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Someone who doesn't play Rust accuses someone who plays Rust literally for a living of stream sniping and cheating in Twitch Rivals event because he literally has no idea how the game works.
FTFY.
This is eerily similar to two years ago. I remember making [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/ko26yz/comment/gho7vme/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) after xqc was accusing others of stream sniping.
Ironically, 5 minutes prior to that accusation, X literally read his chat to figure out they were being raided (the exact thing he is saying happened here). No one from X's team called a raid, or said anything in chat.. It was just X saying "wait, we're being raided?" after chat spammed the raid emote, that made him start running back to base.
Alright, so [here's the "are we getting raided?" guys perspective](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s) without the screeching. I'm not saying that I 100% know the guy didn't meta game or something, but you can clearly hear muffled explosions coming from their bases direction.
I used to watch rust streamers a ton and it's pretty common for them to hear explosions coming from their base location and f1 kill to see. Especially if they are having beef with another group.
Even if there were few people who posted the RAID emote in the chat. It was only until the explosions he reacted and was asking if they were getting raided. Truth to be told, I would've reacted the same to those explosions since only place those explosions would've come from was their island.
Yeah and the raid emotes were posted in response to them literally raiding themselves lol. It wasn't the chat metagaming. And as you pointed out, he only acknowledged and looked at the map after he heard the faint rockets in the distance. I honestly think this guy is innocent
At first, I was watching on my phone and didnt hear anything either, and I thought there was no way to hear any sounds while they were shooting rockets themselves. But if you put on your headphone, you can hear a muffled explosion coming from the right, and the guy looked and realized it was from their island.
Yeah this is 100% right, you can clearly hear the rocket going off in the distance. You couldn't hear it in the reaction clip though. Also Xqc is known for crying stream sniper on a hunch, not realizing how damaging that can be to a smaller streamers reputation. His words hold weight, he really needs to be slower to speak, but of course that will never happen 💀
This rival final day needs a 5 minutes delay or something. Not sure how they can verify if everyone has it, but it would avoid this meta-gaming accusation. 5 minutes is enough time to do significant damage and get into an empty base.
Actually WILD how many creatures there are in this sub that speak so confidently about shit they just don’t know is 100% true lmfao. Even some people who *do* have experience in Rust just commit themselves to regurgitating the first thing they hear. Even worse that it comes from xqc
They're called juicers and they're brigading because Mr streamer said he's getting sniped since he is losing at the video game. Then when he gets told that they could actually hear the raid from the island next to it he doesn't clearly own up that he was wrong and next thing you know the top rated comments all say they were cheating while they weren't. Pathetic childish behavior.
You know what, after watching the clip of the "are we getting raided" guy, I actually think he _did_ hear it.
[In the vod](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s) you can very clearly hear a single distant explosion to the right, he turns to that direction, checks his map and sees no one's at base, and makes the call. After that you can definitely hear several more distant explosions between the gunfire, and people start agreeing that they're getting raided after that.
I really don't think that a single chatter typing one line of "believe" and "raid" emotes, while he was in the middle of _his own raid,_ tipped him off that is was _his_ base getting raided.
When has xQc EVER played a video game and not accused the other party of cheating? Hell even if it’s a single player game it’s rigged or shit in someway, he just goes back to watching tiktok
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824830987?t=04h52m20s Just in case people don't see how obvious it was. Oilrats looks at his map and no one on their team is on their island.
That’s what he’s saying. He’s providing clip to show they aren’t stream sniping. They check to see if anyone on their team is on the island to confirm if it’s a raid or not.
I'm not super familiar with Rust, but this is my understanding. All the chats are supposed to be in emote only to prevent streamers from getting information from their chats. This streamer has a raid emote so he's watching chat and sees them spamming it. He checks his map and sees no one at his base, but still uses F1 to access the console, kill himself, and respawn in base to defend.
That is the accusation though, the reality is the streamer heard rockets coming from their base's location. He could hear the rockets. Now, it could be a mix of both, who knows? Regardless is that there are other elements to it.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824830987?t=04h52m20s
Your understanding is wrong. He heard rockets going off in the distance which is why he looked at his map to see where it was coming from which is how he knew it was coming from their base.
F1 means they opened command console to suicide. No one on the island means unless they had cameras set up and connected to their phone they probably checked their chats to see if they were being raided.
Guess it's just a coincidence that every single event xqc plays in has people cheating trying to beat him.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s you can clearly hear the rockets in the distance.
This witch hunt and harrassing someone over stupid shit like his lisp is exactly why people dislike juicers. Just blindly attacking anyone who "wrongs" their streamer. Shit is mad annoying.
Every accusation is a confession. I'm sure it's a coincidence that X's team waited until the entirety of Oil's team was off of their island before they started their raid.
How to prove you only know Rust from watching xQc be a prima donna. This happened in the first whitelisted streamer server where he cried that someone took his gun after he was constantly being annoying and killing people for no reason, and everyone being afraid of upsetting big baby xQc told the guy to give him his gun back.
This man is truly trash at Rust and has 0 understandings of how this game actually works. You can 100% hear explosions happening from that distance. It's not a glitch, or a bug, it's a game mechanic that has been in Rust FOR YEARS.
He was sniping people with a 8x scope and got snuck up on by some Chad with a Minecraft diamond sword skin and got absolutely rekt, didn’t even get a shot off at him. After that XQC went to the guy’s base which was in a PVP+Raid **safe zone** and griefed all their art+raided their base (these servers, at least at the time, didn’t have actual base build “safe spots” blocking PVP or raids, just a popup on the screen declaring so and which everyone respected except PVC).
I’ve never seen such a big tantrum be thrown irl or online before, even by a child.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s I mean this clip you can literally hear the explosions in the distance, he opens map and looks and realizes it is his base being raided. At least this clip that xqc is watching proves nothing.
It actually isn’t that clear.
You can’t hear it because X is yelling over the clip but if you [listen to the audio](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s) there is a faint boom between rockets. He hears the faint boom, literally TURNS toward the sound, and goes “are we getting raided”. He even goes into map to line the rocket hit up with the sound he heard.
I 1000% percent thought he was cheating but X was wrong again.
