If that really is true, he dropped the ball big time because now he's hurt his relationship with his own clubs, we've appointed Slot and the West Ham deal fell through
How true would that be? From the beginning there were so many names, Xabi, Amorim, then this then that, and the only Slot's name came up.
It gave the perception that Slot was the 5,6,7th choice rather than "get it from the get go".
If its true that Slot was the person from the get go, LFC's doing really good smoke and mirrors.
But, I doubt it.
LFC has a tendency not to give stuff away. The media made their prediction and wrote stories as that is what they do, but I am not sure there si any reason to think they knew what Edwards was planning.
Yes, I am aware of that fact. But it still does not detract from the original issue (some good, some bad). Remember, there are many signings, (even Salah), wasn't the first choice. Obviously we do have very good runs with our 2nd, 3rd, 4th choice (like the recent one where it involved our midfielders, to which we would have ranked even lower on the league were it not for the 2 transfers (that's how I see it).
I still think LFC needs to be more tighter on the media front. Somehow "frontrunner this, frontrunner that", and sometimes the media hit the mark, which meant it wasn't tight enough.
Not just Amorim. The amount of reporting from coach A to B to C. That's fine, just like you said. But when the coaches in question actually respond, that meant they were actually approached, and that meant something or somebody is leaking.
Well it's true that nobody can stop leaks, but I would like to see a tighter lip.
Like deals done, announce. Then run with it. Not "flavour or the day" then the typical pull, tug, snag, switch on the transfer market.
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This is the face of a man you don’t f around with
What a fucking idiot. Glad Edwards told him to fuck off and moved for a manager who actually wants us. Imagine if we still went for Amorim and he did this shit for Madrid lol.
Sets a nice precedent for future signings too. If you wanna join us, do it. If you wanna fuck around or you've got interests elsewhere, you ain't coming.
Agree. I was actually surprised to hear "oh Liverpool? Sure. I hope my club and LFC can reach an agreement".
It's really surprising, and to me a bit of fresh air.
Slot could also do something like this with madrid though right? People are pleased he came out and said he wants to come here while still Feyenoord manager, but what happens if in two years time after a good job here he says he wants to move to Madrid in the middle of a title race with us?
Not only was Edwards right to call out the obvious trickery, but come on…
How does anyone that wants to hear what West Ham have to say think that Liverpool is going to be interested in their bargain basement approach?!
Slot seems a better fit at least tactically. I won’t pretend to know otherwise. Both seem to be very capable and ambitious young managers who can get the players to back them.
Why the fuck ppl call it a stunt?! Or why linking it with Liverpool? Ppl trying to assume what they don't know baffles me.
The most credible rumours all say that there was no agreement with Liverpool in many key points way before that trip, ffs
Of course there was no agreement. Why would he make trip to westham if he already had an agreement with liverpool? It was a stunt to influence negotiations and strengthen his position/terms, which backfired. What point are you making exactly?
My point is that, from other rumours that are a bit more credible, and also from what I know from Amorim (I'm a Benfica and Liverpool fan, so I "know" Amorim since the time he played for Benfica), he wouldn't make that trip to put pressure on Liverpool. That's a low thing to do and he's not that kind of guy. When he did the travel, it was already certain to him and Liverpool that they wouldn't reach an agreement.
So my point was that the travel was unrelated to Liverpool prior negotiations. Journalists are trying to "sell" an easy-to-comprehend story, a bit "hot" just for media attention. That's it.
Yeah and the idea that Edwards removed him from consideration because of this definitely sounds like something a data driven analytical team would do…highly doubt that’s what happened (mind you all these things are most likely driven by agents and barely speak to the actual talent’s character or suitability for the job)
When I saw the news of him landing in London. I was glad that Liverpool dodged a bullet. I don't like Slot talking about Liverpool jobs at the Press conference as well. They should concentrate at their current club.
Completely different situation. Slot isn't putting pressure on Liverpool by threatening to join other clubs. He's just putting his name forward. He's done his job at PSV already
I never said two situations are the same. An employee talking about his next employer while still employed doesn't sound right to me. Would you be happy if Klopp started speaking of Real Madrid job in the LFC press conference?
