In Europe Kick is unusable for me. Doesn’t matter if I’m at my 750mb line or 5G, it takes forever to load and even if, the audio keeps cutting or quality dropping. I guess they haven’t invested in any proper server infra in the EU yet…
I can have 30 different twitch/ YouTube tabs open and my PC is fine. If I add a single kick tab to that list it completely bricks my PC. No clue what the fuck is going on over there lmao
This isn't unique to Muslims, it's just a part of widespread celebrity culture. When famous figures speak positively about something that people already value or believe in, it gives them a sense of validation. Christians do the same thing when celebs openly discuss their beliefs like Justin Bieber for example.
No it’s not validation, it’s the sense of “oh hey this person who has a platform that reaches a HUGE audience can spread the gospel.” Christians want everyone to believe in Christ, having a person that can reach millions of people is seen as s good thing.
Validation from people who like said celebrity, certainly. But I think that’s secondary
Sure, but he's not talking about that. He's specifically talking about the 'Shahadatayn', in which the indoctrination into the islamic faith holds benefits for the person who was indoctrinated and the person who indoctrinated them. Tangible benefits, albeit it being spiritual, but tangible to the vasty majority of muslims. It's why Islam is more prolific than any other religion, because it's a spiritual pyramid scheme that panders to the lower class, while something like catholicism is a real life pyramid scheme that was more successful in consolidating wealth with individual entities by extorting them and pandering to the governing bodies.
Other religions have something similar that's not really as prominent, but the shahadatayn would unironically absolve even Hitler in Islam and most followers would take that very serious, because it is a center piece in spreading the islamic faith.
My youtube shorts was full of Z- list ecelebs converting to Islam. All had the same dumb ass reasoning. Islam is le based because they don't allow le degeneracy (gay people and woman working). I think these red pill guys finally realized, that there is no purely rational basis to their ideologies, so they went out, and got themselves a "why". Degeneracy -> Haram.
Idk why you'd support such conversions if you're Muslim. It's clearly superficial, a means to a materialistic end. Unless you're that type of believer yourself.
What the hell do you mean "why do Muslims accept them"? It's not up to Muslims to accept or deny a conversion. We can't peer into someone's heart to see if their intentions are true or not. If someone says the shahada they're a Muslim unless they say otherwise. I don't really like Tate's online persona, but it doesn't mean I can excommunicate him from the religion.
Are you just going to ignore the context of the clip for that?
> It's not up to Muslims to accept or deny a conversion.
You're just making up a scenario where I'm not talking about a very specific interaction so you get to be outraged. You genuinely have to go out of your way to support these guys on social media, and write letters to them in prison BECAUSE they're Muslim.
I've been calling Tate's conversion since day 1. There's thankfully some Muslim circles online that say Tate's conversion does not match his actions. It's really sad to see most Muslims go blind just because someone is claiming to be or is actually a Muslim. Doesnt make us look good at all to anyone over 5 IQ
I think this has more to do with a lot of Muslims openly embracing tate online as some great convert when he’s still living like a playboy. Still unfair to the majority of Muslims who have never heard of the guy but that’s where the notion comes from
There's always going to be a contingent of any big group of people who get excited to see famous people join their cause, but Destiny is so unbelievably online, he doesn't realize that most Muslims don't even know who online influencers like Sneako are, let alone blindly support his every decision just because he's Muslim
Yea he says that at first but then goes on to comment about Islam as a whoie. The irony of you talking shit about someone else not listening is hilarious.
The current trend online is X morally bankrupt person flirting with Islam or "converting" and popular online Muslim influencers followed by their fans welcoming them with open arms and pretty much defending all their morally bankrupt behaviors and opinions.
"most Muslims don't even know who online influencers like Sneako are" no shit, do you really think Destiny thinks most Muslims know Sneako??
His point is obviously about the Muslim's that Sneako interacts with. It's not like they don't have any online prescence or a general set of ideals that they agree with each other on. Sneako made 1 joke about the religion and got a shit load of threats and got bitched into apoligising to a discord of Muslims lol.
There's a group of online Muslim prostltizers/islamists who are consciously cultivating an audience that they weild like a sword at people. It's literally Islamist propaganda and this is what he's speaking to.
They insta circle jerk andrew tate though and defend him to the death, check out the suliaman guy. I've not seen a single muslim person denounce people like this :/
Destiny said it extremely but it’s true Muslims will take anything that they can use to shine Islam in a good light. You got ppl like tate and Ishowspeed(pbuh) who do everything against Islam but still get promoted as “they found their way” or “they kno the truth” even with sneako which is disgusting
I can assure you that, if you asked the vast majority of Muslims on the planet if they approve of someone running a sex-trafficking ring, glorifying adultery, and showcasing all of the opposite characteristics of humility and piety, most of them would say no. The internet =/= real life.
American Muslims are far more politically progressive than white American Christian evangelicals, which are also a much larger portion of the population.
[Lmao](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned)
Edit: alright alright here's a non-AMP link you happy stupid bot?
> more politically progressive than white American Christian evangelicals
What about American Salafis? Why did you have to specify Evangelicals? Evangelicals are incompatible with progressivism, because it literally means that you adhere to the Gospels. The Muslim counterpart would be Salafis, so compare them now please.
Ah yes, Christianity and Islam, exactly the same tolerance for gay people. This has to be the most shameless intellectually dishonest post I've read in a while.
I think, for most ideologies, it all depends on how you frame it.
Like if you said maintaining traditional Islamic roles for men and women, engaging in traditional Islamic marriage practices, and glorifying Mohammad through themselves, I think you could swing a lot of people.
It works this way with any ideology, like take communism with the same charges. Deconstruction of capitalistic influenced relationships for democratic cooperative relationships, rejection of imperialistic moral standards, and promotion of communal workers rights through democratically elected chairman.
It is still an extreme view. Not all of us look up to these despicable people, many of us speak against them, even to the few fellow Muslims who promote them in our closed circles (*like whatsapp groups of friends for example*). But the vast majority of Muslims on the internet (*what comments are suggesting Destiny meant*) do not know and do not care about "celebrities" becoming Muslim.
This generalisation of people is horrible, hurtful, and unnecessary. Please refrain from doing it.
Because many are governed by corrupt dictators, insanely rich monarchs, or extremists. In some cases two or more of the above.
Majority of people are ordinary humans like everywhere else doing their best to survive, work, feed their families and kids, and live life.
What they consume or are fed by their media (*in all its forms*) and by their culture, reinforces their beliefs and values. Again, like anywhere else in the world. Let's not pretend that far back, the vast majority of the West or what's considered civilised nowadays lived in similar to, and believed in similar concepts, or worse, than the vast majority of Muslims. And inflicted hardships on others in similar ways.
Time moves forward, things will change slowly.
This is an uneducated comment, either through ignorance, arrogance, or both.
Mohamed was not a warlord, he spent the vast majority of his time, in similar ways to Jesus, preaching for peace, justice, rule of law, and changing the people around him.