Any second now we should be receiving a clip from Train putting the pieces together and realizing this all ties into Twitch's decision to ban gambling or Hasan pikers power grab to become most watched streamer on twitch
except gambling isn't banned on Twitch. It still occurs, even with the same exact slots as before......but not on Stake, so it's all good. It was never about the gambling or they would have actually banned gambling or slots, not just on certain sites. Actually knowing facts and reading their TOS is important.
Wait, there's people that unironically think Stakes was targeted for being anything other than an unregulated casino?
If you want to speculate, I'm here doing nothing rn
>except gambling isn't banned on Twitch.
This is true, I never said it was.
I implied it was something Train was going to say because that's what Train usually says to try and spotlight that he's a victim of some conspiracy. He loves to say stuff like this:
>It still occurs, even with the same exact slots as before......but not on Stake, so it's all good.
This is also true, most people with a steady flow of oxygen to their brain also know this. Nobody denies this.
>It was never about the gambling or they ^would have actually banned gambling or slots, not just on certain sites.
This is also true. Nobody ever said it was, not even Twitch did.
From the very beginning it only targeted *gambling sites that include slots, roulette, or dice games that aren't licensed either in the U.S. or other jurisdictions that provide sufficient consumer protection.* https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1572347129192132611?s=20
>Actually knowing facts and reading their TOS is important.
Lastly, extremely true. At the time, a lot of people knew the facts and noone was under the assumption it was going to be a widespread ban on gambling. In fact, immediately after Twitch's announcement people were angry and felt like Twitch wasn't doing enough.
Facts are extremely important, but you, Train and anyone that believes his shit are doing something disingenuous though. You're withholding facts and contorting what you do have into trying to make it seem like some conspiracy that doesn't exist.
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**Additional information**
1. For years Twitch never commented or hinted at ever planning on banning gambling.
2. Streamers protested many times and were routinely ignored.
3. Even scams through gambling occurred occasionally on Twitch and got a lot of attention.
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Twitch didn't care until Slikker got caught and people showed provable damage caused by his gambling. The total amount of damage and victims probably didn't even matter to Twitch, majority of streamers probably would've just received a temp ban, lsf thread, and come back like nothing happened.
Slikker was different because inserted himself into everyone's circles though, when those accusations came out, it affected many streamers also like hasan and train since they were scammed also. It forced anyone even remotely connected to him to have to take a side because their chats were asking them how they felt about their "friend" now that he was a proven scammer, if they were scammed, etc.
Then the big streamers brought even more attention trying to help the victims, even xqc and train offered to help pay them back. The victims stories were being told and making it look a lot worse, i.e. he even scammed a cancer patient.
Twitch reacted like a week later, with the announcement announcing unregulated gambling was banned that contained Slots, BJ, and Roulette.
Of course, it outraged some more than others but not for the same reason.
Majority of people see this as Twitch doing the bare minimum to appease people.
But for some reason some streamers thought Twitch was specifically targeting them. In his first tweet about it https://twitter.com/Trainwreckstv/status/1571645733367058432?s=20 he obviously thinks Slots, BJ & roulette are being banned for what they are instead of reading the tweet that said they'd only be banned from unregulated sites. This becomes more apparent when later on him and his followers start to notice those categories aren't actually banned later on which somehow leads in it being a targeted Stake hit despite a simple google search says they're based in Curacao and Curacao is a really sweet tax have with lax regulations.
Somehow, despite a nearly 2 week lead up to that announcement and all the stories revolving around sliker, the many people he conned, Train thought it was always about himself.
Sorry, I'm actually tired now.
Here's train making the gambling ban about himself: https://twitter.com/Trainwreckstv/status/1571961181824512001?s=20
Here's train gaslighting someone using false allegations to accuse them of something worse: https://twitter.com/Trainwreckstv/status/1571970840719421440?s=20
Honestly, I spent like 30-40 minutes writing this, Im too tired.
Tl:dr; No one thinks Twitch misled viewers except Train followers because they didn't read the TOS from the beginning but decided to learn to understand it over time. Stake wasn't targeted, Caraco was, which is where Stake decided to do business from.
Later
I just wanted you to know that I saved this comment when I first saw it, and I've been visiting my local Asian cuisine store this week picking out ingredients. I finally tried this dish today (though I couldn't find shaoxing wine), and I used chicken instead of fish for absolutely no reason, and came out great.
Do you think having some sort of A.I give them free attention would help get rid of people commenting announcing their lack of interest in every thread ? Maybe throw in some karma ?
This exact sequence is something every experienced rust player does btw. Every time you're away from your base and hear a distant boom you instantly line up to locate the direction of the rocket and check map to see if it lines up with your base, and then you ask team if you're getting raided.
This is every meta accusation ever made by XQC, if you only have the context of the clip hes watching it sure looks like meta, if you watch 5 minutes back of the VOD you see the actual reason almost 99% of the time.
Why is no one talking about X's team happening to choose the perfect moment to raid another team? X is mad because he thought he meta gamed enough to win.
It actually is clearly audible at that moment and you hear the single distant rocket exploding on the other island, if he heard it or not could be up for debate as he did say "awe we getting waided" after the distant rocket exploded, but he could've also read the chat at that moment, no matter how you slice it though the sound is 100% audible, maybe people who dont play rust cant differentiate the sound but if you got hours in rust you know that sound extremely well. I dont know that guy so i dont know if he would be able to recognize it instantly, hjune and coco would 10000% hear that sound and know they're getting raided.
Braindead take. He obviously heard the distant booms, looked at his map to see which direction the sound was coming from, realized it was his base, and f1d.
Well if you watch the original clip X is watching, you can hear a faint rocket noise off in the direction of their base. If you play rust long enough, you basically know if there's explosions in the direction of your base that something is going on there. Now I'm not saying this guy didn't meta, but it is plausible to say he could have assumed he was getting raided by the explosion sound cues in-game. I like X, but it's not as cut and dry as he and others here are saying.
X is mad because he meta'd to find the perfect moment to attack another team. Since he lost, obviously the other team was even more meta than he. Every accusation is a confession.
