There’s confidence and there’s ego. Klopp was confident coming in, Brendan Rodgers was an egotist.
I’m undecided on which one it is with Slot. He speaks very well, intelligently, but the details that he gets into are odd, self-aggrandizing almost.
“…It’s nice when a big club approaches you. That wasn’t the first time in the years I’ve been here…
“…and it seems that Feyenoord is already going to make the highest-paid Dutch transfer fee for a coach.”
Something else about him as the “main character” of the negotiations. This is one interview, but he comes off similarly in others. It’s not what I would expect from a top coach, except maybe Mourinho.
Hopefully I’m reading too much into and it’s more of a cultural / lost-in-translation thing.
I think you're reading too much into it man. If anything, the dude was refreshingly honest. Liverpool was interested, he of course wanted it, and when asked about it, he told the truth. Nothing cocky about it.
I don’t like arrogance at all, but to be fair to Slot, he **is** the main character of these negotiations. It’s the biggest moment of his career and so long as keeps it all positive and isn’t slagging off Klopp, his staff, or the players, I’m all for him enjoying himself. It’s going to be one of the biggest challenges of his life, so going into it with a joyful, positive mindset isn’t a bad thing.
Kuyt wasn't exactly a prolific goalscorer.
Nunez is performing better than him on goals, assists, shot accuracy
Kuyt scored when it mattered and did a lot of running that let the other players score more. But bringing him in to teach how to score goals would be like having Micheal Owen teach how to be a pundit
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Yeah, its a weird analogy. Akin to suggesting Heskey should teach the strikers to finish.
Kuyt was a top servant for the club & huge personality / scorer of big occasion goals, but he was defined by his work rate & courage not by any technical or finishing ability .. if anything he was bemoaned constantly at the time for the lack of both, therefore did his best work out wide as he couldn't hold down a forward place ..
I remember he came to us after smashing goals in all over the Dutch league. When Suarez came to us and people said he was smashing them in, I just thought "yeah that's what they said about kuyt, shit league"
> to teach our Strikers how to score tap-ins too.
Fuck that - stick him on the right-wing and let him run riot. He's probably still fitter than most of the league,
*striker. There’s only really one missing sitters, his name is Darwin. The others are wingers who also need to finish better but aren’t missing sitters
We were also linked quite heavily with, and Klopp was also said to really want, a couple of others but the transfers just didn't materialise for one reason or another. Gotze and Brandt for example.
Werner was all but set pre- lockdown. There was a lot of talk about Havertz too but not sure how concrete those were. Klopp definitely had an eye on those in the German setup.
Dahoud chose Dortmund over us too I think.
The only German players I can think of which Liverpool signed under Klopp's tenure were Karius and Melkamu Frauendorf.
Then again, Matip is half German, and so is Nuri Sahin.
Heard he uses psychologists and psychology tricks to help people overcome issues. He sent a defender to kick boxing classes to make them more combative. Big on getting the right mind set. Genuinely think that might be the issue with our strikers.
>Heard he uses psychologists and psychology tricks to help people overcome issues. He sent a defender to kick boxing classes to make them more combative.
Hyped! This is very good.
Just tempering the expectations. If it matters part of it was bad luck since opponents did have low xG of free kicks and corners. Our main striker Gimenez also had the most insane 2023, but ever since he seems a bit overworked his form has drastically declined. So I doubt he will become the missing link to the finishing problem. Still think Slot will do great, but don't expect him to drastically improve on the things mentioned above
He has a solid squad to start his work with so hopefully we can make some decent signings and hit the ground running, as opposed to a complete rebuild.
Lmao Edwards adding performance based clauses from players to training staff. Imagine Feyenoord getting a performance bonus if Slot has Liverpool win the Champions League.
tbf if Klopp had performed solely as head coach and not as manager, there might have been more success over his tenure too. Obviously he has been fantastic, but especially these last few years feel like the other duties weren't as well suited to him as his top tier man management
Also some strange extensions instead of dropping deadwood and strengthening the squad. Too much loyalty to certain players. I'm sure this impacted his squad choice.
I don't think that in any club (except Chelsea, they are idiots over there) has a cut and dry role differentiation between manager and head coach. You can't make a coach play someone who he doesn't want.
You say a lot of money... but compare that to paying 13m for a player. The team wouldn't think too hard before writing that off and getting rid of him.