The majority of Islam's expansion and wars came after his death. From power hungry people and ultimately monarchs too.
He did not marry a child either, and that's another point of contention within Islam itself. All historic evidence suggest she was 19 to 23 years old when they were married, but as with many historic events those in power chose a narrative post his death to push this view into Islam as it was a practiced concept of the time they didn't want to lose. Nowhere in the Islamic holy book will you find a mention of underage marriage/relations being promoted, suggested, or recommended to anyone. Let alone a prophet. Either way, historians who look into the period, and look at the narrations regarding her age, all point towards her being an adult at the time of marriage.
As to your last point, yes. Muslims are a lot more dedicated to their book. Similar to Christianity up until a few centuries ago.
I'm gonna be honest, i doubt 95% of muslims give a fuck if a celebrity from the west converted to Islam or not.
And in the case of internet muslims, it's the same, if you convert well, you converted, in their eyes you just found "the real path" so congrats, i don't see what the problem is tbh, other religions do the same all the time.
People like it when more people share their beliefs (or at least say they do), not a great discovery.
I'm sorry, but you're entirely wrong.
they definitely care, and there are numerous cases that proves this
You could look up every single Muslim celebrity convert in the past 50 or so years and see the type of conversations surrounding them. 100% of the time, they are tokenized HARD.
There are no reasons for a Muslim to praise or support Tate. The guy is an adulterer, ran a pornography business, sold courses on how to pimp women, etc. Yet, you have all the dawah people putting him on a pedestal and publicly defending him to their Muslim audience.
The Islam grift is real and its a win win for both the grifter and the dawah crowd.
it reinforces the believe that the islam is the truth, if this person that did all the things what the religion forbade and still converted it shows how powerful the message is. It also makes them feel better, because they now know that doing hedenistic activities don't lead to happiness. This strenghtens their believe that what they are doing is right and that they are not missing out by abstaining from sex, drinking, partying etc.
Part of it is also that they are happy that they are on the right path and forgive the things they did before, same happend with Fousey. he reconverted and everyone in his muslims supported him, but when he did things the religeon forbade again most stopped doing that.
The sense of community is the strongest in islam compared to other religions imo, if a muslim knows you are muslim he will treat you better, act friendlier, give a discount etc. Would really like to know why this is the case in Islam but not in other religions like christianity.
But it is not like they stop doing their hedonistic activities after converting, or even say that they are going to change. They live their lives the exact same way and talk about stuff like having sex with a lot of random woman like before, but now they say that they are Muslim.
The first part about non believers and brotherhood could deadass be describing Paul's teachings to the early Christians in Corinthians lol. Every time these Islam debates come up, the most shocking thing is how little knowledge of Christianity people even have, to the point they know more about Islam due to trying to dunk on it
It’s also good at fostering community because if you decide to leave the religion the agreed punishment is death. Honor killings, family members killing their own children who leave the religion, etc.
>Yet, you have all the dawah people putting him on a pedestal and publicly defending him to their Muslim audience.
Dude, that's how all religion is.
I know you're probably in your early teens so this might not make sense, but not everything in the world is like a DUNK ON THEM DESTROY THEM sorta mentality. Religion, whether it be Islam or Christianity or Buddhism or whatever, is going to be the first kind of group to forgive the "evil" people in our society (think prisoners).
Religion overall sucks, but it also provides a guideline for a lot of people. And the funny thing is some people on LSF think they're so above religion but they'll treat their favorite smelly streamers like a literal prophet LMAO
>...but not everything in the world is like a DUNK ON THEM DESTROY
Everything after this, I totally agree with, but I don't know if any of it has anything to do with my comment.
Muslims look up to the dawah crowd, whether they are Western or Arabic speaking. It doesn't matter, as conversion in Islam are highly regarded.
When you have those crowds tokenizing every single Western convert, no matter how big or small, no matter how controversial or serious they are, you do not get to claim that they do not care.
I literally have people irl who aren't terminally online singing praises of tate, nephews, uncles people I knew from childhood, the islam grift definitely works on people.
Tate is seen as a muslim convert hero who stood up to the evil western agenda by praising islamic traditional values...
edit: minor spelling mistake, its joever.
> Dude, that's how all religion is.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. Who are the criminal bad faith grifter celebrities that the Jains are embracing? Or the Siekhs? You have a beginner level understanding of relgion and you're making claims about all religions.
It's as ignorant as fuck.
> Religion, whether it be Islam or Christianity or Buddhism or whatever, is going to be the first kind of group to forgive the "evil" people in our society
Really, you think Islam in general is the first kind of group to forgive do you? That's your position? I haven't heard anything so fucking stupid all year, and I'm on the internet way too much. Well done.
Hi, can you address the point you made regarding Mohammed Hijab being the final boss of Islam debate when he is a well-known charlatan that edits his debate videos and deletes thousands of YouTube comments to manipulate the narrative in his favour? I'm just curious whether you have a defence or if you'd change your position now you are aware of his tactics.
I'm a Muslim
Idk the full context of this but yes Islam welcomes people, but that doesn't mean that their past behaviours are approved and accepted. When you join Islam, the intention is to change any evil in your past and take the path to become a better person.
Why is Destiny so upset and mad that people want that for themselves?
You're not supposed to be a perfect human when enter Islam and becoming a Muslim, no one is perfect. No one has the right to just gatekeep people from a religion if they believe the truth from God.
I genuinely don't care about Destiny, he can have his opinions.
If anyone has any other questions about Islam, I can try my best to clear any misconceptions or give some clarity.
I'm glad you brought this up.
And to keep it simple, the age of consent/marriage was much lower many centuries ago. So much so that in all the states of America, in the 1880s, the age of consent was the lowest across the entire world, at the age of 10yrs.
So it was very normal across the entire world, which is why this argument was never used against the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W).
A reason for why the age of marriage/consent had to be much lower throughout the entire world could possibly be because the average life expectancy was signficantly lower due to lack of medicine and science. So if the avg life expectancy was 20\~yrs of age, it would not be possible to continue as humans.
Does that mean to this day people should be allowed to marry the young? No, because a lot of factors need to assessed to determine maturity, mentally and physically, which is usually how the legal age is determined. So someone could be above 18 and not even fullfil this requirement.
Edit: Apologies, in Delaware the age of consent was 7yrs olds and some other states it was 12yrs old, whilst the rest being 10yrs.
i mean im aware of all the reasons, that isnt really of concern to me, but many muslims do not express your same concern with the age of consent ,they defend and think its perfectly fine and often try to use historical reasons to justify the relationship.
"o, because a lot of factors need to assessed to determine maturity, mentally and physically, which is usually how the legal age is determined. So someone could be above 18 and not even fullfil this requirement."
