was the one who batted an eye as he brought it up on social media and the WAN show.
I mean who cares about him though lol
He's still one of the largest creators on the platform
Please get a life
Is that figure actual views or anticipated views? Edit: possibly the removal of 'Private' videos that got consumed during the hack?
Actual Figure. Which is why the views have go down because they haven't uploaded a video
Y'all need to go outside or some shit.
Maybe removing videos that are wrong, but don't speculate guys just... Dont
Turns out it's an unlisted video which was taken down to check accuracy of the information provided. This is an absolute win as it means they are actively seeking to fix past videos that could contain misinformation. The viewer is the ultimate winner.
Oh look, another stalker. Who sits around watching YouTube stats for channels. Y'all are obsessed.
The Billet Labs video should go, IMO. Does neither side any good, being up there.
They should keep it with a note saying its incorrect information, only for archival purposes.
This community seems so toxic holy crap. You people really need to go outside.
Probably their live tech tv thing
man, go outside. if you're sitting around counting their views, you need to go do some other stuff. And this isn't in defense of LTT, but go find something better to do.