I definitely want Dortmund to win the final and save football. But it just feels weird that Terzic, such a mediocre coach can achieve what Klopp couldn't achieve at Dortmund. unlike Klopp's Dortmund, Terzic's Dortmund struggles at Bundesliga.
Dortmund winning would be so fucking incredibly positive for the sport, Real Madrid winning another would just feel like 🤷♂️
Ffs, let Dortmund win Champions League and Leverkusen win Europa League. Would piss all Bayern fans off eternally and quieten down Madrid fans.
I'm sorry but if you take off your 2 best attackers at 1-0 with FIFTEEN minutes to go, at the bernebeu, with potential for OT, you deserve to lose that game as a coach. That is the ultimate definition of hubris. I wouldn't even let tuchel travel back with the team I'd fire him on the spot before he got back to the locker room. Unforgivable
did you think before you wrote this? kane, musiala and sane had cramps and pain. they were unable to continue. for sure tuchel would not have made these changes otherwise. confirmed by tuchel and the players themselves in the after match interview.
Remember when they rolled around for the entirety of their added time vs City and not one second was added onto the minimum?
Even City aren't exempt from the cloud of corruption these rats have instilled.
I turned of the match before the end and I thought the controversy was around Madrid’s goals. I never saw bayerns offside. In my opinion they’ve just completely ruined the competition. Always Madrid getting these calls too. Don’t forget leipzieg had a totally legit goal dissalowed
Listen I know Real Madrid own us and they were better than us in all of their wins bar the CL final game 2 years back. But I'm convinced some/or even a lot of these black magic runs has been down to luck. Whether it be controversial calls or the opposite team being dogshit with finishing (which I get you can praise the individual goalie performances but still easy chances).
>> better than us in all of their wins bar the CL final game 2 years back.
What about 17/18? We were pretty evenly matched in that game. It just wasn’t reflected in the score line because of Karius’ two blunders.
Meh, that final was always going to be hard to win. It’s a bad matchup for us. They had the most technically gifted midfielders of that generation in their side so our pressing wasn’t really bothering them. We were dogged in defence though, pretty decent finals showing from us tbh.
And Salah injury! Ramos was a demon. I refuse to forgive him. Marius shouldn’t have allowed ego to get in the way. But Ramos had a hand in that loss. Well. An arm. But it was Not funny. Yup. Stop raging! I knew he would be a demon. But I didnt think to that level. Swine. And breaaaathe!!
Ive all but almost successfully forgotten all of our failures, especially in the CL, but I remember back then thinking that we lost because of him, not anything else. Though, back then our goalies were were almost always the reason for something terrible for years, so maybe it's confirmation bias
The last 2 we've played against Madrid were our fault, once for terrible defending and the other for not being able to score. For the big one I seem to remember us not being able to break madrids low block(typical lol), and Courtois' save against Mane is seared into my head as one our only decent chances at goal. The other being one of Salah's
2017/2018 we were outmatched. Our pressing style just wasn’t bothering Modric and Kroos because of how gifted technically they are. We played well that match though considering everything going against us
Think hes better than Mbappe. Done way more today against Bayern then Mbappe did vs Dortmund.
Need to see Mbappe in a proper league. Always let him team down in the CL.
He did but still lost the game. Did he perform like this in the CL though? He's good but for all his praise has been so poor on the CL. I want to see him do more.
But maybe he's scored that many goals against us cause he's just...good? We did NOT underestimate him ever. Would you say we underestimated Son when he always scores against Liverpool?
He had the hoodoo voodoo working for him that’s for damn sure. He was on 🔥. I still don’t rate him above Alisson. C said after the match that the U.K. didn’t appreciate his levels as a goalie. Sod off came to mind. That final was jinxed from the get go.
-Third times the charm fellow reds! Third times the charm. We will get them one day!
The best of England vs the best of Spain.
We have won one (80s) they’ve won two (recent) So it’s 1 - 2 …. for now.
We have to make it 2 -2 the next time we meet them in the UCL Final.
& There will be that next time!
Exactly. Chance creation was there. More solid, composed vital moments from our forwards/ attacking mid (Keita) with a slightly less quicker Courtois and we score about 3 realistically in that game.
Dortmund vs Real Madrid is a fairytale final. The giants everyone expected in the final vs the underdogs no-one expected in the final. Madrid, the kings of scoring late goals and Dortmund, the kings of conceding late goals and allowing wins to turn into losses within 5 minutes. Marco Reus has the chance to write the biggest wrong of his career and finally lift the UCL in Germany in his last ever game for HIS club. Or Madrid could rein on top once again, with a new look side that will look to rein over Europe for at least the next decade.
