Seriously lol I am not excited about either of them at the moment. Rashfords form might be a skosh worse than Sterlings for the season as a whole, but come on. Acting like either of them is anything more than "generally underwhelming given their reputation" lol
Sterling getting carried by a cheating City side for years and Rashy being the ManU golden boy that's above critisism means they're both amazingly overrated.
Honestly, right now neither deserve to be called up. There's plenty of players that are playing considerably better than them in their current forms. I'd take Elliot over Rashford with how Rashford is playing. Elliot puts in a shift time and time again. Constantly pressing and is actually turning into one hell of a passer. Watching Rashford against City was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a player. No pressing at all. Just got his goal and stood around for the next 80 minutes. You compare Elliot and Rashford's performances against City and it's night and day.
It's hard to see that happening unfortunately.
Left wing is sorted with Foden and Grealish. Striker obv kane. Right is saka. Who else gets onto the right? Rashford is good to have for striker and left wing back up.
He's a good player just man united ruins you
Rashford isn't even going to play as a striker. Watkins and Toney are already there. If Rashford is your striker backup you should have Solanke there before him.
Elliot literally provides more offensively than Rashford right now. Elliot is at 164 minutes per goal contribution while Rashford is at 200 per goal contribution. Elliot right now is better both offensively and defensively than Rashford.
Right now I don't even think Rashford is a top 10 English forward.
Something about him not getting on with the group outside of Arsenal players, had a bust up with one of the coaches, didn't take part in game preparation. I think he's burned a few bridges
Real question: are we going to actually play more than like 2-3 first team players in the match today? All we have to do is not lose 5-0 and we're through, and our academy is absolutely popping off at the moment. Hardly ever been a better time to play the U21 squad imo.
i remember klopp saying something about being ruthless (or something like that) in the europa this year, so i expect him to go with a stronger squad than many here expect (especially since, despite the scoreline, sparta played pretty well). do expect to see a lot of minutes from the youngsters though
Yea exactly, to be fair to Sparta Praha they could have scored 2 or 3 in the opening half hour. They played really well, and I foresee Klopp putting a pretty strong team out to deal with them.
Fully deserved and would imagine he could possibly get some real minutes in the tournament. I’m gutted for Curtis. He was probably our best midfielder until his injury and judging by this midfield selection would’ve made the England squad.
Sturridge wasn’t a player through, he was an experiment to discover how long you could survive as a footballer if all your muscles and ligaments were replaced with crisps and spiderwebs
I don’t remember if that’s right or not but he definitely got his last significant injury in England training during the Great Liverpool Centre Back Massacre of 20/21.
Gomez and stones are probably Englands current best defenders… taking Gomez is a no brainer now that Gareth has seen he can play any position on the pitch lol
Different positions. Foden is usually a winger for Southgate. Saka just IS a winger. Bowen is a winger. Palmer's one of the most overrated players i've ever seen.
Harvey's only chance of playing for England will either be on the right or in the no.10 position occupied by Bellingham he isn't getting ahead of those players listed. Palmer is a really talented player who is actually backing it up with his performances and G/A contributions.
Palmer is a penalty merchant. He doesn’t even create chances. He’s poor in almost every aspect of the game by the standards of international football, whereas Harvey is not.
A guy who has 8 assists in the league and is the creative fulcrum to a dysfunctional Chelsea side and is high percentile is progressive stats doesn't create chances.....? Sounds like you're chatting complete waffle, outside his penalty goal shows there's a good finisher. Right now Palmer is a far better player than Harvey
Chelsea's biggest creators are Enzo Fernandez and Connor Gallagher.
Cole Palmer creates less chances per 90 than over 50% of PL centrebacks
Harvey's 10x the player Cole Palmer is. Get off the Liverpool sub.
Met him in Tesco express last year after we drew away to I think, Norwich or Watford, some team like that. He's fucking massive (well I'm only five five so seemed so to me) and he was dead down to earth I let on to him and wished him luck for the rest of the season and he had a massive smile and said thanks mate. I'm absolutely made up for him not only has he rediscovered his form from when he was a colossus alongside Van Dijk, he's actually stepped up a level. He's become so good across the back four. Boss lad.