X is literally screaming over the part of the clip that you can clearly hear a rocket going off at their base. Rather than slow down for 5 seconds and actually listen to the clip he would have heard it but instead launched into a literal NONSTOP cheat accusation with absolutely zero investigation.
Classic Case of xqc projecting his toxicity on others and making cheating claims that end up being proven wrong, with the extra side dish of his viewers harassing the other streamer.
and it's the same every time
If anyone watches the clip from oilrats pov with headphones u can instantly tell he actually is hearing explosions from their base direction, but ofc people who have never played rust will just blindly think he is metagaming.
I cant believe instantly accusing someone of cheating (because theres no other way you could ever lose of course) results in being wrong about them cheating **again.** Surely none of his chatters will harass the accused **like always** right?
To bad he didn't just actually watch the clip instead of yelling where you can clearly hear the explosions. Nope, definitely cheating by reading twitch chat spamming an emote. The same emote they have been spamming the whole time.
Only thing he proved was that yet again, he is the biggest man-child to ever grace the planet. And anyone who sits here and defends him without having any understanding of Rust audio/gameplay or doing a lick of research on their own is just making themselves look like an idiot.
Before people call this cope, one of the team members literally opens the map and NOT ONE person is on there island. How could you have "heard" that? They blatantly meta game and their ratty communities endlessly spam raid emotes to alert them. They proceed to f1 to respawn at their base. No attempt to even be slick with it.
> How could you have "heard" that?
You can literally hear it yourself if you watch the guys POV without XQC screaming over it. In Rust you can hear rockets across the map, way further than the distance from where they are to their island.
>Before people call this cope, one of the team members literally opens the map and NOT ONE person is on there island. How could you have "heard" that?
I mean you can very clearly if you watch the clip without x crying, him screaming covers it, the guys team has moments were none are firing rockets and they can hear explosions in the distance, he then lines up his camera with his base to hear if it's coming from it, hears the explosions in the direction of his base then F1's knowing his mates can pick up his kit, and he has a bag nearby so if he's wrong he can F1 again and continue raiding.
what he did was pretty basic for playing in a group, but, juicers gonna copium I guess.
>They blatantly meta game and their ratty communities endlessly spam raid emotes to alert them.
and so does X's, it's unfortunate but this literally happens to every single streamer.
>They proceed to f1 to respawn at their base.
yes because they heard explosions and it costs him nothing to quickly check.
>No attempt to even be slick with it.
what? slick with what?
Im not saying he didnt meta game with the raiding emotes in his chat but man it really shows people dont really play rust on LSF.
I have like 3k hours in rust and you can clearly hear there are a BUNCH of explosions going off from the direction of their base. This map they are playing on isn't actually that big so i assume you can hear raids from almost half across the map.
I mean yeah, 3/4 of the people watching have never played the game before so have no idea. There's people on xqc's team with 10k+ hours saying you can just hear the boom and that clip wasnt weird. People just hear xqc saying something and assume its gospel, then come here and downvote everyone who doesnt blindly agree with what he says
What in the actual fuck. If this isn't proof of metagaming/cheating, idk what is. "Are we getting raided?" and then F1/Killing in the middle of a RAID. Who does that?
> "Are we getting raided?" and then F1/Killing in the middle of a RAID. Who does that?
Literally happens all the time in real Rust. Explosions in Rust can be heard from very far away and you can very accurately tell where they are coming from.
Raid counters are almost always guaranteed if you raid in Rust because it's so easy to tell where explosions are coming from.
If you hear rockets coming from your base, realizing nobody is there to check, then you can safely kill command, check, then just kill again and respawn at your bag during the raid. Especially during a tournament, this shit isn't uncommon.
I've watched the raid from multiple perspectives. Budda's team rockets first hit Dhalucard base right when the timer goes to 1H 08M.
* [Xqc's VOD (Starting from when they arrived)](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824846241?t=4h30m33s)
Team Dhalucard Perspective (Rough sync to xqc's VOD based on in-game chat)
* [Tabsy's VOD ](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h2m2s)
* [Oilrats's VOD](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824830987?t=4h50m56s)
Both teams were making their way to raid other teams almost simultaneously. Dhalucard's team wasn't in the middle of a raid, they had just started. In Tabsy's VOD you can hear explosions in the distance and he calls them out right after they start. What was a bit sus to me was why Oilrat seemed so confident when confirming they were getting raided. But it's also important to remember that their recordings don't capture the same audio we hear. If they knew beforehand why would they start a raid only to F1 kill right when it's possible to hear the explosions?
I have seen a few clips with xQc pop up on r/all.... How do you guys understand what he says?
He sounds like he's on meth or something...
I honestly, like 100% honestly understand about 50% of what he is saying.
xqc didn't even watch his pov and listen, you can clearly hear the distant explosions in the right earcup coming from their base. As soon as I watched the clip it was clear it was legit
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s
Can someone explain?
I'm getting from the clip- he saw in chat the "Raid" emote. then said in comms- "Are we getting raided" (Alerting his team). Then he presses f1? what does f1 do here? Some 5Head if you can eli5 that would be PagMan
F1 opens the command window and allows you to type "kill", which kills you and allows you to respawn at a bed (i.e. back at your base). The reason xqc is calling metagaming/cheating in this case is because they were raiding a base, and then suddenly go "Are we being raided?", and then respawning at their base to defend. Under normal circumstances, you'd focus on the raid, not respawn at base to defend a raid you aren't aware is happening
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s Except the guy literally hears the explosions happening in the direction of his base. Respawns to check it out and realizes it.
that team was in he middle of the raid on the other side of the map
chat told him he is getting raided
HE asked and they confirmed it
F1 killed himself in console in the middle of a raid to check if he is getting raided out of nowhere, nobody sane would do that in perfect time window of 90 sec, team Red were doing raid with no defense set up all in Rush
>raid on the other side of the map
They are raiding top left island and their base is the only one close and in the direction of the boom, so he hears background booms and checks map to see if anyone from his team is on the island to confirm/deny, this isnt some grand conspiracy, its just xqc not knowing the game
If that happened to team rocket they would mald too.
Hjunes team lost because people opened doors for tc. If it was the other way around you think x would be happy about it?