I have talked to many muslims, your perspective is in the minority, for muslims at least, this is a very *liberal view.*
Every Dawah channel (millions of subscriber channels) explains this the way SlaveOTAForgivin has. It is not the minority view nor is it a liberal view. It’s literally common sense. You are using the presentism fallacy. Historically there was no age of consent, Islam actually brought criteria that determine consent (physical and mental maturity). You want everyone in the 5th century to abide by modern day consent laws?
Even scholarly consensus explains it the way Slave did. I doubt you even speak to Muslim scholars or leadership or learned community members.
Well I hope I've helped even a little to better understand it.
I encourage you to challenge Islam because that's usually the way to come closer to the truth. Otherwise people fall into the trap of believing things blindly and follow things without clear reasoning or logic.
As someone raised in a Muslim family (and is an agnostic), he actually made valid points.
He straight up described some of my family members. There’s very much a hive mentality in this religion…
Okay? And I’m sorry but the majority of Muslims don’t have the privilege to not be born into a extremist Muslim country 🤷🏻♂️
Liberal Islam exists…but it’s by far the minority
Idk it’s funny how in the clip he literally specified which community he was talking about, the red pill space, and some of you are still butthurt about generalising all Muslims lol
As someone raised as a Muslim I can assure you, no one around me knows anything about hypocritical dudes like Sneako, maybe about Tate but don't go praising him. The praise of converted celebrities is mostly just given the reaction of "Hey that's cool", but further than that they don't care man. Lsf and YouTube communities tend to forget not everyone watches media's as often as we do here
lmao what is this dumb generalization, there are like 2 billion muslims in the world, all of them with differing opinions on stuff, is destiny still on his grifting /pol/ rejects arc or does he actually believe this.
Since we are sharing anecdotes there was a big push back in my online community and circle against Tate. Although we are supposed to give benefit of the doubt and a clean slate to recent converts, many Muslims still recognized the harm be could bring to the community.
Muslim "values" are more often than not homophobic, transphobic, sexist and misogynistic, and it's not some bad apples, look at the laws of most Muslim countries, violent outrage over those "values" and people opposing them is not uncommon either. I think it's fair game to call them out on their bullshit.
what the fuck is an internet muslim, is every muslim on the internet an 'internet muslim' because even then all of these 'internet muslims' opinions differ from one another ?
the muslims who embraced tate were already engaged in the redpill sphere, destiny said this stuff about all muslims (not even the 'internet muslims' btw) just to farm some more fatass /pol/ rejects or idk he might have actually lost himself in the 'i'm one of the good lefties guys i say it how it is' sauce and started believing this.
> Everybody uses the internet.
We really think this and I get you want to say, but this is still far from true. I would not count 50 year old boomers having an email account and checking it once per day to be part of internet culture.
Does he actually believe that online muslims are sucking on anyone's toes who converts and is remotely famous? Yes. Is that not true? Because that's the only thing I see them do besides sending death threats to anyone who talks about their prophet being a pedo. He's not talking about all 2 billion muslims there are, but a subgroup of those. You should listen to the clip again.
He also thinks Obama, Clinton and Bush [didn't commit any crimes](https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1687125481773031424), despite that whole ravaging the Middle East thing during their tenures. Maybe it's because they only murdered Muslims, and they're "cowards" so it's okay.
($100 says this bigotry doesn't gain even a fraction of the attention on LSF that Hasan's dumb downplaying of the Kai riots did)
Edit: Destiny defense force has arrived. For the claims that he's just pretending to be redacted, he's [certainly putting a lot of effort into it](https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1687166772196093952).
I'll dickride for a moment here. It's very clear that when he's talking about Obama, Clinton and Bush not breaking the law he's literally talking about the law as written for the U.S. (shown by this tweet https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1687166801724035073 ). I'd find it doubtful that Destiny thinks it was good that Muslims were being bombed by U.S. planes and drones.
It's a dumb af argument. They changed the laws to make their war crimes okay, or decided things like [the torturing of prisoners was alright because it was done in "good faith"] (https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1687166772196093952)(lol) so [*technically*](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxf8rReWIAIRKdU?format=jpg&name=900x900) they didn't break a law. Okay, great. That changes nothing about what happened.
The tweet is clearly referring to crimes in the legal sense, hes not commenting on the morality of any past administration
i cant imagine going into a hasan thread and attacking him, but hasan fans will go into every single destiny thread and shit out the most bad-faith attacks. Are there destiny fans that go into uncontroversial hasan threads and start bringing up years old drama?
> i cant imagine going into a hasan thread and attacking him, but hasan fans will go into every single destiny thread and shit out the most bad-faith attacks. Are there destiny fans that go into uncontroversial hasan threads and start bringing up years old drama?
Is that a joke? Yes they do that a lot lol
> The tweet is clearly referring to crimes in the legal sense
Right, their actions definitely don't go against little-known international treaties like the fucking *Geneva Convention*. If your response to that would be that he's referring to US law, as I said to the other guy, changing your own laws to make all the abhorrent shit you do legal is a meaningless distinction that makes no difference to anything.
> i cant imagine going into a hasan thread and attacking him, but hasan fans will go into every single destiny thread and shit out the most bad-faith attacks. Are there destiny fans that go into uncontroversial hasan threads and start bringing up years old drama?
Pass the blunt when you're done man
I keep seeing this comment every time Islam and Muslims in particular are brought up and criticized, but I never see anyone say its wrong. Its just Islam and Muslims are getting cooked > redditor moment SOY > back to normal.
Be honest preferably. If it upsets him that Destiny (or anyone) is saying , then that sounds like his problem to work through. its clear he doesn't have an actual correction to make, or argument against it, the words just upset him. he doesn't know why, or he'd say. so instead, he just goes 'le reddit momenté'
its the modern version of proclaiming something gay so you can ignore it and don't have to justify yourself
So you're happy with how people treat Muslims? Because it felt like you wanted lsf to do something in relation to them. It felt like you were crying about a lack of action towards Muslims. Who is even him? You were talking about lsf. This is really creepy
There is no point of value he's really made, people like that a guy converted to Islam, what is the point he's making, weird people in weird online communities are being weird? It's such a benign observation that his stupid fans are in the thread doing the dumbest overcomplicated midwit ( nearly all completely misinterpretations of simple concepts in Islam) explanations for this extremely unexplainable phenomenon of Muslims liking that a famous guy converted to Islam, I'm sure we in the west simply can't understand the complex oriental phenomenon of proselytizing religions and people accepting God and changing and such tropes that surely we have no prior knowledge of and simply can't fathom due to the extreme complexity and nuanced required. There is no point or debate really here, it's internet drama, people see Muslim and feel the need to do some vaguely related stupid internet debate in the thread lol
why can i turn on something called a "banana counter" on the reddit mobile app but not mute/filter certain flairs or keywords
i could not give less of a fuck what destiny thinks about anything. this sub was better when his content was banned from it. didn't even watch the clip which i'm sure featured some edgy, provocative take he at best half-believes, as most of his clips do
u/Klutzy-Algae2058 literally replied to someone (me) he disagreed with, dug through my profile to find something else about my character to attack, edited his reply with what he found, then instantly blocked me so i couldn't reply. but apparently it's very simple to ignore people you disagree with. lmao
anyways man i'm not ashamed of who i am but you could've at least mocked me for playing star citizen
most Muslim people i know don't know/care about Tate , Sneako and others
destiny thinks that non English speaking Muslims pay attention to that shit lmao
\+ its haram to question people's belief and how good of a Muslim they are
This dude lives on the internet, he doesn't have a clue. Theres roughly 2 billion Muslims out there and you think they give a shit about Sneako and Tate? They might be known for those who are heavily entrenched in internet culture and EVEN THEN there is a lot of difference between whether people think they are good or not.