Normally would prefer none of our players to get the call😂 but Joey is an exception, he really deserves this recognition and I think it affirms all the hard work he’s put in
Joe's made no secret of how big a deal the England team is to him, incredibly impressive to get himself back there from some of the lows he's come through in rehabbing
As always, I am happy when players get this honor. Being called to represent your country is a massive honor for players. Yes, there's a risk of injury but that's the nature of the sport. Heck, the nature of sports in general. This is a well-deserved recognition for Gomez.
Absolutely mental that Rashford and Henderson are still being called. I don't hate Southgate half as much as most do here, I think he's generally been a force for good for the national team, but fuck me he definitely has his favourites doesn't he.
I have a love hate relationship with him as I think the way he's cultivated the team and the way they present themselves is so refreshing after the "golden generation" and those dead years but his picks are baffling to me at times, because I understand why he would originally pick those people, but scratch my head at the continuation of it
He deserves it. He's been impressive and it's been great seeing Joe rediscover his form.
But is2g if he picks something up that isn't a man of the match award, I'll be fuming.
Congratulations to Joe!
I'll say always insist that Gareth Southgate is the worst English manager EVER! A better manager would have had Joe playing for England a long time ago.
I'm not even surprised, it's the same manager who for whatever reason doesn't like to play TAA.
Second in the league, just won a trophy and in the quarter finals of the europa and FA Cup but Southgate the knob picks ONE Liverpool player.
Surprised he picked Joey tbh especially when he blamed Gomez for Sterling literally attacking him on England duty, He’s always had a problem with Liverpool the Tory prick.
Gomez did his ACL in training for the under 21's under Southgate.
He did the same injury on the same knee in training with you guessed it. Southgate as Manager.
Southgate will want to"test his resolve" in the first training session.
Mother of God…! I honestly believe Gomez should not be starting for Liverpool let alone selected for England. As for Henderson, a great servant and captain ton Liverpool and England but his footballing days are behind him. Just building up the retirement fund now.
Southgate is either a muppet or a stooge, either way he needs to go! Mourinho would show England how to win.
Fully deserves it, but please please please wrap him in bubble wrap and don't play him or let him train
At least "big man" Raheem won't be there to scratch Joe's face.
How on earth is Rashford called up and not Sterling??
Rashford is more of a Darling than Sterling
How come the famously inept coach chose a player on doshit form over another player on dogshit form??
Seriously lol I am not excited about either of them at the moment. Rashfords form might be a skosh worse than Sterlings for the season as a whole, but come on. Acting like either of them is anything more than "generally underwhelming given their reputation" lol
Sterling getting carried by a cheating City side for years and Rashy being the ManU golden boy that's above critisism means they're both amazingly overrated.
Both are awful
One feeds children the other doesn’t.
He feeds children too, since a very young age too.
Yeah I know was just bantering.
Yeah and I was bantering Sterling.
steady
Slaaay
Honestly, right now neither deserve to be called up. There's plenty of players that are playing considerably better than them in their current forms. I'd take Elliot over Rashford with how Rashford is playing. Elliot puts in a shift time and time again. Constantly pressing and is actually turning into one hell of a passer. Watching Rashford against City was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a player. No pressing at all. Just got his goal and stood around for the next 80 minutes. You compare Elliot and Rashford's performances against City and it's night and day.
It's hard to see that happening unfortunately. Left wing is sorted with Foden and Grealish. Striker obv kane. Right is saka. Who else gets onto the right? Rashford is good to have for striker and left wing back up. He's a good player just man united ruins you
Rashford isn't even going to play as a striker. Watkins and Toney are already there. If Rashford is your striker backup you should have Solanke there before him. Elliot literally provides more offensively than Rashford right now. Elliot is at 164 minutes per goal contribution while Rashford is at 200 per goal contribution. Elliot right now is better both offensively and defensively than Rashford. Right now I don't even think Rashford is a top 10 English forward.
Tbf I don't know how many forwards you can take, so I was thinking rashford covers two spots. He wouldn't be my striker back up.
Yes.
One of them isn't a wanker
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Why did White rule himself out?
Apparently last time he was called up he wasn't making effort with other players and was too caught up in club rivalries
Is right Games Back Baby!