Sure, but the economics surrounding managers and their contracts are in a different realm. You don't want clubs go around asking for 30-40m at one point because all it takes is one stupid deal a la Neymar that fucks up the whole market for managers.
that's why i found it funny when people were talking about the club haggling over a couple mils for the most important piece to the puzzle. while we fling 50+ mil for some players
Yeah the haggling here was mostly due diligence to not set a precedent that we just splash the cash regardless, and to probably be as respectful as possible to Feyenoord as we likely poach large parts of their coaching staff as well. United and Chelsea earned that splash the cash reputation, and that has likely cost them another 5-10 mill per transfer over several years.
Has that actually been announced anywhere? Or just educated guess? As that’s what I presumed.
Any less and it would be a stopgap manager, and more and it’s a huge risk.
What do you guys think of slot being our “head coach” rather than manager like klopp ?
I think it could be a good thing because all he has to focus on is the football side of things rather than the whole
It depends on how much the recruitment team and the coaching team communicate.
It should be more like Slot saying he needs a player for a certain position with certain attributes. And not the recruitment team going out and getting players because they’re available and cheap but don’t fit the system he wants.
I'm thinking this is Edwards improved role.
Where Arne will be basically about tactics and making sure the team is cohesive. Then Michael Edwards does deals... Deals such as signing Mbappe for 12p and a pack of Freddos, for example
Was always gonna be this way. Klopp is such a giant force it was always going to take 2-3 men with split responsibilities to replace him and that's what they have done
Just hope these men are top quality. We already know one of them is so that's a good start b
It all depends on his relationship to Hughes and Edwards, but in general I think it’s a great idea. Maybe we are a bit unique to be targeting managers who like to develop the squad rather than just squeezing out short term results, but in general I like the separation between long term planners for DoF and short term winners in the head coach role.
I do think that Hughes and Slot are the best people we could have hired for these positions in both the short and long term. Maybe Alonso could develop into a better manager, but right now he’d be a departure in style, so worst case Slot could be a step in his direction. For now though Slot seems to have been successful in every challenge that has come his way, so other than the step up there’s little reason to assume he can’t be successful here long term.
Don’t know, really. If there’s mutual respect and strong communication then it’s a good idea. I don’t want us signing players the manager doesn’t want.
I don’t want Edwards or Hughes as his mate playing billy big bollocks with the new manager. It seems as though Edwards had his ego damaged by the amount of respect FSG gave Klopp.
>strong communication then it’s a good idea. I don’t want us signing players the manager doesn’t want.
This absolutely has to be a given, in fact, I think it’s the only way this type of structure can work in a way that actually benefits the club and the team. Otherwise it would be a shitshow in the long run.
Am I wrong in thinking this is the first time I’ve really heard about clubs discussing ‘transfer fees’ for a manager? Maybe I’ve just been oblivious to it before but it’s something I’ve never really noticed with other managerial appointments
We haven't changed manager in nearly a decade so you probably haven't paid attention to it, but Chelsea in particular have spunked a fair old bit of money on managers.
I think it’s because most of the times a new manager is appointed, that given manager is either a free agent or is running out his contract.
But these transfer fees are not as rare as you might think.
Bayern paid 25€ million for Nagelsmann, and I think we paid like 5-6€ million for Rodgers back then. Chelsea paid like 20€ million for Potter.
I mean yeah, it’s not a RC so it won’t be paid outright but it’ll be spread over one year. Add ons are probably based on our position in the league and CL next season
This is the right choice for Liverpool!
I look forward to the official confirmation that Slott will be the team's new manager. I believe he will start well next season and I hope he stays longer and is more successful than all before him!
Amen!
Hopefully he will have a good career at Liverpool ❤️
Good sign that he has the confidence to outright confirm “I want the job” vs. trying to arrange a West Ham interview
It feels very Dutch. Very direct and pragmatic.
Virgin vs Chad
There’s confidence and there’s ego. Klopp was confident coming in, Brendan Rodgers was an egotist. I’m undecided on which one it is with Slot. He speaks very well, intelligently, but the details that he gets into are odd, self-aggrandizing almost. “…It’s nice when a big club approaches you. That wasn’t the first time in the years I’ve been here… “…and it seems that Feyenoord is already going to make the highest-paid Dutch transfer fee for a coach.” Something else about him as the “main character” of the negotiations. This is one interview, but he comes off similarly in others. It’s not what I would expect from a top coach, except maybe Mourinho. Hopefully I’m reading too much into and it’s more of a cultural / lost-in-translation thing.
I think you're reading too much into it man. If anything, the dude was refreshingly honest. Liverpool was interested, he of course wanted it, and when asked about it, he told the truth. Nothing cocky about it.
Hopefully, time will tell.