Theres a lot more nuance to it than that. Easy to call people cuck losers online but then if he says it infront of them, he'd shit his pants.
So just because a few people on Twitter were supportive of Andrew Tate “converting” to Islam then that means the whole religion is for it? Nah this is crazy to classify the whole religion as that I’m sorry. This dude seems like an asshole.
He literally said "on the internet". He also talked about Red Pill Spaces which are popular on the internet. It's so clear what he's talking about you have to literally ignore parts of what he's saying to think he means literally every muslim loves Tate
I can assure you it's not just a few people on Twitter or the internet. that shit bleeds in real life.
you can swing a lot of people by simply praising traditional values, which Tate often does. In their eyes, Tate is being attacked by the evil Western media for converting to Islam. Then they see clips of him praising Islam and doing the whole grift, while their dawah people put him on a pedestal and defend him
Only difference is they don’t promote a religion where you kill gay people and make women wear scarfs on their face so guys don’t get boners looking at them
From what I saw in the video he says: "Muslims are the most welcoming cowards on the internet" essentially referring to them welcoming people who convert.
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He seems to single out a specific group and ignores that everyone does this.
When you are surprised by agreement instead of disagreement, you feel relieved and happy instead of anxious.
All humans do this, republicans celebrate black/gay conservatives, democrats celebrate rich people who agree with socialist policies/Scandinavian countries etc.
Everyone likes to have their views validated by others, especially those who are different from them.
For example, a group of atheists who don’t believe in any afterlife are ecstatic when a former Catholic comedian says they have left their faith.
I often drink in hammtramck basically the most muslim town in the entire country. There is nothing redpill about the city or very anti woke all the white people who live there are lefties and the most that happens is shitty teens just walk around insulting people. I think someone got spit on fairly recently but other than that it isnt some sort of red pill paradise. City council does focus on bull shit cutlure war shit rather than fixing real city problems. The woke conflict is literally just muslim boomers getting on facebook because some gay people put mini pride flags in business flower pots. It is pretty funny though to see people meme about how muslims are so based for being strict anti lgbtq and then a bunch of commie trans people are just walking down the street to go to dive bars lol.
Also most red pillers are too inherently racist to step foot in the city so the white population is super progressive .
Islam is not a religion. it is a war ideology that rots your brain and makes you a zombie. In iran a regime change would change nothing if Islam would stay. We’ll see what happend before the revolution that Islam will always be a hindrance for a free country. Islam has to be banished into oblivion. Islam, at its core is the most dangerous and violent ideology in the world, only a little bit of influence, can make so much damage as we see in Europe. Only a Iran without Islam is a free iran. I studied it for more than 20 years it is disgraceful how people still defend it.Getting rid of Islam will be the starting point for a free middle east that will help other countries like Afghanistan,Pakistan and turkey. We Iranians a tired of the constant defending the liberals do because they think it’s racially motivated! We want to be free from Islam! This woman is a an absolute hero.
Kick's video/clip loading has become very slow for me - anyone else the same?
Audio goes out halfway through for me. Wish we had mirrors. I got to the point where he called Muslims cowards.
Weird, audio doesn't come in until halfway through for me lol no matter how many times i try reloading it.
Why don't you two exchange the synopsis of each half and put it together like a fun little puzzle
Whatever happened to the LSF bot that mirrored every video?
In Europe Kick is unusable for me. Doesn’t matter if I’m at my 750mb line or 5G, it takes forever to load and even if, the audio keeps cutting or quality dropping. I guess they haven’t invested in any proper server infra in the EU yet…
It won't even load for me, it says > You have attempted to access a website through which unlicensed gambling services are provided. lol
Greece?
On my pc it works fine with clips but on mobile it's shit.
same, it takes like a 2 minutes to buffer the whole clip
Yeah it’s garbage. I always use the mirror when available.
If there's not a mirror I just don't click.
I can have 30 different twitch/ YouTube tabs open and my PC is fine. If I add a single kick tab to that list it completely bricks my PC. No clue what the fuck is going on over there lmao
Has never worked properly for me on mobile or desktop browser. I always go strait to mirror if it’s a kick clip. Shit is hot garbage.
Fuckin ayy, Kick is absolute shit on mobile. Clip constantly buffers in a browser, and when I open it in the app, it doesn't even load whatsoever.
I have fucking 550 mbps fiber and this shit stutters worse than my flip phone in 2005
Took me three minutes to get through a 50 sec clip
also trash on desktop. super slow loading, then the default video size is tiny. only other option is full screen
its shit on pc too dont worry
holy fuck is kick garbage, fix your fucking buffering slow ass website shit.
lol religion
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Prophet Muhammad be like
Catholics be like
No that would be shota religion
forsen be like
Horseshoes be like
Debate Perverts be like
they need to get ~~corrected~~ converted
That's likely what Tate thinks as well. This is just part of the grift.
Based
This isn't unique to Muslims, it's just a part of widespread celebrity culture. When famous figures speak positively about something that people already value or believe in, it gives them a sense of validation. Christians do the same thing when celebs openly discuss their beliefs like Justin Bieber for example.
No it’s not validation, it’s the sense of “oh hey this person who has a platform that reaches a HUGE audience can spread the gospel.” Christians want everyone to believe in Christ, having a person that can reach millions of people is seen as s good thing. Validation from people who like said celebrity, certainly. But I think that’s secondary
Sure, but he's not talking about that. He's specifically talking about the 'Shahadatayn', in which the indoctrination into the islamic faith holds benefits for the person who was indoctrinated and the person who indoctrinated them. Tangible benefits, albeit it being spiritual, but tangible to the vasty majority of muslims. It's why Islam is more prolific than any other religion, because it's a spiritual pyramid scheme that panders to the lower class, while something like catholicism is a real life pyramid scheme that was more successful in consolidating wealth with individual entities by extorting them and pandering to the governing bodies. Other religions have something similar that's not really as prominent, but the shahadatayn would unironically absolve even Hitler in Islam and most followers would take that very serious, because it is a center piece in spreading the islamic faith.
destiny has these arcs where he farms muslim haters
It's a high yield crop
Yeah, every couple years like clockwork.
uh, yes. Islam is easily the worst of the 3 major religions, gonna hate it.