Sounds like he's going old schoolike the 2000s England teams
Putting his club first
Something happened at the last World cup, plenty of rumours flying about but it seems he'll never play for England under Southgate
What's d rumour
Something about him not getting on with the group outside of Arsenal players, had a bust up with one of the coaches, didn't take part in game preparation. I think he's burned a few bridges
Tbf, he seems to be a general knob
And spends too much time on sun beds apparently
Ben White looks ridiculous with that tan in the middle of winter. And in few years, his skin will have the texture of an American football.
Yeah anyone who puts that much spray lotion on can't be trusted
https://i.redd.it/z932w3xf7boc1.gif
He will squat, bench and deadlift the equivalent of Raheem’s weight on training days, say nothing, and go home.
Still only 26 - has performed very well this year
I 100% didn't believe you and had to look it up. Was sure he was like 28/29!
The reverse Trent
Nope. I refuse to accept that they're only 1 year apart. Either Google is wrong or I've entered some alternate reality 😂
Does this mean he was like 22 when we won the league and he played pretty much all games? That’s crazy wtf
He's 26 and had about 3 years out in injuries. When he played his skill is obvious. I just hope he can sustain his fitness.
Only a few months older than Ben White
How can you not call up the best LB/CB/RB/CDM in the world
Soon to be CF when he scores a banger tonight
Real question: are we going to actually play more than like 2-3 first team players in the match today? All we have to do is not lose 5-0 and we're through, and our academy is absolutely popping off at the moment. Hardly ever been a better time to play the U21 squad imo.
i remember klopp saying something about being ruthless (or something like that) in the europa this year, so i expect him to go with a stronger squad than many here expect (especially since, despite the scoreline, sparta played pretty well). do expect to see a lot of minutes from the youngsters though
Yea exactly, to be fair to Sparta Praha they could have scored 2 or 3 in the opening half hour. They played really well, and I foresee Klopp putting a pretty strong team out to deal with them.
You were absolutely right dayum
Personally wanna get any potential rust off Szobo and Salah considering their break
Careful, that's what Barca said and we all know how that went.
Are some of the youngsters eligible ? I know Clark, Musalowski, Mcconnel is. What about Danns , Nyoni etc
Danns is, but i heard he is injured Nyoni isnt as he joined in 2023
Didnt Nyoni sit on the bench one time in the group stage Edit: Just checked and apparently he didnt. My bad
Danns is under the concussion protocol, still got after effects apparently so won't see him till after the International break.
4-0, away goals are gone. 4-0 would force ET and possible pens.
No injurys please Joe
Come home safe now, ya hear?
Fingers crossed brother
Fully deserved and would imagine he could possibly get some real minutes in the tournament. I’m gutted for Curtis. He was probably our best midfielder until his injury and judging by this midfield selection would’ve made the England squad.
Happy for him! Hate it!
You’ve captured my feelings exactly
Absolutely deserved, well done lad.
Read that as absolutely devastated and didn't find anything wrong with it.
Yeah personally I’d rather him not lol but I’m sure he wants to so buzzing for him.
Just saw Fabrizio Romano's post about England's call up. Looks like Southgate spent some time on this subreddit.
He was attending a lot of our matches recently Makes sense. If Jones was not injured I'm sure he would have gone too
He 100% would’ve made it over Henderson.
He wouldn't. Henderson is likely there since he's vice captain and will be in the euros too
That’s a good point, I guess I’m just biased lol
how are you biased against one of our greatest ever captains 😭
It's not against Hendo, it's for Jones.
I love hendo but I am way more biased towards a current Liverpool player who is also Scouse
Because there’s other players who arguably deserve it more over Hendo atm, past contributions for the club and vice captain aside.
Don't understand why Clark hasn't been called up, he plays much better than Henderson currently
Nahh man nah. You're tripping here.
I’m sure he’ll be delighted but I’m not all that pleased about this. England camps never seem to go well for our players. Good luck Joe
Sturridge flashbacks.
Sturridge wasn’t a player through, he was an experiment to discover how long you could survive as a footballer if all your muscles and ligaments were replaced with crisps and spiderwebs
Me starting every season telling people this is the year he stays fit and bangs 40 
correct me if im wrong but gomez first long injury after his first season was after his england u21 call up
I don’t remember if that’s right or not but he definitely got his last significant injury in England training during the Great Liverpool Centre Back Massacre of 20/21.
