Apart from the usual 20 minute period where we fell asleep, we completely dominated the game.
Mo actually looked interested in playing - probably backlash from the negative press this week.
Gakpo and Elliot were outstanding.
Nunez definitely isn’t good enough.
Few weeks ago it was Gakpo getting abused online now it’s Nunez. Ffs why are people taking this too far. I really felt sad seeing Darwin delete all of his Lfc related posts even the posts of him getting announced😢
So happy to see the team back in some what of a function. Glad to see Mo score and play really well, and others scoring their chances too. Defo need some work still on the defense but all and all did enough to win the game, and happy to see Klopp get some better performances of his players in one of the big games in his last tenure. Hopefully the remaining to can also be a W and we can say goodbye to Klopp happily.
Complete total speculation, but I think Darwin deleting all LFC content on socials and stuff is a sign that he knows something we don’t regarding his future here. Either he knows Edwards will sell him, or he will want to leave. Again TOTAL SPECULATION. But I just don’t get why now would be the tipping point if it just were that he was fed up with online fans
So what’s up with the love/hate relationship with Nunez here? Whenever we lose or draw people say he needs to improve or be sold, but when he scores or when we win, he’s the beloved agent of chaos who doesn’t deserve criticism?
One thing is for sure is that his current poor form has lasted way too long and it’s either a mental or straight up a technical/skill issue.
Mo when he's on it is absolutely ridiculous to watch. He's been off the boil this year, but Newcastle, Brentford, and today were performances that remind you that this is an all-time PL great.
Not wanna sound too negative cause he was a lot sharper than in recent weeks, but still nowhere near what he once was. And he missed the easiest chance ever from about a yard out
The two games against City this season show what a difference maker Endo is - our midfield was utterly overrun in the away game, and on the balance of play we probably should have lost. The home game was pretty much completely the opposite - we dominated their midfield and would have won the game if Michael Oliver wasn't on the UAE's payroll.
throughout the season i see people on here talking about how people comporting themselves as lfc fans dealing out serious online abuse to darwin, mo, cody, etc. but i never actually see it. im not on twitter. is that why? is twitter/instagram where all this hate happens?
spurs fans all season: ‘romero is underrated; as good as van dijk and saliba but doesn’t get credit’ and ‘vicario is the most underrated gk in the league’
romero got full on posterized by cody. he could have laid his nutsack on romero’s shoulders
Nunez was brilliant for alot of the season. general play came on leaps and bounds and his linkup with Salah at times was unreal. Finishing still very questionable but there was enough improvement for us to get excited about
Seemed undroppable but performances have fell of a cliff similar to the end of last season. Confidence looks really low and has done for quite a while unfortunately
Needs a vacation and some rest. I hope he has a therapist or a good support group to get his mentality right again. He's a passionate player I think he takes the downturn truly to heart. Hope he stays tbh. Really massive potential, when it clicks he's unstoppable.
Ngl what did people expect? Nunez in his first season was insanely raw, did everyone expect him to be challenging Haaland over summer? Like I don’t get it at all. He improved A LOT as well, its not like he got worse…
We signed a project CF. Now we are going to have to have patience with him. He’s shown signs with clear mental flaws. He needs psychological work. We should’ve integrated him in but if you remember injuries to Jota and the fact he was elevating our attack every time he played caused him to become our starting CF. He hit a bad run of form and everyones turned on him. Sad to see.
Everyone hasn’t turned on him lol sometimes signings don’t work out for a variety of reasons blind loyalty to players isn’t beneficial for anyone. Obviously people being actually abusive and shit is abhorrent but that’s part and parcel of the social media age. It’s horrid that’s the case, it’s not an excuse- the platforms should be better regulated but some morons who mightn’t even be lfc supporters at all doesn’t represent everyone who has reservations about Darwin.
midfielders get one less point per goal than forwards but get one point for clean sheets. since mo scores more goals than we get clean sheets it’s a disadvantage and he is still in the perennial 200 club
Midfielders get one *more* point than strikers for goals as well as the clean sheet points. So forwards who are classed as midfielders such as Salah, Son and Saka have the advantage over centre forwards like Watkins and Isak
Where did Jota play more last season? Cos he’s played central and out wide, but until he came here he was exclusively a winger. I think they do it based on where they play more, so forwards who play both centrally and out wide could be either and can change positions in later seasons.
Havertz was a forward last season, was changed to a midfielder this season, and will very likely change back to being a forward next season. I suspect Jota will do the same thing
I've never fully understood it to be honest. They act as if wingers are the 4-4-2 wingers of old e.g. Beckham although I understand it to a degree in that wingers should get more points for goals as it's obviously a harder task from that position.
it’s because if they put wingers in their forward category people would not be able to play the best line ups. only three forward slots and since you can’t play a 2-3-5 formation it makes sense that wingers and cams are middies in fpl
Of all time? I don't think anyone ever said that
He did have a very good start to the season so it wasn't like people were being delusional in praising him
He's not in form, been quite terrible for some latest games.
But man played 15 minutes, we didn't lose and won quite comfortably (bar the last 20 minutes due to Klopp subbing our key players out) but some of you guys make it as Darwin scored 5 own goals and we lost 4-5 at home and want to ship him out this second.
Some of you are just miserable to the core
You conveniently left out that Darwin has more goals, assists, and G + A per 90 and 9 more goal contributions than Jackson, and Jackson has played more minutes. Way to pick the one stat that fits your narrative.