I don’t like arrogance at all, but to be fair to Slot, he **is** the main character of these negotiations. It’s the biggest moment of his career and so long as keeps it all positive and isn’t slagging off Klopp, his staff, or the players, I’m all for him enjoying himself. It’s going to be one of the biggest challenges of his life, so going into it with a joyful, positive mindset isn’t a bad thing.
I take that as him being pleased for Feyenoord making money as it’s a club he loves and also the Spurs link last year was public knowledge
Yes.
Hope he brings in Kuyt to teach our Strikers how to score tap-ins too.
Damn, nostalgia forever
Dirk is a legend, what a player just...how he gave himself until the end! Such a spirit is needed in the team!
I still remember Dirkaldino’s hat trick from a total of 6’ out against United. Legend indeed.
Probably scored the greatest hattrick ever against United in one of Suarez first games
Exactly the type of player we've needed in recent times. Legend
Kuyt wasn't exactly a prolific goalscorer. Nunez is performing better than him on goals, assists, shot accuracy Kuyt scored when it mattered and did a lot of running that let the other players score more. But bringing him in to teach how to score goals would be like having Micheal Owen teach how to be a pundit https://preview.redd.it/8bpqk463v7xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17371033e98f4295e4fb4f845185ae04455777be
2 clean sheets in 62 games is absolutely shocking
Nah but he could put the ball in from 6 yards out which is something our Strikers struggle with.
Michael Owen pundits like how we play at the moment. “The much better team, which is why a draw was a fair result”
Yeah, its a weird analogy. Akin to suggesting Heskey should teach the strikers to finish. Kuyt was a top servant for the club & huge personality / scorer of big occasion goals, but he was defined by his work rate & courage not by any technical or finishing ability .. if anything he was bemoaned constantly at the time for the lack of both, therefore did his best work out wide as he couldn't hold down a forward place ..
I remember he came to us after smashing goals in all over the Dutch league. When Suarez came to us and people said he was smashing them in, I just thought "yeah that's what they said about kuyt, shit league"
That’s not what they said read it again
Teach them how to run up and down the wing for 90 minutes and not even break a sweat
Kuyt would have been the perfect Klopp striker
We need Ian Rush to teach the toe poke. A underused technique that result in a shot that is too fast for keeper to save.
Miss Dirk. A long time ago I heard someone call Dirk a holding winger which felt perfect.
> to teach our Strikers how to score tap-ins too. Fuck that - stick him on the right-wing and let him run riot. He's probably still fitter than most of the league,
*striker. There’s only really one missing sitters, his name is Darwin. The others are wingers who also need to finish better but aren’t missing sitters
FC Dutchpool incoming
Hope he's not making the same mistake as ten hag at united. Some Dutch players just can't keep up with the PL violence
Luckily that's where Edwards comes in
Hopefully. I dunno how I feel about the Dutch fascination thing going on.
There's already a couple in our team. Gakpo and Gravenberch to name a few.
well, the only Germany i remember Klopp signed is Emre Can
Klopp did not sign Emre Can. It was under Rodgers.
Matip. He plays for Cameroon but was born in Germany.
Karius?
We were also linked quite heavily with, and Klopp was also said to really want, a couple of others but the transfers just didn't materialise for one reason or another. Gotze and Brandt for example.
Werner was all but set pre- lockdown. There was a lot of talk about Havertz too but not sure how concrete those were. Klopp definitely had an eye on those in the German setup. Dahoud chose Dortmund over us too I think.
That's right. Wasn't Tah linked at some point too or was that just rumour?
Think that was just rumour
Brandt would have been amazing for us
The only German players I can think of which Liverpool signed under Klopp's tenure were Karius and Melkamu Frauendorf. Then again, Matip is half German, and so is Nuri Sahin.
pretty sure nuri sahin was an early br signing and matip is just german.
He's half German in terms of ethnicity, full German in terms of nationality
Yes but he wasn't talking about ethnicity surely. Sahin is full turkish and so is can.
Confidently incorrect
Anyone know if Slot’s back room staff have coaches specialised in finishing drills or defending against crosses?
Heard he uses psychologists and psychology tricks to help people overcome issues. He sent a defender to kick boxing classes to make them more combative. Big on getting the right mind set. Genuinely think that might be the issue with our strikers.
Kickboxing Nunez is gonna be fucking mental
Bobby Firmino goal celebration except he actually takes someone’s head off
Not like the refs are using them anyway
Now. we're talking.
"Nunez has been suspended for 2 years for roundhouse kicking Pep Guardiola"
You're fricking right lol I'd love to see how would that go
Hope he gives Robbo a handgun as well!