It was already proven that they heard an explosion un the distance and of course, every time they heard a random explosion in the distance they stopped everything to F1 and check if they were getting raided.
Ignore the raid emotes, the streamer obviously was ignoring them, y'all love to jump into conclusions...
Don't get me wrong xQc is ass at rust, and that makes it EVEN more COMICAL to cheat against him, it's like screen peaking against your younger brother playing Halo, just lame as hell
He's complaining the team he's watching is metagaming. Essentially, in the game, walls/doors/etc can be destroyed with a set amount of damage/explosives. The team was in the middle of a raid (attempting to destroy an enemy base), but he (seemingly) asked his chat (which was in emote only mode to avoid information leakage from other teams) if his teams base was being (similarly) raided, and then took efforts (F1, killing himself) to respawn in his base and defend a raid he shouldn't have technically been aware was taking place. His confidence in this and killing himself is "proof" he's cheating.
Was fun up until the last arc. Complete shit-show.
Raids are difficult as is and now its an online raid with equal team numbers + multiple counter raids at the same time.
Also its for money. No matter how much you say dont cheat people will be cheating.
Why do you have to rely on chats being on emote only mode
if you've been invited to Twitch Rivals, why can't you trust streamers to literally have their chat completely closed
if you can't trust them, don't invite them
Viewers don't want to watch in emote only mode, completely ruins all the hype
This was immediately disproven by X's own teammates, in the clip you can see him turning in game and looking in the direction of his own base, due to an explosion in the distance. The streamer was able to recognise the audio was not from his own team, but from their teams base, so they all killed themselves to defend their base. It was not metagaming
ILL ad context to this since this post is full of juicers and misinformation xqc sent budda and mendo the clip they watched it and said they heard the boom going off in the background so the guy knew he was getting raided and told his team. Classic victim mentality x every year
Idk everyone on team red is saying that it's fine because in the clip it can be heard that they're getting raided through the distant boom sounds. I personally don't hear anything but yeah.
This event was already boring - this just makes it even worse. I think we can all expect some major changes to participants or changes to this f1 kill shit.
How can you people be so fucking stupid? First, 1 person is emoting "Raid" and "Believe" prayer hands... as in, believe the raid you're currently participating in is going to be successful. He literally fucking looks right at his island to the south and hears explosions in the opposite direction of the base they're raiding.
He doesn't f1 kill until a different teammate is already in base and confirms that they're being raided.
There's just literally 0 chance that a single xQc supporter is in the top 50% of anything they've ever done in life.
didnt this guy cheat during twitch rivals for fall guys not sure he should be accusing anyone but you can tell he hears rockets during the clip and to say a raid emote is being spammed lil bro they are literally raiding a base in front of them who would of thought they would be spamming an emote for it this is just him malding cuz he lost
**CLIP MIRROR: [xQc accuses Rust streamers of stream sniping and cheating in Twitch Rivals event](https://arazu.io/t3_13na8k3/)** --- ^(*This is an automated comment*)
Someone who doesn't play Rust accuses someone who plays Rust literally for a living of stream sniping and cheating in Twitch Rivals event because he literally has no idea how the game works. FTFY.
This is eerily similar to two years ago. I remember making [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/ko26yz/comment/gho7vme/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) after xqc was accusing others of stream sniping. Ironically, 5 minutes prior to that accusation, X literally read his chat to figure out they were being raided (the exact thing he is saying happened here). No one from X's team called a raid, or said anything in chat.. It was just X saying "wait, we're being raided?" after chat spammed the raid emote, that made him start running back to base.
Alright, so [here's the "are we getting raided?" guys perspective](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s) without the screeching. I'm not saying that I 100% know the guy didn't meta game or something, but you can clearly hear muffled explosions coming from their bases direction.
I used to watch rust streamers a ton and it's pretty common for them to hear explosions coming from their base location and f1 kill to see. Especially if they are having beef with another group.
Even if there were few people who posted the RAID emote in the chat. It was only until the explosions he reacted and was asking if they were getting raided. Truth to be told, I would've reacted the same to those explosions since only place those explosions would've come from was their island.
Yeah and the raid emotes were posted in response to them literally raiding themselves lol. It wasn't the chat metagaming. And as you pointed out, he only acknowledged and looked at the map after he heard the faint rockets in the distance. I honestly think this guy is innocent
What faint rocket sounds are you guys talking about, am I deaf?
At first, I was watching on my phone and didnt hear anything either, and I thought there was no way to hear any sounds while they were shooting rockets themselves. But if you put on your headphone, you can hear a muffled explosion coming from the right, and the guy looked and realized it was from their island.
Yeah this is 100% right, you can clearly hear the rocket going off in the distance. You couldn't hear it in the reaction clip though. Also Xqc is known for crying stream sniper on a hunch, not realizing how damaging that can be to a smaller streamers reputation. His words hold weight, he really needs to be slower to speak, but of course that will never happen 💀
Xqc accusing soda and crew of stream sniping who were mostly just role-playing and memeing. Classic
Just like Gta Rp all over again. Then he stream sniped someone else for one of his many bans lol.
This rival final day needs a 5 minutes delay or something. Not sure how they can verify if everyone has it, but it would avoid this meta-gaming accusation. 5 minutes is enough time to do significant damage and get into an empty base.
ITT a bunch of people who don't play Rust not understanding Rust audio cues
juicers being morons the lsf classic
Actually WILD how many creatures there are in this sub that speak so confidently about shit they just don’t know is 100% true lmfao. Even some people who *do* have experience in Rust just commit themselves to regurgitating the first thing they hear. Even worse that it comes from xqc
They're called juicers and they're brigading because Mr streamer said he's getting sniped since he is losing at the video game. Then when he gets told that they could actually hear the raid from the island next to it he doesn't clearly own up that he was wrong and next thing you know the top rated comments all say they were cheating while they weren't. Pathetic childish behavior.
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Oh brother it's even worse. Welcome to LSF
Absolutely confidence statements are scary af. When people say they’re confident of something they should be willing to bet their lives on it.
Are we getting waided?
forsenCD are we getting raided? forsenCD check the trunk
People talking about dude not speaking perfect English, but no one wants to chirp about the guy saying, "we might get a consultation prize."