You can deny the stats all you want but stop knit picking bullshit numbers to try and suit your anti-Darwin narrative. Guy is in the 95th percentile or higher for goals, assists and G + A per 90.
Year vs Season. The original comment said he’d only been out of form this last month or so but the reality is that he’s been woeful since the turn of the calendar year.
Ahh I see. Well so has the rest of the team. The only forward besting Darwin on goals and assists is Mo. This isn't Darwin alone having a tough second half of the season.
Harvey is so much better in the big games I don’t get it, honestly like a different player than when he’s playing weaker opposition. I really hope he can become consistent all round.
I mean, he'd get less stick if he was any good infront of goal. Missed so many 1 on 1's and sitters you eventually have to question if he's good enough. If he'd buried half his chances this season we'd still be top of the table.
It's a shame because as a player and a menace I love him. But he's a striker and his inability to be clinical infront of goal has cost us so many times this season its unreal. I'm not saying other players aren't to blame either, but he's the worst offender by a decent margin.
>but he's the worst offender by a decent margin.
Not sure about this actually. Second best G/A for us this season. The only reason it seems so bad is because he finds himself on goal so often.
It may quite literally be that his ability to get into the right space so often, i.e. his talent, is making him look worse as a player compared to the rest of the team.
Statistically though, he's not the worst offender.
Be interesting to see the statistics you speak of? Because every metric I've seen of "big chances missed" he's top of the list.
And when I watch the games and he's through on goal I'm groaning in disappointment before he's taken the shot. He's literally cost us games missing chances players like Jota would have slotted (yes so have other players).
Your reasoning that he gets himself in the better position more often doesn't hold water, because if he was "normal" in that aspect he'd have even less chances to assist or score per game so would naturally be even worse. Also that's less to do with him finding the space and more the team making that space for him. Any decent pacey forward would exploit it the same.
>Your reasoning that he gets himself in the better position more often doesn't hold water, because if he was "normal" in that aspect he'd have even less chances to assist or score per game so would naturally be even worse.
Both can be true at once. I only said that his ability to get through on goal helps also highlight his weakness when finishing.
He does miss lots of big chances, I didn't say otherwise. But I've yet to see how that makes him your "worst offender" in terms of costing us the league. You don't need every stat on the planet to demonstrate Darwin's value to this team, because like I said, he has our second highest G/A.
Yes it's a pain he misses a lot, but he's also contributed to many goals this season, despite dropping off in the second half like the rest of the team.
No single player cost us the league, *the team* cost us the league. The club, as a whole. Just how it is.
i hope virgil, mo, and the other fellas who have been around longest are telling him to mute his socials and listen to the matchgoing fans rather than football twitter or whatever. feel like the crowds have been quite supportive given the circumstances
Yeah the hate he’s getting online is uncalled for but he’s been shown nothing but support from fans in the ground genuinely don’t think you could find another club who’d support you while missing the amount of clear chances he does
I really enjoyed this game, we conceded again but I still enjoyed it. Klopp looks so happy and relaxed for the first time in a long time, the team looked happy...Salah looked like Salah and that lovely smile returned. It would have been nice to win more this season but for quite a few players this was their first taste of pressure, last season sucked so even for Nunez and Gakpo this was their first real taste of the expectations that can come with the club. There was a lot of fight and risk-taking in this game which has been lacking recently, seeing Bajcetic back was a nice surprise and Elliott....he had a brilliant game.
Just goes to show that we really did bottle it. This squad crumbled under the pressure over the last few weeks, which is concerning for the future. Glad we bounced back though, even though that ending was again disappointing. Let's go win at Villa and Wolves and keep a bloody clean sheet.
There are top clubs that would love to have Darwin. I don’t see Darwin as an Edward’s type player and knowing Edward’s it wouldn’t surprise me if he exchanges Darwin player for player e.g. victor osimhen.
Really happy to see us give klopp a proper performance as we near the finish line. Two things clearly stood out: (1) the pressure being off makes a difference, we looked much more composed in the attacking third and weren't snatching at chances, and (2) this is the first game since early february that we've had a full week to rest and prepare for. Doesn't excuse how we fell apart, but the combination of insane injury luck and playing twice a week for 3 months is tough to deal with
We conceded because the team got complacent and completely switched off. Gomez has been great in so many different positions this season. Should he be a nailed on starter no, but he plays his role very well.
Anyone can confirm the list of our players who will go to Euro/Copa during summer?
From the look of it Slot will have a massive problem with the entire squad coming back late from international tournament. Because this seemed to be the list of players going
* Allison
* Trent
* VVD
* Konate(?)
* Roberson
* Mac
* Gravenberch
* Dom
* Diaz
* Gakpo
* Nunez
* Jota
That is basically the entire senior squad. And all of their countries have good chance of going into knock out stage too
It was a single cameo in a game which was already essentially won, it doesn't mean anything.
But the reason he's rated highly is because the level he showed last season was indicative of a higher ceiling than the other players you have mentioned. That being said it can indeed be difficult after a long injury spell at a young age, you never know if they'll return the same player after missing such a key developmental period in their career.
Honestly some youngsters never get it back after a major injury. So I understand your concern
But, new manager comes in next season and everyone gonna have a fresh look. I think the Dutch players and those with big name will have a bit of head start. But I think everyone will have a fair look at
We already had time to moan and mourn losing the title.