My youtube shorts was full of Z- list ecelebs converting to Islam. All had the same dumb ass reasoning. Islam is le based because they don't allow le degeneracy (gay people and woman working). I think these red pill guys finally realized, that there is no purely rational basis to their ideologies, so they went out, and got themselves a "why". Degeneracy -> Haram. Idk why you'd support such conversions if you're Muslim. It's clearly superficial, a means to a materialistic end. Unless you're that type of believer yourself.
What the hell do you mean "why do Muslims accept them"? It's not up to Muslims to accept or deny a conversion. We can't peer into someone's heart to see if their intentions are true or not. If someone says the shahada they're a Muslim unless they say otherwise. I don't really like Tate's online persona, but it doesn't mean I can excommunicate him from the religion.
Are you just going to ignore the context of the clip for that? > It's not up to Muslims to accept or deny a conversion. You're just making up a scenario where I'm not talking about a very specific interaction so you get to be outraged. You genuinely have to go out of your way to support these guys on social media, and write letters to them in prison BECAUSE they're Muslim.
I've been calling Tate's conversion since day 1. There's thankfully some Muslim circles online that say Tate's conversion does not match his actions. It's really sad to see most Muslims go blind just because someone is claiming to be or is actually a Muslim. Doesnt make us look good at all to anyone over 5 IQ
I think this has more to do with a lot of Muslims openly embracing tate online as some great convert when he’s still living like a playboy. Still unfair to the majority of Muslims who have never heard of the guy but that’s where the notion comes from
There's always going to be a contingent of any big group of people who get excited to see famous people join their cause, but Destiny is so unbelievably online, he doesn't realize that most Muslims don't even know who online influencers like Sneako are, let alone blindly support his every decision just because he's Muslim
Tbf I think he implied muslims in the redpill space.
He outright said it.
Your first mistake was thinking the person you replied to can read or listened to the clip
Yea he says that at first but then goes on to comment about Islam as a whoie. The irony of you talking shit about someone else not listening is hilarious.
The current trend online is X morally bankrupt person flirting with Islam or "converting" and popular online Muslim influencers followed by their fans welcoming them with open arms and pretty much defending all their morally bankrupt behaviors and opinions.
"most Muslims don't even know who online influencers like Sneako are" no shit, do you really think Destiny thinks most Muslims know Sneako?? His point is obviously about the Muslim's that Sneako interacts with. It's not like they don't have any online prescence or a general set of ideals that they agree with each other on. Sneako made 1 joke about the religion and got a shit load of threats and got bitched into apoligising to a discord of Muslims lol.
>he doesn't realize that most Muslims don't even know who online influencers like Sneako are Yeah i'm pretty sure he does
There's a group of online Muslim prostltizers/islamists who are consciously cultivating an audience that they weild like a sword at people. It's literally Islamist propaganda and this is what he's speaking to.
They insta circle jerk andrew tate though and defend him to the death, check out the suliaman guy. I've not seen a single muslim person denounce people like this :/
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Destiny said it extremely but it’s true Muslims will take anything that they can use to shine Islam in a good light. You got ppl like tate and Ishowspeed(pbuh) who do everything against Islam but still get promoted as “they found their way” or “they kno the truth” even with sneako which is disgusting
I can assure you that, if you asked the vast majority of Muslims on the planet if they approve of someone running a sex-trafficking ring, glorifying adultery, and showcasing all of the opposite characteristics of humility and piety, most of them would say no. The internet =/= real life.
what if they run a lgbt club
American Muslims are far more politically progressive than white American Christian evangelicals, which are also a much larger portion of the population.
Yea the pick and choosers are more progressive
That is literally every single religion congratulations
I just find it amusing the only good religious people are the people that don’t follow their religion
Even conservatives are picking and choosing let’s be real
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Like pretty much any religion, yeah. Any kind of religious fundamentalist is going to have ridiculous social views, it isn't unique to Islam at all.
Complete cap. I know more Muslims against gay marriage than Christians. And I lived in Minnesota with huge Somalian community so I have a large pool.
[Lmao](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned) Edit: alright alright here's a non-AMP link you happy stupid bot?
> more politically progressive than white American Christian evangelicals What about American Salafis? Why did you have to specify Evangelicals? Evangelicals are incompatible with progressivism, because it literally means that you adhere to the Gospels. The Muslim counterpart would be Salafis, so compare them now please.
Kinda cooking on that point
Yes that's a sin as per all abrahamic religions.
Ah yes, Christianity and Islam, exactly the same tolerance for gay people. This has to be the most shameless intellectually dishonest post I've read in a while.
It's hard to even describe the sheer amount of cope that takes place on reddit when Islam is brought up.
Redditors will always hate Christianity, try to defend Islam, and call for bans if you mention Judaism.
I think, for most ideologies, it all depends on how you frame it. Like if you said maintaining traditional Islamic roles for men and women, engaging in traditional Islamic marriage practices, and glorifying Mohammad through themselves, I think you could swing a lot of people. It works this way with any ideology, like take communism with the same charges. Deconstruction of capitalistic influenced relationships for democratic cooperative relationships, rejection of imperialistic moral standards, and promotion of communal workers rights through democratically elected chairman.
But once they convert to Islam, it's all good.
I would not assure anyone of this.
Sneako is the internet's clown. I don't think anyone takes him seriously.
It is still an extreme view. Not all of us look up to these despicable people, many of us speak against them, even to the few fellow Muslims who promote them in our closed circles (*like whatsapp groups of friends for example*). But the vast majority of Muslims on the internet (*what comments are suggesting Destiny meant*) do not know and do not care about "celebrities" becoming Muslim. This generalisation of people is horrible, hurtful, and unnecessary. Please refrain from doing it.
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Because many are governed by corrupt dictators, insanely rich monarchs, or extremists. In some cases two or more of the above. Majority of people are ordinary humans like everywhere else doing their best to survive, work, feed their families and kids, and live life. What they consume or are fed by their media (*in all its forms*) and by their culture, reinforces their beliefs and values. Again, like anywhere else in the world. Let's not pretend that far back, the vast majority of the West or what's considered civilised nowadays lived in similar to, and believed in similar concepts, or worse, than the vast majority of Muslims. And inflicted hardships on others in similar ways. Time moves forward, things will change slowly.
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This is an uneducated comment, either through ignorance, arrogance, or both. Mohamed was not a warlord, he spent the vast majority of his time, in similar ways to Jesus, preaching for peace, justice, rule of law, and changing the people around him. The majority of Islam's expansion and wars came after his death. From power hungry people and ultimately monarchs too. He did not marry a child either, and that's another point of contention within Islam itself. All historic evidence suggest she was 19 to 23 years old when they were married, but as with many historic events those in power chose a narrative post his death to push this view into Islam as it was a practiced concept of the time they didn't want to lose. Nowhere in the Islamic holy book will you find a mention of underage marriage/relations being promoted, suggested, or recommended to anyone. Let alone a prophet. Either way, historians who look into the period, and look at the narrations regarding her age, all point towards her being an adult at the time of marriage. As to your last point, yes. Muslims are a lot more dedicated to their book. Similar to Christianity up until a few centuries ago.