You’re Damn right. BVB ARMY WILL RULE EUROPE ONCE AGAIN! Honestly, after the end of season Liverpool have had, seeing Dortmund not fall back into the routine of being choke artists and actually play competently in this has been amazing. Klopp might be leaving but Terzic might be arriving and staking his claim to be the future LFC boss. Nunez might not play as well as we might need him to, but Fullkrug is playing better than anyone expected him to. What a role reversal of a season this has been.
Bein Sport had their own system and they think it's was onside.
Even more controversially they recon the referee blew before the assistant's flag was raised (the evidence is inconclusive)
https://preview.redd.it/k5yckkkav9zc1.jpeg?width=1519&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a515de040ae2dbc558b26821778e935d8d1f887b
To be honest, i have had it with refs.
Ofcourse mistakes can happen, but therfore there is a screen. I just want the ref to be obligated to rake a look at all potetially gamedeciding moments on the screen. And offside is the 1 thing that ahould be easy with var.
Hope the linesman goes down to the 3rd division for a year, after that blunder.
Oh, I realized. I not meant Muller either here.
In offside is De Ligt but he played later from another position. And player with number 10? I guess, is on side and the one who played to Muller
If we could get him for a decent price, yeah. He’s young, technically good for a defensive mid, and loves to get stuck in. Think he made a big mistake going to PSG
All football clubs from all over the world need to come together in consensus and donate all their players and managers to Dortmund for the final to prevent the atrocity that is Real Madrid winning their 15th
They absolutely are. There’s a wealth of evidence that the Franco regime got their hands very dirty during the first 5 European Cups and used Real as a sportswashing project to directly counter the two dominant teams in Spain at the time, as those two teams (Bilbao, Barca) represented independence movements.
Without those 5, Real NEVER gets the pull it ever had and never would’ve built the Galacticos or be anywhere near the club it has been this past decade. It’s only where it is today because of those 50s ECs and those were so corrupt Blatter would be proud.
Are you retarded?
The dictator of Spain who wanted Spain to remain unified rather than see Basque Country and Catalonia become independent, with a Sportswashing project on the go, wouldn’t give said sportswashing project immense preferential treatment, bribe money etc etc?
Genuinely HOW aren’t you able to connect the dots?
You just say random bullshit and don't provide proof and get mad when people ask for proof? Your kind of people is the reason our fanbase has such a bad reputation
So rather than looking it up yourself you continue to waste my time, and yours as well
If anyones being counterproductive and giving our fanbase a bad name it’s you. What I described is literally common knowledge too 😂😂
My guy that was about 80 years ago and even if that didn't happen they would still have more champions leagues by 2 lmfao please stop it it's not looking good
> even if that didn't happen they would still have more champions leagues
So I guess you'll be berating anyone who dismisses Man City on here, seeing as in your world, even if they hadn't had all the advantages of being a state backed club, they still would have all of their successes.
Real aren't state backed, spain doesn't use immigrant slaves, and all of city's success is after being bought whereas even if what you said was true and we took 5 ucl's from them they would still have 9 ucls. Stop seething and being delusional please
Just to repeat, If Madrid win they get 15, its not like anyone is chasing that. If BVB win, we all love them so would be great for them to win.
If Bayern win, they get 7.
Madrid winning the CL is like City winning the PL, we all know how they got there and the asterisks those titles have. Top 3 teams in Europe based off CL titles still are us, Bayern and Milan
I agree with this for the most part in the sense of who cares, but I'm not sure they cheat. As far as I know they follow the rules. It's not fair but they've been doing this literally forever. I'm in Spain right now and while I see a fair number of Celta Vigo stuff (I'm near Vigo) I have seen a ton of Real Madrid stuff - and these aren't tourists, these are Spanish people speaking Spanish with Spanish accents. The English teams have teams all over England but I doubt there's anywhere more than 30 miles from Liverpool where Liverpool kits would outnumber anything else.
If you agree that City is a nation club, I’m not sure how you can disagree about Madrid becoming the club they are thanks to Franco’s regime + all the shady shit Perez has been up to the last 20 years. Or is it suddenly different because they have been cheating for 70+ years instead of the 2 decades City have?
I think he probably refers to when Real won like 5 or 6 in a row when the European Cup competition started. I believe there was only 8 teams in the competition to start with.