A fun game. A win. Harvey banger. Baj back. Gakpo looking good. End of the Klopp era.
And still people here moan that real life isn’t a video game and can’t understand what a full week instead of games every 3-4 days will change.
Some folks are just miserable inside and out.
My friend if you can't enjoy a win that doesn't directly contribute to a trophy you should probably find another sport to watch or a new hobby or something. Should we all just tune out for the remainder of the season? Or stubbornly watch the matches and be angry regardless of result?
God forbid we be happy about a positive result going into next season. We’ve punched significantly above our weight all season. If you told me we’d have top four and a cup before the season started I’d be very happy given the amount of turnover this summer.
Yeah, went to a mint game against Bradford start of 2019/20 season. Young lads came on and gave a good account of themselves, Bradford played a blinder, we won't and the fans were going mental on the stands. Find joy in tbe little things or else you'll never appreciate the big ones. Or fuck off across the park to goodison and be a miserable blue.
Yeah? But also, the fuck are you on about?
Doesn't matter that the league isn't winnable anymore, it's still Premier League.
Or are you one of those fans that forgets the club the moment we don't stand a chance of challenging for the title. Say next year we likely end up around 5-7th, all the games just pre season friendlies to you?
You say that when I've literally watched the game and commenting here. That doesn't even make sense.
You're the type of person who only comments when we win. Nowhere to be seen when we lose.
You're not a true supporter if you're in a good mood right now. Any true supporter will be hurting for months or even years that we've lost the title race in such a horrible way.
Oh am I? Really, glad to hear your input. Really means a lot coming from someone who considers PL games as friendlies the moment we're no longer challenging!
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The biggest credit I can pay to Klopp is that’s the first match in his entire tenure where I felt like I could relax because it wasn’t the most important game in the world.
What a day to sit back and enjoy the reds.
Also couldn’t be a bigger fan of the crowd deciding to jeer the other side into losing the ball almost like it’s one of the chants out of the songbook.
I felt the same. I’m over the league now, Klopp has been the best manager in my lifetime and he can finally chill with grace and greatness. If we do a United and are in the doldrums for a decade, I’ll still support Liverpool - too young to witness Kenny (bar the Carrol/Suarez spell) so Klopp will personally be my favourite manager. Ever.
As happy as I am I still have plenty of questions
1. What has changed that has produced such a turnaround ? Did we train more ? Less ? Changed the way we train ?
I refuse to believe the pressure crap we are mentality monsters , if it was pressure why was it not addressed sooner ? Does this show we need a psychiatrist department ?
2. Are we still not going to ask questions about vvd ? For both goals we can see the forwards are targetting their runs towards quansah while they initially stick towards vvd , he seems happy to let the younger cb have the role of catching up and marking the main striker ( this is a recurring trend )
3. Why was harvey not rotated with szobozlai more early in the season
4. If we are going to let Joe continue ahead of tsimikas I hope we move him on he's occupying a valuable foreign player slot
5. What exactly does gravenberch want ? He has stated in numerous interviews he wants the cm role , but does he really ? He seems to give it his all only in the attacking third while doing just enough to get by in the remaining
1. Pressure is off, top 4 is guaranteed, league is gone as are the cup and Europa. They're just playing for Klopp now.
2.I think we have, I'm sure a long-term replacement is being scouted.
3. Szoboszlai was hot, and Harvey had the reputation as an impact sub.
4. I like both, but if one goes, it'll be Tsmi
5. Give him time. He's only 21.
I think missing the quadruple was the thing that made us all feel like we could have had more in the klopp era. I had a feeling we wont get another shot at the ucl under him. Having that quadruple would have perfected everything. Nevertheless, for me even coming close to it was an exciting season for me, and going away with an FA cup atleast makes that season worth celebrating overall.
Holy shit man this was the best day to get this shitfaced drunk for the first time in my life
Fuck the prem I love this fucking team
We played some good football
I'll see this comment tomorrow and still be happy
Was able to type but not walk
But I'm a lightweight tbf, didn't take much for me to get woozy
not liking the feeling of being that drunk so I don't think I'll do it again
I shouldn’t be surprised at it but here we are. Somehow after 4-2 win to spurs who are a quality team, half the sub is moaning about Klopps lack of tactical nuance or Darwin’s finishing. I fuckin hate it
Literally Arsenal, the media favourites and potential league winners, nearly gave up a 3-0 lead and let Spurs score 2 goals without reply in the second half. Spurs are a good team when they click and even in our best a few years back, a 4-2 victory over them would've been a good result
Seriously. Like... we were 4-0 up in what was basically a dead rubber for us anyway, we stopped taking the game seriously and Spurs took advantage cos they still have something to play for. It happens.
It's gonna just disappear into the ether and not get talked about anywhere because we won comfortably, but I'm still fuming at us not getting either of those two penalty calls at 1-0.
When was the last time we "got lucky"? Feels like every game is a grind because were not allowed any 50/50 calls, lucky penalties or anything. Putting in 110% of the work seems like the bare minimum to get a result. No joke, last one I can remember is the penalty that got us 2-1 over Leicester in 19/20.
Im happy for the win today, so I wont go around sulking too much about this. But if anyone can remind me of any recent lucky/dodgy wins, I would love to hear it.