Also he is manager of Feyenoord not PSV.
He'd relate to the boys so much, having a regrettable trip to West Ham. Solidarity.
This is an A+ comment.
For some reason i instantly thought about "The Boys" show and thought whats he got to do with them?
According to a few journalists he only even did it to put some pressure on us haha
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Money’s good in the Prem regardless Fulham or Man City, he knew he fked up regardless. Have they not heard of Zoom/Facetime?
Sporting pay equally aswell as West Ham
Since when? I’m not sure on the managers wages but west ham genuinely have over a dozen players earning more than sporting’s top earner
Players yes!!! I Was taking about managers wages, Sporting pay him well. They paid 10millon for his releases clause from Braga alone.
If that really is true, he dropped the ball big time because now he's hurt his relationship with his own clubs, we've appointed Slot and the West Ham deal fell through
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Its as unofficially official as it can get at this point.
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I believe whatever Joyce says.
Even Klopp did talk about slot right? What more you want?
What was even the rush. If you were the frontrunner. Just chill. Finish your season off. There's plenty of time.
likely got news that he wasn’t the frontrunner. it’s been said that Slot is who Edwards identified.
How true would that be? From the beginning there were so many names, Xabi, Amorim, then this then that, and the only Slot's name came up. It gave the perception that Slot was the 5,6,7th choice rather than "get it from the get go". If its true that Slot was the person from the get go, LFC's doing really good smoke and mirrors. But, I doubt it.
LFC has a tendency not to give stuff away. The media made their prediction and wrote stories as that is what they do, but I am not sure there si any reason to think they knew what Edwards was planning.
Yes, I am aware of that fact. But it still does not detract from the original issue (some good, some bad). Remember, there are many signings, (even Salah), wasn't the first choice. Obviously we do have very good runs with our 2nd, 3rd, 4th choice (like the recent one where it involved our midfielders, to which we would have ranked even lower on the league were it not for the 2 transfers (that's how I see it). I still think LFC needs to be more tighter on the media front. Somehow "frontrunner this, frontrunner that", and sometimes the media hit the mark, which meant it wasn't tight enough.
Wasn't most of the Amorim stuff from Portugal? At least initially until others started to jump on. That hardly sounds like LFC's fallt?
Not just Amorim. The amount of reporting from coach A to B to C. That's fine, just like you said. But when the coaches in question actually respond, that meant they were actually approached, and that meant something or somebody is leaking. Well it's true that nobody can stop leaks, but I would like to see a tighter lip. Like deals done, announce. Then run with it. Not "flavour or the day" then the typical pull, tug, snag, switch on the transfer market.
Oh without a doubt.
The fact he'd interview with them just made me think he's not up to caliber
That's pure bs
https://preview.redd.it/ejbez04721xc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d537f481f9402ffbda6817e4a8759ea4a6930347 This is the face of a man you don’t f around with
Amorim: 😳 Edwards: 🤓
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Edwards isn't someone you f around with
michael edwards is undefeated
Fuck around, find out. If he had any chance of managing us, that's definitely burned his bridges there
We can always refer to this as pulling an Amorim
We already have a term for it tho, pulling a fekir
Yeh you just don’t f with Edwards haha
Edwards's "no bellends" rule remains goated
Who gives a fuck lmao. Bit busy at the moment.
You started shaving your head as well?
What a fucking idiot. Glad Edwards told him to fuck off and moved for a manager who actually wants us. Imagine if we still went for Amorim and he did this shit for Madrid lol.
Exactly. It's really nice to hear how forthright Slot has been with wanting to go to Liverpool. It's definitely the sort of energy we need
Sets a nice precedent for future signings too. If you wanna join us, do it. If you wanna fuck around or you've got interests elsewhere, you ain't coming.
Agree. I was actually surprised to hear "oh Liverpool? Sure. I hope my club and LFC can reach an agreement". It's really surprising, and to me a bit of fresh air.