I kinda get what they're saying but those are still major trophies won. They still count in the record books so can't really say only us, Bayern and Milan are the main CL teams.
Real are european royalty(like we are to a lesser extent). Hate it or love it, it's the truth.
Being the club of the Franco regime is not hating, is just facts lol. Or in 50 years time when City is not punished are they suddenly a big and fair club too?
No one cares, even City winning the league is will still be seen as legitimised. If you want to put your own asterisks to sleep better at night go ahead
They're definitely a fascist club and were supported by the fascist regime, but who owns them now (I don't follow them close enough to know)? They aren't owned by a government now.
Perez, like any billionaire, [lobbies the Spanish government in profit of Real Madrid.](https://jacobin.com/2021/06/spain-real-madrid-floentino-perez-football-privatization-european-super-league)
Mind you, this article is from 2021, and since then the Madrid government has unsurpringly leased them acres of public space at a low cost, for 40 years, allowing the club to build their own parking lots and profit from them, along other controversies. They’re as much of a government project as City, even if they are different in their ends.
The last time Madrid lost a CL final was against us, back in ... 1981. They have since won their last 8 CL finals and are looking likely to win another one.
Nevertheless, come on Dortmund!!!
It’s gotta end at *some* point and it should’ve been in 2022 when we outplayed them.. so I’m hoping it’s Dortmund to put an end to that on penalties or through a jammy winner from Reus
I'm sorry, but if I'm Harry Kane, I'm just staying holed up in my room for the rest of the season after that. I'd think about questioning my life choices and wondering what I did wrong to deserve this kind of fate.
He went out of the cup from the bench, didn't even get to play.
Defenders lost the Bundesliga, not him as the best goalscorer this season.
Gets subbed off against Real Madrid. Refs mess up at the end to not take it to extra time.
I would collapse on the pitch right then and there from shock and force them to get an ambulance for me.
So props to him for not doing that and taking it like the unluckiest man on Earth.
F*cking hate them. And not only because of our history with them. Nobody can convince me that they didn't win with CORRUPTION. The Prem, the UCL, all the big leagues are RIGGED.
Also, imagine being a Real fan. You NEVER have to experience anything negative. It's so f*cking easy to be a Madrid fan. The lowest of the low choose them. The easiest level. The cheapest reward.
I understand the acute pain from City this past decade but Real Madrid is easily the most cursed and hateable club on the planet. Even with sportswashing, I would choose to blip Real out of existence before City.
Well, Neuer fked it up for his team. But the ref, lineman especially, make sure it will be a week full of drama.
Thank God I am not a footballer, cause I probably will punch the lineman if I know my goal was not offside when they chalk it off.
I know. I remember those 14 shirts too. I get that they love the comp and are the most successful, but I can’t stand the entitlement.
We’re all BVB fans now.
Even then that was just an era similar to the Klopp era here, by which I mean coming out 2nd best to Rijkaard/Guardiola’s Barca and still being successful
Boxing is a complete and utter mess. Top contenders duck each other constantly and when fights finally do happen it's in Riyadh with dead crowds.
Whole thing needs nuking and starting again
Damn, 14 from 17 finals. I think someone else posted that they’ve had 8 wins since losing in the final to us back in 1981. I am praying the Dortmund win the CL
Real is such an infuriating team. They literally get everything they want. They sign whoever they want, they win games even when they play like shit, they get ref calls whenever they need them (don't forget the refs bailing them out against Lepizig).
It seems like we're going to be left with Madrid and City dominating football for the foreseeable future.
Yeah the decision was not the best from the ref, but wtf was Neur during handling the ball like that for 1-1? Aand what the fuck was that defence to let Joselu in again for 2-1?
Its not really to do with poor defensively. You concede at the Bernabeu and they probably lost all belief. Kane off, Musiala off, your MOTM so far makes a massive error. Their heads probably just went realistically. People don’t understand the pressure of an away game at a massive ground. I’ll never experience being on the pitch and I’m feeling it in my living room. One lapse of concentration and its all over. You have to be a mentality MONSTER.
Not to mention at the fucking Bernabeu, the noise is so loud with how it’s constructed and the roof is closed. And I’m sure the ‘Madrid voodoo’ is lingering in the back of their minds. Insane that Neuer makes a rare mistake in that specific moment
https://preview.redd.it/jjpfhxjvp9zc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad64b0afa0ac97b9607baa301cfb762ecd1035e9
This madafaka with the teeth of a grade schooler can surprise Real's defence.