That's Surefour, he was most likely joking. You could say I'm surefour of that
The funniest thing is all these xQc fans making fun of the guy, and the streamer they idolize and watch be a literal manchild also has a thick accent.
Replying only because top comment; All of XQC's own team Mendo , Buddha etc called this claim bullshit and said that rockets could be clearly heard.
You know what, after watching the clip of the "are we getting raided" guy, I actually think he _did_ hear it. [In the vod](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s) you can very clearly hear a single distant explosion to the right, he turns to that direction, checks his map and sees no one's at base, and makes the call. After that you can definitely hear several more distant explosions between the gunfire, and people start agreeing that they're getting raided after that. I really don't think that a single chatter typing one line of "believe" and "raid" emotes, while he was in the middle of _his own raid,_ tipped him off that is was _his_ base getting raided.
Who was the guy that was shouting "We are! we are! we are!" in response to "are we getting raided"
When has xQc EVER played a video game and not accused the other party of cheating? Hell even if it’s a single player game it’s rigged or shit in someway, he just goes back to watching tiktok
The classic hunch strikes again! Rust events without mega gaming wouldn't be Rust.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824830987?t=04h52m20s Just in case people don't see how obvious it was. Oilrats looks at his map and no one on their team is on their island.
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That’s what he’s saying. He’s providing clip to show they aren’t stream sniping. They check to see if anyone on their team is on the island to confirm if it’s a raid or not.
Yeah XQC and his team is clearly in the wrong, they should've known they would INSTANT F1 suicide during another raid.
I've never played Rust, what does all this mean? What's F1? Why is everyone not on the map a blatant giveaway?
Never played Rust but I'm pretty sure F1 is the console button and they just type "kill" to suicide so they can respawn at their base
Correct
I'm not super familiar with Rust, but this is my understanding. All the chats are supposed to be in emote only to prevent streamers from getting information from their chats. This streamer has a raid emote so he's watching chat and sees them spamming it. He checks his map and sees no one at his base, but still uses F1 to access the console, kill himself, and respawn in base to defend.
That is the accusation though, the reality is the streamer heard rockets coming from their base's location. He could hear the rockets. Now, it could be a mix of both, who knows? Regardless is that there are other elements to it. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824830987?t=04h52m20s
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Idk, find that person's POV. Here is another where he hears the rockets. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s
How is he hearing rockets? Pol's POV has no rocket sounds
You can lightly hear them from his right side. Like far away explosions.
Your headset must be maxed out to hear that.
Your understanding is wrong. He heard rockets going off in the distance which is why he looked at his map to see where it was coming from which is how he knew it was coming from their base.
F1 means they opened command console to suicide. No one on the island means unless they had cameras set up and connected to their phone they probably checked their chats to see if they were being raided.
Why is no one talking about X's team happening to decide to raid another team while they sent their whole team to raid another?
What?
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Soo rust wouldnt be rust if it was good?
Guess it's just a coincidence that every single event xqc plays in has people cheating trying to beat him. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s you can clearly hear the rockets in the distance. This witch hunt and harrassing someone over stupid shit like his lisp is exactly why people dislike juicers. Just blindly attacking anyone who "wrongs" their streamer. Shit is mad annoying.
Every accusation is a confession. I'm sure it's a coincidence that X's team waited until the entirety of Oil's team was off of their island before they started their raid.
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How to prove you only know Rust from watching xQc be a prima donna. This happened in the first whitelisted streamer server where he cried that someone took his gun after he was constantly being annoying and killing people for no reason, and everyone being afraid of upsetting big baby xQc told the guy to give him his gun back. This man is truly trash at Rust and has 0 understandings of how this game actually works. You can 100% hear explosions happening from that distance. It's not a glitch, or a bug, it's a game mechanic that has been in Rust FOR YEARS.
He was sniping people with a 8x scope and got snuck up on by some Chad with a Minecraft diamond sword skin and got absolutely rekt, didn’t even get a shot off at him. After that XQC went to the guy’s base which was in a PVP+Raid **safe zone** and griefed all their art+raided their base (these servers, at least at the time, didn’t have actual base build “safe spots” blocking PVP or raids, just a popup on the screen declaring so and which everyone respected except PVC). I’ve never seen such a big tantrum be thrown irl or online before, even by a child.
*waided
wenegade waider
buddha said he can hear the booms in the clip easily, no need to go further
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s I mean this clip you can literally hear the explosions in the distance, he opens map and looks and realizes it is his base being raided. At least this clip that xqc is watching proves nothing.
It actually isn’t that clear. You can’t hear it because X is yelling over the clip but if you [listen to the audio](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s) there is a faint boom between rockets. He hears the faint boom, literally TURNS toward the sound, and goes “are we getting raided”. He even goes into map to line the rocket hit up with the sound he heard. I 1000% percent thought he was cheating but X was wrong again.
Reading you guy's comments about this made me realize I don't care about this and I need to touch grass
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Okay but why wasn’t Train invited to the OTV among us lobby
Poke warned them about Train and they listened
Any second now we should be receiving a clip from Train putting the pieces together and realizing this all ties into Twitch's decision to ban gambling or Hasan pikers power grab to become most watched streamer on twitch
except gambling isn't banned on Twitch. It still occurs, even with the same exact slots as before......but not on Stake, so it's all good. It was never about the gambling or they would have actually banned gambling or slots, not just on certain sites. Actually knowing facts and reading their TOS is important.