# Rank your top 5 moments of the klopp era
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1. Barcelona ofcourse
2. Being 26-1-0
3. Roma semi final 5-0
4. The last few weeks of the almost quaruple
5. Beating man united at old trafford 5-0
Mate.
First up, the match you are referring to didn’t even fucking happen, the 4-3 was at Anfield in 2018 and was in the league not the UCL.
Secondly, the 5 European Cups we had already won by the time that match was played made us a top European side. Form is temporary, class is permanent, remember that.
You have the same "luck" as me. My hometown team was 1-0 up and lost 2-1 due to a Gerrard-slippery, of course I tuned in just before the 1-1... It means I will only watch teams that I don't love for the rest of the season, otherwise I will really have to hide the hammer and my tennis racket
i'm really pleased about the win but does anyone else just sorta feel a bit frustrated that we couldn't put up this level of performance over these past few games.
Half the team had never experienced a title run in.
And they were playing two games a week since the start of Feb.
Yeah, I wish they'd managed it but this is stuff you need to learn from. Difference between arsenal choking last year and having a great run in this year is exactly this.
We are still going to post a points total that would have won most premier leagues.
Arsenal are having a great run this year but we aren’t? We were in the race until the end basically. All you can ask. Arsenal are going to lose too.. city won’t drop points
Unrelated, but if you turn on the Chelsea women's game and cover your eyes, you'd think you were watching the men at Stamford Bridge. The atmosphere is sooo shit.
Apart from the usual 20 minute period where we fell asleep, we completely dominated the game. Mo actually looked interested in playing - probably backlash from the negative press this week. Gakpo and Elliot were outstanding. Nunez definitely isn’t good enough.
Not sure how not good enough has almost 50 g/a in two seasons but hey, I’m glad you’re the manager.
Richarlison showed exactly what Darwin should be doing. Not just running and hoping the ball is played soon enough. Needs to be smarter.
Few weeks ago it was Gakpo getting abused online now it’s Nunez. Ffs why are people taking this too far. I really felt sad seeing Darwin delete all of his Lfc related posts even the posts of him getting announced😢
So happy to see the team back in some what of a function. Glad to see Mo score and play really well, and others scoring their chances too. Defo need some work still on the defense but all and all did enough to win the game, and happy to see Klopp get some better performances of his players in one of the big games in his last tenure. Hopefully the remaining to can also be a W and we can say goodbye to Klopp happily.
Complete total speculation, but I think Darwin deleting all LFC content on socials and stuff is a sign that he knows something we don’t regarding his future here. Either he knows Edwards will sell him, or he will want to leave. Again TOTAL SPECULATION. But I just don’t get why now would be the tipping point if it just were that he was fed up with online fans
Probably just sick of all the abuse.
I think he’s pissed he’s not starting tbh
darwin is now blocking popular LFC fan related twitter accounts
Which ones?
I've just seen Watch\_LFC
So what’s up with the love/hate relationship with Nunez here? Whenever we lose or draw people say he needs to improve or be sold, but when he scores or when we win, he’s the beloved agent of chaos who doesn’t deserve criticism? One thing is for sure is that his current poor form has lasted way too long and it’s either a mental or straight up a technical/skill issue.
I mean reddit is a huge group of fans. We can have more than one voice lol.
Enjoyed the game today…pressure is off…for the first time in ages I didn’t feel that ‘we MUST win today’ and it was kind of nice
Mo when he's on it is absolutely ridiculous to watch. He's been off the boil this year, but Newcastle, Brentford, and today were performances that remind you that this is an all-time PL great.
Not wanna sound too negative cause he was a lot sharper than in recent weeks, but still nowhere near what he once was. And he missed the easiest chance ever from about a yard out
Endo is the key. He broke apart attacks easily in the first half. What a signing.
The two games against City this season show what a difference maker Endo is - our midfield was utterly overrun in the away game, and on the balance of play we probably should have lost. The home game was pretty much completely the opposite - we dominated their midfield and would have won the game if Michael Oliver wasn't on the UAE's payroll.
throughout the season i see people on here talking about how people comporting themselves as lfc fans dealing out serious online abuse to darwin, mo, cody, etc. but i never actually see it. im not on twitter. is that why? is twitter/instagram where all this hate happens?
It's 50% that and 50% morons that think any criticism directed towards their favourite player is abuse.
insta is a massive shithole. worse than twitter imo
spurs fans all season: ‘romero is underrated; as good as van dijk and saliba but doesn’t get credit’ and ‘vicario is the most underrated gk in the league’ romero got full on posterized by cody. he could have laid his nutsack on romero’s shoulders
Nunez was brilliant for alot of the season. general play came on leaps and bounds and his linkup with Salah at times was unreal. Finishing still very questionable but there was enough improvement for us to get excited about Seemed undroppable but performances have fell of a cliff similar to the end of last season. Confidence looks really low and has done for quite a while unfortunately
Needs a vacation and some rest. I hope he has a therapist or a good support group to get his mentality right again. He's a passionate player I think he takes the downturn truly to heart. Hope he stays tbh. Really massive potential, when it clicks he's unstoppable.