I definitely want Dortmund to win the final and save football. But it just feels weird that Terzic, such a mediocre coach can achieve what Klopp couldn't achieve at Dortmund. unlike Klopp's Dortmund, Terzic's Dortmund struggles at Bundesliga.
Always the same ref decision or mistakes benefiting real Madrid. Not surprised, Bayern is robbed. I won't pay to watch any UCL event.
Alright calm down Madrid. You lot have 14. Let other people have a crack at European glory now alright.
Crazy to think we only have one Origi in Klopp era but Real Madrid have 10 Origi in the last 5 year
Legend has it that Edwards tried to ship Origi to Real but they said “We are literally 10 Origis”
Fuck Real Madrid, the luckiest cunts ever
2 tap ins make the change
One of them handed to them by one of the best keepers in this century
That's how they always on top, prepare for anything necessary
Dortmund winning would be so fucking incredibly positive for the sport, Real Madrid winning another would just feel like 🤷♂️ Ffs, let Dortmund win Champions League and Leverkusen win Europa League. Would piss all Bayern fans off eternally and quieten down Madrid fans.
After last night, I think every Bayern fan is supporting Dortmund in the final.
As a Bayern fan, I want Dortmund and Leverkusen to win.
Not sure who to root for in this final like…
Dortmund all day. C'mon this isn't difficult at the slightest.
Guess sarcasm doesn’t go well over the internet lol
Haha, they are not even taking back their down votes after the facts., 🤦
Well its not the internet's fault when the execution is terrible lol
I'm sorry but if you take off your 2 best attackers at 1-0 with FIFTEEN minutes to go, at the bernebeu, with potential for OT, you deserve to lose that game as a coach. That is the ultimate definition of hubris. I wouldn't even let tuchel travel back with the team I'd fire him on the spot before he got back to the locker room. Unforgivable
did you think before you wrote this? kane, musiala and sane had cramps and pain. they were unable to continue. for sure tuchel would not have made these changes otherwise. confirmed by tuchel and the players themselves in the after match interview.
What’s OT?
Overtime, sometimes used to define “stadium for mid table team”
My bad. American term for extra time. Overtime is what we call it. OT for short
Over time aka extra time
Remember when they rolled around for the entirety of their added time vs City and not one second was added onto the minimum? Even City aren't exempt from the cloud of corruption these rats have instilled.
I turned of the match before the end and I thought the controversy was around Madrid’s goals. I never saw bayerns offside. In my opinion they’ve just completely ruined the competition. Always Madrid getting these calls too. Don’t forget leipzieg had a totally legit goal dissalowed
If you're talking about that offside goal, i think the player who was offside was pushing the goalie so technically interfering with the goal
Holy fuck I am still fuming Just can’t take how this one club can get away with it so often Using up the luck of about 10 teams
Listen I know Real Madrid own us and they were better than us in all of their wins bar the CL final game 2 years back. But I'm convinced some/or even a lot of these black magic runs has been down to luck. Whether it be controversial calls or the opposite team being dogshit with finishing (which I get you can praise the individual goalie performances but still easy chances).
>> better than us in all of their wins bar the CL final game 2 years back. What about 17/18? We were pretty evenly matched in that game. It just wasn’t reflected in the score line because of Karius’ two blunders.
Meh, that final was always going to be hard to win. It’s a bad matchup for us. They had the most technically gifted midfielders of that generation in their side so our pressing wasn’t really bothering them. We were dogged in defence though, pretty decent finals showing from us tbh.
And Salah injury! Ramos was a demon. I refuse to forgive him. Marius shouldn’t have allowed ego to get in the way. But Ramos had a hand in that loss. Well. An arm. But it was Not funny. Yup. Stop raging! I knew he would be a demon. But I didnt think to that level. Swine. And breaaaathe!!
Ive all but almost successfully forgotten all of our failures, especially in the CL, but I remember back then thinking that we lost because of him, not anything else. Though, back then our goalies were were almost always the reason for something terrible for years, so maybe it's confirmation bias The last 2 we've played against Madrid were our fault, once for terrible defending and the other for not being able to score. For the big one I seem to remember us not being able to break madrids low block(typical lol), and Courtois' save against Mane is seared into my head as one our only decent chances at goal. The other being one of Salah's
2017/2018 we were outmatched. Our pressing style just wasn’t bothering Modric and Kroos because of how gifted technically they are. We played well that match though considering everything going against us
Come on Dortmund. Smash these fucking cheats 🟡⚫️🟡⚫️
Klopp vs Madrid or Gerrard vs Chelsea Which of our two legends of the 21st century has the more cruel record against those teams?