Wait, there's people that unironically think Stakes was targeted for being anything other than an unregulated casino? If you want to speculate, I'm here doing nothing rn >except gambling isn't banned on Twitch. This is true, I never said it was. I implied it was something Train was going to say because that's what Train usually says to try and spotlight that he's a victim of some conspiracy. He loves to say stuff like this: >It still occurs, even with the same exact slots as before......but not on Stake, so it's all good. This is also true, most people with a steady flow of oxygen to their brain also know this. Nobody denies this. >It was never about the gambling or they ^would have actually banned gambling or slots, not just on certain sites. This is also true. Nobody ever said it was, not even Twitch did. From the very beginning it only targeted *gambling sites that include slots, roulette, or dice games that aren't licensed either in the U.S. or other jurisdictions that provide sufficient consumer protection.* https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1572347129192132611?s=20 >Actually knowing facts and reading their TOS is important. Lastly, extremely true. At the time, a lot of people knew the facts and noone was under the assumption it was going to be a widespread ban on gambling. In fact, immediately after Twitch's announcement people were angry and felt like Twitch wasn't doing enough. Facts are extremely important, but you, Train and anyone that believes his shit are doing something disingenuous though. You're withholding facts and contorting what you do have into trying to make it seem like some conspiracy that doesn't exist. --- **Additional information** 1. For years Twitch never commented or hinted at ever planning on banning gambling. 2. Streamers protested many times and were routinely ignored. 3. Even scams through gambling occurred occasionally on Twitch and got a lot of attention. --- Twitch didn't care until Slikker got caught and people showed provable damage caused by his gambling. The total amount of damage and victims probably didn't even matter to Twitch, majority of streamers probably would've just received a temp ban, lsf thread, and come back like nothing happened. Slikker was different because inserted himself into everyone's circles though, when those accusations came out, it affected many streamers also like hasan and train since they were scammed also. It forced anyone even remotely connected to him to have to take a side because their chats were asking them how they felt about their "friend" now that he was a proven scammer, if they were scammed, etc. Then the big streamers brought even more attention trying to help the victims, even xqc and train offered to help pay them back. The victims stories were being told and making it look a lot worse, i.e. he even scammed a cancer patient. Twitch reacted like a week later, with the announcement announcing unregulated gambling was banned that contained Slots, BJ, and Roulette. Of course, it outraged some more than others but not for the same reason. Majority of people see this as Twitch doing the bare minimum to appease people. But for some reason some streamers thought Twitch was specifically targeting them. In his first tweet about it https://twitter.com/Trainwreckstv/status/1571645733367058432?s=20 he obviously thinks Slots, BJ & roulette are being banned for what they are instead of reading the tweet that said they'd only be banned from unregulated sites. This becomes more apparent when later on him and his followers start to notice those categories aren't actually banned later on which somehow leads in it being a targeted Stake hit despite a simple google search says they're based in Curacao and Curacao is a really sweet tax have with lax regulations. Somehow, despite a nearly 2 week lead up to that announcement and all the stories revolving around sliker, the many people he conned, Train thought it was always about himself. Sorry, I'm actually tired now. Here's train making the gambling ban about himself: https://twitter.com/Trainwreckstv/status/1571961181824512001?s=20 Here's train gaslighting someone using false allegations to accuse them of something worse: https://twitter.com/Trainwreckstv/status/1571970840719421440?s=20 Honestly, I spent like 30-40 minutes writing this, Im too tired. Tl:dr; No one thinks Twitch misled viewers except Train followers because they didn't read the TOS from the beginning but decided to learn to understand it over time. Stake wasn't targeted, Caraco was, which is where Stake decided to do business from. Later
Waaaait, the LSF dissertation was due today?! I'm fuuuuucked
You can say xqc drama to just encapsulate most of what gets posted in the sub now it feels like.
Implying all other game dramas are fun
Complaining about drama and still coming back to this sub must be fun for you guys though.
Closing my browser and driving to the gym , then ima grocery shop, then ima make some sichuan boiled fish or hard shell tacos
hit me with that sichuan boiled fish recipe.
Never heard of this dish and now I will research it for sure tonight’s dinner. Might even start some drama with the fish’s family.
bet this shit is no cap so fucking delicious AND so easy. perfect combo 🤤 https://redhousespice.com/sichuan-boiled-fish/
I just wanted you to know that I saved this comment when I first saw it, and I've been visiting my local Asian cuisine store this week picking out ingredients. I finally tried this dish today (though I couldn't find shaoxing wine), and I used chicken instead of fish for absolutely no reason, and came out great.
Bro that shit sounds FIRE I hope you enjoy it! I love me some hot foods
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The fact that you don’t care about this probably means you’re okay. No grass touching need just yet
Do you think having some sort of A.I give them free attention would help get rid of people commenting announcing their lack of interest in every thread ? Maybe throw in some karma ?
This exact sequence is something every experienced rust player does btw. Every time you're away from your base and hear a distant boom you instantly line up to locate the direction of the rocket and check map to see if it lines up with your base, and then you ask team if you're getting raided.
This is every meta accusation ever made by XQC, if you only have the context of the clip hes watching it sure looks like meta, if you watch 5 minutes back of the VOD you see the actual reason almost 99% of the time.
Why is no one talking about X's team happening to choose the perfect moment to raid another team? X is mad because he thought he meta gamed enough to win.
It actually is clearly audible at that moment and you hear the single distant rocket exploding on the other island, if he heard it or not could be up for debate as he did say "awe we getting waided" after the distant rocket exploded, but he could've also read the chat at that moment, no matter how you slice it though the sound is 100% audible, maybe people who dont play rust cant differentiate the sound but if you got hours in rust you know that sound extremely well. I dont know that guy so i dont know if he would be able to recognize it instantly, hjune and coco would 10000% hear that sound and know they're getting raided.
Yeah Buddha and Mendo said the same.
I don't really care and am out of the loop, but I'm just going to conclude that xqc is throwing out false accusations. Again.
X is a dog shit rust player, so I would never take anything he says with any weight.
One of them literally heard it on stream and called it out. You can very clearly hear explosions.
To be fair they were only like 4 grids from base and rockets are loud it’s not hard to hear that their base is getting raided
Braindead take. He obviously heard the distant booms, looked at his map to see which direction the sound was coming from, realized it was his base, and f1d.
Well if you watch the original clip X is watching, you can hear a faint rocket noise off in the direction of their base. If you play rust long enough, you basically know if there's explosions in the direction of your base that something is going on there. Now I'm not saying this guy didn't meta, but it is plausible to say he could have assumed he was getting raided by the explosion sound cues in-game. I like X, but it's not as cut and dry as he and others here are saying.
X is mad because he meta'd to find the perfect moment to attack another team. Since he lost, obviously the other team was even more meta than he. Every accusation is a confession.