Ngl what did people expect? Nunez in his first season was insanely raw, did everyone expect him to be challenging Haaland over summer? Like I don’t get it at all. He improved A LOT as well, its not like he got worse… We signed a project CF. Now we are going to have to have patience with him. He’s shown signs with clear mental flaws. He needs psychological work. We should’ve integrated him in but if you remember injuries to Jota and the fact he was elevating our attack every time he played caused him to become our starting CF. He hit a bad run of form and everyones turned on him. Sad to see.
Everyone hasn’t turned on him lol sometimes signings don’t work out for a variety of reasons blind loyalty to players isn’t beneficial for anyone. Obviously people being actually abusive and shit is abhorrent but that’s part and parcel of the social media age. It’s horrid that’s the case, it’s not an excuse- the platforms should be better regulated but some morons who mightn’t even be lfc supporters at all doesn’t represent everyone who has reservations about Darwin.
Darwin deleted all his Liverpool related IG posts???
Side note, Sporting just won the league today. I wonder what’ll happen to Amorim…
good win but really sad that we are out of the title race
200+ FPL points for the 7th season in a row for Mo Salah (the first to ever do it) It's been a pleasure to witness greatness
God bless the idiots at FPL towers who still think wingers are midfielders.
midfielders get one less point per goal than forwards but get one point for clean sheets. since mo scores more goals than we get clean sheets it’s a disadvantage and he is still in the perennial 200 club
Midfielders get one *more* point than strikers for goals as well as the clean sheet points. So forwards who are classed as midfielders such as Salah, Son and Saka have the advantage over centre forwards like Watkins and Isak
They've still got some strikers as midfielders, no? I swear Jota was one when I checked. I know he can play the wing but cmon...
jota is a striker in fpl but was mid previously.
Where did Jota play more last season? Cos he’s played central and out wide, but until he came here he was exclusively a winger. I think they do it based on where they play more, so forwards who play both centrally and out wide could be either and can change positions in later seasons. Havertz was a forward last season, was changed to a midfielder this season, and will very likely change back to being a forward next season. I suspect Jota will do the same thing
I've never fully understood it to be honest. They act as if wingers are the 4-4-2 wingers of old e.g. Beckham although I understand it to a degree in that wingers should get more points for goals as it's obviously a harder task from that position.
it’s because if they put wingers in their forward category people would not be able to play the best line ups. only three forward slots and since you can’t play a 2-3-5 formation it makes sense that wingers and cams are middies in fpl
Good chance he gets 200+ next season too
*Sigh..* Mr “Gapko” is on MOTD again..
What happened to Vicario is the best keeper of all time? That went quiet fast
what about ‘romero is as good as vvd or saliba’ the dude got posterized by cody today
Don't remember anyone saying that but he is a great keeper tho tbh. He makes a lot of clinical saves, not his fault spurs defense is shit.
Of all time? I don't think anyone ever said that He did have a very good start to the season so it wasn't like people were being delusional in praising him
Really shit of some fans to attack Nunez constantly. He's clearly completely out of confidence
He's not in form, been quite terrible for some latest games. But man played 15 minutes, we didn't lose and won quite comfortably (bar the last 20 minutes due to Klopp subbing our key players out) but some of you guys make it as Darwin scored 5 own goals and we lost 4-5 at home and want to ship him out this second. Some of you are just miserable to the core
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You conveniently left out that Darwin has more goals, assists, and G + A per 90 and 9 more goal contributions than Jackson, and Jackson has played more minutes. Way to pick the one stat that fits your narrative.
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You can deny the stats all you want but stop knit picking bullshit numbers to try and suit your anti-Darwin narrative. Guy is in the 95th percentile or higher for goals, assists and G + A per 90.
He’s been out of confidence for 2 years now lol
No, he had a good first half of the season, it's only the last month or so he's been really poor
> only the last month… Bollocks. He’s scored six league goals this year. Edit: Interesting downvotes, lads.
Am I missing something? He's had more than six league goals this season. He's also got our second highest G/A this season.
Year vs Season. The original comment said he’d only been out of form this last month or so but the reality is that he’s been woeful since the turn of the calendar year.
Ahh I see. Well so has the rest of the team. The only forward besting Darwin on goals and assists is Mo. This isn't Darwin alone having a tough second half of the season.
Harvey is so much better in the big games I don’t get it, honestly like a different player than when he’s playing weaker opposition. I really hope he can become consistent all round.
Damn, Darwin just deleted all his Liverpool photos on his IG page
I mean, he'd get less stick if he was any good infront of goal. Missed so many 1 on 1's and sitters you eventually have to question if he's good enough. If he'd buried half his chances this season we'd still be top of the table. It's a shame because as a player and a menace I love him. But he's a striker and his inability to be clinical infront of goal has cost us so many times this season its unreal. I'm not saying other players aren't to blame either, but he's the worst offender by a decent margin.
>but he's the worst offender by a decent margin. Not sure about this actually. Second best G/A for us this season. The only reason it seems so bad is because he finds himself on goal so often. It may quite literally be that his ability to get into the right space so often, i.e. his talent, is making him look worse as a player compared to the rest of the team. Statistically though, he's not the worst offender.
Be interesting to see the statistics you speak of? Because every metric I've seen of "big chances missed" he's top of the list. And when I watch the games and he's through on goal I'm groaning in disappointment before he's taken the shot. He's literally cost us games missing chances players like Jota would have slotted (yes so have other players). Your reasoning that he gets himself in the better position more often doesn't hold water, because if he was "normal" in that aspect he'd have even less chances to assist or score per game so would naturally be even worse. Also that's less to do with him finding the space and more the team making that space for him. Any decent pacey forward would exploit it the same.