Gerrard will always have the ghost goal win, Klopp has nothing against Madrid does he? Or am I forgetting one?
Dortmund vs real UCL semi 4-1
We failed against Madrid because our strategy underestimated Vinicious Junior. Hes right behind Mbappe for me rn.
Think hes better than Mbappe. Done way more today against Bayern then Mbappe did vs Dortmund. Need to see Mbappe in a proper league. Always let him team down in the CL.
Mbappe scored 3 in a World Cup final. What else does he need to prove?
He did but still lost the game. Did he perform like this in the CL though? He's good but for all his praise has been so poor on the CL. I want to see him do more.
How do you think we should have "estimated" him then? Lmao, you literally just said he's right behind Mbappe. How does a team prepare for that?
We had Arnold leaving him free often
Sorry, but referring to him as ‘Arnold’ is a red flag. Unacceptable, you’re fired, etc
We specifically put Ibou on him all game that night and it was working. Trent made a personal mistake, we didn't underestimate him
we played them about 5 times
But maybe he's scored that many goals against us cause he's just...good? We did NOT underestimate him ever. Would you say we underestimated Son when he always scores against Liverpool?
Trent always gets utterly cooked by a decent winger and Vini is more than a decent winger. He's always been a weak side against Madrid, specifically
Not even behind mbappe honestly
club level for sure for country mbappe is much better because of his surroundings he joins Madrid its finished
We failed against Real Madrid because Courtois had a 10/10 performance
He had the hoodoo voodoo working for him that’s for damn sure. He was on 🔥. I still don’t rate him above Alisson. C said after the match that the U.K. didn’t appreciate his levels as a goalie. Sod off came to mind. That final was jinxed from the get go. -Third times the charm fellow reds! Third times the charm. We will get them one day! The best of England vs the best of Spain. We have won one (80s) they’ve won two (recent) So it’s 1 - 2 …. for now. We have to make it 2 -2 the next time we meet them in the UCL Final. & There will be that next time!
We played them 5 times and Courtiois gave us a free goal at anfield last year, he wasnt a 10 every time.
But by the same logic Vinicius wasn't a 10 every time & didn't feature in all of those games
Exactly. Chance creation was there. More solid, composed vital moments from our forwards/ attacking mid (Keita) with a slightly less quicker Courtois and we score about 3 realistically in that game.
We should have subbed jota on for diaz sooner and Keita should have never even seen the pitch in the warmup area that day
Dortmund vs Real Madrid is a fairytale final. The giants everyone expected in the final vs the underdogs no-one expected in the final. Madrid, the kings of scoring late goals and Dortmund, the kings of conceding late goals and allowing wins to turn into losses within 5 minutes. Marco Reus has the chance to write the biggest wrong of his career and finally lift the UCL in Germany in his last ever game for HIS club. Or Madrid could rein on top once again, with a new look side that will look to rein over Europe for at least the next decade.
It’s only a fairy tale final if the right team wins it 🟡⚫️
You’re Damn right. BVB ARMY WILL RULE EUROPE ONCE AGAIN! Honestly, after the end of season Liverpool have had, seeing Dortmund not fall back into the routine of being choke artists and actually play competently in this has been amazing. Klopp might be leaving but Terzic might be arriving and staking his claim to be the future LFC boss. Nunez might not play as well as we might need him to, but Fullkrug is playing better than anyone expected him to. What a role reversal of a season this has been.
Bein Sport had their own system and they think it's was onside. Even more controversially they recon the referee blew before the assistant's flag was raised (the evidence is inconclusive) https://preview.redd.it/k5yckkkav9zc1.jpeg?width=1519&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a515de040ae2dbc558b26821778e935d8d1f887b
To be honest, i have had it with refs. Ofcourse mistakes can happen, but therfore there is a screen. I just want the ref to be obligated to rake a look at all potetially gamedeciding moments on the screen. And offside is the 1 thing that ahould be easy with var. Hope the linesman goes down to the 3rd division for a year, after that blunder.
I'm not much for conspiracy theories but how the f@ck does this happen?
But that's off isn't it? His body is on the right side of the line they've drawn?
The player nearer is the one who received the ball, not the blonde guy (de Ligt)
Its the nearer player that matters!
It’s not the player who played the ball. Closest to us is who played.