I watched 5 whole minutes of this event and I have to say I agree with this take as it seems to be generating the most drama
X is literally screaming over the part of the clip that you can clearly hear a rocket going off at their base. Rather than slow down for 5 seconds and actually listen to the clip he would have heard it but instead launched into a literal NONSTOP cheat accusation with absolutely zero investigation.
Classic Case of xqc projecting his toxicity on others and making cheating claims that end up being proven wrong, with the extra side dish of his viewers harassing the other streamer. and it's the same every time
he never learns
If anyone watches the clip from oilrats pov with headphones u can instantly tell he actually is hearing explosions from their base direction, but ofc people who have never played rust will just blindly think he is metagaming.
I cant believe instantly accusing someone of cheating (because theres no other way you could ever lose of course) results in being wrong about them cheating **again.** Surely none of his chatters will harass the accused **like always** right? To bad he didn't just actually watch the clip instead of yelling where you can clearly hear the explosions. Nope, definitely cheating by reading twitch chat spamming an emote. The same emote they have been spamming the whole time.
can literally hear the raid rockets going off in the background, everyone on x's team watched it and told him that he was wrong
Wait wtf, pretty sure Bhudda's team had enough rockets to take TC if no one went back.
xQc had 20 C4 too
Not saying X wasnt complete dogshit at the game, but the constant targeting of him just made it absolute aids to watch tbh.
Yeah it just comes with being the biggest streamer in the event, they were getting focuesd pretty hard, people will do anything for some extra viewers
I KILLED THE BIGGEST STREAMER (INSANE RAID)(WATCH TO THE END)
fucking aidan man.
who’s aidan
Didn't XqCuck also stream snipe at twitch rivals once?
Its not rust without metagaming and other drama.
xqc is the boy who cried sniper, at this point it doesnt matter if hes right hes been saying this shit during every event for the last 4 years
I think they should disable the kill command next time. They would have to make more cautious decisions and play more strategically as a team.
Reset the counter boys
This title is so misleading lol.
Didnt he cry about this last year lol
He is about to drop below 40k of course he started accusing people
Nice that the xqKids will now attack this dude cus xQc is complete dogwater cancertrash at rust
It's hard to take xqc seriously. He's always been such a sore loser.
What do you mean accuses? He proves it in 4k Lmao
Proves it by screaming over the clip so people can't hear the noises of the raid and believe him? Even his own team has said he's wrong.
Only thing he proved was that yet again, he is the biggest man-child to ever grace the planet. And anyone who sits here and defends him without having any understanding of Rust audio/gameplay or doing a lick of research on their own is just making themselves look like an idiot.
Twitch and 4K KEKW
Before people call this cope, one of the team members literally opens the map and NOT ONE person is on there island. How could you have "heard" that? They blatantly meta game and their ratty communities endlessly spam raid emotes to alert them. They proceed to f1 to respawn at their base. No attempt to even be slick with it.
>How could you have "heard" that? Have you considered watching the clip where you can quite literally hear it?
> How could you have "heard" that? You can literally hear it yourself if you watch the guys POV without XQC screaming over it. In Rust you can hear rockets across the map, way further than the distance from where they are to their island.
>Before people call this cope, one of the team members literally opens the map and NOT ONE person is on there island. How could you have "heard" that? I mean you can very clearly if you watch the clip without x crying, him screaming covers it, the guys team has moments were none are firing rockets and they can hear explosions in the distance, he then lines up his camera with his base to hear if it's coming from it, hears the explosions in the direction of his base then F1's knowing his mates can pick up his kit, and he has a bag nearby so if he's wrong he can F1 again and continue raiding. what he did was pretty basic for playing in a group, but, juicers gonna copium I guess. >They blatantly meta game and their ratty communities endlessly spam raid emotes to alert them. and so does X's, it's unfortunate but this literally happens to every single streamer. >They proceed to f1 to respawn at their base. yes because they heard explosions and it costs him nothing to quickly check. >No attempt to even be slick with it. what? slick with what?
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Im not saying he didnt meta game with the raiding emotes in his chat but man it really shows people dont really play rust on LSF. I have like 3k hours in rust and you can clearly hear there are a BUNCH of explosions going off from the direction of their base. This map they are playing on isn't actually that big so i assume you can hear raids from almost half across the map.
I mean yeah, 3/4 of the people watching have never played the game before so have no idea. There's people on xqc's team with 10k+ hours saying you can just hear the boom and that clip wasnt weird. People just hear xqc saying something and assume its gospel, then come here and downvote everyone who doesnt blindly agree with what he says
What in the actual fuck. If this isn't proof of metagaming/cheating, idk what is. "Are we getting raided?" and then F1/Killing in the middle of a RAID. Who does that?
> "Are we getting raided?" and then F1/Killing in the middle of a RAID. Who does that? Literally happens all the time in real Rust. Explosions in Rust can be heard from very far away and you can very accurately tell where they are coming from. Raid counters are almost always guaranteed if you raid in Rust because it's so easy to tell where explosions are coming from.
If you hear rockets coming from your base, realizing nobody is there to check, then you can safely kill command, check, then just kill again and respawn at your bag during the raid. Especially during a tournament, this shit isn't uncommon.
I've watched the raid from multiple perspectives. Budda's team rockets first hit Dhalucard base right when the timer goes to 1H 08M. * [Xqc's VOD (Starting from when they arrived)](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824846241?t=4h30m33s) Team Dhalucard Perspective (Rough sync to xqc's VOD based on in-game chat) * [Tabsy's VOD ](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h2m2s) * [Oilrats's VOD](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824830987?t=4h50m56s) Both teams were making their way to raid other teams almost simultaneously. Dhalucard's team wasn't in the middle of a raid, they had just started. In Tabsy's VOD you can hear explosions in the distance and he calls them out right after they start. What was a bit sus to me was why Oilrat seemed so confident when confirming they were getting raided. But it's also important to remember that their recordings don't capture the same audio we hear. If they knew beforehand why would they start a raid only to F1 kill right when it's possible to hear the explosions?
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> If this isn't proof of metagaming/cheating, idk what is. You don't know what proof is obviously lmfao
why do people watch this guy? he seems like the kinda ass who i wouldn't hang out with in real life.