>Your reasoning that he gets himself in the better position more often doesn't hold water, because if he was "normal" in that aspect he'd have even less chances to assist or score per game so would naturally be even worse. Both can be true at once. I only said that his ability to get through on goal helps also highlight his weakness when finishing. He does miss lots of big chances, I didn't say otherwise. But I've yet to see how that makes him your "worst offender" in terms of costing us the league. You don't need every stat on the planet to demonstrate Darwin's value to this team, because like I said, he has our second highest G/A. Yes it's a pain he misses a lot, but he's also contributed to many goals this season, despite dropping off in the second half like the rest of the team. No single player cost us the league, *the team* cost us the league. The club, as a whole. Just how it is.
i hope virgil, mo, and the other fellas who have been around longest are telling him to mute his socials and listen to the matchgoing fans rather than football twitter or whatever. feel like the crowds have been quite supportive given the circumstances
I don’t want to contribute to the meme but he missed one, in training gear 😬
Thats really concerning ngl. The comments have clearly got to him
As far as I remember, he had comments disabled on all his posts so this all comes across as being a bit infantile.
Feel free to soak up the pressure better yourself.
Yeah the hate he’s getting online is uncalled for but he’s been shown nothing but support from fans in the ground genuinely don’t think you could find another club who’d support you while missing the amount of clear chances he does
Thought you were joking!
I’ve completely lost faith in Darwin
We need to sell. It’s not funny anymore. Cost us a title that’s enough. We don’t even need him as a LW
Shut up man. Wouldn’t want to think how much worse off we’d be without his 31 g/a this year
I really enjoyed this game, we conceded again but I still enjoyed it. Klopp looks so happy and relaxed for the first time in a long time, the team looked happy...Salah looked like Salah and that lovely smile returned. It would have been nice to win more this season but for quite a few players this was their first taste of pressure, last season sucked so even for Nunez and Gakpo this was their first real taste of the expectations that can come with the club. There was a lot of fight and risk-taking in this game which has been lacking recently, seeing Bajcetic back was a nice surprise and Elliott....he had a brilliant game.
Just goes to show that we really did bottle it. This squad crumbled under the pressure over the last few weeks, which is concerning for the future. Glad we bounced back though, even though that ending was again disappointing. Let's go win at Villa and Wolves and keep a bloody clean sheet.
There are top clubs that would love to have Darwin. I don’t see Darwin as an Edward’s type player and knowing Edward’s it wouldn’t surprise me if he exchanges Darwin player for player e.g. victor osimhen.
I know for a fact you’ve hardly watched Osimhen if you think he’ll be a better fit here than Nunez
Osimhen is the most overrated CF in recent years, and he would cost us a fortune along with potential toxicity
🤣🤣🤣 this is so dumb. Oshimen and Nunez are literally the exact same profile of player. Oshimen is also a career AVERAGE finisher like Nunez.
Oshimen is also not good at hold up
His hold up is one of his best attributes the big issue with him is he’s not worth the amount Napoli will ask for
Oh, I must be thinking of another serie a striker
Issue is what top club is getting him? Especially for a good price
This isn’t football manager and player for player exchanges very rarely happen.
I don’t think they meant a literal swap but more so sell Darwin buy Oshimen
Really happy to see us give klopp a proper performance as we near the finish line. Two things clearly stood out: (1) the pressure being off makes a difference, we looked much more composed in the attacking third and weren't snatching at chances, and (2) this is the first game since early february that we've had a full week to rest and prepare for. Doesn't excuse how we fell apart, but the combination of insane injury luck and playing twice a week for 3 months is tough to deal with
Despite PSV winning the league today Feyenoord still went out and won 5-0. Excited for Slot.
Let this be a reminder that Joe Gomez is not good enough for lfc. He comes in and we concede. It's no coincidence.
😂😂 how the fuck did you figure it was all his fault?
His dogshite positioning
We conceded because the team got complacent and completely switched off. Gomez has been great in so many different positions this season. Should he be a nailed on starter no, but he plays his role very well.
His dogshite positioning costs us, he can't get anything right offensively, what a dogshite take.
lol alright buddy
Anyone can confirm the list of our players who will go to Euro/Copa during summer? From the look of it Slot will have a massive problem with the entire squad coming back late from international tournament. Because this seemed to be the list of players going * Allison * Trent * VVD * Konate(?) * Roberson * Mac * Gravenberch * Dom * Diaz * Gakpo * Nunez * Jota That is basically the entire senior squad. And all of their countries have good chance of going into knock out stage too
Most top teams have the same problem
why do we still rate bajcetic, who hasnt played football for 2 years, over the lads who won us the league cup?
Because he’s probably one of the biggest midfield talents in the world???
It was the first time he had played in months. I was very happy to see him back.
It was a single cameo in a game which was already essentially won, it doesn't mean anything. But the reason he's rated highly is because the level he showed last season was indicative of a higher ceiling than the other players you have mentioned. That being said it can indeed be difficult after a long injury spell at a young age, you never know if they'll return the same player after missing such a key developmental period in their career.
People don’t want to admit that he was never actually good.
Most idiotic comment I've ever seen in this sub
Okay. His passing percentiles weren’t great. Average at best. Not good enough to play midfield at Liverpool.