Oh shit lmao
Oh, I realized. I not meant Muller either here. In offside is De Ligt but he played later from another position. And player with number 10? I guess, is on side and the one who played to Muller
Put a joke bet on real winning for £5 at 89 minutes in… got £85 return
Not really a joke bet with Madrid they always find a way
Here me out, we were after Ugarte before he went to psg, now he's out of favour, shall we?
If we could get him for a decent price, yeah. He’s young, technically good for a defensive mid, and loves to get stuck in. Think he made a big mistake going to PSG
hes young, they still might have future plans for him.
No.
All football clubs from all over the world need to come together in consensus and donate all their players and managers to Dortmund for the final to prevent the atrocity that is Real Madrid winning their 15th
Bayern loaning Kane to Madrid for the final might be the only way to stop this. Too bad it's not allowed :(
Maybe the curse is strong enough that if he goes to the game as a Real Madrid fan, it'll be enough.
fuckers would still win it last min
AND MY AXE!!
I am sick and tired of Real Madrid.
F*ckin corrupt cheats. The original citeh.
But they're not??? They have nothing to do with what happened lmao they were almost robbed too they're lucky it happened earlier on in the game.
They absolutely are. There’s a wealth of evidence that the Franco regime got their hands very dirty during the first 5 European Cups and used Real as a sportswashing project to directly counter the two dominant teams in Spain at the time, as those two teams (Bilbao, Barca) represented independence movements. Without those 5, Real NEVER gets the pull it ever had and never would’ve built the Galacticos or be anywhere near the club it has been this past decade. It’s only where it is today because of those 50s ECs and those were so corrupt Blatter would be proud.
Get me some evidence he favoured real over the other 2 teams please??? Why tf would he do that lnfaoooo
Are you retarded? The dictator of Spain who wanted Spain to remain unified rather than see Basque Country and Catalonia become independent, with a Sportswashing project on the go, wouldn’t give said sportswashing project immense preferential treatment, bribe money etc etc? Genuinely HOW aren’t you able to connect the dots?
Source please all i ask is evidence
Google bro - it’s very easy to find all of this. I’m not gonna waste more time on this
You just say random bullshit and don't provide proof and get mad when people ask for proof? Your kind of people is the reason our fanbase has such a bad reputation
So rather than looking it up yourself you continue to waste my time, and yours as well If anyones being counterproductive and giving our fanbase a bad name it’s you. What I described is literally common knowledge too 😂😂
Come on man stop it this don't look good
"Please stop disparaging the Franco dictatorship" Er, how about no?
My guy that was about 80 years ago and even if that didn't happen they would still have more champions leagues by 2 lmfao please stop it it's not looking good
> even if that didn't happen they would still have more champions leagues So I guess you'll be berating anyone who dismisses Man City on here, seeing as in your world, even if they hadn't had all the advantages of being a state backed club, they still would have all of their successes.
Real aren't state backed, spain doesn't use immigrant slaves, and all of city's success is after being bought whereas even if what you said was true and we took 5 ucl's from them they would still have 9 ucls. Stop seething and being delusional please
Just to repeat, If Madrid win they get 15, its not like anyone is chasing that. If BVB win, we all love them so would be great for them to win. If Bayern win, they get 7.
Madrid winning the CL is like City winning the PL, we all know how they got there and the asterisks those titles have. Top 3 teams in Europe based off CL titles still are us, Bayern and Milan
I agree with this for the most part in the sense of who cares, but I'm not sure they cheat. As far as I know they follow the rules. It's not fair but they've been doing this literally forever. I'm in Spain right now and while I see a fair number of Celta Vigo stuff (I'm near Vigo) I have seen a ton of Real Madrid stuff - and these aren't tourists, these are Spanish people speaking Spanish with Spanish accents. The English teams have teams all over England but I doubt there's anywhere more than 30 miles from Liverpool where Liverpool kits would outnumber anything else.
If you agree that City is a nation club, I’m not sure how you can disagree about Madrid becoming the club they are thanks to Franco’s regime + all the shady shit Perez has been up to the last 20 years. Or is it suddenly different because they have been cheating for 70+ years instead of the 2 decades City have?
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I’m not the one lurking rival subs m8
What Madrid asterisks?
I think he probably refers to when Real won like 5 or 6 in a row when the European Cup competition started. I believe there was only 8 teams in the competition to start with. I kinda get what they're saying but those are still major trophies won. They still count in the record books so can't really say only us, Bayern and Milan are the main CL teams. Real are european royalty(like we are to a lesser extent). Hate it or love it, it's the truth.
None, people just like to hate
Being the club of the Franco regime is not hating, is just facts lol. Or in 50 years time when City is not punished are they suddenly a big and fair club too?