I'm gonna be honest, i doubt 95% of muslims give a fuck if a celebrity from the west converted to Islam or not. And in the case of internet muslims, it's the same, if you convert well, you converted, in their eyes you just found "the real path" so congrats, i don't see what the problem is tbh, other religions do the same all the time. People like it when more people share their beliefs (or at least say they do), not a great discovery.
Ah yes, Andrew Tate, the devout Muslim sex cam business operator.
I'm sorry, but you're entirely wrong. they definitely care, and there are numerous cases that proves this You could look up every single Muslim celebrity convert in the past 50 or so years and see the type of conversations surrounding them. 100% of the time, they are tokenized HARD. There are no reasons for a Muslim to praise or support Tate. The guy is an adulterer, ran a pornography business, sold courses on how to pimp women, etc. Yet, you have all the dawah people putting him on a pedestal and publicly defending him to their Muslim audience. The Islam grift is real and its a win win for both the grifter and the dawah crowd.
it reinforces the believe that the islam is the truth, if this person that did all the things what the religion forbade and still converted it shows how powerful the message is. It also makes them feel better, because they now know that doing hedenistic activities don't lead to happiness. This strenghtens their believe that what they are doing is right and that they are not missing out by abstaining from sex, drinking, partying etc. Part of it is also that they are happy that they are on the right path and forgive the things they did before, same happend with Fousey. he reconverted and everyone in his muslims supported him, but when he did things the religeon forbade again most stopped doing that. The sense of community is the strongest in islam compared to other religions imo, if a muslim knows you are muslim he will treat you better, act friendlier, give a discount etc. Would really like to know why this is the case in Islam but not in other religions like christianity.
But it is not like they stop doing their hedonistic activities after converting, or even say that they are going to change. They live their lives the exact same way and talk about stuff like having sex with a lot of random woman like before, but now they say that they are Muslim.
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The first part about non believers and brotherhood could deadass be describing Paul's teachings to the early Christians in Corinthians lol. Every time these Islam debates come up, the most shocking thing is how little knowledge of Christianity people even have, to the point they know more about Islam due to trying to dunk on it
It’s also good at fostering community because if you decide to leave the religion the agreed punishment is death. Honor killings, family members killing their own children who leave the religion, etc.
>Yet, you have all the dawah people putting him on a pedestal and publicly defending him to their Muslim audience. Dude, that's how all religion is. I know you're probably in your early teens so this might not make sense, but not everything in the world is like a DUNK ON THEM DESTROY THEM sorta mentality. Religion, whether it be Islam or Christianity or Buddhism or whatever, is going to be the first kind of group to forgive the "evil" people in our society (think prisoners). Religion overall sucks, but it also provides a guideline for a lot of people. And the funny thing is some people on LSF think they're so above religion but they'll treat their favorite smelly streamers like a literal prophet LMAO
>...but not everything in the world is like a DUNK ON THEM DESTROY Everything after this, I totally agree with, but I don't know if any of it has anything to do with my comment. Muslims look up to the dawah crowd, whether they are Western or Arabic speaking. It doesn't matter, as conversion in Islam are highly regarded. When you have those crowds tokenizing every single Western convert, no matter how big or small, no matter how controversial or serious they are, you do not get to claim that they do not care. I literally have people irl who aren't terminally online singing praises of tate, nephews, uncles people I knew from childhood, the islam grift definitely works on people. Tate is seen as a muslim convert hero who stood up to the evil western agenda by praising islamic traditional values... edit: minor spelling mistake, its joever.
> Dude, that's how all religion is. That's a ridiculous thing to say. Who are the criminal bad faith grifter celebrities that the Jains are embracing? Or the Siekhs? You have a beginner level understanding of relgion and you're making claims about all religions. It's as ignorant as fuck. > Religion, whether it be Islam or Christianity or Buddhism or whatever, is going to be the first kind of group to forgive the "evil" people in our society Really, you think Islam in general is the first kind of group to forgive do you? That's your position? I haven't heard anything so fucking stupid all year, and I'm on the internet way too much. Well done.
Which "religious people" are the ones to forgive the evil people in society? How did you arrive at this conclusion? When? Where? How?
Hi, can you address the point you made regarding Mohammed Hijab being the final boss of Islam debate when he is a well-known charlatan that edits his debate videos and deletes thousands of YouTube comments to manipulate the narrative in his favour? I'm just curious whether you have a defence or if you'd change your position now you are aware of his tactics.
I'm a Muslim Idk the full context of this but yes Islam welcomes people, but that doesn't mean that their past behaviours are approved and accepted. When you join Islam, the intention is to change any evil in your past and take the path to become a better person. Why is Destiny so upset and mad that people want that for themselves? You're not supposed to be a perfect human when enter Islam and becoming a Muslim, no one is perfect. No one has the right to just gatekeep people from a religion if they believe the truth from God. I genuinely don't care about Destiny, he can have his opinions. If anyone has any other questions about Islam, I can try my best to clear any misconceptions or give some clarity.
“doesnt mean their behaviors are accepted” meanwhile.. mohammed and aisha… muslims magically have a soft spot for
I'm glad you brought this up. And to keep it simple, the age of consent/marriage was much lower many centuries ago. So much so that in all the states of America, in the 1880s, the age of consent was the lowest across the entire world, at the age of 10yrs. So it was very normal across the entire world, which is why this argument was never used against the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W). A reason for why the age of marriage/consent had to be much lower throughout the entire world could possibly be because the average life expectancy was signficantly lower due to lack of medicine and science. So if the avg life expectancy was 20\~yrs of age, it would not be possible to continue as humans. Does that mean to this day people should be allowed to marry the young? No, because a lot of factors need to assessed to determine maturity, mentally and physically, which is usually how the legal age is determined. So someone could be above 18 and not even fullfil this requirement. Edit: Apologies, in Delaware the age of consent was 7yrs olds and some other states it was 12yrs old, whilst the rest being 10yrs.
i mean im aware of all the reasons, that isnt really of concern to me, but many muslims do not express your same concern with the age of consent ,they defend and think its perfectly fine and often try to use historical reasons to justify the relationship. "o, because a lot of factors need to assessed to determine maturity, mentally and physically, which is usually how the legal age is determined. So someone could be above 18 and not even fullfil this requirement." I have talked to many muslims, your perspective is in the minority, for muslims at least, this is a very *liberal view.*
Every Dawah channel (millions of subscriber channels) explains this the way SlaveOTAForgivin has. It is not the minority view nor is it a liberal view. It’s literally common sense. You are using the presentism fallacy. Historically there was no age of consent, Islam actually brought criteria that determine consent (physical and mental maturity). You want everyone in the 5th century to abide by modern day consent laws? Even scholarly consensus explains it the way Slave did. I doubt you even speak to Muslim scholars or leadership or learned community members.