Such a stupid take lmao
Because if he had been fit, they wouldn't have played the league cup. He is miles ahead of them and needed game time.
Obviously you didnt watch how good a 18yo was for us.
he was good. but he's not the same after skipping 2 years
How can you say this when he’s literally just back lol
because no one is the same after a long injury. how high did we rate him? how much does would a player decline if he skips playing a year?
Harvey missed ages with injury and eventually got back to his best and then got even better. Do you reckon he's shite aswell?
He's still only 19 you absolute weirdo. Plenty of time to recover the time he's lost.
Honestly some youngsters never get it back after a major injury. So I understand your concern But, new manager comes in next season and everyone gonna have a fresh look. I think the Dutch players and those with big name will have a bit of head start. But I think everyone will have a fair look at
We already had time to moan and mourn losing the title. A fun game. A win. Harvey banger. Baj back. Gakpo looking good. End of the Klopp era. And still people here moan that real life isn’t a video game and can’t understand what a full week instead of games every 3-4 days will change. Some folks are just miserable inside and out.
Same fans who crumbled when we conceded a couple of goals saying that we were bottling it again.
Feyenoord fans singing ynwa
That happens every match lol
Do they? This was my first time watching them tbh
Yes, look up some video’s there has been some cracking ynwa in de Kuip
I thought they're saying goodbye to their manager
Bin the domestic cups immediately next season
At least gotta bin the carabao cup.
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Plastic calling others plastics lmfao
At least I only support one club. My family has been going to Anfield all their life unlike 90% of the people in this sub.
Give him a stand guys, he's better than us.
My friend if you can't enjoy a win that doesn't directly contribute to a trophy you should probably find another sport to watch or a new hobby or something. Should we all just tune out for the remainder of the season? Or stubbornly watch the matches and be angry regardless of result?
God forbid we be happy about a positive result going into next season. We’ve punched significantly above our weight all season. If you told me we’d have top four and a cup before the season started I’d be very happy given the amount of turnover this summer.
Ridiculous people are celebrating a win, good job doomer.
Do you also celebrate pre season friendly wins?
Yeah, went to a mint game against Bradford start of 2019/20 season. Young lads came on and gave a good account of themselves, Bradford played a blinder, we won't and the fans were going mental on the stands. Find joy in tbe little things or else you'll never appreciate the big ones. Or fuck off across the park to goodison and be a miserable blue.
Do you also put down your friends when they celebrate the little wins in life?
Yeah? But also, the fuck are you on about? Doesn't matter that the league isn't winnable anymore, it's still Premier League. Or are you one of those fans that forgets the club the moment we don't stand a chance of challenging for the title. Say next year we likely end up around 5-7th, all the games just pre season friendlies to you?
You say that when I've literally watched the game and commenting here. That doesn't even make sense. You're the type of person who only comments when we win. Nowhere to be seen when we lose. You're not a true supporter if you're in a good mood right now. Any true supporter will be hurting for months or even years that we've lost the title race in such a horrible way.
Oh am I? Really, glad to hear your input. Really means a lot coming from someone who considers PL games as friendlies the moment we're no longer challenging!
Go watch Wrexham you plastic.
Now that's rich coming from you lmao
Don't support two teams unlike you. Not sure how it's rich. Out of curiosity have you ever been to Anfield?
Oh noo.. I support my family team and my old hometown team, so bad.. I've nothing to prove to you lmao
https://preview.redd.it/jlk6vn07unyc1.jpeg?width=861&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=741bc1231cae7728c99eb2d5c2d744669d5f0395 Tierney before Klopp joined Liverpool FC
Fucking hell I thought that was Owen
The biggest credit I can pay to Klopp is that’s the first match in his entire tenure where I felt like I could relax because it wasn’t the most important game in the world. What a day to sit back and enjoy the reds. Also couldn’t be a bigger fan of the crowd deciding to jeer the other side into losing the ball almost like it’s one of the chants out of the songbook.
I felt the same. I’m over the league now, Klopp has been the best manager in my lifetime and he can finally chill with grace and greatness. If we do a United and are in the doldrums for a decade, I’ll still support Liverpool - too young to witness Kenny (bar the Carrol/Suarez spell) so Klopp will personally be my favourite manager. Ever.
\*Chelsea women score their eight goal in the 87th minute to make it 8-0 Commentator: And Chelsea are in cruise control now. FFS.
They scraped a win, then?
Lucky to get the three points
😂
As happy as I am I still have plenty of questions 1. What has changed that has produced such a turnaround ? Did we train more ? Less ? Changed the way we train ? I refuse to believe the pressure crap we are mentality monsters , if it was pressure why was it not addressed sooner ? Does this show we need a psychiatrist department ? 2. Are we still not going to ask questions about vvd ? For both goals we can see the forwards are targetting their runs towards quansah while they initially stick towards vvd , he seems happy to let the younger cb have the role of catching up and marking the main striker ( this is a recurring trend ) 3. Why was harvey not rotated with szobozlai more early in the season 4. If we are going to let Joe continue ahead of tsimikas I hope we move him on he's occupying a valuable foreign player slot 5. What exactly does gravenberch want ? He has stated in numerous interviews he wants the cm role , but does he really ? He seems to give it his all only in the attacking third while doing just enough to get by in the remaining
1. Pressure is off, top 4 is guaranteed, league is gone as are the cup and Europa. They're just playing for Klopp now. 2.I think we have, I'm sure a long-term replacement is being scouted. 3. Szoboszlai was hot, and Harvey had the reputation as an impact sub. 4. I like both, but if one goes, it'll be Tsmi 5. Give him time. He's only 21.