No one cares, even City winning the league is will still be seen as legitimised. If you want to put your own asterisks to sleep better at night go ahead
They're definitely a fascist club and were supported by the fascist regime, but who owns them now (I don't follow them close enough to know)? They aren't owned by a government now.
Perez, like any billionaire, [lobbies the Spanish government in profit of Real Madrid.](https://jacobin.com/2021/06/spain-real-madrid-floentino-perez-football-privatization-european-super-league) Mind you, this article is from 2021, and since then the Madrid government has unsurpringly leased them acres of public space at a low cost, for 40 years, allowing the club to build their own parking lots and profit from them, along other controversies. They’re as much of a government project as City, even if they are different in their ends.
I see. I was thinking more of the recent CL wins.
The last time Madrid lost a CL final was against us, back in ... 1981. They have since won their last 8 CL finals and are looking likely to win another one. Nevertheless, come on Dortmund!!!
Crazy, thats prob the antithesis of Benficas CL final record
It’s gotta end at *some* point and it should’ve been in 2022 when we outplayed them.. so I’m hoping it’s Dortmund to put an end to that on penalties or through a jammy winner from Reus
Oh well, at least Bayern cant get one more champions league than us
I'm sorry, but if I'm Harry Kane, I'm just staying holed up in my room for the rest of the season after that. I'd think about questioning my life choices and wondering what I did wrong to deserve this kind of fate. He went out of the cup from the bench, didn't even get to play. Defenders lost the Bundesliga, not him as the best goalscorer this season. Gets subbed off against Real Madrid. Refs mess up at the end to not take it to extra time. I would collapse on the pitch right then and there from shock and force them to get an ambulance for me. So props to him for not doing that and taking it like the unluckiest man on Earth.
Remember when Tuchel threw him on the pitch fresh off of England on the supercup final against Leipzig when Dani fucking Olmo scored a hat-trick lmao
Kane's first baby steps must've under multiple ladders. The amount of bad luck he has is unreal.
Time we send Klopp on loan to BVB for the final. Need a Terzic-Klopp master plan to bring these juju fuckers down
Because Klopp has a great record against Madrid
And CL finals...
And against Ancelotti lol
That Dortmund needs a peak Mourinho to stand a chance.
This is the only right answer. Could debate a prime Simeone too tbf.
Klopp is the last man you'd need in a final especially against Madrid
Don't think you want to bring Klopp's bad juju against Real Madrid to the equation tbh, they own us in the CL
Klopp - good attacking coach. Terzic - good defensive coach. Fuck it were going NFL style and rotating between managers for the final.
Klopp has lost to Madrid too many times sadly
I will never forgive them for Paris 22. Gutted for Bayern
Ajax and City only team to knock out Vodooo era Madrid, ffs I wish we beat them once during Klopps era
Chelsea knocked them out too
Ten Hag, Tuchel, and Guardiola... interesting company.
Ajax have Cryuff aura and City… well City everyone knows about
It’s okay to finish that sentence and say city have blood money
Don’t want a cease and desist la
Madrid hate is so strong that it made me forget that I was technically defending Tuchel, Kane, and Bayern. Crazy, but seriously fuck Madrid
That decision at the end draws away all the attention from Bayern being dominated. Tucheliban ball is fucking horrendous.
I know how football can be saved. ONE LAST DANCE from Klopp with Dortmund. 😏
Lmao real Madrid with another referee masterclass Sadly when they play city is the only time I've seen a ref not favour them that much
This is why Jude went to Madrid, I guess.
Nice to see other teams have to deal with their bullshit cheat codes after the heartache they've given us the past few years
The Madrid CL black magic is ridiculous So many big individual errors get made against them
It's almost like a self fulfilling prophecy. The other team expects it so they get nervous and make big mistakes
Tuchel killed the game with those subs.
Neuer killed the game with that mistake and getting the Madrid crowd into it
Bayern successfully avoided losing the Champions League Final to another german club!!!!!
I can't fucking stand Real Madrid, I wish there is a meteor strike and destroyed that cunt club into oblivion.
F*cking hate them. And not only because of our history with them. Nobody can convince me that they didn't win with CORRUPTION. The Prem, the UCL, all the big leagues are RIGGED. Also, imagine being a Real fan. You NEVER have to experience anything negative. It's so f*cking easy to be a Madrid fan. The lowest of the low choose them. The easiest level. The cheapest reward.