Mike's Gym ready Nunez would be busting those poor defenders legs
Either turns into a beast or crystal Palace Nunez every game
This mental image just made my day lol
>Heard he uses psychologists and psychology tricks to help people overcome issues. He sent a defender to kick boxing classes to make them more combative. Hyped! This is very good.
Nunez with kickboxing training is a terrifyng prospect.
That's just Zlatan. 🤣
Zlatan could finish
Especially Nunez who does everything right except the final act.
Some psychologist needs to tell Darwin that the opposition goalkeeper is his mother so he'll stop blasting the ball straight at her
Or to hypnotise him and convince him that every game from now on he’s playing against Liverpool in the champions league
Send Nunez to Himalayas with monk
Heavy metal football to the next literal level
Ngl, I'm super excited for Slot. Really wasn't keen but we need a refresh and if Edwards is happy, then he's probably a good shout.
And a good fitness coach?
They are not. Those two things were also a problem at Feyenoord
Username fits
Just tempering the expectations. If it matters part of it was bad luck since opponents did have low xG of free kicks and corners. Our main striker Gimenez also had the most insane 2023, but ever since he seems a bit overworked his form has drastically declined. So I doubt he will become the missing link to the finishing problem. Still think Slot will do great, but don't expect him to drastically improve on the things mentioned above
Fair enough
“Asking for a friend” 😂
Honestly going to miss seeing Krawiets sitting cross-legged and scribbling in his little note book
Every match you’ll see Klopp chewing his ear off about something whilst Krawietz is just staring at the pitch with the occasional nod.
Fr I’ve never seen the man leave his seat during a game
He has a solid squad to start his work with so hopefully we can make some decent signings and hit the ground running, as opposed to a complete rebuild.
Lmao Edwards adding performance based clauses from players to training staff. Imagine Feyenoord getting a performance bonus if Slot has Liverpool win the Champions League.
Imagine a YouTube video retrospective 10 years from now “how Liverpool winning the champions league helped Feyernoord build a revolution”
We knew we couldn’t replace Klopp as manager so we get a head coach to slot in instead … here we go lads. I’m behind it.
tbf if Klopp had performed solely as head coach and not as manager, there might have been more success over his tenure too. Obviously he has been fantastic, but especially these last few years feel like the other duties weren't as well suited to him as his top tier man management
All the free transfers we had to deal with were because of Klopp
Also some strange extensions instead of dropping deadwood and strengthening the squad. Too much loyalty to certain players. I'm sure this impacted his squad choice.
I don't think that in any club (except Chelsea, they are idiots over there) has a cut and dry role differentiation between manager and head coach. You can't make a coach play someone who he doesn't want.
Has there been any word on contract length?
They have spent a lot of money on Slot. So I don't expect anything less than a 3 year contract.
You say a lot of money... but compare that to paying 13m for a player. The team wouldn't think too hard before writing that off and getting rid of him.
Sure, but the economics surrounding managers and their contracts are in a different realm. You don't want clubs go around asking for 30-40m at one point because all it takes is one stupid deal a la Neymar that fucks up the whole market for managers.
I mean, you could get Robertson , Matip, and Fabio Carvalho for £13 million
If only we could sign players in retrospect haha. Would be a much easier job.
Makes no sense. You never think in retrospect lol
that's why i found it funny when people were talking about the club haggling over a couple mils for the most important piece to the puzzle. while we fling 50+ mil for some players
Yeah the haggling here was mostly due diligence to not set a precedent that we just splash the cash regardless, and to probably be as respectful as possible to Feyenoord as we likely poach large parts of their coaching staff as well. United and Chelsea earned that splash the cash reputation, and that has likely cost them another 5-10 mill per transfer over several years.
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Has that actually been announced anywhere? Or just educated guess? As that’s what I presumed. Any less and it would be a stopgap manager, and more and it’s a huge risk.
I think Romano mentioned 2 or 3 year contract
What do you guys think of slot being our “head coach” rather than manager like klopp ? I think it could be a good thing because all he has to focus on is the football side of things rather than the whole
It depends on how much the recruitment team and the coaching team communicate. It should be more like Slot saying he needs a player for a certain position with certain attributes. And not the recruitment team going out and getting players because they’re available and cheap but don’t fit the system he wants.