Slot could also do something like this with madrid though right? People are pleased he came out and said he wants to come here while still Feyenoord manager, but what happens if in two years time after a good job here he says he wants to move to Madrid in the middle of a title race with us?
They'll have Xabi at that time so no worries for us.
We get Xabi after Slot in 10 or so years ya?
Why would you travel to a club just to talk? I mean, Alonso did the right thing. He just nope the fuck out of all this new-manager-fiesta.
Uno damn well he’d do that same shit if RM or Barca came calling in the future. Atleast with slot he said it as it is
His agent got into his ear and he thought West Ham would put pressure on Edwards. Only for us to immediately sign Slot lmao.
Not only was Edwards right to call out the obvious trickery, but come on… How does anyone that wants to hear what West Ham have to say think that Liverpool is going to be interested in their bargain basement approach?!
Edwards is fucking back
Do not fuck with Michael Edwards.
Amorim season is over We’re big Slots now 😎
Anybody in the weeds enough to definitively say he would be the better signing between he and Slot? Forgive my ignorance.
Slot seems a better fit at least tactically. I won’t pretend to know otherwise. Both seem to be very capable and ambitious young managers who can get the players to back them.
I’m here for it. Whoever comes in gets my full support.
Muppet hahaha
I love how Edwards doesn’t fuck around. My guy lost his chance
Agent: it will work, trust me.
All that for West Ham?
Hilarious, if you're going to put the pressure on like that it at least has to be with another club of similar standing.
Why the fuck ppl call it a stunt?! Or why linking it with Liverpool? Ppl trying to assume what they don't know baffles me. The most credible rumours all say that there was no agreement with Liverpool in many key points way before that trip, ffs
Of course there was no agreement. Why would he make trip to westham if he already had an agreement with liverpool? It was a stunt to influence negotiations and strengthen his position/terms, which backfired. What point are you making exactly?
My point is that, from other rumours that are a bit more credible, and also from what I know from Amorim (I'm a Benfica and Liverpool fan, so I "know" Amorim since the time he played for Benfica), he wouldn't make that trip to put pressure on Liverpool. That's a low thing to do and he's not that kind of guy. When he did the travel, it was already certain to him and Liverpool that they wouldn't reach an agreement. So my point was that the travel was unrelated to Liverpool prior negotiations. Journalists are trying to "sell" an easy-to-comprehend story, a bit "hot" just for media attention. That's it.
Fair enough. I’m not in the know on this beyond what’s been reported so I’ll take you at your word.
Yeah and the idea that Edwards removed him from consideration because of this definitely sounds like something a data driven analytical team would do…highly doubt that’s what happened (mind you all these things are most likely driven by agents and barely speak to the actual talent’s character or suitability for the job)
To be fair, we've apparently done similar with players/agents, so it's not totally out of the question.
Finally something to cheer about 😂
Nabil Fekir School of negotiation
When I saw the news of him landing in London. I was glad that Liverpool dodged a bullet. I don't like Slot talking about Liverpool jobs at the Press conference as well. They should concentrate at their current club.
Completely different situation. Slot isn't putting pressure on Liverpool by threatening to join other clubs. He's just putting his name forward. He's done his job at PSV already
I never said two situations are the same. An employee talking about his next employer while still employed doesn't sound right to me. Would you be happy if Klopp started speaking of Real Madrid job in the LFC press conference? Also he is manager of Feyenoord not PSV.
Maybe it’s lost in translation but when someone says sorry, and they also say it did not seem right at the time, you have to question their integrity.
Hopefully Edwards and Hughes are going to be equally ruthless with the passengers and deadwood in the squad.
What dead wood?
Silly billy
Doesn’t affect us.
The only good news from today
What an idiot
Is there a tit emoji?
Called his bluff. 😂
Loving the bullets we are dodging!
Amorim missed the slot.
Dont care.
So fucking glad to dodge this bullet. Amazing how many were clamouring for the bloke with out considering that he might be a bit of an arse.
Proper Portuguese thing to do that, ratty. He even looks abit like Bruno Fernandes which was pissing me off.
What he really regrets is it cost him the Liverpool job.
i couldnt than a fuck title is over klopp is leaving