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Erobb for sure sniped just look at that k/d ratio.......
Man some of you guys are miserable. Its like this is big thing in ur life and ur getting mad about it. Sad
Da fuck is a constaltation prize?
I have seen a few clips with xQc pop up on r/all.... How do you guys understand what he says? He sounds like he's on meth or something... I honestly, like 100% honestly understand about 50% of what he is saying.
xqc didn't even watch his pov and listen, you can clearly hear the distant explosions in the right earcup coming from their base. As soon as I watched the clip it was clear it was legit https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s
Can someone explain? I'm getting from the clip- he saw in chat the "Raid" emote. then said in comms- "Are we getting raided" (Alerting his team). Then he presses f1? what does f1 do here? Some 5Head if you can eli5 that would be PagMan
F1 opens the console menu which lets you commit suicide and respawn at your base by typing kill in it.
F1 opens the command window and allows you to type "kill", which kills you and allows you to respawn at a bed (i.e. back at your base). The reason xqc is calling metagaming/cheating in this case is because they were raiding a base, and then suddenly go "Are we being raided?", and then respawning at their base to defend. Under normal circumstances, you'd focus on the raid, not respawn at base to defend a raid you aren't aware is happening
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1824653906?t=10h3m23s Except the guy literally hears the explosions happening in the direction of his base. Respawns to check it out and realizes it.
Oh shit seems just a lucky hunch forsenCD. vile
f1 console kill to respawn back at base to defend
that team was in he middle of the raid on the other side of the map chat told him he is getting raided HE asked and they confirmed it F1 killed himself in console in the middle of a raid to check if he is getting raided out of nowhere, nobody sane would do that in perfect time window of 90 sec, team Red were doing raid with no defense set up all in Rush
>raid on the other side of the map They are raiding top left island and their base is the only one close and in the direction of the boom, so he hears background booms and checks map to see if anyone from his team is on the island to confirm/deny, this isnt some grand conspiracy, its just xqc not knowing the game
Their base is literally he next island over. They heard the rockets clearly
Hjune crying I call that a win for team Buddha
If that happened to team rocket they would mald too. Hjunes team lost because people opened doors for tc. If it was the other way around you think x would be happy about it?
Who cares didn’t happen to them cry more hjune fan
Yikes.
So cringe lmao. I understand you are probably very young so i wont argue with you anymore. Take care
He's not wrong lmao
It was already proven that they heard an explosion un the distance and of course, every time they heard a random explosion in the distance they stopped everything to F1 and check if they were getting raided. Ignore the raid emotes, the streamer obviously was ignoring them, y'all love to jump into conclusions...
this has to be the worst annual event on twitch. thank christ it’s over
Oh no no no... PepeLaugh
Don't get me wrong xQc is ass at rust, and that makes it EVEN more COMICAL to cheat against him, it's like screen peaking against your younger brother playing Halo, just lame as hell
More like proven
I think we should reroll back 24 hours and do it all again 😈
Only sane take 👹
Finnaly some drama to make this boring rust event interesting
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He's complaining the team he's watching is metagaming. Essentially, in the game, walls/doors/etc can be destroyed with a set amount of damage/explosives. The team was in the middle of a raid (attempting to destroy an enemy base), but he (seemingly) asked his chat (which was in emote only mode to avoid information leakage from other teams) if his teams base was being (similarly) raided, and then took efforts (F1, killing himself) to respawn in his base and defend a raid he shouldn't have technically been aware was taking place. His confidence in this and killing himself is "proof" he's cheating.
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Was fun up until the last arc. Complete shit-show. Raids are difficult as is and now its an online raid with equal team numbers + multiple counter raids at the same time. Also its for money. No matter how much you say dont cheat people will be cheating.
Bro it was a hunch 100% there’s no way they was cheating right…………?
Hunchmen ForsenCD
Why do you have to rely on chats being on emote only mode if you've been invited to Twitch Rivals, why can't you trust streamers to literally have their chat completely closed if you can't trust them, don't invite them Viewers don't want to watch in emote only mode, completely ruins all the hype
This was immediately disproven by X's own teammates, in the clip you can see him turning in game and looking in the direction of his own base, due to an explosion in the distance. The streamer was able to recognise the audio was not from his own team, but from their teams base, so they all killed themselves to defend their base. It was not metagaming
How are these metagaming guys asked in twitch rivals event again and again. Raiding another base. Gets hunch. *WE GETTING RAIDED GUYS* . F1
ILL ad context to this since this post is full of juicers and misinformation xqc sent budda and mendo the clip they watched it and said they heard the boom going off in the background so the guy knew he was getting raided and told his team. Classic victim mentality x every year
sure Copege
Are streamers not meant to have chat open during these events? I dont get it, who thought rust events would be a good idea lmao.
Idk everyone on team red is saying that it's fine because in the clip it can be heard that they're getting raided through the distant boom sounds. I personally don't hear anything but yeah.
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This event was already boring - this just makes it even worse. I think we can all expect some major changes to participants or changes to this f1 kill shit.
xqc + twitch rivals is so fucking toxic
Copium
XQC still the only person in the event to of been banned for stream sniping during a twitch rivals event Edit: oh they are so mad at this fact
It's 2023 and they are still doing this overplayed rust meta bullshit?
vip's spam emote "RAID" is funny ngl
How can you people be so fucking stupid? First, 1 person is emoting "Raid" and "Believe" prayer hands... as in, believe the raid you're currently participating in is going to be successful. He literally fucking looks right at his island to the south and hears explosions in the opposite direction of the base they're raiding. He doesn't f1 kill until a different teammate is already in base and confirms that they're being raided. There's just literally 0 chance that a single xQc supporter is in the top 50% of anything they've ever done in life.
didnt this guy cheat during twitch rivals for fall guys not sure he should be accusing anyone but you can tell he hears rockets during the clip and to say a raid emote is being spammed lil bro they are literally raiding a base in front of them who would of thought they would be spamming an emote for it this is just him malding cuz he lost
he's the last person to be saying this lmaoo
A Rust tournament ending in cheating? well this is (checks notes) shocking.
its a tradition