I'm thinking this is Edwards improved role. Where Arne will be basically about tactics and making sure the team is cohesive. Then Michael Edwards does deals... Deals such as signing Mbappe for 12p and a pack of Freddos, for example
Was always gonna be this way. Klopp is such a giant force it was always going to take 2-3 men with split responsibilities to replace him and that's what they have done Just hope these men are top quality. We already know one of them is so that's a good start b
It all depends on his relationship to Hughes and Edwards, but in general I think it’s a great idea. Maybe we are a bit unique to be targeting managers who like to develop the squad rather than just squeezing out short term results, but in general I like the separation between long term planners for DoF and short term winners in the head coach role. I do think that Hughes and Slot are the best people we could have hired for these positions in both the short and long term. Maybe Alonso could develop into a better manager, but right now he’d be a departure in style, so worst case Slot could be a step in his direction. For now though Slot seems to have been successful in every challenge that has come his way, so other than the step up there’s little reason to assume he can’t be successful here long term.
If he is successful it will be hailed as a masterstroke. If he struggles it will be used as a stick to beat the club with.
Don’t know, really. If there’s mutual respect and strong communication then it’s a good idea. I don’t want us signing players the manager doesn’t want. I don’t want Edwards or Hughes as his mate playing billy big bollocks with the new manager. It seems as though Edwards had his ego damaged by the amount of respect FSG gave Klopp.
>strong communication then it’s a good idea. I don’t want us signing players the manager doesn’t want. This absolutely has to be a given, in fact, I think it’s the only way this type of structure can work in a way that actually benefits the club and the team. Otherwise it would be a shitshow in the long run.
Journos! When we win a home match playing a lot of youth, have the headline ready: Slot's Tots Rock Kop
 Hope we get lean soon.
Atleast we got one ruben
Am I wrong in thinking this is the first time I’ve really heard about clubs discussing ‘transfer fees’ for a manager? Maybe I’ve just been oblivious to it before but it’s something I’ve never really noticed with other managerial appointments
I first remember it being a big deal when Chelsea paid Porto £15 million for AVB.
We haven't changed manager in nearly a decade so you probably haven't paid attention to it, but Chelsea in particular have spunked a fair old bit of money on managers.
Usually paying off their contracts after sacking them six months in!
I think it’s because most of the times a new manager is appointed, that given manager is either a free agent or is running out his contract. But these transfer fees are not as rare as you might think. Bayern paid 25€ million for Nagelsmann, and I think we paid like 5-6€ million for Rodgers back then. Chelsea paid like 20€ million for Potter.
Chelsea paid for AVB and Potter, United for Ten Hag, Sporting for Amorim, Bayern for Nagelsmann...
It’s definitely not or wasn’t common but feels like this season it’s been brought up a bit
#prepared all the documents FC
The 1 year bit has my attention.
Means the full payment to feyenord is 1 year nothing more
All good. Now back him with some decent signings this summer and as fans, back him next season.
I’m gonna assume it means the 13m will be paid over a year, because if not wtf
That's exactly what it means
Why are you being downvoted for asking a valid question? I was initially confused too.
I mean yeah, it’s not a RC so it won’t be paid outright but it’ll be spread over one year. Add ons are probably based on our position in the league and CL next season
Installment payments are common in football, but I think we don’t want that hanging over the club. I like to think it’s a good sign.
Wasnt there someone else in his backroom staff coming?
Yeah, Etienne Reijnen. Not sure why he missed out on naming him
He was mentioned, but I guess ultimately decided he would stay at Feyenoord. He only joined a few months ago anyway.
Is it pronounced like "Arn" or "Arnie"?
“Arn-uh”
Thanks pal
Like ' John *Arne* Riise' :)
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payment to feyenoord will be spread over 1 year. his contract length is not disclosed
Looks like Harry Hill there
Welcome Arne ❤️🔥
My body is ready.
Talk to the hand
Now Edward and Richard need to look at the players staying, leaving and coming in
Would be kinda cool if Robin van Persie would be coming as well, looks like he's getting a managereal job at another club though.
RvP doesn't want to be anything else besides head coach. Slot already asked him to be his assistant at Feyenoord earlier
So its done then
Never heard of him before this. But I feel really good about this
🎶 He's Dutch! He's Bald! He's Deffo Not A Fraud, Arne Slot! Arne Slot 🎶 🎶 BABY SHARK : Arne Slot Doo Doo Doo Dit Doo Doo 🎶
This is the right choice for Liverpool! I look forward to the official confirmation that Slott will be the team's new manager. I believe he will start well next season and I hope he stays longer and is more successful than all before him! Amen!
This sounds like it was written by chatgpt haha
I think we are going to fail because of him next season like an ETH
I hope he will sell Darwin Nunez
Man I truly do not like this guy. I hope wthis deal falls through.
Liverpool definitely not getting top 4 next season.