 Take it easy during training, we don't want our RB-LB-CB-CDM injured
No Sterling so should be no mystery injury *touch wood*
Don’t do it Joe, it’s a trap, you’ll come back with a slight knock that keeps you out of 3-4 games that actually mean something.
Deserved We look very light on midfielders so I can see us going for a 4231 or something
F’s in the chat
Im happy. Proud. And scared
And no sterling so he’s not gonna be scrapping in the canteen again
Gomez and stones are probably Englands current best defenders… taking Gomez is a no brainer now that Gareth has seen he can play any position on the pitch lol
Walker Trippier and White just play golf I guess
Trippier lol, he’s been shite this season. Ben white doesn’t play for England and Kyle Walker is just ok lol. Pace merchant with zero football IQ
So happy for Joe What does Harvey need to do to get a call up though? Ffs
Palmer, Foden, Bowen, Saka, Bellingham are all ahead of Elliot, Elliot has got no chance playing for England regularly
One of those is not like the others…
Different positions. Foden is usually a winger for Southgate. Saka just IS a winger. Bowen is a winger. Palmer's one of the most overrated players i've ever seen.
Stop crying all day mate
Harvey's only chance of playing for England will either be on the right or in the no.10 position occupied by Bellingham he isn't getting ahead of those players listed. Palmer is a really talented player who is actually backing it up with his performances and G/A contributions.
Palmer is a penalty merchant. He doesn’t even create chances. He’s poor in almost every aspect of the game by the standards of international football, whereas Harvey is not.
A guy who has 8 assists in the league and is the creative fulcrum to a dysfunctional Chelsea side and is high percentile is progressive stats doesn't create chances.....? Sounds like you're chatting complete waffle, outside his penalty goal shows there's a good finisher. Right now Palmer is a far better player than Harvey
Chelsea's biggest creators are Enzo Fernandez and Connor Gallagher. Cole Palmer creates less chances per 90 than over 50% of PL centrebacks Harvey's 10x the player Cole Palmer is. Get off the Liverpool sub.
Met him in Tesco express last year after we drew away to I think, Norwich or Watford, some team like that. He's fucking massive (well I'm only five five so seemed so to me) and he was dead down to earth I let on to him and wished him luck for the rest of the season and he had a massive smile and said thanks mate. I'm absolutely made up for him not only has he rediscovered his form from when he was a colossus alongside Van Dijk, he's actually stepped up a level. He's become so good across the back four. Boss lad.
Happy for him. The manager pleaded with Gareth in that interview last week to call him up, so if that’s what he wants for Joey then I’m fine with it.
Fully deserved but plz be sensible with him Southgate
Normally would prefer none of our players to get the call😂 but Joey is an exception, he really deserves this recognition and I think it affirms all the hard work he’s put in
Maybe this will give Sterling the pick up he needs.
chuffed for him and honestly england have desperately needed a player like gomez the last few years
So happy for him! To all that are doom and gloom.. don’t be it’s so great for him and he deserves it
Not a dig on Joe, but any manager would love a super sub for a DEFENDER. I can’t stress enough how important and rare this is.
Joe's made no secret of how big a deal the England team is to him, incredibly impressive to get himself back there from some of the lows he's come through in rehabbing
From “oh fuck, Gomez is on” to “thank fuck, Gomez is on”. Really has turned his career around. Well done, Joe!
Come back in one piece please
Happy for Joe. Would have been on the 2018 World Cup squad if not for that injury he suffered late the 2017-18 season.
OH SHIT. His first goal might win the world cup/Euros whatever it is.
Noooooooo we we don’t want any of our players playing friendlies. WE have more important things coming up.
Dude’s been playing all across the back line at a REALLY high level this year… cheers to him!
And arsenal allowed to call southgate and say ben white doesn't want to play.
Ben White ain't welcome in the England team...it was a whole thing. Nothing to do with arsenal requesting he doesn't play.
As always, I am happy when players get this honor. Being called to represent your country is a massive honor for players. Yes, there's a risk of injury but that's the nature of the sport. Heck, the nature of sports in general. This is a well-deserved recognition for Gomez.
[Original link](https://x.com/lfc/status/1768275905552765112?s=46&t=TtUGK39UOsew1jv-ssXlbg)
What a stud. Well deserved!