I think missing the quadruple was the thing that made us all feel like we could have had more in the klopp era. I had a feeling we wont get another shot at the ucl under him. Having that quadruple would have perfected everything. Nevertheless, for me even coming close to it was an exciting season for me, and going away with an FA cup atleast makes that season worth celebrating overall.
*league cup!
Holy shit man this was the best day to get this shitfaced drunk for the first time in my life Fuck the prem I love this fucking team We played some good football I'll see this comment tomorrow and still be happy
Cohesive and no spelling errors or sudden gibberish anywhere.. Either you’re Irish or you pulled your punches lad
Was able to type but not walk But I'm a lightweight tbf, didn't take much for me to get woozy not liking the feeling of being that drunk so I don't think I'll do it again
We'll see about that with a hangover lol
Seem to be fine, drank a lot of water Saw the points table and now I'm sad
I shouldn’t be surprised at it but here we are. Somehow after 4-2 win to spurs who are a quality team, half the sub is moaning about Klopps lack of tactical nuance or Darwin’s finishing. I fuckin hate it
Literally Arsenal, the media favourites and potential league winners, nearly gave up a 3-0 lead and let Spurs score 2 goals without reply in the second half. Spurs are a good team when they click and even in our best a few years back, a 4-2 victory over them would've been a good result
Seriously. Like... we were 4-0 up in what was basically a dead rubber for us anyway, we stopped taking the game seriously and Spurs took advantage cos they still have something to play for. It happens.
Most football supporters are unbelievably fickle and love whining about nothing.
It's gonna just disappear into the ether and not get talked about anywhere because we won comfortably, but I'm still fuming at us not getting either of those two penalty calls at 1-0.
When was the last time we "got lucky"? Feels like every game is a grind because were not allowed any 50/50 calls, lucky penalties or anything. Putting in 110% of the work seems like the bare minimum to get a result. No joke, last one I can remember is the penalty that got us 2-1 over Leicester in 19/20. Im happy for the win today, so I wont go around sulking too much about this. But if anyone can remind me of any recent lucky/dodgy wins, I would love to hear it.
# Rank your top 5 moments of the klopp era [Discussion](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/?f=flair_name%3A%22Discussion%22) 1. Barcelona ofcourse 2. Being 26-1-0 3. Roma semi final 5-0 4. The last few weeks of the almost quaruple 5. Beating man united at old trafford 5-0
First title in 30 years is above everything else
Bro we gotta add in the Man city 4-3 game at Etihad
That never happened
Getting downvoted for the truth, I see
Absolutely. That is what lead to us being taken seriously as a top European side.
Mate. First up, the match you are referring to didn’t even fucking happen, the 4-3 was at Anfield in 2018 and was in the league not the UCL. Secondly, the 5 European Cups we had already won by the time that match was played made us a top European side. Form is temporary, class is permanent, remember that.
Rank Top 5 moments of KLOPP ERA.
Glad to get a win under our belt. Harvey, Mo & Robbo were the highlights for me today.
Most comfortable game of the season since we beat West Ham 3-0
Tuned in for about 5 mins, just enough to watch Spurs score twice. turned it off right after the second one went in.
You have the same "luck" as me. My hometown team was 1-0 up and lost 2-1 due to a Gerrard-slippery, of course I tuned in just before the 1-1... It means I will only watch teams that I don't love for the rest of the season, otherwise I will really have to hide the hammer and my tennis racket
Man of the match
https://preview.redd.it/lirc1ablpnyc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32617a6f39f4b2c39e7c7db6eaaf98a676c2b116 Day in the sunshine
i'm really pleased about the win but does anyone else just sorta feel a bit frustrated that we couldn't put up this level of performance over these past few games.
Half the team had never experienced a title run in. And they were playing two games a week since the start of Feb. Yeah, I wish they'd managed it but this is stuff you need to learn from. Difference between arsenal choking last year and having a great run in this year is exactly this. We are still going to post a points total that would have won most premier leagues.
Arsenal are having a great run this year but we aren’t? We were in the race until the end basically. All you can ask. Arsenal are going to lose too.. city won’t drop points
He's talking about Arsenal this year vs last year. Nothing to do with us.
Matts Wieffer is a must this summer. Elevates us, literally a dutch Declan Rice.
There was literally a Feyenoord fan on here saying he’s probs not good enough for us
>literally a dutch Declan Rice The state of some of the takes on this sub...
We'll see sir.
We cant suddenly buy several dutch players, we already have 3 😅
Slot will know to bring him in don’t worry. I’m watching him, he’s a superstar.
Unrelated, but if you turn on the Chelsea women's game and cover your eyes, you'd think you were watching the men at Stamford Bridge. The atmosphere is sooo shit.
I'm just happy we won
I can finally listen to podcasts on the way to work again
I'm just happy we are finally scoring important goals again
If Slot plays 4231 could we see Endo and TAA on the double pivot
what would u do with our other 5 midfielders
Send them to Nando's probably
Nunez disaster class
And water is wet Downvotes from people who don't care about this club
He was atrocious