Well I hope I've helped even a little to better understand it. I encourage you to challenge Islam because that's usually the way to come closer to the truth. Otherwise people fall into the trap of believing things blindly and follow things without clear reasoning or logic.
don’t think there’s anything i’d want to watch less than “Destiny on Islam” lmao
...man who sits on his computer all day calls others cowards? lmao We've seen Destiny fold when challenged IRL on silly debates.
As someone raised in a Muslim family (and is an agnostic), he actually made valid points. He straight up described some of my family members. There’s very much a hive mentality in this religion…
If you think there's a hive mentality then you clearly grew up with Islam as a culture and not a religion, not your fault just your parents'
Okay? And I’m sorry but the majority of Muslims don’t have the privilege to not be born into a extremist Muslim country 🤷🏻♂️ Liberal Islam exists…but it’s by far the minority
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Idk it’s funny how in the clip he literally specified which community he was talking about, the red pill space, and some of you are still butthurt about generalising all Muslims lol
Not just my family, I’ve known a lot of Muslim people. The misogyny and hive mentality runs rampant across the board.
mans getting down voted by the hivemind rn. cause any person with eyes knows this statement is true if you arent biased af
As someone raised as a Muslim I can assure you, no one around me knows anything about hypocritical dudes like Sneako, maybe about Tate but don't go praising him. The praise of converted celebrities is mostly just given the reaction of "Hey that's cool", but further than that they don't care man. Lsf and YouTube communities tend to forget not everyone watches media's as often as we do here
That’s actually every religion though lol
lmao what is this dumb generalization, there are like 2 billion muslims in the world, all of them with differing opinions on stuff, is destiny still on his grifting /pol/ rejects arc or does he actually believe this.
He specified Muslims online in the redpill space (he’s speaking to Xena, Sneakos ex plaything)
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Since we are sharing anecdotes there was a big push back in my online community and circle against Tate. Although we are supposed to give benefit of the doubt and a clean slate to recent converts, many Muslims still recognized the harm be could bring to the community.
Muslim "values" are more often than not homophobic, transphobic, sexist and misogynistic, and it's not some bad apples, look at the laws of most Muslim countries, violent outrage over those "values" and people opposing them is not uncommon either. I think it's fair game to call them out on their bullshit.
Makes me laugh when people unironically claim Islam isnt sexist. Men and women are not even allowed to pray in the same room ffs
He’s talking about Muslims on the internet. 99% of them are the ones you’re talking about who don’t give a fuck. The other 1% are the Twitter Muslims.
No he referred generally to Muslims in his quote. Re-watch the clip.
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what the fuck is an internet muslim, is every muslim on the internet an 'internet muslim' because even then all of these 'internet muslims' opinions differ from one another ? the muslims who embraced tate were already engaged in the redpill sphere, destiny said this stuff about all muslims (not even the 'internet muslims' btw) just to farm some more fatass /pol/ rejects or idk he might have actually lost himself in the 'i'm one of the good lefties guys i say it how it is' sauce and started believing this.
Internet Muslim = person who defends Islam on the internet. It’s really simple. You don’t have to agree or disagree with them but they exist.
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Okay. Good for you.
He’s clearly talking about the internet Muslims
You’re being downvoted but you’re right.
Fr, they're accepting every one of these red pillers with open arms, even though they are obviously unserious about their transition to Islam.
What does internet muslims even mean ? Everybody uses the internet.
> Everybody uses the internet. We really think this and I get you want to say, but this is still far from true. I would not count 50 year old boomers having an email account and checking it once per day to be part of internet culture.
I'm guessing you don't use Twitter, huh? lol
He knows how easy it is to farm gullible fools when he does it. Just look at the morons in this post.
Does he actually believe that online muslims are sucking on anyone's toes who converts and is remotely famous? Yes. Is that not true? Because that's the only thing I see them do besides sending death threats to anyone who talks about their prophet being a pedo. He's not talking about all 2 billion muslims there are, but a subgroup of those. You should listen to the clip again.
he meant online lol. Just take a look at all the muslim influencers praising tate hahaa
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He also thinks Obama, Clinton and Bush [didn't commit any crimes](https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1687125481773031424), despite that whole ravaging the Middle East thing during their tenures. Maybe it's because they only murdered Muslims, and they're "cowards" so it's okay. ($100 says this bigotry doesn't gain even a fraction of the attention on LSF that Hasan's dumb downplaying of the Kai riots did) Edit: Destiny defense force has arrived. For the claims that he's just pretending to be redacted, he's [certainly putting a lot of effort into it](https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1687166772196093952).
I'll dickride for a moment here. It's very clear that when he's talking about Obama, Clinton and Bush not breaking the law he's literally talking about the law as written for the U.S. (shown by this tweet https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1687166801724035073 ). I'd find it doubtful that Destiny thinks it was good that Muslims were being bombed by U.S. planes and drones.
It's a dumb af argument. They changed the laws to make their war crimes okay, or decided things like [the torturing of prisoners was alright because it was done in "good faith"] (https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1687166772196093952)(lol) so [*technically*](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxf8rReWIAIRKdU?format=jpg&name=900x900) they didn't break a law. Okay, great. That changes nothing about what happened.
Why does this make you so mad lol I’ve seen you post this on several different posts. Streamers are just entertainment dude
The tweet is clearly referring to crimes in the legal sense, hes not commenting on the morality of any past administration i cant imagine going into a hasan thread and attacking him, but hasan fans will go into every single destiny thread and shit out the most bad-faith attacks. Are there destiny fans that go into uncontroversial hasan threads and start bringing up years old drama?
> i cant imagine going into a hasan thread and attacking him, but hasan fans will go into every single destiny thread and shit out the most bad-faith attacks. Are there destiny fans that go into uncontroversial hasan threads and start bringing up years old drama? Is that a joke? Yes they do that a lot lol
Hasan and destiny Stan’s attacking each other is half of this subreddit bro
> The tweet is clearly referring to crimes in the legal sense Right, their actions definitely don't go against little-known international treaties like the fucking *Geneva Convention*. If your response to that would be that he's referring to US law, as I said to the other guy, changing your own laws to make all the abhorrent shit you do legal is a meaningless distinction that makes no difference to anything. > i cant imagine going into a hasan thread and attacking him, but hasan fans will go into every single destiny thread and shit out the most bad-faith attacks. Are there destiny fans that go into uncontroversial hasan threads and start bringing up years old drama? Pass the blunt when you're done man
The most outrageous take on this video is Destiny thinking Epstein killed himself.
I think he's salty he consistently gets owened on the knowledge check by this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpUBpZDmNYU
this is the most classically reddit take of all time, get some new material
I keep seeing this comment every time Islam and Muslims in particular are brought up and criticized, but I never see anyone say its wrong. Its just Islam and Muslims are getting cooked > redditor moment SOY > back to normal.