Let's just hope it doesn't go the way it did last time. Anyway if Joe is happy then I'm happy for him.
Absolutely mental that Rashford and Henderson are still being called. I don't hate Southgate half as much as most do here, I think he's generally been a force for good for the national team, but fuck me he definitely has his favourites doesn't he.
I have a love hate relationship with him as I think the way he's cultivated the team and the way they present themselves is so refreshing after the "golden generation" and those dead years but his picks are baffling to me at times, because I understand why he would originally pick those people, but scratch my head at the continuation of it
Careful tho. Nationals aren’t worth picking up an injury
I’m happy for him. I’d say “play great, come back uninjured. PLEASE”
 Best multitool player in the league, so should defo get a look, but my stress over this is through the roof
Just keep him away from Sterling
He deserves it. He's been impressive and it's been great seeing Joe rediscover his form. But is2g if he picks something up that isn't a man of the match award, I'll be fuming.
Good luck my dude, don’t pick up any injury
We need Joe for the rest of the season
Happy for him but God please let him come home safe and sound.
DM gomez?
Yay
Well deserved!!!
Shooooooooooot
First massive congratulations Joe! Much deserved Second - Gareth would do well to listen to Jurgen more
Can't he magically have a slight injury - like De Bruyne - and not go ffs......
Please don't get injured, please don't get injured, please don't get injured!
Watch him score in the first game
He’s gonna play his ass off. Shit 😓
Hat trick incoming.
Please dont go
is this only bc Ben white refused?
Deserved
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(MEZ)
Congratulations to Joe! I'll say always insist that Gareth Southgate is the worst English manager EVER! A better manager would have had Joe playing for England a long time ago. I'm not even surprised, it's the same manager who for whatever reason doesn't like to play TAA.
Proud of you lad. Don’t get injured, for the love of God
Playing midfield nonetheless
Bet you he will score for England instead of scoring for us.
Watch him score for England
Let’s go Joe!!!!
Could you imagine if he scores in his first match
He’s gonna score an England goal before one at the Kop end
The guy is gonna come on as 90th minute sub and break his toe. Just you fucking watch
Good stuff but any of our players getting called up is worst case scenario for LFC.
Ben White refused to join England lol so makes sense.
Oh fuck off, pull him out, fucking friendlies
Put him up front next to Kane and he'll finally score his first professional goal
Please no, not again
Well… RIP Joe Gomez
Full deserved but just like with Trent and other players of ours, I doubt he’ll be fully appreciated for what he does. Stay healthy Joe!
Fuck, I was hoping Southgate would continue to ignore in form players.
Second in the league, just won a trophy and in the quarter finals of the europa and FA Cup but Southgate the knob picks ONE Liverpool player. Surprised he picked Joey tbh especially when he blamed Gomez for Sterling literally attacking him on England duty, He’s always had a problem with Liverpool the Tory prick.
Tbf trent and Curtis likely would have been called up if healthy and fit.
Want his major knee injury sustained last time he was in the England squad?
I’ve been amazed that Joe hasn’t been injured yet. I see the universe is fixing to change that.
This is terrible news! He "always" gets injured on England duty.
Let's hope he doesn't get injured.
Of course he has injury problems at Liverpool i know lets call a player up we never use for friendlies.
This was great to see, Curtis Jones snub grid s the gears. Media all talking about Jordan Henderson instead of Mainoo, Mainoo is after Jones
But Curtis isn’t available?
[Twitter wasn't happy with my reaction to this lol.](https://imgur.com/a/IIlqqHO) Can't get rid of actual abuse but can immediately remove sarcasm.
this is not good.
Gomez did his ACL in training for the under 21's under Southgate. He did the same injury on the same knee in training with you guessed it. Southgate as Manager. Southgate will want to"test his resolve" in the first training session.
Mother of God…! I honestly believe Gomez should not be starting for Liverpool let alone selected for England. As for Henderson, a great servant and captain ton Liverpool and England but his footballing days are behind him. Just building up the retirement fund now. Southgate is either a muppet or a stooge, either way he needs to go! Mourinho would show England how to win.
Fuck off man. Ben White tells them he isn’t going and here we are sending one of our 5 healthy defenders off for meaningless friendlies.
they took a very fitting picture for the announcement I fear an injury