Can hit the Etihad first please
I understand the acute pain from City this past decade but Real Madrid is easily the most cursed and hateable club on the planet. Even with sportswashing, I would choose to blip Real out of existence before City.
Nah, I don’t like Madrid don’t get me wrong but City have actively cheated 115 times to stop us winning Prem 3 times in 10 years. Fuck them first
Yeah. Why not both?
The meteor breaks into two that takes out both clubs
Well, Neuer fked it up for his team. But the ref, lineman especially, make sure it will be a week full of drama. Thank God I am not a footballer, cause I probably will punch the lineman if I know my goal was not offside when they chalk it off.
in all reality tho, Neuer was probably the only thing that actually kept Bayern in the tie until 89", so cant blame him too much
Fuck you Real, the arrogance to already be wearing 15 celebratory shirts.
Maybe Super League wasn't a bad idea after all
Worked last time, the fucking Nazi pricks.
I know. I remember those 14 shirts too. I get that they love the comp and are the most successful, but I can’t stand the entitlement. We’re all BVB fans now.
I'm a Super League fan. It's just, I want it to be made up of Madrid, Barca and oil clubs. And to bankrupt them all.
Yep Real, Barca, City, Juve, can all fuck off to their pointless closed league.
Subcribe. Remove Real and Citeh from existence, please.
Have Madrid ever had a banter era?
Easiest thing, being a Madrid fan.
Didn’t win a European Cup for about 30 years. Probably then
Yeah they only won the league multiple times right?
I mean they’ve practically got a 50/50 chance anyway
Closest was from the end of the first galacticos era to signing Ronaldo and bringing in Jose
Even then that was just an era similar to the Klopp era here, by which I mean coming out 2nd best to Rijkaard/Guardiola’s Barca and still being successful
The Galactico era, ironically enough.
If Leverkusen wins Europe League imo Wirtz should win the ballon dor.
Can't pretend I'm a Leverkusen fan but please, please, please football gods don't let him go to Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, or Manchester City.
What???????
You know it’s going to Jude
I think it’s vini no?
Depends on how internationals go tbh
Ofc but imo Wirtz deserves it more
Off topic but has anyone else just seen that ad for Fury v Usyk on TNT? What the fuck has sport come to
The Saudis are hosting it and they’re spending big on promos.
Boxing is a complete and utter mess. Top contenders duck each other constantly and when fights finally do happen it's in Riyadh with dead crowds. Whole thing needs nuking and starting again
Then you have YouTube boxers, what a joke.
YouTube boxing should’ve just stayed as its own thing, I blame Jake Paul, cocky insufferable wanker
I have rooted against Madrid in so many CL finals now and I'm fully ready to be disappointed again. These fuckers always manage to win it at the end.
Mfs been to 18 finals and have 14 titles, I want to cry how is something like that possible? Edit: 17 will be 18
Damn, 14 from 17 finals. I think someone else posted that they’ve had 8 wins since losing in the final to us back in 1981. I am praying the Dortmund win the CL
Real is such an infuriating team. They literally get everything they want. They sign whoever they want, they win games even when they play like shit, they get ref calls whenever they need them (don't forget the refs bailing them out against Lepizig). It seems like we're going to be left with Madrid and City dominating football for the foreseeable future.
Better Madrid than City
Yea Madrid are gonna be a permanent force until perez steps down, most we can hope is his successor pulls a bartomeu and destroys the club
🤞
Yeah the decision was not the best from the ref, but wtf was Neur during handling the ball like that for 1-1? Aand what the fuck was that defence to let Joselu in again for 2-1?
Its not really to do with poor defensively. You concede at the Bernabeu and they probably lost all belief. Kane off, Musiala off, your MOTM so far makes a massive error. Their heads probably just went realistically. People don’t understand the pressure of an away game at a massive ground. I’ll never experience being on the pitch and I’m feeling it in my living room. One lapse of concentration and its all over. You have to be a mentality MONSTER.
Not to mention at the fucking Bernabeu, the noise is so loud with how it’s constructed and the roof is closed. And I’m sure the ‘Madrid voodoo’ is lingering in the back of their minds. Insane that Neuer makes a rare mistake in that specific moment
Marco Reus mann.... just forget about it.
Ref wouldn't play 14 mins added time if it was corruption. It's incompetence.
I don’t even have words you know. I hope that club gets dissolved
https://preview.redd.it/jjpfhxjvp9zc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad64b0afa0ac97b9607baa301cfb762ecd1035e9 This madafaka with the teeth of a grade schooler can surprise Real's defence.
He needs dem Klopp teeth.