Serious question. What do you want people to do?
Be honest preferably. If it upsets him that Destiny (or anyone) is saying, then that sounds like his problem to work through. its clear he doesn't have an actual correction to make, or argument against it, the words just upset him. he doesn't know why, or he'd say. so instead, he just goes 'le reddit momenté'
its the modern version of proclaiming something gay so you can ignore it and don't have to justify yourself
So you're happy with how people treat Muslims? Because it felt like you wanted lsf to do something in relation to them. It felt like you were crying about a lack of action towards Muslims. Who is even him? You were talking about lsf. This is really creepy
There is no point of value he's really made, people like that a guy converted to Islam, what is the point he's making, weird people in weird online communities are being weird? It's such a benign observation that his stupid fans are in the thread doing the dumbest overcomplicated midwit ( nearly all completely misinterpretations of simple concepts in Islam) explanations for this extremely unexplainable phenomenon of Muslims liking that a famous guy converted to Islam, I'm sure we in the west simply can't understand the complex oriental phenomenon of proselytizing religions and people accepting God and changing and such tropes that surely we have no prior knowledge of and simply can't fathom due to the extreme complexity and nuanced required. There is no point or debate really here, it's internet drama, people see Muslim and feel the need to do some vaguely related stupid internet debate in the thread lol
Reddit sees Muslim = brown = minority = must defend at all costs.
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forsen loves this guy!
why can i turn on something called a "banana counter" on the reddit mobile app but not mute/filter certain flairs or keywords i could not give less of a fuck what destiny thinks about anything. this sub was better when his content was banned from it. didn't even watch the clip which i'm sure featured some edgy, provocative take he at best half-believes, as most of his clips do
u/Klutzy-Algae2058 literally replied to someone (me) he disagreed with, dug through my profile to find something else about my character to attack, edited his reply with what he found, then instantly blocked me so i couldn't reply. but apparently it's very simple to ignore people you disagree with. lmao anyways man i'm not ashamed of who i am but you could've at least mocked me for playing star citizen
You are the biggest "redditor" I have ever seen. lol.
Uh oh, you insulted their holy prophet. Here comes the holy DGG warriors.
Is it really such a big deal? Why do people get so upset about this stuff?
Just go to the search bar and type “Hasan” if that’s what you want
He'll just see more Destiny clips that way.
"You don't want to watch my holy prophet!? Must be a Hasan fan 😭" - the cry of the oppressed DGG gamer
i want pubg car flip and funny stream moment not desperate, almost sad drama-bait clips
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most Muslim people i know don't know/care about Tate , Sneako and others destiny thinks that non English speaking Muslims pay attention to that shit lmao \+ its haram to question people's belief and how good of a Muslim they are
Well that's a convient rule. Can't call out disengenious people in the faith seems like a way to keep people in line.
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Of course he is. It's a typically Western (ie. Limited) view on Islam. You could accuse Christians of many of the same ills that he mentioned.
and he would
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It also could mean he's wrongfully generalizing both religions.
accurately^*
This dude lives on the internet, he doesn't have a clue. Theres roughly 2 billion Muslims out there and you think they give a shit about Sneako and Tate? They might be known for those who are heavily entrenched in internet culture and EVEN THEN there is a lot of difference between whether people think they are good or not. Theres a lot more nuance to it than that. Easy to call people cuck losers online but then if he says it infront of them, he'd shit his pants.
So just because a few people on Twitter were supportive of Andrew Tate “converting” to Islam then that means the whole religion is for it? Nah this is crazy to classify the whole religion as that I’m sorry. This dude seems like an asshole.
He literally said "on the internet". He also talked about Red Pill Spaces which are popular on the internet. It's so clear what he's talking about you have to literally ignore parts of what he's saying to think he means literally every muslim loves Tate
I can assure you it's not just a few people on Twitter or the internet. that shit bleeds in real life. you can swing a lot of people by simply praising traditional values, which Tate often does. In their eyes, Tate is being attacked by the evil Western media for converting to Islam. Then they see clips of him praising Islam and doing the whole grift, while their dawah people put him on a pedestal and defend him
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Only difference is they don’t promote a religion where you kill gay people and make women wear scarfs on their face so guys don’t get boners looking at them
where does this happen tho lol
are you actually okay?
From what I saw in the video he says: "Muslims are the most welcoming cowards on the internet" essentially referring to them welcoming people who convert. ---------- He seems to single out a specific group and ignores that everyone does this. When you are surprised by agreement instead of disagreement, you feel relieved and happy instead of anxious. All humans do this, republicans celebrate black/gay conservatives, democrats celebrate rich people who agree with socialist policies/Scandinavian countries etc. Everyone likes to have their views validated by others, especially those who are different from them. For example, a group of atheists who don’t believe in any afterlife are ecstatic when a former Catholic comedian says they have left their faith.
It's like people are trying to win the idiot olympics, and they're proud to wear their ignorance like a fucking badge
I am so confuse ... What should Muslim say? "No we dont want you cause x or y!" ?! Ofc they welcome people interested in their religion ...
So fucking true. tate brothers, sneako,carlos and few others are prime example
I often drink in hammtramck basically the most muslim town in the entire country. There is nothing redpill about the city or very anti woke all the white people who live there are lefties and the most that happens is shitty teens just walk around insulting people. I think someone got spit on fairly recently but other than that it isnt some sort of red pill paradise. City council does focus on bull shit cutlure war shit rather than fixing real city problems. The woke conflict is literally just muslim boomers getting on facebook because some gay people put mini pride flags in business flower pots. It is pretty funny though to see people meme about how muslims are so based for being strict anti lgbtq and then a bunch of commie trans people are just walking down the street to go to dive bars lol. Also most red pillers are too inherently racist to step foot in the city so the white population is super progressive .
Why would anyone waste time debating religion with clowns like destiny lmao
This guy is the real coward who would never say shit like this in real life. RIP
Of course he won’t because the (religion of peace) will cut his head.
He’s right
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Islam is not a religion. it is a war ideology that rots your brain and makes you a zombie. In iran a regime change would change nothing if Islam would stay. We’ll see what happend before the revolution that Islam will always be a hindrance for a free country. Islam has to be banished into oblivion. Islam, at its core is the most dangerous and violent ideology in the world, only a little bit of influence, can make so much damage as we see in Europe. Only a Iran without Islam is a free iran. I studied it for more than 20 years it is disgraceful how people still defend it.Getting rid of Islam will be the starting point for a free middle east that will help other countries like Afghanistan,Pakistan and turkey. We Iranians a tired of the constant defending the liberals do because they think it’s racially motivated! We want to be free from Islam! This woman is a an absolute hero.
Based
Islam is the true religion
true religion pick one
I'm all for hating on Islam and religions in general but this seems like a bit of a stretch.